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Mr. Nerfect
02-03-2008, 02:27 AM
If you had to give someone a "Nation of Domination"/"it's because I'm black" gimmick, who would you choose to give it to and why?
While I think MVP could play the angry black man, with the tattoo of Malcolm X on his chest, I think it would derail him too much at this point. I'd have to say Elijah Burke, because the man can talk up a storm.
El Fangel
02-03-2008, 02:56 AM
Inspired by racism, wow.
Mr. Nerfect
02-03-2008, 03:02 AM
Inspired by racism, wow.
Inspired by the racism in wrestling thread.
El Fangel
02-03-2008, 03:07 AM
I know I was busting your balls.
Honestly, Shelton Benjamin.
When he is ready for ME-Ing
He could go on to say everytime he gets up there, the man brings him down (instead of him blowing it.) And from this win and fight his way to the world title. I think he has it in him honestly.
Mr. Nerfect
02-03-2008, 03:15 AM
I know I was busting your balls.
Honestly, Shelton Benjamin.
When he is ready for ME-Ing
He could go on to say everytime he gets up there, the man brings him down (instead of him blowing it.) And from this win and fight his way to the world title. I think he has it in him honestly.
Fallen Angel, you should know by now that there are a million other things I'd prefer you to do to my balls. :naughty:
I agree with you that Shelton Benjamin should be a main eventer. He has the talent and the charism (yes, he really does). He did have a "angry black guy" thing going for a while, but personally I don't think Shelton is the guy to do this sort of angle with.
I love Shelton's clean, athletic character with a meanstreak. I also don't think he has the mic skills (yet) to really hammer the character in. He'd actually be better as a babyface who says that he's black and doing fine, to then feud with the angry black man.
Elijah Burke was my choice because he's definitely got the mic skills to pull off the character. He's also someone who the WWE has flirted with using properly, and has shown main event potential. With him dropping out of sight (for the most part) recently, it would be a way to bring him back into focus.
El Fangel
02-03-2008, 03:23 AM
You know, why not combine it?
Shelton has the skill, and Elijah the mic skills, both have it in them.
They could be like the Hardys of old, Matt on the mic, Jeff on the <s>mat</s> top of a ladder, they were entertaining as hell, and look where they are now.
Im not saying it should go a completely tag root, but it would add much to a rapidly declining tag team division, while making two mid-carders main event.
I think they should make a go like Austin and HHH did, go for all the gold (not have it all at once, but at different times)
I mean think, after enough build, and storyline.
Elijah vs Cena
- This would be great provided Cena doesn't do the normal.
Shelton vs Jeff
- Ladder match, 'nuff said.
Then it could be back and forth, titles changing hands, maybe a fatal 4 way, face turns, betrayals, redemption (Shelton saving Elijah from an ass-whupping), to a big showdown.
Bring Matt into the mix, and possibly a tweener-Heel Jericho to team with Cena
and You have the makings for a very fine Tag Team Elinination Chamber - Elimination Match.
Mr. Nerfect
02-03-2008, 03:27 AM
Nice ideas. :y:
Elijah Burke did bring Shelton Benjamin into ECW, so it makes sense from that standpoint, too. Burke & Benjamin as Tag Team Champions somewhere would be great for whatever division they can get them in.
If the WWE decide to do another Nation of Domination-like stable (and I'm not saying they should), Elijah Burke, Shelton Benjamin & Charlie Haas (as the Owen Hart of the group) should be in it. Bring in Charles Evans as the team's muscle.
El Fangel
02-03-2008, 03:43 AM
I could not imagine this, but think.
MVP - Leader
Shelton - (The Rock of the group)
Elijah - (The Other Rock of the group)
Viscera - Enforcer
Mark Henry - Enforcer
Teddy Long - Manager
I think this would be the makings of a great stable, and bring stable feuds back into wrestling.
Mr. Nerfect
02-03-2008, 06:16 AM
I could not imagine this, but think.
MVP - Leader
Shelton - (The Rock of the group)
Elijah - (The Other Rock of the group)
Viscera - Enforcer
Mark Henry - Enforcer
Teddy Long - Manager
I think this would be the makings of a great stable, and bring stable feuds back into wrestling.
I like elements of it, but I don't know. It just throws all the black guys on SmackDown! and ECW together, haha.
Here's what I'd do:
Elijah Burke is upset that he's getting treated badly, which he blames on being black. He cuts a few promos where he talks about how he's surprised he was not asked to play a starving runner, wrestling for food, or something. He approaches his good friend, Shelton Benjamin, about joining his cause. Shelton says that he is getting a good crack at success, and he didn't come to ECW to be a part of a cause, he came here for himself.
Shelton Benjamin continues his feud with Kane, and he loses a few times, and Elijah Burke puts some spin on him. "If you were with me, it'd be helping yourself," "if you were white you wouldn't have to face Kane every week." Eventually Shelton comes to, and Burke helps him defeat Kane. Benjamin and Burke beat-down Kane, with assist from Charles Evans, who is called up by Burke as his new enforcer.
Burke, Benjamin and Evans try to get Big Daddy V, Mark Henry and Matt Striker to join them. Burke likes Striker from their New Breed days, and he knows Striker understands history enough to know how unfairly black men have been treated. Striker says that he doesn't disagree with Burke, but he is his own man now. He tells Burke to master his own destiny and stop worrying about others. This leads to some tag team match variants. Elijah Burke & Shelton Benjamin vs. Big Daddy V & Mark Henry, Elijah Burke, Shelton Benjamin & Charles Evans vs. Matt Striker, Big Daddy V & Mark Henry, etc.
Burke also goes after another teacher...Michelle McCool on SmackDown!. Burke puts the moves on her like he did Striker (but with different intentions). Jamie Noble feels threatened by Burke, so he gets in his face, and this leads to Burke's group giving some beatings to the southerner they automatically label as racist.
Theodore Long actually supports the group, as does Jonathan Coachman, however, Vickie Guerrero bars Coach from commentary because he is meant to be impartial, and his support of Burke's group is getting too distracting. This is just a way to get Coach away from commentary.
Burke tries to get MVP to join, but MVP gives Burke a mouthful about how he used to be angry, but then he became a success on his own, and he realised that he was not a black man being victimised, but he was an amazing man victimising others. This leads to Burke trying (and successfully) wrestling the United States Championship away from MVP.
They jump over to RAW, where they bring in Victoria Crawford as a wrestler to go after the Women's Championship, and she is also passed off at Elijah Burke's thing on the side. Shelton Benjamin gets some assist in a match from Charlie Haas, who joins because he "understands what these men are going through" and that he is also discriminated against because of his race *puts on luchadore mask*.
Eventually Burke talks about a prophet coming to aid them in their quest. This prophet will apparently prove the truth. After a few weeks, that prophet reveals themselves to be Ron "The Truth" Killings. The former K-Kwik explains that The Truth is that he was forced to pretend he was hopeless the last time he was in the WWE. He talks about how he went elsewhere and became a two-time NWA Champion, but he's here to win the biggest prize in this industry...the WWE Championship. And prove that they are "The Truth."
So yeah, I'd go with that as the stable name, and its final members:
Ron Killings (Main Eventer)
Elijah Burke (Upper Mid-Carder)
Shelton Benjamin (Tag Team)
Charlie Haas (Tag Team)
Charles Evans (Enforcer)
Victoria Crawford (Woman)
Joanthan Coachman (Non-Wrestling)
The Optimist
02-03-2008, 06:39 AM
I just love that Shelton at least, would have an actual legitimate series of gripes about being held down. He has been held down, wether or not it's because he's black, the fact that it's a bit true makes it that much more viable and lulzy.
Burke has not been properly used by the wwecw. How many times has he jobbed to Punk? Benjamin was great on Raw. He out performed everyone in his two money in the bank ladder matches.
What Would Kevin Do?
02-04-2008, 03:09 AM
Kofi Kingston.
Seriously.
A Jamacian/black panther combo? Come on.
Or John Cena.
darkpower
02-04-2008, 05:47 AM
If only Bobby Lashley were still around...
.44 Magdalene
02-04-2008, 06:29 AM
John Cena.
Lord-Of-Darkness
02-04-2008, 07:11 PM
I was watching some footage of the old Nation the other day, they were great, and I'd love for WWE to do something like that again, but I just don't trust them to get it right.
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