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GD
03-03-2008, 10:34 AM
The combined smackdown and ecw roster cannot match upto the raw roster. IYO which Raw talent can choke the smackdown roster by the throat and shake it from its very foundation.

Londoner
03-03-2008, 10:45 AM
That's cause every superstar smackdown creates gets sent to raw in the draft. And raw ends up burying them to hhh/cena.

The Ravishing One
03-03-2008, 10:48 AM
Id like to see Cena go back to Smackdown. That way i'll never see him again.

:shifty:

JH
03-03-2008, 11:17 AM
Umaga

Jeritron
03-03-2008, 11:22 AM
Well thats certainly an understatment. They need about 2 big main eventers and an upper midcarder or two.

At this point the main event is one heel, and 2 face hosses. The upper midcard consists of one solid heel and two faces, who are currently out of action. Other than that they have a bunch of bland subsitutes and jobbers.

They could use Shawn Michaels, but he's never going to Smackdown and neither is HHH or Cena in the forseeable future.

Raw has too many faces. They are lost in the shuffle. With HHH, HBK and Cena running the show, it's hard for Hardy and Jericho to make a splash despite being over. Leave Hardy on Raw and develop him, but move Jericho to Smackdown. He'd be way more valuable there, where he can come in key as a face who isn't a super heavyweight monster, and can also play the heel role if need be.

Smackdown should also recieve CM Punk fulltime to work in the uppermidcard with Matt Hardy and MVP

Umaga would also be a nice pick up for them since he's begun to run his course on Raw and would do well fueding with a fresh crop

GD
03-03-2008, 11:23 AM
Throat didn't specifically mean u(you)manga. HBK and HHH have wrestled about every talent on the raw roster including jim ross.

Heros Welcome
03-03-2008, 11:33 AM
Jeritron pretty much hit the nail on the head.

As much as I think HBK should go to SD, it will never happen.

With the way Jericho is looking now, he will always play second fiddle to HHH and Cena. Seeing him go to SD would be big.

Imagine if both HBK and Jericho went to SD....*dreaming* HBK and Jericho feud over the title :drool:

For Punk, I'm pretty convinced he is going to SD full time after mania. I mean I know Tuesday nights is pretty much The Punk Show, but there isn't really much left for him to do over there. Him in feuds with Matt Hardy and MVP would be great tv.

St. Jimmy
03-03-2008, 11:36 AM
Jeff Hardy.

Dorkchop
03-03-2008, 01:27 PM
Id like to see Cena go back to Smackdown. That way i'll never see him again.

:shifty:

Same here. I barely watch Smackdown. When I do, I can't watch it for that long. It's pretty bad.

Londoner
03-03-2008, 01:29 PM
I would love it if Jericho became a star on smackdown.

Xero
03-03-2008, 01:32 PM
With the move to My Network coming up, I could see them trading one or two OFF of SmackDown! and just giving them shit in the draft.

Fox
03-03-2008, 01:40 PM
Chris Jericho would be an excellent asset to Smackdown.

But so would the development of their current stars. Paul Burchill should have stayed on Smackdown and been built up with a reasonable gimmick (incest and pirating are not reasonable gimmicks). The man can work if they give him a chance.

Also, Kenny Dykstra is currently out of action, but upon his return, he should be treated as an up and coming face, and should be given some sort of "fluke" victory over a big name star like Edge or MVP. Kenny is also a great worker, they just haven't given him a chance to shine.

Tommy Gunn
03-03-2008, 01:53 PM
I've really lost interest in Edge since ther Vickie storyline cropped up, MVP needs to take his top heel spot sometime this year.

I like the idea of Jericho moving to SD, because we all know after Mania that Dancin Dave will get a majority of the title shots from April through to next years Rumble.

Mr. Nerfect
03-03-2008, 09:32 PM
I'm actually not too big on Chris Jericho moving to SmackDown!. I can see why people like the idea, but I'm not ready to give up on Jericho yet. The man is still a great wrestler, and is still great on the mic, and people are starting to get back into him. His match with Jeff Hardy on RAW created quite the split crowd, and I'm hoping he kicks it into gear for WrestleMania, and really shines in the Money in the Bank Ladder Match.

If I were booking, Jericho would go over. No offence to Jeff Hardy, but he really doesn't need the win. He's rising without it. While Jericho is a former three-time World Champion, his momentum is kind of iffy, at best, so giving him a big win like that can get him out of the mud, so to speak.

Jeff Hardy is someone I think SmackDown! could use, however. Matt is still on SmackDown!, and their DVD is coming out. While it is an individual look at both guys' careers, so having a Hardy on each side would help advertise it more, putting The Hardys on the same roster could get fans interested. Jeff just seems to fit the SmackDown!/ECW side of things better, anyway.

Umaga is a guy that I agree needs to move brands, moreso for himself than providing star power for anyone. Someone I also think could use a change, especially after they lose at WrestleMania, is Randy Orton. I still want to see Matt Hardy looking for revenge against Orton after he kicked his head in. A Matt Hardy vs. MVP vs. Randy Orton vs. Jeff Hardy match for the United States Championship would be a lot of fun, and remind me a lot of the old Heyman booked SmackDown! days. Not of the individuals, just the approach.

I think one of "RAW's top three" also needs to move. By that I am referring to one of either John Cena, Triple H or Shawn Michaels. HBK and Triple H have been a part of RAW since the brand split, and both seem pretty adamant about staying there, which I think is stupid. SmackDown!/ECW needs a big star to really guide it, and make it look worth something. That is why I'd actually move John Cena.

Shawn Michaels would be my first ideal choice, I guess, and Triple H on SmackDown!/ECW would at least be an interesting experiment, but John Cena will do whatever he is told. He has a good work ethic that way. Cena becoming the face of SmackDown! and even ECW will cause more marks to flock there, perhaps, and with ECW only confirmed for one more year, and SmackDown! going to a new network, it would be good to have that kind of strength.

Cena will no doubt be WWE Champion after WrestleMania, so I'm thinking that maybe they can do another Champion swap? Originally the World Heavyweight Championship was a RAW belt, and the WWE Title was SmackDown!-exclusive. This would mean The Undertaker would move to RAW, which I think would fit. Taker has been on SmackDown! for a while, and he would seem to fit the RAW main event scene with Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho and Batista, who I think will be drafted over. Finlay is also someone I can see moving to RAW full-time.

Another positive of moving John Cena to SmackDown!, is that the WWE can edit out some of the boos, and edit in some more cheers. Eventually it might become subliminally imprinted on fans to not boo John Cena at PPVs.

So this would leave the main event scenes as looking something like:

RAW:
1. The Undertaker (World Heavyweight Champion)
2. Triple H
3. Shawn Michaels
4. Chris Jericho
5. Batista
6. Finlay
7. Mr. Kennedy
8. JBL

SmackDown!:
1. John Cena (WWE Champion)
2. Edge
3. Big Show
4. Rey Mysterio
5. Umaga
6. Randy Orton
7. Matt Hardy
8. Jeff Hardy
9. MVP
10. Kane

A few of the crapper guys like Mark Henry and The Great Khali can be moved back down the card a bit, or they can be transferred over to RAW, or can spend most of their time on ECW.

Jeritron
03-03-2008, 09:35 PM
Yes, lets put all the young and rising talent, including the biggest draws, on the taped B show and load Raw with the veterans

Please.

And Jeff Hardy does need to win MITB. And he will. The only way Jeff Hardy won't be the winner of MITB is if it's a tie, with him and Jericho. Which I can actually see happening

Kane Knight
03-04-2008, 12:11 PM
Being on Smackdown only serves to hurt any major talent sent that way. They've made Smackdown shit, and now they have a problem with nobody giving a shit. Big talents won't change that.

thedamndest
03-04-2008, 12:13 PM
Smackdown is one giant undercard that features the Undertaker.

Mr. Nerfect
03-05-2008, 02:22 AM
Yes, lets put all the young and rising talent, including the biggest draws, on the taped B show and load Raw with the veterans

Please.

And Jeff Hardy does need to win MITB. And he will. The only way Jeff Hardy won't be the winner of MITB is if it's a tie, with him and Jericho. Which I can actually see happening

The biggest draws? Who in the WWE actually fucking draws these days? I think Big Show does, and he is on SmackDown!, so I'll give you that much.

The young rising talent on SmackDown! has always sort of been their approach to things. RAW has always been the more entertainment-based show, where guys go out, squash a guy for two minutes, and then leave. You'll see a lot more wrestling on SmackDown!, which favours the guys who are young, still need some practice, and can still actually consistently go at that pace.

If MVP goes to RAW, you know there is a large chance he will eat a Pedigree every week. On a lighter SmackDown!, he might actually get to thrive.

And Jeff Hardy doesn't need to win Money in the Bank. Jeff Hardy needs to keep being Jeff Hardy, and keep momentum. Not winning MITB will not disrupt his momentum anymore than not winning for Mr. Kennedy, Shelton Benjamin or Chris Jericho would do. In fact, I think not winning would hurt Chris Jericho and Mr. Kennedy more than it would Jeff Hardy.

But yes, Jeff Hardy will be winning.