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taker707
02-04-2008, 03:19 AM
If these Three men were the three nominees for the next president of the United States who would you chose

Hulk Hogan
John Mccain
Barrack Obama


I know this really has nothing to do with wrestling but i was watching an old nitro where " Hogan was running for Prez" and it got me thinking about how well he would actually do .

Destor
02-04-2008, 03:19 AM
McCain

Juan
02-04-2008, 03:27 AM
Are you kidding me...?

Destor
02-04-2008, 03:32 AM
No, I'm not kidding, I'd vote john McCain.

I don't see why this is such an outlandish statemant. I think he's a fine canidate. The truth is that John McCain could have been fairly called a conservative at one time, but that is no longer an accurate designation for him. McCain is not just a squish or a RINO, he is a man who seems to take pleasure in publicly fighting against conservatives on issues of great import. That's why John McCain may become the de facto leader of the Republican Party if he's the nominee and the leader of the country if he's the President, but no matter how many times he calls himself a "conservative leader," the Right will accept him as the leader of the conservative movement about 5 minutes after hell freezes over and reopens as a ski lodge.

That being said, there's another side to the story that has to be told. For all of his flaws, and there are many of them, John McCain is far to the right of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Those of us on the Right tend to downplay that, because a betrayal by someone on our own side stings much more sharply than one from a Democrat, but it is something conservatives should be willing to admit.

It's also worth noting that these claims that McCain will destroy the conservative movement are unlikely to be true or alternately, if they are, then the conservative movement is probably too fragile to last any way. After all, if the liberal movement could survive Bill Clinton, a lying adulterer whose three greatest "accomplishments," welfare reform, NAFTA, and balancing the budget, were all near and dear to the hearts of conservatives, then we should be able to withstand McCain.

More to the point, although we cannot know exactly how things will play out, it's very easy to imagine a scenario where a McCain presidency would be very good for the country and for conservatism.

Don't think it sounds possible? Well, imagine this: John McCain selects Fred Thompson as his Vice-President and defeats Hillary Clinton in November. Although he has many negatives, McCain is a fiscal conservative and it's easy to see him balancing the budget, which would burnish the fiscal credentials of the Republican Party.

McCain would also hang in there in Iraq and insure that country is stable before we leave, which would help the American public regain confidence in the GOP on foreign policy again.

Next up is judges. John Paul Stevens is 87 years old. Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 74 and has had cancer. Does either of those two liberals make it through the next four years without retiring? That's no small issue, because the court is currently split with 4 conservatives, 4 liberals and a moderate. That means a number of important cases, including Roe v. Wade, will probably be decided once and for all by the Supreme Court appointments of the next President of the United States. May God forgive us if we condemn a million plus children a year to death by abortion because we're angry at John McCain.


Don't think it sounds possible? Well, imagine this: John McCain selects Fred Thompson as his Vice-President and defeats Hillary Clinton in November. Although he has many negatives, McCain is a fiscal conservative and it's easy to see him balancing the budget, which would burnish the fiscal credentials of the Republican Party.

McCain would also hang in there in Iraq and insure that country is stable before we leave, which would help the American public regain confidence in the GOP on foreign policy again.

Next up is judges. John Paul Stevens is 87 years old. Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 74 and has had cancer. Does either of those two liberals make it through the next four years without retiring? That's no small issue, because the court is currently split with 4 conservatives, 4 liberals and a moderate. That means a number of important cases, including Roe v. Wade, will probably be decided once and for all by the Supreme Court appointments of the next President of the United States. May God forgive us if we condemn a million plus children a year to death by abortion because we're angry at John McCain.

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So, think about where we could be: a balanced budget, the war in Iraq won, a conservative Supreme Court, border security increased, the Republican Party's reputation much improved, and McCain leaving office in 2012. Can you really tell me that sounds so bad?
Granted, that is a very rosy scenario, but it's also relatively plausible -- and what's our alternative? President Hillary Rodham Clinton or President Barack Obama, socialized medicine, losing the war in Iraq, allowing Al-Qaeda to run wild for 4 years, exploding deficits, huge tax increases, and a liberal leaning Supreme Court for the next decade.

Of course, some people think there might be a conservative resurgence in opposition to a Democratic President, but don't kid yourself; it's just as likely that a GOP defeat could turn us into a squabbling minority party that is out of power for years while the Left remakes this country in the image of Belgium.

Does that mean you should, "vote for John McCain in November and like it?" No, but it does mean, that if John McCain is the nominee, you should think very hard about holding your nose and voting for the viable candidate who would do the most good for our country.

Destor
02-04-2008, 03:32 AM
:shifty:

taker707
02-04-2008, 03:40 AM
I simply went with the frontrunners for both national partys ok

Dave Youell
02-04-2008, 03:59 AM
Hogan all the way for me, he's a great role model

What Would Kevin Do?
02-04-2008, 04:13 AM
Fine, I'll just delete the last few posts, happy?

Destor
02-04-2008, 04:15 AM
nah, I dont care

Juan
02-04-2008, 05:02 AM
No, I'm not kidding, I'd vote john McCain.

I don't see why this is such an outlandish statemant. I think he's a fine canidate. The truth is that John McCain could have been fairly called a conservative at one time, but that is no longer an accurate designation for him. McCain is not just a squish or a RINO, he is a man who seems to take pleasure in publicly fighting against conservatives on issues of great import. That's why John McCain may become the de facto leader of the Republican Party if he's the nominee and the leader of the country if he's the President, but no matter how many times he calls himself a "conservative leader," the Right will accept him as the leader of the conservative movement about 5 minutes after hell freezes over and reopens as a ski lodge.

That being said, there's another side to the story that has to be told. For all of his flaws, and there are many of them, John McCain is far to the right of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Those of us on the Right tend to downplay that, because a betrayal by someone on our own side stings much more sharply than one from a Democrat, but it is something conservatives should be willing to admit.

It's also worth noting that these claims that McCain will destroy the conservative movement are unlikely to be true or alternately, if they are, then the conservative movement is probably too fragile to last any way. After all, if the liberal movement could survive Bill Clinton, a lying adulterer whose three greatest "accomplishments," welfare reform, NAFTA, and balancing the budget, were all near and dear to the hearts of conservatives, then we should be able to withstand McCain.

More to the point, although we cannot know exactly how things will play out, it's very easy to imagine a scenario where a McCain presidency would be very good for the country and for conservatism.

Don't think it sounds possible? Well, imagine this: John McCain selects Fred Thompson as his Vice-President and defeats Hillary Clinton in November. Although he has many negatives, McCain is a fiscal conservative and it's easy to see him balancing the budget, which would burnish the fiscal credentials of the Republican Party.

McCain would also hang in there in Iraq and insure that country is stable before we leave, which would help the American public regain confidence in the GOP on foreign policy again.

Next up is judges. John Paul Stevens is 87 years old. Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 74 and has had cancer. Does either of those two liberals make it through the next four years without retiring? That's no small issue, because the court is currently split with 4 conservatives, 4 liberals and a moderate. That means a number of important cases, including Roe v. Wade, will probably be decided once and for all by the Supreme Court appointments of the next President of the United States. May God forgive us if we condemn a million plus children a year to death by abortion because we're angry at John McCain.

Don't think it sounds possible? Well, imagine this: John McCain selects Fred Thompson as his Vice-President and defeats Hillary Clinton in November. Although he has many negatives, McCain is a fiscal conservative and it's easy to see him balancing the budget, which would burnish the fiscal credentials of the Republican Party.

McCain would also hang in there in Iraq and insure that country is stable before we leave, which would help the American public regain confidence in the GOP on foreign policy again.

Next up is judges. John Paul Stevens is 87 years old. Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 74 and has had cancer. Does either of those two liberals make it through the next four years without retiring? That's no small issue, because the court is currently split with 4 conservatives, 4 liberals and a moderate. That means a number of important cases, including Roe v. Wade, will probably be decided once and for all by the Supreme Court appointments of the next President of the United States. May God forgive us if we condemn a million plus children a year to death by abortion because we're angry at John McCain.

So, think about where we could be: a balanced budget, the war in Iraq won, a conservative Supreme Court, border security increased, the Republican Party's reputation much improved, and McCain leaving office in 2012. Can you really tell me that sounds so bad?
Granted, that is a very rosy scenario, but it's also relatively plausible -- and what's our alternative? President Hillary Rodham Clinton or President Barack Obama, socialized medicine, losing the war in Iraq, allowing Al-Qaeda to run wild for 4 years, exploding deficits, huge tax increases, and a liberal leaning Supreme Court for the next decade.

Of course, some people think there might be a conservative resurgence in opposition to a Democratic President, but don't kid yourself; it's just as likely that a GOP defeat could turn us into a squabbling minority party that is out of power for years while the Left remakes this country in the image of Belgium.

Does that mean you should, "vote for John McCain in November and like it?" No, but it does mean, that if John McCain is the nominee, you should think very hard about holding your nose and voting for the viable candidate who would do the most good for our country.

My post was directed towards taker707. Sorry.

Destor
02-04-2008, 05:13 AM
lol, I KNOW

What Would Kevin Do?
02-04-2008, 05:15 AM
oh wait...

I'm deleting that post too.

Destor
02-04-2008, 05:17 AM
YOU'VE GONE MAD WITH POWER

Destor
02-04-2008, 05:17 AM
KK is gonna spaz when he reads that btw

What Would Kevin Do?
02-04-2008, 05:22 AM
YOU'VE GONE MAD WITH POWER

Yes, yes I have. In fact, I'm going to add some nonsense to your tirade above.

Destor
02-04-2008, 05:29 AM
Now you've gone to far.

Destor
02-04-2008, 05:29 AM
You're crossing the line here.

Destor
02-04-2008, 05:30 AM
You're going to have to kick my ass, aren't you?

Juan
02-04-2008, 05:30 AM
:?:

El Fangel
02-04-2008, 05:35 AM
WWKD to Destor?

What Would Kevin Do?
02-04-2008, 05:45 AM
You're going to have to kick my ass, aren't you?

Yes, yes I am.

Destor
02-04-2008, 05:48 AM
lol

I hate you.

What Would Kevin Do?
02-04-2008, 05:48 AM
WWKD to Destor?

All I'm saying, is it involves a car battery, 3 pieces of splintered boselwood, Anne Nicole Smith's corpse, lube, an enema, habenero peppers, a lifesize cardboard cut out of splinter from TMNT, 18 needles, 5 tooth brushes, a pack of floss, a can of hairspray, 13 ounces of hair removal gel, a tire swing, and a type writer.

El Fangel
02-04-2008, 05:49 AM
:rofl: Jesus I find anything funny at 7am.

Destor
02-04-2008, 05:50 AM
All I'm saying, is it involves a car battery, 3 pieces of splintered boselwood, Anne Nicole Smith's corpse, lube, an enema, habenero peppers, a lifesize cardboard cut out of splinter from TMNT, 18 needles, 5 tooth brushes, a pack of floss, a can of hairspray, 13 ounces of hair removal gel, a tire swing, and a type writer.
I know where you're going with this. Good call. ;)

El Fangel
02-04-2008, 05:51 AM
All I'm saying, is it involves a car battery, 3 pieces of splintered boselwood, Anne Nicole Smith's corpse, lube, an enema, habenero peppers, a lifesize cardboard cut out of splinter from TMNT, 18 needles, 5 tooth brushes, a pack of floss, a can of hairspray, 13 ounces of hair removal gel, a tire swing, and a type writer.


:|:-\:eek::naughty::kiss::drool::D:(:roll::wtf::cool::nono:;):p

Thats in response to all you listed.

What Would Kevin Do?
02-04-2008, 05:51 AM
THank you. I try. I figured a special procedure for a special guy is the way to go.

What Would Kevin Do?
02-04-2008, 05:54 AM
:|:-\:eek::naughty::kiss::drool::D:(:roll::wtf::cool::nono:;):p

Thats in response to all you listed.

So why is your response to an enema :kiss:?

And if your answer is going to have anything to do with felching, I don't want to know.

El Fangel
02-04-2008, 05:56 AM
So why is your response to an enema :kiss:?

And if your answer is going to have anything to do with felching, I don't want to know.

:shifty:

Destor
02-04-2008, 05:56 AM
And what makes a can of hair spray more cool than Splinter from TMNT?

What Would Kevin Do?
02-04-2008, 06:02 AM
And how the hell can you be confused by the floss?

KYR
02-04-2008, 06:12 PM
All I'm saying, is it involves a car battery, 3 pieces of splintered boselwood, Anne Nicole Smith's corpse, lube, an enema, habenero peppers, a lifesize cardboard cut out of splinter from TMNT, 18 needles, 5 tooth brushes, a pack of floss, a can of hairspray, 13 ounces of hair removal gel, a tire swing, and a type writer.

Didn't read the rest. I'm assuming this is a TNA thread? :shifty:

Lord-Of-Darkness
02-04-2008, 06:25 PM
I voted John Mccain, but then was extremely disappointed when I re-read and realised it wasn't John McClane....

SammyG
02-04-2008, 08:40 PM
Who is the most real american out of them...

OverTaker
02-04-2008, 10:41 PM
IT GOTSTA BE HOGAN!! I MEEN HIS MUSIK SEZ IT ALLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sepholio
02-06-2008, 12:18 PM
Maybe I'll just do a write-in vote for Hogan this time.

BigDaddyCool
02-06-2008, 12:52 PM
I agree with Destor, plus McCain is an all around bad ass.

The Optimist
02-06-2008, 01:01 PM
All I'm saying, is it involves a car battery, 3 pieces of splintered boselwood, Anne Nicole Smith's corpse, lube, an enema, habenero peppers, a lifesize cardboard cut out of splinter from TMNT, 18 needles, 5 tooth brushes, a pack of floss, a can of hairspray, 13 ounces of hair removal gel, a tire swing, and a type writer.
Awwwwwwwwwww!

Here it goes!

Mercury Bullet
02-06-2008, 02:48 PM
Best thread ever.

Mercury Bullet
02-06-2008, 02:49 PM
...and K4L

FourFifty
02-06-2008, 07:58 PM
Loose Cannon