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Mr. JL
02-24-2008, 07:30 PM
Vince Russo is so totally fired and is blackballed from even watching Professional Wrestling in the privacy of his own house. :yes:

Get the professional wrestlers back into a four sided ring :foc:

Don West & Mike Tenay are fired and I never want to hear their voices again. :rant:

Wipe the slate clean with a fresh start. That means tournaments to decide new champions for the World title, X Title and Tag Titles. Also means CLEAN finishes and no clusterfucks.:yes:

Only run 8 PPV's a year and drop the purchase price down to $25.:y:

Keep the two hours of iMPACT! and do a live broadcast at least once a month.:p

Talent Pool should consist of these guys:

Abyss - AJ Styles - Alex Shelley - Awesome Kong - Black Machismo - Booker T - Chris Sabin - Christian Cage - Christopher Daniels - Gail Kim - Hernandez - Homicide - Jeff Jarrett - Johnny Devine - Kaz - Kevin Nash - Kurt Angle - Raven - Rhino - Robert Roode - Samoa Joe - Scott Steiner - Sting - Team 3D - Tomko - Traci Brooks

Also:
Throw lots of $$$$$$$$$$ at Rob Van Dam


These guys don't need to be on written contracts. Only book them for special appearences or when you need them as filler:
BG James - Black Reign - Christy Hemme - Elix Skipper - Eric Young - Jacqueline - James Mitchell - James Storm - Jim Cornette - Jimmy Rave - Judas Mesias - Karen Angle - Kip James - Lance Hoyt - Matt Morgan - Payton Banks - Petey Williams - Raisha Saeed - Rellik - Roxxi Laveaux - Shark Boy - Sharmell - Sonjay Dutt - SoCal Val
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The First iMPACT! show is your World title tournament and is LIVE!

The Second iMPACT! show is a Tag title tournamnet + setting up a feud for the new World Champion.

The Third iMPACT! show is an X Title tournament + proceed with World title feud & hype the Tag Champions.

El Fangel
02-24-2008, 08:01 PM
Two mistakes IMO, You put Jarrett in the wrong group, and you mixed the first and third Impact!

The Optimist
02-24-2008, 08:13 PM
Not a bad plan. I'd reduce the pay per view number to something smaller, like 5 or 6. I like Petey Williams enough to put him on the main talent group, but other than that I agree. And Fallen Angel is right about the Impact tournaments.

Hanso Amore
02-24-2008, 08:17 PM
Agreed, You have to work up the the World Title as it will keep people tuning in. X Division will hook new viewers.


Add:

Make X Division a Focal point

One Gimmick match per shows tops.

Only original characters, no rip offs or spoofs

Who has ever tuned in and thought, hey, that is kind of like the New Age Outlaws, I once liked them when they were young, I will watch this.

Mr. JL
02-24-2008, 08:32 PM
Yeah, that is a very good point about the X title tourny and the World title tourny.

El Fangel
02-24-2008, 08:57 PM
I think that TNA needs another title, much like the European/Hardcore worked to help bring up lower-midcarders.

JT
02-24-2008, 09:25 PM
Vince Russo is so totally fired and is blackballed from even watching Professional Wrestling in the privacy of his own house. :yes:

Get the professional wrestlers back into a four sided ring :foc:

Don West & Mike Tenay are fired and I never want to hear their voices again. :rant:

Wipe the slate clean with a fresh start. That means tournaments to decide new champions for the World title, X Title and Tag Titles. Also means CLEAN finishes and no clusterfucks.:yes:

Only run 8 PPV's a year and drop the purchase price down to $25.:y:

Keep the two hours of iMPACT! and do a live broadcast at least once a month.:p

Talent Pool should consist of these guys:

Abyss - AJ Styles - Alex Shelley - Awesome Kong - Black Machismo - Booker T - Chris Sabin - Christian Cage - Christopher Daniels - Gail Kim - Hernandez - Homicide - Jeff Jarrett - Johnny Devine - Kaz - Kevin Nash - Kurt Angle - Raven - Rhino - Robert Roode - Samoa Joe - Scott Steiner - Sting - Team 3D - Tomko - Traci Brooks

Also:
Throw lots of $$$$$$$$$$ at Rob Van Dam


These guys don't need to be on written contracts. Only book them for special appearences or when you need them as filler:
BG James - Black Reign - Christy Hemme - Elix Skipper - Eric Young - Jacqueline - James Mitchell - James Storm - Jim Cornette - Jimmy Rave - Judas Mesias - Karen Angle - Kip James - Lance Hoyt - Matt Morgan - Payton Banks - Petey Williams - Raisha Saeed - Rellik - Roxxi Laveaux - Shark Boy - Sharmell - Sonjay Dutt - SoCal Val
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The First iMPACT! show is your World title tournament and is LIVE!

The Second iMPACT! show is a Tag title tournamnet + setting up a feud for the new World Champion.

The Third iMPACT! show is an X Title tournament + proceed with World title feud & hype the Tag Champions.

!.) Vince Russo isn't that bad as friends have pointed out. He has decent ideas from time to time. So with that said, the booking team as a whole needs a revamp and creative control should be taken away from Kurt Angle.

2,) I don't think the ring matters TOO much (imo). It's really just something different. Honestly I couldn't care if they wrestled in the octigon as long if it's entertaining. However, if it's such a big problem to people, I would switch it back.

3.) Tenay and West SHOULD be fired...with actual fire involved.

4.) Wipe the slate clean? Why are we going to suggest ideas for change by mentioning passed mistakes. A sudden change like that does not help the titles or the company. I say you need to work with what you have and set the directions. Sudden changes are just the same crap WCW tried and failed with.

5.) Agree with PPVs. Maybe even go back to the ECW method of 1 PPV every 2 months (making it 6 a year). Though price might be a hard change depending on business conditions.

6.) Talent pools seems fine, but they don't fucking need RVD. I'm a big fan of RVD, and I don't think they need RVD. They also don't need to be throwing any more big cash offers to people. Sting and Angle's wrestling bills are enough.

JT
02-24-2008, 09:42 PM
Vince Russo is so totally fired and is blackballed from even watching Professional Wrestling in the privacy of his own house. :yes:

Get the professional wrestlers back into a four sided ring :foc:

Don West & Mike Tenay are fired and I never want to hear their voices again. :rant:

Wipe the slate clean with a fresh start. That means tournaments to decide new champions for the World title, X Title and Tag Titles. Also means CLEAN finishes and no clusterfucks.:yes:

Only run 8 PPV's a year and drop the purchase price down to $25.:y:

Keep the two hours of iMPACT! and do a live broadcast at least once a month.:p

Talent Pool should consist of these guys:

Abyss - AJ Styles - Alex Shelley - Awesome Kong - Black Machismo - Booker T - Chris Sabin - Christian Cage - Christopher Daniels - Gail Kim - Hernandez - Homicide - Jeff Jarrett - Johnny Devine - Kaz - Kevin Nash - Kurt Angle - Raven - Rhino - Robert Roode - Samoa Joe - Scott Steiner - Sting - Team 3D - Tomko - Traci Brooks

Also:
Throw lots of $$$$$$$$$$ at Rob Van Dam


These guys don't need to be on written contracts. Only book them for special appearences or when you need them as filler:
BG James - Black Reign - Christy Hemme - Elix Skipper - Eric Young - Jacqueline - James Mitchell - James Storm - Jim Cornette - Jimmy Rave - Judas Mesias - Karen Angle - Kip James - Lance Hoyt - Matt Morgan - Payton Banks - Petey Williams - Raisha Saeed - Rellik - Roxxi Laveaux - Shark Boy - Sharmell - Sonjay Dutt - SoCal Val
-----

The First iMPACT! show is your World title tournament and is LIVE!

The Second iMPACT! show is a Tag title tournamnet + setting up a feud for the new World Champion.

The Third iMPACT! show is an X Title tournament + proceed with World title feud & hype the Tag Champions.

!.) Vince Russo isn't that bad as friends have pointed out. He has decent ideas from time to time. So with that said, the booking team as a whole needs a revamp and creative control should be taken away from Kurt Angle.

2,) I don't think the ring matters TOO much (imo). It's really just something different. Honestly I couldn't care if they wrestled in the octigon as long if it's entertaining. However, if it's such a big problem to people, I would switch it back.

3.) Tenay and West SHOULD be fired...with actual fire involved.

4.) Wipe the slate clean? Why are we going to suggest ideas for change by mentioning passed mistakes. A sudden change like that does not help the titles or the company. I say you need to work with what you have and set the directions. Sudden changes are just the same crap WCW tried and failed with.

5.) Agree with PPVs. Maybe even go back to the ECW method of 1 PPV every 2 months (making it 6 a year). Though price might be a hard change depending on business conditions.

6.) Talent pools seems fine, but they don't fucking need RVD. I'm a big fan of RVD, and I don't think they need RVD. They also don't need to be throwing any more big cash offers to people. Sting and Angle's wrestling bills are enough.

JT
02-24-2008, 09:52 PM
Vince Russo is so totally fired and is blackballed from even watching Professional Wrestling in the privacy of his own house. :yes:

Get the professional wrestlers back into a four sided ring :foc:

Don West & Mike Tenay are fired and I never want to hear their voices again. :rant:

Wipe the slate clean with a fresh start. That means tournaments to decide new champions for the World title, X Title and Tag Titles. Also means CLEAN finishes and no clusterfucks.:yes:

Only run 8 PPV's a year and drop the purchase price down to $25.:y:

Keep the two hours of iMPACT! and do a live broadcast at least once a month.:p

Talent Pool should consist of these guys:

Abyss - AJ Styles - Alex Shelley - Awesome Kong - Black Machismo - Booker T - Chris Sabin - Christian Cage - Christopher Daniels - Gail Kim - Hernandez - Homicide - Jeff Jarrett - Johnny Devine - Kaz - Kevin Nash - Kurt Angle - Raven - Rhino - Robert Roode - Samoa Joe - Scott Steiner - Sting - Team 3D - Tomko - Traci Brooks

Also:
Throw lots of $$$$$$$$$$ at Rob Van Dam


These guys don't need to be on written contracts. Only book them for special appearences or when you need them as filler:
BG James - Black Reign - Christy Hemme - Elix Skipper - Eric Young - Jacqueline - James Mitchell - James Storm - Jim Cornette - Jimmy Rave - Judas Mesias - Karen Angle - Kip James - Lance Hoyt - Matt Morgan - Payton Banks - Petey Williams - Raisha Saeed - Rellik - Roxxi Laveaux - Shark Boy - Sharmell - Sonjay Dutt - SoCal Val
-----

The First iMPACT! show is your World title tournament and is LIVE!

The Second iMPACT! show is a Tag title tournamnet + setting up a feud for the new World Champion.

The Third iMPACT! show is an X Title tournament + proceed with World title feud & hype the Tag Champions.

!.) Vince Russo isn't that bad as friends have pointed out. He has decent ideas from time to time. So with that said, the booking team as a whole needs a revamp and creative control should be taken away from Kurt Angle.

2,) I don't think the ring matters TOO much (imo). It's really just something different. Honestly I couldn't care if they wrestled in the octigon as long if it's entertaining. However, if it's such a big problem to people, I would switch it back.

3.) Tenay and West SHOULD be fired...with actual fire involved.

4.) Wipe the slate clean? Why are we going to suggest ideas for change by mentioning passed mistakes. A sudden change like that does not help the titles or the company. I say you need to work with what you have and set the directions. Sudden changes are just the same crap WCW tried and failed with.

5.) Agree with PPVs. Maybe even go back to the ECW method of 1 PPV every 2 months (making it 6 a year). Though price might be a hard change depending on business conditions.

6.) Talent pools seems fine, but they don't fucking need RVD. I'm a big fan of RVD, and I don't think they need RVD. They also don't need to be throwing any more big cash offers to people. Sting and Angle's wrestling bills are enough.

The Optimist
02-24-2008, 09:53 PM
If you've added too many bad ingredients you might have to throw out the whole pot and start again. For me, Styles getting married to Angle's wife was the point the gumbo went irreversably wrong.

And I agree on the Russo spot, he needs to be controlled.

Fox
02-24-2008, 10:01 PM
-Integrate the upper mid-carders with the main eventers, and put them over as equals. Guys like Christopher Daniels, AJ Styles, Alex Shelley, and Bobby Roode should be on the same level as guys like Christian Cage, Booker T and Kurt Angle. Fans don't wan to see them fight each other; we saw it in WWE. We want something different. Angle vs. Shelley, just as an example, would be an awesome TNA PPV main event or upper-card match.

-Relegate Don West to the backstage area for interviews and such, i.e. Mean Gene. Bring in someone new and fresh to commentate with Tenay; who is an awesome straight man and knows wrestling inside and out.

-Concentrate on moving out of Orlando and shooting Impact at different arenas. Surely they can tape two times a week in different parts of the Eastern U.S., doing two Impacts per taping. Then have the other two tapings inside the Impact Zone.

-TNA PPVs should never be held inside the Impact Zone.

I could think of tons more, but those are four big ones.

BigDaddyCool
02-24-2008, 10:09 PM
Don't throw a lot of money at RVD. Just offer him a reasonable contract. But seriously he isn't needed. It would be nice seeing him against AJ or Kaz, but he is just going to wrestle Christian, Angle and Booker.

The Optimist
02-24-2008, 10:14 PM
In response to Fox's first point, they sort of move to this every few months. Jay Lethal did beat Angle a while ago.

BigDaddyCool
02-24-2008, 10:15 PM
Jay Lethal beat Angle only to lose the belt but keep the title and then risked the existance of the entire division. Yeah, that is really pushing Jay.

The Optimist
02-24-2008, 10:46 PM
Hm. Good point. They only ever talk about Jay beating him. It's become sort of like Shelton beating Triple H, that one big win that meant nothing.

Mr. Nerfect
02-25-2008, 12:02 AM
Fox pretty much hit the nail on the head. The reason TNA should want main event talent like Kurt Angle, Sting and Booker T, is to make guys like AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels and Samoa Joe look credible. They seem to be taking steps with Robert Roode, and deep down, I have a feeling that Samoa Joe is going to be TNA World Heavyweight Champion soon, and that Kurt Angle will then have some classics with AJ Styles.

Jay Lethal should be given a shot at the TNA World Heavyweight Championship, because he does hold an outstanding fall over the Champion. Whether it is Samoa Joe or Kurt Angle he challenges, it doesn't matter, put the Champion over in a good showing for Lethal. Seeing as they now hold the last fall over the TNA X-Division Champion, Kurt Angle/Samoa Joe then gets a title shot against Lethal. This match goes to Lethal, and TNA establishes that the TNA World Heavyweight Title and TNA X-Division Title are both prestigious Championships.

Scott Steiner should lose to Jay Lethal cleanly, and put him over as a credible X-Division Champion.

Get rid of Vince Russo, and have Don West replaced as colour commentator. West can do TNA Today with someone, or something.

AJ Styles & Tomko should get a fairly long run with the TNA World Tag Team Championship, but the belts should end up on The Motor City Machine Guns soon enough, while AJ and Tomko move into singles competition.

Rob Van Dam would not be a bad signing, at all. He can fit into any division. That's if he is willing to work without millions of dollars being thrown at him. A feud with Jay Lethal over the X-Division Championship would be pretty fucking cool.

Make your shows mainly about the Championships. That's how TNA used to handle most of their stuff, and it really worked. It did make them appear to the alternative. It doesn't matter what gold you hold, in TNA it should mean something, because in the WWE it doesn't. TNA has four championships, so if you have each title defended, and a match then relating to a story surrounding each division, that's an entire PPV written out for you right there.

Testicle
02-25-2008, 12:09 AM
Vince Russo isn't that bad as friends have pointed out. He has decent ideas from time to time.

Uhhh...since when?

His gimmick matches are rediculous (the abyss/sting fued with the casket 'rising to heaven') plus the guy puts non-wrestlers in the spotlight (karren angle), instead of using the talent.

El Fangel
02-25-2008, 12:32 AM
My Take on this

Fire Russo. Hire Heyman

Get Rid of West and Tenay, Hire some Indy, or Dependants, and bring them in, most people will not know them, and therefore not have much of a view towards them (Mark-wise), also possibly Heyman, and someone.

Currently there are four titles/ five belts

TNA
X-Division
Tag
Womans

In my opinion, as stated before, I think TNA needs a lower grade title for the jobbers/ lower carders to vie for, much like the European Title of old. This would help establish people on their way up, and to help jump into mid-carder status.

Here is the breakdown of the main contenders for each title in my opinion (People from a higher rung can contend for lower, but lower should not contend for higher often)

TNA Heavyweight

Abyss - AJ Styles - Alex Shelley - Booker T - Chris Sabin - Christian Cage - Christopher Daniels - Jeff Jarrett(Ugh) - Kaz - Kevin Nash - Kurt Angle - Petey Williams - Raven - Rhino - Robert Roode - Samoa Joe - Scott Steiner(/puke) - Sting - Tomko

X-Division

BG James - Elix Skipper - Eric Young - James Storm - Jimmy Rave - Kip James - Lance Hoyt - Matt Morgan - Petey Williams - Sonjay Dutt.

Lower Card Title

- Black Reign - Judas Mesias - Rellik - Shark Boy

Tag Team

Obviously any team, as long as it makes sense and has a reason why they are teaming.

Womans

Any decently talented diva, who can put on an entertaining match (I would not say no to many as TNA has a low stock of divas)

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I would build the X-Division with alot of high class feuds, and the Lower Card Title with mini-feuds and storylines, More or less pay heavy attention to the X-Div, of course save the best storys for the Heavyweight, but make sure that the X-Div is along the same lines as the Heavyweight, only the title is of less prestige, have the lower card title built up to be a bit under the X-Div, and the Tag Team built up by having 3 or 4 way stable/team feuds. Womans title can be fought over best if its main players are in stables with a guy who has a title or tag titles.

The Optimist
02-25-2008, 12:36 AM
Fire Russo, Hire Heyman

FourFifty
02-25-2008, 02:06 AM
Somehow I still don't care about TNA.
They need to stop throwing money at non-wrestlers and put it into production value.
No one mentions this, and it's what made Vince's empire what it is today. Production value. It's what made Hulkamania a nation wide trend and why Ric Flair was only known by wrestling fans. It's why Austin 3:16 shirts outsold every other major tee shirt when it was big. So the WWE has piece of shit hollywood writers and washed up wrestlers making the storylines. I can live with that, but I'll be damned if WWE doesn't have the best montages to hype up a match or PPV. WCW never came close. If you want to promote a wrestling show nation wide and hook the ratings make it look professional. You can book I.C. Weiner vs Haywood Jablowme in the main event. As long as you make it look like money, it's money. People, for the most part, are sheep, and should be treated as such, Throw some flashy graphics in there, lease a few themes from extrememusic.com, get a college student to make a montage for AJ Styles, just put more money is making it LOOK better.

AND GET RID OF THAT FUCKING RING AND DON WEST!!!!! (and vince russo)

Inadequacy
02-25-2008, 06:57 AM
I think that TNA needs another title, much like the European/Hardcore worked to help bring up lower-midcarders.

Do you mean the beer drinking championship? Cause they totally already have the beer drinking championship.

Mr. Nerfect
02-25-2008, 08:24 AM
Somehow I still don't care about TNA.
They need to stop throwing money at non-wrestlers and put it into production value.
No one mentions this, and it's what made Vince's empire what it is today. Production value. It's what made Hulkamania a nation wide trend and why Ric Flair was only known by wrestling fans. It's why Austin 3:16 shirts outsold every other major tee shirt when it was big. So the WWE has piece of shit hollywood writers and washed up wrestlers making the storylines. I can live with that, but I'll be damned if WWE doesn't have the best montages to hype up a match or PPV. WCW never came close. If you want to promote a wrestling show nation wide and hook the ratings make it look professional. You can book I.C. Weiner vs Haywood Jablowme in the main event. As long as you make it look like money, it's money. People, for the most part, are sheep, and should be treated as such, Throw some flashy graphics in there, lease a few themes from extrememusic.com, get a college student to make a montage for AJ Styles, just put more money is making it LOOK better.

AND GET RID OF THAT FUCKING RING AND DON WEST!!!!! (and vince russo)

This is very true. Production values won't instantly fix TNA's many, many problems, but it will make them look more equal with the WWE.

Panda Energy has been really patient with TNA, but I think they need more income from somewhere. I'm not sure how this stuff usually works, but maybe Jeff Jarrett and Dixie Carter can go to Spike TV, and see just how devoted they are to them?

TNA needs to start charging admission for its show. Even if it's just what OVW is doing, and charging $5. Make it $10 for PPVs, and the TNA fans will still come in. The Impact! Zone apparently holds 900 people. That's $4,500 extra you are making each set of tapings. I believe they do two a month. Add that to the $9,000 you make off PPV monthly, and that's $13,500 a month. This means that each year, TNA would be making an extra $162,000. That could go straight to boosting production, renovating the set, etc.

The TNA video game is going to hopefully sell a lot of copies. Especially if it is actually a good game. If it works out this way, then TNA will make a lot of money off that. Send that straight to production. Build up the Impact! zone with Universal Studios' permission. This means that you can get more people in, and increase the money you can put towards production this year. This is called growth, and it's something TNA needs to learn.

The pacing and timing of shows is fairly crap, and if they ran commercial breaks outside matches, things would run a lot smoother. Good commentary is a part of production, so Don West, that means you're gone, buddy.

A lot of people think that TNA should travel, and while I think it is a good idea in theory, you have the expenses that come with traveling. This is where your top name Superstars come in, though. Kurt Angle, Christian Cage, Booker T, Sting, Kevin Nash...when people see those names, they think legitimate.

TNA should maybe be thinking international. They don't have a TV deal in Australia, I believe. Why the fuck not? Australian fans are idiots, the WWE actually seems to be becoming more and more popular over here. They could easily try and talk FOX8 into showing TNA iMpact!, and advertising guys like Kurt Angle, Sting and Booker T, who would sell as effectively as any of the WWE's guys. I'd argue more. This would also increase the number of Australian fans who buy TNA PPVs.

TNA have a deal with Japan going on. I'm just going to use Budokan Hall as an example. TNA could do a PPV or something over there, using TNA talent and New Japan talent. A building like Budokan Hall holds about 14,201 people. Using some New Japan talent, and having a big Kurt Angle vs. whoever match, TNA could very easily make a profit off these kind of shows.

Japan is a market I can see TNA doing very well in, mainly because they have large American stars. If Japanese people are willing to pay tickets to see Albert, they will pay to see Kurt Angle.

TNA has David Sahidi, but if they got commentators that knew how to do their jobs, video packages wouldn't even be needed as much. The optimisation of talent is something TNA has great difficulty with, and is something that TNA will need to compete with the WWE.

Dixie Carter needs to go fishing around for investors, as well, even if she has to get on her knees and...beg. You need to spend money to make money, and I'm not sure TNA has the money to spend.