Money in the Bank Discussion *Seventh Entrant Added* [Archive]

Mr. Nerfect

02-27-2008, 04:28 PM

Wow, I'm actually really looking forward to it this year. I mean, don't get me wrong, the match is always some good fun, but this year it seems like everyone is a potential highlight of the match. No "filler" entries yet.

I'm quite curious as to who the WWE will put over. Mr. Kennedy laying out John Cena after the main event actually surprised the hell out of me. It's not something the WWE usually lets happen to their golden child.

We still only have half the match confirmed (I believe it is going to be eight again this year). JR did rattle off the traditional number of six participants, but since when has he known what he is talking about? Not for a few years. Assuming we get eight, I think we'll see CM Punk, Chavo Guerrero and Kane added to the match, which leaves one spot left over.

I'd love for Jamie Noble or Paul Burchill to get into the match, but the biggest name to insert would probably be Elijah Burke, as he has sort of main evented (to some degree) before, and fits in with Shelton Benjamin and CM Punk these days. This would mean three guys from the ECW brand, though. Chavo Guerrero is technically with SmackDown!, but he is the ECW Champion, so kind of make it four.

Another option is that we get a shitty Santino Marella vs. Jerry Lawler match at WrestleMania, and Carlito will be free to compete in Money in the Bank. He was the guy who suggested the return of the match for WrestleMania 22 in storylines, I believe, so he would sort of fit. It also adds a fourth RAW guy to the match, which is much more likely than four ECW guys. Like Elijah Burke, Carlito has also main evented to some degree before.

So yeah, how is everyone feeling about how the match is shaping up? Who does everyone think will win? Who should win? Who else should fill the match?

Jordan

02-27-2008, 05:22 PM

I think it would be great to see... Jeff Hardy vs Kennedy vs Shelton Benjamin vs Chris Jericho vs MVP vs Matt Hardy vs Kane vs The Great Khali

I know Khali isn't an ideal choice for a ladder match but he could be responsible for some cool spots and then get injured early like Edge last year.

Johnny Vegas

02-27-2008, 05:22 PM

Jeff Hardy needs to win this match so that he can win the title later. The guy is one of the, if not, THE most over guy in the company and the WWE doesn't need to let this pass like they did RVD. Even if it isn't a long reign, i'm sure that people will appreciate it, kind of like Benoit's title win. It will be one of those 'moments'. If anybody other than Hardy is going to win it then it should be CM Punk. Get SOMEBODY over that hump and Kennedy doesn't really need the win. He won it last year, and with the right push, he can be in the main event. Idk what the WWE is waiting for with him. Put him in a 3-month or so fued with Y2J or face turn with JBL. JBL can make anyone look like they need to whoop his (JBL) ass.

St. Jimmy

02-27-2008, 07:30 PM

Testicle

02-27-2008, 08:00 PM

Jeff Hardy will win it, he'll cash his shot against Cena and win. He'll be a transitional champion at best before losing it back to Cena so the Cena/HHH Fued can happen and Trips can go over clean at SummerSlam.

You gotta love how the most over guy in the company would simply be a 'transitional champion.'

St. Jimmy

02-27-2008, 08:02 PM

You gotta love how the most over guy in the company would simply be a 'transitional champion.'

http://z.about.com/d/prowrestling/1/0/0/5/-/-/rvd.jpg

Kane Knight

02-27-2008, 08:23 PM

You gotta love how the most over guy in the company would simply be a 'transitional champion.'

Half the time, the most over guys in the company aren't even in queue for contendership. I'm not sure why this would be any different. :D

Mr. JL

02-27-2008, 08:24 PM

RVD forced himself into transitional champ material when he got busted with marijuna.

Mr. Pierre

02-27-2008, 09:09 PM

I wouldn't have guaranteed it, but I was almost positive he was going to lose the WWE title to Edge at SNME two weeks after the drug bust anyway.

Not sure how long he would have held the ECW title though.

Jeritron

02-27-2008, 09:25 PM

Jeff should win and cash it in for Summerslam. A Cena/Hardy main event was a missed oppurtunity for mania, but using it for Summerslam is the next best thing

Testicle

02-27-2008, 10:22 PM

Jeff should win and cash it in for Summerslam. A Cena/Hardy main event was a missed oppurtunity for mania, but using it for Summerslam is the next best thing

Agreed. But, unfortunatly it will never happen as Trips would have to be on the undercard and that is simply unacceptable.

El Fangel

02-27-2008, 11:34 PM

[color="silver"] Is the Matt Hardy/MVP match confirmed for Wrestlemania? [/colro]

El Fangel

02-27-2008, 11:34 PM

Is the Matt Hardy/MVP match confirmed for Wrestlemania?

Londoner

02-28-2008, 08:51 AM

Not yet i don't think.

Tommy Gunn

02-29-2008, 10:01 AM

Matt Hardy needs to stop sandbaggin it and come back from his... Uh... near death.

Johnny Vegas

02-29-2008, 02:59 PM

Jeff should win and cash it in for Summerslam. A Cena/Hardy main event was a missed oppurtunity for mania, but using it for Summerslam is the next best thing

:y:

But like someone said before, if HHH is not in the ME then its not going to "go over". Man, if anything HHH should be in like a #1 Contenders match with someone and let Cena/Hardy happen. That shit should be built up like they did Orton/Hardy. The whole "3rd time's a charm" thing with Hardy. HHH should be at the point now where he should be helping elevate guys while being a heel.

I think that there should be maybe two people switched from RAW to SD! and vice versa. Just to freshen things up with HHH b/c he's faced just about everybody on there already.

NeanderCarl

02-29-2008, 03:16 PM

I don't want to see Kane in the MITB. It seems the IWC has a hard on for Kane, and I don't dislike him, but he won't add anything to the match.

Aditionally, I'm expecting Chavo vs CM Punk at Mania, so I doubt they will be in the ladder match.

I wouldn't mind seeing Tommy Dreamer in there, though, even if he has no chance of winning whatsoever.

02-29-2008, 03:16 PM

Kennedy is gonna superman that briefcase.

Heyman

02-29-2008, 03:53 PM

Mr. Nerfect

03-01-2008, 12:57 AM

Jeff Hardy is my pick to win it, from a "what I think will happen" standpoint, but I'm not sure if he needs to. The guy is still perpetually over. I think Jeff would get just as over killing Mr. Kennedy with an insane Swanton Bomb, or something of the like. Jeff can then feud with whoever he kills, and go over them at Backlash. Hell, a change of brands would do the guy wonders. There's no reason why Jeff can't take the ECW Title off Chavo Guerrero. Some might see it as a step down, but I'd love to see it.

Personally, I think Chris Jericho winning would be the best route to go. Many might not think that he needs it, but the guy's returned was botched pretty badly. They brought him back right before the Road to WrestleMania started, and yeah. It just hasn't seemed as epic as it should have. A Jericho MITB win would hopefully remind everyone of just who he is.

If Hardy does win the MITB, which would be a good bet, I'm actually hoping he goes over to SmackDown!, and challenges The Undertaker for the World Heavyweight Championship. Jeff is at the stage where he could be the top face for the brand, and Taker might actually consider losing to Jeff this time. Another Ladder Match between the two where Jeff wins the World Heavyweight Title would be a nice moment.

NeanderCarl

03-01-2008, 01:09 AM

I call a draw, for the first time ever in a Ladder match. Both Hardy and Jericho grab the case at the same time, both fall still holding onto it, match ends in a tie, Jericho-Jeff feud for a couple of months to determine who has the MITB rights.

NeanderCarl

03-01-2008, 01:11 AM

Actually I HATE that idea, wish it had never occurred to me, and certainly don't want to see it come to fruition.

Mr. Nerfect

03-01-2008, 02:07 AM

Actually I HATE that idea, wish it had never occurred to me, and certainly don't want to see it come to fruition.

I've always wanted to see someone run down (Jamie Noble or a retired Ric Flair would be perfect for this), and steal the briefcase mid-match. The commentators don't have a clue what is going on, but there is a contract in there, and it turns out not to be worded as "the Money in the Bank winner gets to use this contract," but rather "the possessor of this contract." The wrestler who stole the title shot can now use it whenever they want.

The WWE can then hold another Money in the Bank Ladder Match at Backlash, this time worded correctly, so that there must be a winner who uses the title shot. The shot will last until WrestleMania XXIV, with two floating around, and you can decide whether or not you make MITB a WrestleMania concept, or a Backlash concept from now on.

NeanderCarl

03-01-2008, 02:12 AM

Yeah... so back to that draw idea...

NeanderCarl

03-01-2008, 02:12 AM

:lol: Just yankin yer chain, Noidy

Jeritron

03-01-2008, 02:15 AM

Next year they should up the anti and make it an 8 man MITB TLC match

Mr. Nerfect

03-01-2008, 02:38 AM

Next year they should up the anti and make it an 8 man MITB TLC match

I miss TLC Matches at WrestleMania. It was a great way for the undercard to shine, and to get the Tag Titles on the show. John Morrison & The Miz (ECW) vs. Paul London & Brian Kendrick (RAW) vs. Jimmy Wang Yang & Shannon Moore (SmackDown!). Fuck, that would be a slick match.

Shadow

03-01-2008, 02:59 AM

Jeff Hardy is gonna win the MITB contract and then go on to cash it in....a year later.

FourFifty

03-01-2008, 03:01 AM

I'd like to see a heel with the MITB earn another title shot. Dude gets himself DQ'ed with a low blow or a chair shot, then cashes it in to win the title.

Lux

03-01-2008, 07:33 AM

I too miss TLC matchs, been watching them on youtube this morning, just not the same without the guys who made the match awesome, christ we need to get the Dudleyz and Christian so he can reunite with Edge, already have the Hardyz, god damn i miss the old days.

"I think Dudleyville is right outside Parts Unknown but it hasn't been varifed"
-JR at Wrestlemania 17 during the TLC 2 match

Lux

03-01-2008, 07:35 AM

However i do not want CM Punk anywhere near the MITB match or the ECW title for that matter, damit Elijah needs a push, not CM Punk, he's turning into the next Bats, always number one contender, grr, it gets annoying and i mean VERY annoying

Mr. Nerfect

03-02-2008, 06:47 PM

Chavo Guerrero vs. CM Punk at WrestleMania is looking better to me, actually. Just have Chavo get himself disqualified against Punk this week on ECW, and have the Punk then get a rematch at WrestleMania under Extreme Rules.

Elijah Burke should be in the Money in the Bank Ladder Match. It was my belief last year, but then Burke kind of disappeared. Now he is back again. Burke and Benjamin kind of have their friendship/rivalry going on, so it would fit the context of the match.

Kane also seems like he might be getting tied up with The Great Khali. Joy of joys. That might eliminate Kane from entering the match, but let's hope he actually gets to win against Khali.

Mr. JL

03-02-2008, 06:56 PM

I didn't think Punk versus Guerrero from No Way Out was even second tier PPV material worthy... let alone Wrestle freakin Mania material.

Mr. Nerfect

03-02-2008, 07:10 PM

I didn't think Punk versus Guerrero from No Way Out was even second tier PPV material worthy... let alone Wrestle freakin Mania material.

I actually agree. I like both guys, but it's more so the match being done to death since the beginning of 2008 than anything else. I'd rather have seen Chavo defend versus Rey Mysterio, Batista or even Kane. Fuck, bring in Mick Foley to job to Chavs.

CM Punk seems a great fit for Money in the Bank right now, but his stuff with Chavo keeps going and going. I guess if he loses to Chavo on Sci-Fi, he can move into the match, and Chavo can do...whatever it is they've got lined up for him. Fuck, I'd mark out for Chavo vs. Stevie right now. Former jobbers in a World Title match at WrestleMania! Wooo!

However, as WrestleMania gets closer, it's a match I am just accepting. It doesn't bother me as much as the WWE Title match, that's for sure.

Mr. Nerfect

03-02-2008, 07:12 PM

Rob Van Dam has already worked for the WWE once since he left, maybe they could convince him to work WrestleMania? Chavo vs. RVD would be a pretty fun match, and it'd actually seem WrestleMania quality, in my opinion. RVD would add some class to the proceedings.

Not going to happen, but it'd allow ECW to have a title match, and allow CM Punk into Money in the Bank.

James Steele

03-02-2008, 10:24 PM

Why are all of you bitching about Triple H? He headlined No Way Out and all of the sudden he is Mr. Politics again.

Mr. Nerfect

03-02-2008, 11:43 PM

Why are all of you bitching about Triple H? He headlined No Way Out and all of the sudden he is Mr. Politics again.

What? The man is a cancer on the business, if that's what you're referring to.

Innovator

03-02-2008, 11:46 PM

What? The man is a cancer on the business, if that's what you're referring to.
HHH will help in the future, he'll keep the product somewhat wrestling oriented

this is after he retires with 30 title runs of course

Mr. Nerfect

03-02-2008, 11:51 PM

HHH will help in the future, he'll keep the product somewhat wrestling oriented

this is after he retires with 30 title runs of course

I actually agree. Well, sort of. It depends how bias he is in pushing guys. What will count as talent to Triple H? Actual talent, or guys who will carry his bags and wash his car on weekends?

When the man retires, he could, theoretically, be a massively positive influence on the direction of the WWE. He could also cause a lot of damage, too.

Innovator

03-02-2008, 11:52 PM

Better than Brian Gerwitz head booking, guys hates wrestling...yet books a wrestling show

Mr. Nerfect

03-03-2008, 12:00 AM

Better than Brian Gerwitz head booking, guys hates wrestling...yet books a wrestling show

I think the man has had like one good idea. I think he might have just been agreeing with it because he was sucking Stephanie's cock, though.

Jeritron

03-03-2008, 03:17 AM

I didn't think Punk versus Guerrero from No Way Out was even second tier PPV material worthy... let alone Wrestle freakin Mania material.

They could have gone different directions to give ECW, their belt, and their few stars a good place on the card. The belt and the brand has to be on the card in at least one match other than the money in the bank. Seems like Punk vs Chavo is overdone, so I think the best thing they could do is a big clusterfuck for the title under extreme rules.

Mr. Nerfect

03-03-2008, 06:48 AM

Just throw all the former ECW Champions into the match, perhaps? Chavo Guerrero vs. Tommy Dreamer vs. John Morrison vs. CM Punk?

I'm still all for bringing Rob Van Dam back for a night, putting him over Chavo (come on, I love him, but it's Chavo), and giving the ECW fans a surprise feel-good moment). RVD can then forfeit the belt, and they can do a tournament for it (maybe even King of the Ring with the ECW Title being the prize), or they can get RVD to appear a few more times, and drop the belt to someone like Shelton Benjamin.

The Optimist

03-03-2008, 11:36 PM

So, Carlito's been added to the roster. I doubt it will matter much, but it's better than nothing.

Mr. Nerfect

03-04-2008, 02:27 AM

Hmm, Carlito being added is interesting. I guess it makes sense with Santino Marella hopefully squashing Jerry Lawler at WrestleMania and taking his place on the RAW commentary team for at least the rest of the evening (I can dream).

I like the way they've added Chris Jericho, Carlito and Mr. Kennedy. Those three men all share a lot of significance with the match. Jericho, in storylines, created the match; Carlito revived it for WrestleMania 22; and Mr. Kennedy won it last (the defending MITB champion, so to speak). Jeff Hardy is a Ladder Match icon, and Shelton Benjamin is a staple of the concept.

So far, all the participants are good picks, in my opinion.

El Fangel

03-04-2008, 02:29 AM

Yinno, Its kinda sad.

The best thing WWE has made in the past 7 years (post Invasion) is this match, and to decide who jobs to Cena at Summerslam.

The Optimist

03-04-2008, 03:43 AM

Be aware of my username while reading this: I think either a tie or Hardy winning is likely. Either way, there'll probably be a push down the line.

Lux

03-04-2008, 04:06 AM

Just throw all the former ECW Champions into the match, perhaps? Chavo Guerrero vs. Tommy Dreamer vs. John Morrison vs. CM Punk?

I'd be in favor of John Morrison, but seriously, chavo or dreamer, no way in hell, cm punk has been dead to me for awhile so if he's even in the match i'd blow chunks

Mr. Nerfect

03-05-2008, 02:29 AM

I'd be in favor of John Morrison, but seriously, chavo or dreamer, no way in hell, cm punk has been dead to me for awhile so if he's even in the match i'd blow chunks

Well, Chavo is currently the ECW Champion, so it seems to make sense he'd be in any ECW Title match. CM Punk is also being used as his rival and the guy nipping at his heels all the time.

Tommy Dreamer I just threw in there because he's got his rivalry with John Morrison and The Miz, and it puts half the match in there. I can see The Miz at ringside beating down Colin Delaney, which distracts Tommy Dreamer long enough for Morrison to take advantage and eliminate him from the match first.

Punk, Chavo and Morrison would be able to work some pretty fucking sweet spots into a match between them, and while it would make sense for Morrison to go next, I'd actually have Chavo eat a GTS, and get pinned by CM Punk. Then it can come down to CM Punk and John Morrison, the two guys who feuded over the vacant ECW Title last year. Punk then hits a Pepsi Plunge (I can dream), and pins John Morrison to win his second ECW Championship.

OK, so we won't be seeing the Pepsi Plunge anytime soon. But I personally don't mind the idea of the match.

Suicidal Icon

03-05-2008, 03:55 AM

I read there is possiblity of Kahli being added to the match:nono:

Mr. Nerfect

03-05-2008, 04:09 AM

I read there is possiblity of Kahli being added to the match:nono:

Oh God no. Just no. It will be fun to see him eat about twelve ladder shots and stay standing, but fuck, please no.

Lux

03-05-2008, 04:22 AM

Well, Chavo is currently the ECW Champion, so it seems to make sense he'd be in any ECW Title match. CM Punk is also being used as his rival and the guy nipping at his heels all the time.

Tommy Dreamer I just threw in there because he's got his rivalry with John Morrison and The Miz, and it puts half the match in there. I can see The Miz at ringside beating down Colin Delaney, which distracts Tommy Dreamer long enough for Morrison to take advantage and eliminate him from the match first.

Punk, Chavo and Morrison would be able to work some pretty fucking sweet spots into a match between them, and while it would make sense for Morrison to go next, I'd actually have Chavo eat a GTS, and get pinned by CM Punk. Then it can come down to CM Punk and John Morrison, the two guys who feuded over the vacant ECW Title last year. Punk then hits a Pepsi Plunge (I can dream), and pins John Morrison to win his second ECW Championship.

OK, so we won't be seeing the Pepsi Plunge anytime soon. But I personally don't mind the idea of the match.

Or punk could fade so far down the ECW roster and make me happy, i can agree when people have talent and are good and what not but seriously if the same guy (i.e Bats, Cena and now Punk) get to challenge for the title pay-per-view after pay-per-view and then hold it forever thens when i draw the line, punks had has shots, for the love of god lets see some freshness for christs sake :rant: Burke, Benjamin hell even Morrison who hasn't been near the title picture unless its to job to punk.

Mr. Nerfect

03-05-2008, 05:23 AM

Or punk could fade so far down the ECW roster and make me happy, i can agree when people have talent and are good and what not but seriously if the same guy (i.e Bats, Cena and now Punk) get to challenge for the title pay-per-view after pay-per-view and then hold it forever thens when i draw the line, punks had has shots, for the love of god lets see some freshness for christs sake :rant: Burke, Benjamin hell even Morrison who hasn't been near the title picture unless its to job to punk.

I agree with you, the WWE has made a mess of CM Punk's "push" as it stands. The man is losing cleanly to Chavo, and then earning more shots. But Punk is talented, and the guy the WWE wants to become ECW's star. The booking may be pretty shitty, but Punk being the guy in ECW is the right move, in my opinion.

Other guys should get a chance, I completely agree. Elijah Burke should definitely be in Money in the Bank, in my opinion, and you've got Shelton Benjamin in there. John Morrison, The Miz, Tommy Dreamer and Colin Delaney should make the card with their antics. But I can see why the WWE spends so much time focused on Punk. He is the guy they've marked as a star, because he does have the quality.

He's just been booked pretty inconsistently.

Mr. Nerfect

03-09-2008, 06:25 PM

MVP just defeated Jamie Noble at a house show to qualify for the Money in the Bank Ladder Match. I kind of suspected this would happen, as Matt Hardy did not return to television immediately, and start the appropriate rebuild of their feud.

I do, however, think we'll see Matt Hardy in the MITB Ladder Match, as well. This leaves one spot left, I believe. That will either go to Kane or CM Punk, I believe. Punk's spot in the match would make sense if they find someone to face Chavo for the ECW Title (fuck, even Kane could do it), and don't want to run another Chavo vs. Punk match. I can see the WWE giving Chavo and Punk a gimmick match spot on the card, however. Kane is the most likely entrant into the match. This would give RAW four slots for the match, SmackDown! three, and ECW one.

Now that he's in the match, I'm kind of thinking MVP has a good chance of winning. A lot of people are thinking of this as Jeff Hardy's match to win, but I'm not so sure. Jeff is on the rise no matter which way you look at it. MVP has also been rising, but the Money in the Bank stipulation just seems like his thing more so than Jeff.

I remember thinking to myself that Jeff Hardy would be my WrestleMania MITB Tipsters pick, unless MVP got in. Then I'd have to think about it some more. MVP has got a very good shot at winning, in my opinion.

Mr. Nerfect

03-09-2008, 06:35 PM

I'm really loving the way this MITB Ladder Match is shaping up. It's a great blend of guys, in my opinion.

Chris Jericho is making his second MITB appearance, and in kayfabe created the match. Shelton Benjamin is also returning from the original MITB Ladder Match, and this will be his third participating effort in the match. If Kane does make it into the match, it will be his second MITB appearance, having also appeared in the original. This would mean half the orginal MITB Ladder Match would make it into the fourth one.

Jeff Hardy is making his second MITB appearance, having lost last year. His brother will be in the match for the third time, tying Shelton Benjamin's record. It's Mr. Kennedy's second MITB match. He won the previous year, so is sort of the "defending champion" heading into the match.

Carlito revived the concept for WrestleMania 22 in storylines, but will be making his debut in the match this year. MVP will also be making his first appearance. It is looking like MVP will be United States Champion heading into the match, which would pit the US Champion against the Intercontinental Champion within the match.

I'm just loving this, as you have three guys from the original, two guys making their debut, and The Hardys returning from later incarnations of the match. I mean, this is assuming that Kane and Matt Hardy take the remaining two slots.

KingofOldSchool

03-09-2008, 06:36 PM

Eh I wouldn't bank on MVP being officially in MITB yet. Remember when Moore Wang qualified for the Rumble at a house show?

Yeah, they never ended in the Rumble.

They probably just did this for the crowd in attendance, but we will wait and see.

Hanso Amore

03-09-2008, 06:36 PM

Volchok

03-09-2008, 07:18 PM

Why does everyone want Kane in the match? I mean I have no problems with Kane but just like the other MITB he was in he really didn't do much to add to the match.

Hanso Amore

03-09-2008, 08:49 PM

Why does everyone want Kane in the match? I mean I have no problems with Kane but just like the other MITB he was in he really didn't do much to add to the match.

adding a big guy opens up some more power based spots and a different dynamic, it also lends a bit of name credibility to a match.

Mr. Nerfect

03-09-2008, 09:26 PM

adding a big guy opens up some more power based spots and a different dynamic, it also lends a bit of name credibility to a match.

This is it, really. It also means that we won't have to get Kane vs. The Great Khali, Kane vs. Mark Henry or Kane vs. Big Daddy V. Having a grounded guy also makes sure the match runs smoother, as he can ensure that spots go as planned, and stuff like that.

Umaga was my original choice for a big man in the match, but he's tied up elsewhere.

Hanso Amore

03-09-2008, 10:06 PM

with 8 guys, but 2 or 3 at a time in the big spots, Kane can clear house and work some small stuff to fill time between big spots.

Rob

03-10-2008, 04:50 AM

RVD forced himself into transitional champ material when he got busted with marijuna.

No he didn't. He was losing the title a couple of weeks after that anyway.

Rammsteinmad

03-10-2008, 12:25 PM

They should make MITB the main event coz right now it's looking pretty fucking sick.

Rammsteinmad

03-10-2008, 12:25 PM

Also, that was my 7,500th post.

The CyNick

03-10-2008, 03:11 PM

Looking at the match, it seems like its designed for Jeff Hardy to have a spectacular moment and win a big match.

Problem is that I see the MITB thing as a heel trophy. I mean when RVD won it, and waited for the ECW show to get the title shot, it made sense, and came across as a babyface move, but usually this seems like something a heel should win. The other problem, as I see it is that in looking at people's predictions this card seems to be extremely babyface win heavy. That should be the point of Mania, but some heels need to go over to set the table for the post-Mania build.

If they dont plan to give Hardy a title run/shot until the summer (Ive heard rumours on the net about Summerslam), then having him carry around that briefcase for 6 months doesnt really make sense to me. A true babyface move would be to take the title shot right away, or at least by the next PPV.

I would rather see Hardy do some big spot, but eventually lose the shot and transition into another fued. Someone here mentioned Jericho, I know they had that match on TV a couple weeks ago, so that makes good enough sense to me.

I would do something like have it come down to Jeff, Matt, MVP and Jericho with two ladders near the centre of the ring. Jeff and Jericho climb opposite one another and Matt and MVP do the same on the other ladder. Jericho gets the jump on everyone, and looks like he will reach first, but Jeff bumps him off and Jericho sells a knee/leg injury. Jeff is now in the lead, he's near the top, touches the briefcase, but Jericho does something like flip the ladder, or maybe because Jericho's knee/leg wont allow him to climb the ladder, he does something really cheap like pull out a rope or a chain of some type and ties Hardy's leg to the ladder, which prevents him from climbing to the top. In the meantime MVP and Matt go back and forth on the other ladder, and MVP finally somehow bumps off Hardy and grabs the briefcase.

That way you can build up a Jericho-Hardy program, and MVP gets the future title shot (which he can hang on to for however long they want) and he can still continue to fued with Matt Hardy over the spring for the US title and maybe even a match with the title shot on the line.

I would bet there's a decent chance Kane gets in the match. Kane is a major star, and has been with the company now for a long time. I would think they will try to find a spot for him, and even though he's not the ideal Ladder Match wrestler, he does add an additional element and he probably wouldnt hurt the match

Maluco

03-11-2008, 09:43 AM

Hadn't posted in this thread before because I was SO sure that Hardy was taking MiTB, and was upset because I think Wrestlemania this year will be predictable and usually the MiTB is the saving grace. There are usually a few contenders. This year, all I could see, and I think all the WWE could see, was Jeff Hardy.

NOW...things get interesting, with Hardy suspended for 60 days, suddenly this thread, and more importantly this match, gets very interesting!

Personally, I am thinking MVP if he has indeed qualified. I read that he has been getting big, big reactions at houseshows and MVP on Smackdown or Raw, walking around with a title shot opportunity, could be seen as a real threat. An MVP title win could be just what he needs to make him a main event player.

What are we all thinking/hoping for now Who will replace Hardy? Will WWE change the strategy for the rest of the entrants, to compensate for Hardy?

03-11-2008, 09:49 AM

I dunno.

Your right about Hardy, he doesnt need this. But the winner is GOING to be a champion this year. I think Hardy is the onyl one with a chance of that happening.

...and now he doesn't.

03-11-2008, 09:52 AM

Will WWE change the strategy for the rest of the entrants, to compensate for Hardy?

Seeing as it's a week away, probably not much, but the main feud going into this match was Jeff and Jericho. So now I think they will be shifting gears somehow.

Innovator

03-11-2008, 10:04 AM

Hardy has already been taken out of the match on WWE.com

Londoner

03-11-2008, 10:43 AM

Looking at the match, it seems like its designed for Jeff Hardy to have a spectacular moment and win a big match.

So much for that happening..

Jeritron

03-11-2008, 12:27 PM

Chances are MVP or Jericho

Mr. Pierre

03-11-2008, 12:28 PM

I could see Punk (qualify tonight?) or MVP taking it.

Heros Welcome

03-11-2008, 12:30 PM

I can now see Punk getting in there with a good shot at winning it. If not him, then Kennedy or MVP.

Afterlife

03-11-2008, 12:55 PM

Fuck that crap. Room for Stevie!!

Lux

03-11-2008, 07:31 PM

I could see Punk (qualify tonight?) or MVP taking it.

If i were you i'd put my vote on MVP, just for the sake of your life :mad:

KingofOldSchool

03-11-2008, 07:47 PM

Punk is facing Big Daddy V tonight in a MITB qualifier.

Either Punk wins or we get to see BDV trying to climb a ladder at Wrestlemania.

MMH

03-11-2008, 07:59 PM

Does Paul Burchill still wrestle? If he is a Pirate still I hope he qualifies and sets up a board on top of two ladders and makes someone walk the plank.

Londoner

03-11-2008, 08:16 PM

I want BDV to win that just for the laughs seeing him try to climb the ladder will bring.

Londoner

03-11-2008, 08:16 PM

Does Paul Burchill still wrestle? If he is a Pirate still I hope he qualifies and sets up a board on top of two ladders and makes someone walk the plank.

No he's not a 'pirate' anymore, they changed his gimmick, have you not been watching lately?

Londoner

03-11-2008, 08:21 PM

Yeah, its meant to be some kinda incest angle with katie lea his 'sister'. I don't think the gimmick will last that long tbh. They're just looking for something to fill the midcard with.

MMH

03-11-2008, 08:23 PM

Yeah, its meant to be some kinda incest angle with katie lea his 'sister'. I don't think the gimmick will last that long tbh. They're just looking for something to fill the midcard with.

lol

oh vince...

Londoner

03-11-2008, 08:23 PM

Eh, why is your post now suddenly under mine?

KingofOldSchool

03-11-2008, 09:38 PM

Here is some news.

I guess they are NOT going to replace Jeff Hardy in MITB and will just go with seven guys.

Mr. Nerfect

03-11-2008, 10:00 PM

I really hate the idea of seven men. It can work with eight, and it gives another guy the chance to get in. I'm fairly certain that Kane is going to be somewhere else on the card after all, so he'll be out. Matt Hardy can get in, and once again take his thrown as the favoured Hardy (seriously, these two seem to go back and forth so much), and then you have one slot left.

Give it to Paul Burchill in a Battle Royal set up on RAW by Triple H to decide who gets to take the place of the suspended Jeff Hardy. Basically just fill it with RAW's mid-carders, and have it come down to Paul Burchill and Hardcore Holly, or something. This also allows Katie Lea, who is no stranger to ladders, to get involved at WrestleMania.

Mr. Kennedy vs. Shelton Benjamin vs. Chris Jericho vs. Carlito vs. MVP vs. CM Punk vs. Paul Burchill vs. Matt Hardy

RVDmark

03-11-2008, 10:57 PM

Its all a work, Jeff will take his spot in MITB as a surprise on the night. Thats why there is a spot open. Either that or a returning RVD.

/Wakes up.

Lux

03-11-2008, 11:21 PM

Its all a work, Jeff will take his spot in MITB as a surprise on the night. Thats why there is a spot open. Either that or a returning RVD.

/Wakes up.

Yeah, because WWE wants to look like a great company that ingores its wellness policies... not

Mr. Nerfect

03-12-2008, 01:16 AM

*SMACKDOWN SPOILERS*

John Morrison defeated The Miz to qualify for the Money in the Bank Ladder Match at the SmackDown! tapings. I am of mixed mind about this. John Morrison is one of those guys that just feels like he belongs in a Ladder Match, and he does have the singles credentials, but he really should be focused on the whole tag team thing with The Miz while he is a WWE Tag Team Champion.

Hopefully this does not mean The Miz gets added to the match. I'd rather see The Miz get involved in the match unofficially, and serve in a pre-show Battle Royal, or something. Matt Hardy is still my pick for the last slot, and I think they'll give him a big dramatic return win into the match, probably on RAW.

My guess is that the Money in the Bank Ladder Match will end up being: Mr. Kennedy vs. Shelton Benjamin vs. Chris Jericho vs. Carlito vs. MVP vs. CM Punk vs. John Morrison vs. Matt Hardy. Of all those guys, only Carlito and John Morrison feel awkward, but they'll be fantastic in the match, I'm sure.

What I love about this year's MITB Ladder Match is that you have eight guys who can really thrive in the Ladder Match environment. There is no big man in there to throw people around, there is no "grounded" guy to play off that dynamic. You pretty much have eight crazy bastards. I think we'll see each of them do something cringe worthy, and it will be a glorious fun mess.

Evil Vito

03-12-2008, 10:49 AM

MMH

03-12-2008, 11:00 AM

I rather like how this year the match features practically all rising stars with the exception of Jericho. Last year we had way too many vets and former champs (Edge, Booker, Finlay).

Mr. Nerfect

03-12-2008, 04:10 PM

<font color=goldenrod>I don't see Matt Hardy being in MITB. Rather, I could see him as a mystery etrant in the 24-man #1 Contender ECW Title Battle Royal. He goes on to win...and wins the belt.

Meanwhile, MVP wins MITB and we see him get back into his feud with Matt and MVP ultimately tries to cash in...Matt can retain (because face it, the MITB winner can't ALWAYS win the title, they've been hyping that fact so much)</font>

This is a possibility, too. They could have added Matt Hardy by now if they wanted to. They might be going with the big face moment in adding him "unexpectedly" last, but what you say does make sense.

Kane and Matt Hardy are the only two guys I can really see challenging Chavo Guerrero for the ECW Championship at WrestleMania. Rob Van Dam is still on my pipe dream list, and Tommy Dreamer wouldn't surprise me (really, it wouldn't), but Matt Hardy is probably the second most likely option.

It'd also be a nice "fuck you" to Jeff. He wants to go around being a druggie, we'll just push his good older brother to a "World Title" before him.

I really think the WWE should start considering the ECW Championship a top belt again. I mean, it was never the most prestigious in the company, but they could at least recognise it as being the same tier as the WWE or World Heavyweight Championships. They should have put CM Punk over cleanly in that Champion vs. Champion Match from ECW a few months back.