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Tornado
03-11-2008, 09:06 AM
credit - WWE.com
STAMFORD, Conn. – In accordance with its Substance Abuse and Drug Testing Policy, WWE has suspended Jeff Hardy (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/jeffhardy/) for 60 days, for his second violation of the company’s policy.
fucking hell Jeff.
Innovator
03-11-2008, 09:08 AM
Fucking idiot
Innovator
03-11-2008, 09:10 AM
Honestly, biggest push of his career, chance to really get up there and make some money, and he gets caught again BEFORE Mania....wow
Dave Youell
03-11-2008, 09:42 AM
God dammit it!
Yep, this push seems over (moron). :-\
Seeing as he was the shoe in for the Money in the Bank, who do you think is getting it now?
addy2hotty
03-11-2008, 09:44 AM
Go Jericho go!
Innovator
03-11-2008, 09:46 AM
I'm gonna say MVP
Innovator
03-11-2008, 09:48 AM
Unless Punk gets in, then I'm pulling for him to get the MITB and get off ECW
Gerard
03-11-2008, 09:54 AM
Bye bye push. What a tard. :nono:
Tornado
03-11-2008, 10:13 AM
Nice, i beat the TPWW news bot by 20mins on this.
McLegend
03-11-2008, 10:13 AM
lol
Evil Vito
03-11-2008, 10:13 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Fucking idiot. I hope he never gets a push this big again, and he probably won't.</font>
Last night when he lost the IC title I figured it was either getting him ready for the MITB win or, well, missing the house shows was bad.
Seriously, people said he should have been main eventing this year. Had this happened they would have been seriously fucked. I'm glad it happened, proves that he has no business in the main event and will never be there again, the fucking idiot.
I guess I was right when I said he was an irresponsible moron.
Dave Youell
03-11-2008, 10:17 AM
Nice, i beat the TPWW news bot by 20mins on this.
There goes my hope of this being more Boone mis-reporting
Jordan
03-11-2008, 10:22 AM
Fucking hell man. Why would he do this? Wow one of the most exciting things of 2008 in Wrestling was Jeff Hardy, and its over. Fuckin hell.
interforce
03-11-2008, 10:23 AM
Wow!
He has the fans making noise for him. He deserves a massive push. WWE gave him all the support he needed then he goes and fucks it all up!
All that talent wasted. He is like the Gazza of the wrestling world.
Fucking idiot!
So where's the pothead who's going to defend him by saying the drug policy is bullshit and unfair?
Just realized that he'll probably be gone from the company within the year, when he fails again.
Jordan
03-11-2008, 10:28 AM
Well I'll be the token pot head here. WWE doesn't suspend wrestlers for pot, they only get a 1000 dollar fine. So Jeff was either caught with roids or some other drug like coke, or soma or something like that.
Oh, yeah...
Which throws Shadow's "he doesn't take the hard stuff" claim out the window. (Assuming it wasn't painkillers, of course.)
interforce
03-11-2008, 10:29 AM
Just realized that he'll probably be gone from the company within the year, when he fails again.
Good riddence if you ask me. How better way to thank someone for a push then to get caught taking drugs. :shifty:
You never know though. This might be a good thing. Look what has happened to Kenndy after he came back from his suspension :shifty::wtf:
Innovator
03-11-2008, 10:30 AM
$5 says HHH gets his win back within two weeks of the suspension being up
I wouldn't be the least surprised if he was suspended for the use of painkillers due to the work he has been doing this year. Now, that isn't an excuse, but it is an idea that others have stated as well. I can't possibly see how Jeff would take anything other then painkillers or something of that form, but who knows. I'm glad WWE didn't pull the trigger on a title run, that would be bad news. They played it smart on this hand, they didn't give the massive push the fans wanted because they knew he might relapse. What a fucking fairytale.
Londoner
03-11-2008, 10:39 AM
WOW, that's a shock, no wonder jeff dropped the title last night. I have felt somewhat understanding of jeff up till now..but not this time, i personally as a fan feel let down by this bullshit, and now the mitb match will probably feel like its missing something without him there.
SammyG
03-11-2008, 10:51 AM
Dumbass Hardy.
Impact!
03-11-2008, 10:54 AM
DAMMIT :(
Mr. JL
03-11-2008, 11:10 AM
Well I remember reading this well over a month ago and was prepared for it, because I just do not know how one does Jeff Hardy's style...
I saw this on wrestling-edge.com about a month ago and I'm too lazy to find it so I'm just pulling it from where ever I could find it.
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WrestlingRevealed.com has learned that WWE is concerned with Jeff Hardy’s health.
Aside from the rigors of professional wrestling, Jeff Hardy punishes his body with his hobbies as well. In particular, the Rainbow Haired Warrior has suffered an assortment of injuries from doing motocross.
In a recent interview, Jeff Hardy has stated that his ankles are really weak. There’s a bone chip in his right kneecap. Both of his elbows are giving him problems. Jeff Hardy also has a herniated disc in his neck and his back.
It’s no secret that Jeff Hardy generates a lot of money for WWE with merchandise sales. The company would rather that he not put his body more at risk than it needs to be. However, Jeff Hardy has always been known as someone that was as passionate about his other hobbies as he is about wrestling.
Jeff is a retard to continue wrestling. We know this.
Londoner
03-11-2008, 11:13 AM
I don't think jeff really wants to be there and just wanted to get out without walking out or something.
Theo Dious
03-11-2008, 11:17 AM
Shit. One of the few guys who's entertained me lately.
Porcupine
03-11-2008, 11:17 AM
Great! Now I have zero interest in Wrestlemania. The little interest that I had hinged on the chance of Jeff winning the MITB and cashing it in.
Go MVP go for the MITB now.
Ruien
03-11-2008, 11:18 AM
Poor Shadow.
TerranRich
03-11-2008, 11:22 AM
Jeff Hardy is the next Kurt Angle. I want to see a Jeff Hardy Deathwatch thread.
Heros Welcome
03-11-2008, 11:22 AM
You have got to be fucking kidding me. Jesus Jeff.
Jordan
03-11-2008, 11:23 AM
I hope Matt Hardy wins MITB now.
Mr. JL
03-11-2008, 11:24 AM
Man, this sucks. Jeff was the only reason I bother tuning into RAW.
... see you all in 60 days :wave:
ClockShot
03-11-2008, 11:30 AM
Hmmm. So maybe there was a hidden motive for Jeff droping the IC title belt last night. Sure we all knew he was the lock to win Money in the Bank. But now this.
So I guess the question now is who rides on his rocket to the top until creative figures out something?
matt for mitb and the world title push
KingofOldSchool
03-11-2008, 11:41 AM
Jericho got Punk'd.
(ie: Only winning a title due to a Wellness violation)
Heros Welcome
03-11-2008, 11:42 AM
Jericho got Punk'd.
(ie: Only winning a title due to a Wellness violation)
Bingo
KingofOldSchool
03-11-2008, 11:44 AM
You know what this means?
SNITSKY IN THE BANK!
Heros Welcome
03-11-2008, 11:44 AM
Sloppy BIG BOOTS for ALL!
KingofOldSchool
03-11-2008, 11:46 AM
Backcne in the Bank
The winner gets a case of Clearasil.
This has even been picked up by the AP.
STAMFORD, Conn. (AP) _ World Wrestling Entertainment has suspended one of its most popular performers for a second violation of the company's drug policy.
Stamford-based WWE spokesman Gary Davis says wrestler Jeff Hardy, who has headlined numerous live and pay-per-view events, has been suspended for 60 days. He would not say what drugs were involved.
Davis says there have been about 30 suspensions under the WWE substance abuse and drug testing policy begun in 2006, which requires tests for steroids and other drugs.
A wrestler faces a 30-day suspension without pay for a first violation, a 60-day suspension for a second violation and firing for a third violation. Performers are tested at least four times per year.
Last August, WWE suspended 10 wrestlers for violations of its drug testing policy involve drug purchases, mostly human growth hormones.
Splaya
03-11-2008, 11:59 AM
I think I feel the same way when I say that i am seriously let down by this. This was it for Jeff Hardy, the push was there, MITB was going to be his and he let it slip through his fingers. If it was hardcore drugs, then I feel no remorse by saying this. HOWEVER, if it was for painkillers, then I look at as being 50% his fault, and 50% being the WWE's fault
KingofOldSchool
03-11-2008, 12:04 PM
Maybe this was the reason why he wasn't at the house shows over the weekend.
Splaya
03-11-2008, 12:06 PM
Chris Jericho defeated Jeff Hardy last night on RAW to win the IC title. The crowd was pro-Y2J for the match. Hardy was able to duck an Enzuigiri and hit the Twist of Fate. He then went to the top rope for the finish but it backfired because Jericho moved and the Swanton got nothing. Y2J hit his new CODEBREAKER finisher and won the title. I'm sensing there are problems with Hardy backstage. We'll see. I've heard some stuff but I'll hold off on reporting it for now
That was from Wrestlezone.com, last night, just after Raw ended.
You know, he has one last chance, this ranks up here with the dumbass antics of RVD, the only difference being RVD actually had the strap
Jeritron
03-11-2008, 12:16 PM
The question is, if Jeff Hardy had the strap or was challenging for it heading into Wrestlemania at this point, would this suspension have happened?
I think not, I bet it would have gotten swept under the rug and they'd suspend him at a later date
KingofOldSchool
03-11-2008, 12:17 PM
The question is, if Jeff Hardy had the strap or was challenging for it heading into Wrestlemania at this point, would this suspension have happened?
I think not, I bet it would have gotten swept under the rug and they'd suspend him at a later date
Probably would have suspended him the day after Mania.
Splaya
03-11-2008, 12:18 PM
I dunno, if it had been someone like Cena vs Hardy, you could have HHH come out and injure Hardy, and turn him heel. So I think they would have suspended him either way
Splaya
03-11-2008, 12:19 PM
Credit: PWInsider.com
There was shock and disbelief in the WWE locker room last night when word of Jeff Hardy's impending suspension made the rounds. Hardy is pretty well liked backstage, but there was a lot of disappointment after the news broke which lead to several guys asking out loud "Can you believe what an idiot he is?"
Even guys in the company who have used substances in the past have realized that the rules have changed in WWE and you can't do things anymore that you might have gotten away with back in the day.
That's the backstage reaction to it
Mr. Pierre
03-11-2008, 12:19 PM
Shit, that's just horrible...
Seriously, the guy is set up for a MOTN candidate against Umaga (Street Fight?) at Summerslam - Suspended
Then he's set up for a MITB win to eventually have a huge money match - Suspended
He is forever fucked. He's probably going to ECW when he gets back, because WWE can't trust him to be their biggest star.
Jeritron
03-11-2008, 12:20 PM
Not to mention the momentum and push he was on the verge of
Well, at least we'll probably get Punk vs. Hardy - straight edge vs... Not so straight edge. :shifty:
mrslackalack
03-11-2008, 12:26 PM
RVD would be proud of Jeff.
Heros Welcome
03-11-2008, 12:28 PM
RVD would be proud of Jeff.
No doubt.
I'm sure him an Jeff will be token up at least once over the next 60 days
Kane Knight
03-11-2008, 12:28 PM
Honestly, biggest push of his career, chance to really get up there and make some money, and he gets caught again BEFORE Mania....wow
Bye bye push. What a tard. :nono:
Dumbass Hardy.
After that, I got bored with multiquoting.
This is why drug users are complete and utter retards.
Kane Knight
03-11-2008, 12:30 PM
RVD would be proud of Jeff.
He would then whine about how Jeff was suspended for Pot (He wasn't), and how it's bullshit because pot doesn't hurt people, and then complain about he doesn't understand why he was suspended for pot (which he wasn't).
Is lying a trait of the gene that makes you prone to drug abuse?
KingofOldSchool
03-11-2008, 12:30 PM
I hope you guys realize that this wasn't over weed as they don't suspend guys for weed.
(This wasn't directed at KK's above post)
Kane Knight
03-11-2008, 12:32 PM
I hope you guys realize that this wasn't over weed as they don't suspend guys for weed.
(This wasn't directed at KK's above post)
Well, I know at least a few people do. The rest might. Maybe.,
Splaya
03-11-2008, 12:38 PM
As I said it's either hardcore drugs or Painkillers.
It's obviously NOT steroids :roll:
Just because you don't LOOK it doesn't mean you don't SHOOT it.
I hope you guys realize that this wasn't over weed as they don't suspend guys for weed.
(This wasn't directed at KK's above post)
I'm sure he was on weed when he was doing the other drugs though. That's just a guess, because I would have to be really stoned to toss my career chance he had out the window.
Mr. Pierre
03-11-2008, 12:41 PM
I'm not condoning Jeff using painkillers (if he did), but if he was really beat up, like someone mentioned with the elbow chips, weak ankles, etc. don't you think they could have given him some time off during the week? Why not stick him in a tag match at a houseshow instead, and let his partner wrestle majority of the match?
Well, I guess he has 60 days to heal up now...
KingofOldSchool
03-11-2008, 12:41 PM
The Price is Right loser horn music would be appropriate for Jeff right about now.
Innovator
03-11-2008, 12:43 PM
If he needs surgery for that shit, he might as well do it now...but he's an idiot still. If you're hurting, take time off, don't take shit that can fuck up your career.
Doesn't the wellness policy state that you CAN take almost anything as long as you have a prescription for it? That's what makes these suspensions all the more stupid.
Innovator
03-11-2008, 12:48 PM
Doesn't the wellness policy state that you CAN take almost anything as long as you have a prescription for it? That's what makes these suspensions all the more stupid.
Seriously, all he needed was a mark doctor to fill out a prescription for him
KingofOldSchool
03-11-2008, 12:51 PM
http://content.ytmnd.com/content/d/9/3/d9316af95d9ee2466d7d8a555390afe8.wav
KingofOldSchool
03-11-2008, 12:52 PM
Seriously, all he needed was a mark doctor to fill out a prescription for him
http://www.slammers.iaw.com/pictures/nick.jpg
"I may not be a Mark, but I'm a Nick. HHHHIIIIII EVERYBODY!"
Kane Knight
03-11-2008, 12:55 PM
Just because you don't LOOK it doesn't mean you don't SHOOT it.
Indeeed. The Hurricane didn't look like he was on enhancement drugs. Nor did Funaki, Smackdown Numba Won Pusha!
If he needs surgery for that shit, he might as well do it now...but he's an idiot still. If you're hurting, take time off, don't take shit that can fuck up your career.
Yeah, that's the thing. It's really easy to get painkillers legally. If he was injured and that was the reason, he could have done that. But he's an idiot, so....
The Optimist
03-11-2008, 01:21 PM
If he needs surgery for that shit, he might as well do it now...but he's an idiot still. If you're hurting, take time off, don't take shit that can fuck up your career.
Taking time off at this point in his "push" would probably have the same effect this suspension will have. Murder.
Johnny Vegas
03-11-2008, 01:24 PM
...maybe its a work
Kane Knight
03-11-2008, 01:29 PM
Taking time off at this point in his "push" would probably have the same effect this suspension will have. Murder.
Well, it looks like a lot of his injuries actually date back. Even the more recent shit sounds like it's just new injuries because of or impacted by the old ones.
Sambora256
03-11-2008, 01:33 PM
as a huge jeff hardy fan i am really dissapointed with him. as we have all said it was the biggest push of his carear and i had hopes of him cashinng in the MITB at the end of mania. closing mania with jeff as the champion would have been a great moment in wrestling and hes blown it. well done jeff
Boondock Saint
03-11-2008, 01:35 PM
Damn. That sucks.
RGWhat316
03-11-2008, 01:36 PM
Blame Cena, lol. Since we all knew when Cena returned early, Jeff was done. But anyways, I am shocked. He has been really entertaining so far this year but it seems he has gone and screwed it up. And you know now that HHH is really pissed for putting him over now.
I was serious thinking during Raw last night that the Wellness policy hasn't had a new victim in a while and boom there is one. What a tit. At least Money In The Bank now is more open than a certain Hardy win.
Pardeep 619
03-11-2008, 02:10 PM
If you're hurting, take time off, don't take shit that can fuck up your career.
Easier said than done. Most wrestlers do wrestle when they're sore or hurt. It's not like the wrestling culture is understanding to when a person is hurting, as he would probably lose his push that way anyhow and also get heat backstage for it.
Evil Vito
03-11-2008, 02:13 PM
<font color=goldenrod>And what I also hate about this is that here I was thinking they were actually interested in doing something with Jericho...and now it just seems like Jericho ONLY won due to Jeff getting suspended.</font> :(
KingofOldSchool
03-11-2008, 02:20 PM
Matt updated his Myspace blog this morning. He's into cryptic messages, but I think this one is pretty obvious:
I know two people of different genders who are in a dilemma at this time. One of these individuals I am extremely close with-the other one I used to be. The thing that worries me is that they're both playing around in the deep water and can't swim. I can swim. Ironically, Eulogy by Tool just came up on random.
Mercury Bullet
03-11-2008, 02:20 PM
What the fuck is wrong with this guy? What a fucking moron.
I've always been a Hardy skeptic, always thought he was overrated, never sold on his main event potential, not until his most recent run. He had me convinced, that wow, he's fucking for real. He was every bit as over now as he was back in his prime a few years ago, if not more over. He has been in World Title matches, was probably going to win MITB this year...there was so many huge opportunities for him coming up. This really was the peak of his career, and boom, 60 days on the shelf now for being a fucking dumbass.
This is his second violation now, and you know what, I wouldn't stop at 60 days this time. It's his second violation under the new policy, and we all know he's had problems before in the past so who knows exactly how many times they've had to bring the hammer down on him for this shit. Jeff Hardy fucking blew it. Big time. And If I was the WWE, fuck him. I'd fire him today and tell him not to let the door hit him in the ass on the way out. They've given him way too many opportunities for this shit to still be going on. His WWE career is as good as over.
Maybe he'll go back to TNA, headline some shit there, and waste away for what little time he has left in the wrestling business. But you know what, he doesn't even deserve that, he shouldn't be main eventing crap-ass TNA. For me, from now on, Jeff Hardy will always be the guy the could have been huge and bombed out maybe bigger than anybody else EVER. He's let his hardcore fans down too many times, he's let his employers down too many times, he's proven his skeptics RIGHT too many times, fuck him. He's done.
Jeritron
03-11-2008, 02:37 PM
<font color=goldenrod>And what I also hate about this is that here I was thinking they were actually interested in doing something with Jericho...and now it just seems like Jericho ONLY won due to Jeff getting suspended.</font> :(
How was that not them seriously being interested in doing something? He's held the belt 8 times. It's not really a step up or down, and he won it clean off Jeff Hardy who has been momentus and over as hell.
I think the bottom line is, Jericho returning was a big moment, then it was back to basics which means uppermidcard. He's been doing fine there. They'll prob use him in the same capacity, with an occasional main event push every so often. It's not a bad thing.
It's also a credit to him as a performer and employee, since when the most popular guy on the roster has to go they send him out there to take his title for "safekeeping" knowing that he's not gonna fuck up with the belt or be a lesser champion. He may not be the biggest draw or the most powerful backstage, but I think he's genuinely well liked and respected and probably seen as one of the most trustworthy and consistent employees they have. He supposedly has never missed a date for WWE, and I think it's no coincidence that they're sending him of all their talent back to Larry King Live along with Cena after how well they did on there after the Benoit thing.
Innovator
03-11-2008, 02:40 PM
WWE, according to their new policy, can suspend Jeff indefinitely without pay until he completes a rehab course. People are saying Jeff would rather quit than go to rehab, meaning he doesn't think he has a problem.
Two things now
1) Hi, 2003!
2) Looks like Jeff could be gone
Londoner
03-11-2008, 02:41 PM
100% agreed jeritron. Its not a bad thing at all.
KingofOldSchool
03-11-2008, 02:42 PM
WWE, according to their new policy, can suspend Jeff indefinitely without pay until he completes a rehab course. People are saying Jeff would rather quit than go to rehab, meaning he doesn't think he has a problem.
Two things now
1) Hi, 2003!
2) Looks like Jeff could be gone
At least 2007/2008 Jeff wasn't botching everything in sight and actually trying out there.
Then again, the more things change, the more they stay the same.
Wow.
You know, there's something to be said about this wellness policy when it can turn so many fans against such a beloved wrestler as Jeff Hardy in less than 24 hours.
Now, I know that the rules have changed in wrestling; the guys can't get away with the stuff they used to be able to get away with, and that's probably a good thing. It will lead to less and less tragic endings like Eddie Guerrero's, and that's great.
My problem with the system is that you'll never see a Triple H, or a Shawn Michaels, or an Undertaker, or a Batista, or a John Cena, or a Randy Orton getting suspended due to the wellness policy. These guys are protected by Vince McMahon. And anyone who doesn't believe that Batista and Triple H (at least) take steroids needs to have their eyes checked.
But because Jeff is smaller, not as big of a star as those guys, it's extremely unfortunate that it has to happen, but he is expendable in terms of the line-up for WrestleMania (that, and I'm sure Triple H doesn't mind flushing out arguably the most popular face in the WWE for 60 days), and so his suspension sends him out the door.
However, because the rules have changed, the lockerroom has gotten smarter, and Jeff should have gotten smarter too, especially considering the wave his career was riding. It was dumb to take the pills. It was dumb to not have an "out" for the random drug test. There's no question about that. But, at the same time, the fact that part of the roster doesn't have to worry about these things isn't fair.
Who's wrong and who's right? Kurt Angle and Booker T both bolted from the WWE over issues with the wellness policy. But the fact of the matter is that it's reality for a WWE wrestler, and Jeff should know that.
Either way, I can't just forget that Jeff is one of the most talented and entertaining superstars on the WWE roster, just like I don't dislike RVD or Eddie Guerrero for their drug-related mishaps and endings. I will, however, gladly await his return to the ring, and so long as he continues to entertain me in the ring, as a wrestler, I'll be more than happy to welcome him back.
Londoner
03-11-2008, 02:48 PM
Its kinda funny that ever since he changed his theme music things went downhill.
Jeritron
03-11-2008, 02:49 PM
I agree that it's biased. Granted Jeff's one of the most popular stars involved heavily with a major match and holding a title, but it woudln't be the same for say Randy Orton. I honestly don't think that Orton would go out on Raw and drop the title and serve the suspension thus taking him out of mania and ruining the slated main event if his piss test came up positive. They'd probably do something like remove him from house shows and fine him, and keep it secret until after Mania where he could serve the suspension. Or else they'd kabitz with him and have him appeal or something to draw the process out 20 days.
Either way, they punished Jeff and took the hit to their own promotion according to policy, but although its a major setback it is recoverable. If it was something like Big Show or a main eventer I think they'd handle it differently to protect their own interests and preserve the card for the biggest ppv of the year.
KingofOldSchool
03-11-2008, 02:52 PM
Ummm Randy Orton's been suspended under the Wellness Policy before.
Londoner
03-11-2008, 02:56 PM
To be fair i don't think you could put him on the same level as the top guys back then.
Orton is just as expendable as Hardy is in WWE's eyes. In fact, with RAW clearly beginning to shift focus to Hardy slowly but surely you would think he would be one of the ones they'd protect.
The ONLY people 100% immune from the wellness policy are Triple H and Vince, along with possibly Michaels and Undertaker. I think they would easily suspend anyone else.
Ummm Randy Orton's been suspended under the Wellness Policy before.
Orton was suspended in April of 2006 due to "Unprofessional Conduct," rumored to have been due to a poor attitude backstage as well as "fits." Orton spent 4 weeks in anger management during his suspension.
Orton has not been suspended due to violation of the wellness policy.
KingofOldSchool
03-11-2008, 03:08 PM
Orton is just as expendable as Hardy is in WWE's eyes. In fact, with RAW clearly beginning to shift focus to Hardy slowly but surely you would think he would be one of the ones they'd protect.
The ONLY people 100% immune from the wellness policy are Triple H and Vince, along with possibly Michaels and Undertaker. I think they would easily suspend anyone else.
I really think Cena is among the immune.
You're right.
But aside from those five, they'd be willing to suspend anyone.
KingofOldSchool
03-11-2008, 03:15 PM
You're right.
But aside from those five, they'd be willing to suspend anyone.
Even Shane?
St. Jimmy
03-11-2008, 03:17 PM
:rofl:
OK, FINE....
Triple H, Vince, Undertaker, Cena, Michaels, Shane, Linda, Stephanie, Aurora Rose and Shane's kids. BUT ASIDE FROM THOSE!
KingofOldSchool
03-11-2008, 03:25 PM
OK, FINE....
Triple H, Vince, Undertaker, Cena, Michaels, Shane, Linda, Stephanie, Aurora Rose and Shane's kids. BUT ASIDE FROM THOSE!
BREAKING NEWS: Stephanie McMahon's unborn baby has been suspended for violating the Wellness Policy. The baby will now be suspended from being born for 30 days.
Jeritron
03-11-2008, 03:30 PM
Ummm Randy Orton's been suspended under the Wellness Policy before.
I'm speaking of him in a situation where he's WWE champion 20 days before Wrestlemania's main event. I don't think the punishment would be as sudden and/or harsh for someone in Orton's position, no matter who it was. I think they would protect the interests of their PPV by using a little more leeway in the punishment. They'd be punished to protect their own ass in the wellness contreversy, but I don't think this way.
Good Ol JG
03-11-2008, 03:33 PM
This sucks from the fan's standpoint. You have a guy the fans love and want to see pushed, WWE finally starts listening and giving him a push, then he goes and does something stupid like this and ruins his chances for good. It's no wonder only 4 or 5 guys consistently main event in WWE, every time someone the fans want to see on top gets the chance they go and fuck it up for everybody. I blame guys like RVD and Hardy for this bullshit. They fuck up, so it makes the company become reluctant. Fuck this guy. He's had chance after fuckin chance, push after push. I don't give a fuck what his deal is, you either wanna be in the business or you don't, it's that simple. If you don't want it, get the hell out. Go do motocross in your back yard or make more shitty music with your shitty band and stay the fuck away from wrestling. Stop insulting your fans and fuckin over the company who has given you all these chances. Here's something for Jeff to look at - Jake Roberts, Scott Hall, Ron Simmons, X-Pac - all in rehab right now. They cut their careers short because they wouldn't get a hold of their shit. In 10 years we'll see Jeff Hardy as another one of these guys, or maybe even a guy like Curt Hennig, Eddie Guerrero, or Hawk. If that's what he wants, good fuckin riddance. As much as I like Jeff's work, I never want to see him get a push again. He doesn't deserve it.
Jeritron
03-11-2008, 03:35 PM
It sucks, but I can't really feel bad for him. I feel for the situation, but it's nobody's fault but his. I mean that's just plain fuckin stupid
Jeritron
03-11-2008, 03:46 PM
It should also be noted that the writing's on the wall that he's clearly in significant hot water here, for obvious reasons. Manily timing.
If the WWE had any interest or plans on continuing his push in any way shape or form he would have been injured or sidelined in kayfabe to explain his absence, rather than simply removing him from the card and announcing his suspension on the site after having him lose his title cleanly.
It's clearly the end of the road for Jeff Hardy.
It's also interesting that one of the most over and untapped stars may now be on his way out. Not that TNA would even utilize him in any meaningful way, but he can head there with the same name.
RVDmark
03-11-2008, 04:16 PM
Last night when he lost the IC title I figured it was either getting him ready for the MITB win or, well, missing the house shows was bad.
Seriously, people said he should have been main eventing this year. Had this happened they would have been seriously fucked. I'm glad it happened, proves that he has no business in the main event and will never be there again, the fucking idiot.
I guess I was right when I said he was an irresponsible moron.
I agree that its not good for him, however if he was main eventing, would he be protected like Vince, HHH, Cena?
I hate that you call him a moron for getting caught (and I do I agree to a point), but its annoying knowing that Cena, HHH and Vince are protected, and they don't even hide it. Personally I have no problem with wrestlers taking performance enhancing drugs, if THEY so choose they want to. But for WWE to turn the wellness pollicy into a PR stunt to protect them from a congressional hearing, and then blatently protect their top stars who are obviously using these drugs is just unfair on the unprotected wrestlers and us, the fans.
Jeff is stupid for getting caught, but the WWE is much worse for what they are doing. His 60 day suspension removes him from wrestlemania, and has just lost them my Wrestlemania money (short of something big happening in the next few weeks). The match I was most looking forward to has just lost its main competitor for no good reason. Sure, I like Jericho, but Jeff was there because the fans wanted him there, Jericho will be there because WWE wants him there in a hurry.
In all reality, we don't know if Triple H, for instance, has legal prescriptions for steroids and that's why he's never and likely never will fail.
I agree that protecting anyone is bad, but not protecting anyone is worse. Let's face it, if Cena, for instance, had a pain killer problem, WWE would need to do something. I think Kurt Angle is proof that while WWE does protect its higher performers, there are limits that even they won't cross.
It all comes down to that Jeff has a history of bad business - the former failed drug test, missing shows etc - and that's why they needed to do something. Anyone else would have been dealt with after WrestleMania, I have no doubt.
wow what a dumb fuck this guy is.
Skippord
03-11-2008, 04:34 PM
Jeff you retard
Kane Knight
03-11-2008, 04:41 PM
If WWE were smart, they'd stop pushing this guy. Fool me once, shame on you...Fool me ten times....
Gerard
03-11-2008, 04:42 PM
"he doesn't take the hard stuff"
With Jbl on raw sharing the locker-room and shower facilites thats debatable :shifty:
St. Jimmy
03-11-2008, 04:52 PM
This sucks from the fan's standpoint.
No, it sucks from a Marks standpoint.
Kane Knight
03-11-2008, 04:54 PM
With Jbl on raw sharing the locker-room and shower facilites thats debatable :shifty:
That's one contact high I'd rather not think about.
Suicidal Icon
03-11-2008, 04:58 PM
Another example of the WWE lifestyle causing Wrestlers to continue to take some form of drug.
Innovator
03-11-2008, 05:54 PM
I hate that you call him a moron for getting caught (and I do I agree to a point), but its annoying knowing that Cena, HHH and Vince are protected, and they don't even hide it. Personally I have no problem with wrestlers taking performance enhancing drugs, if THEY so choose they want to. But for WWE to turn the wellness pollicy into a PR stunt to protect them from a congressional hearing, and then blatently protect their top stars who are obviously using these drugs is just unfair on the unprotected wrestlers and us, the fans.
Jeff wasn't caught using performance enhancers. Recreational drugs
Innovator
03-11-2008, 05:58 PM
I was gonna main event
but then I got high
I was gonna win Money in the Bank
but then I got high
la dada da
Now I'm jobbing to D.H Smith, and I know why
cause I got high, cause I got high, cause I got hiiiiigh
Halbowsky
03-11-2008, 06:03 PM
wwe.com just annoucned Punk vs Big daddy V for a MITB spot. So it looks like Punk will be taking Jeff's spot in MITB instead of fighting for the ECW title
Skippord
03-11-2008, 06:09 PM
Big Daddy V in MiTB would be awesome though
It'd be hilarious if BDV won.
Disturbed316
03-11-2008, 06:19 PM
WHY JEFF WHY :'(
Anyway, when was his first violation? They kept that one quiet.
It was just before SummerSlam. I think he was suspended for a month.
Kane Knight
03-11-2008, 07:18 PM
WHY JEFF WHY :'(
Anyway, when was his first violation? They kept that one quiet.
If it was before like November First, that's why they didn't say anything. Prior to that date, they were not releasing the names of suspended wrestlers.
This is pretty big. It's almost as bad as Austin getting put on the shelf prior to WM 13. Although I guess Hardy isn't as hot as Austin was back then. It's still a pretty shit situation. :(
ron the dial
03-11-2008, 07:24 PM
lollllllllll jeff hardy come on man
Azriel
03-11-2008, 07:28 PM
This sucks big time, but Jeff brought it on himself.
No, substance abuse, read the headlines seriously
IC Champion
03-11-2008, 07:39 PM
Shadow just had a stoke.
Doubt Shadow heard about it, didn't he hole himself up in his house with Smash Bros Brawl
ron the dial
03-11-2008, 07:41 PM
it's a conspircy
Gerard
03-11-2008, 08:19 PM
Video of hardys push ending.
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Londoner
03-11-2008, 08:28 PM
This is just like the situation RVD found himself in, pathetic really.
Pudding Taine
03-11-2008, 09:43 PM
Dumbass Hardy.
:yes:
Jeritron
03-11-2008, 11:53 PM
Just read this on Wrestlezone supposedly from Matt Hardy's official myspace:
"I know two people of different genders who are in a dilemma at this time. One of these individuals I am extremely close with-the other one I used to be. The thing that worries me is that they're both playing around in the deep water and can't swim. I can swim."
I assume he's referring to Jeff and Lita. damn.
ron the dial
03-12-2008, 12:20 AM
whoa whoa whoa weapon x jordan x sharky x
whoa
Innovator
03-12-2008, 12:25 AM
Triple X?
ron the dial
03-12-2008, 12:26 AM
xavier xochimilco xander
Shadow
03-12-2008, 12:48 AM
...excuse me. I have to go commit mass murder.
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU THINKING YOU MONKEY FUCKING IDIOT!?
Shadow
03-12-2008, 12:50 AM
Oh and for those of you wondering where the fuck I was and why I hadn't heard about this until now...
I do have to go work you know. Can't spend all day posting on this site.
ddpBANG
03-12-2008, 01:19 AM
Just read this on Wrestlezone supposedly from Matt Hardy's official myspace:
"I know two people of different genders who are in a dilemma at this time. One of these individuals I am extremely close with-the other one I used to be. The thing that worries me is that they're both playing around in the deep water and can't swim. I can swim."
I assume he's referring to Jeff and Lita. damn.
Nah, Jeff and Ashley.
Mr. Nerfect
03-12-2008, 01:44 AM
Jeff is pretty fucking stupid, can we all agree? The man is a loose cannon, and cannot really be banked on. When he returns, I'd keep him as a mid-card guy to job to some other guys. Maybe have him as a lackey to older brother.
Matt has always been the better Hardy, and I think it is about time he got his due.
FourFifty
03-12-2008, 03:56 AM
Fucking Hell! I've been calling for weeks that Hardy is going to win the MITB. I've sucked balls with the tipsters and I needed that free point!
Mr. Nerfect
03-12-2008, 05:16 AM
Fucking Hell! I've been calling for weeks that Hardy is going to win the MITB. I've sucked balls with the tipsters and I needed that free point!
Just change it to MVP and you'll be right.
El Fangel
03-12-2008, 06:02 AM
Fucking Hell! I've been calling for weeks that Hardy is going to win the MITB. I've sucked balls with the tipsters and I needed that free point!
Im procrastinating adding those all up again.
Volare
03-12-2008, 06:33 AM
winner of the MITB is that one guy who held that one title in the last 5 yrs
KingofOldSchool
03-12-2008, 07:30 AM
This is just like the situation RVD found himself in, pathetic really.
How so?
RVD was caught with weed by cops.
Hardy was found with something other than weed in his system and not by the police.
Kane Knight
03-12-2008, 07:46 AM
How so?
RVD was caught with weed by cops.
Hardy was found with something other than weed in his system and not by the police.
RVD was caught with more than just weed.
winner of the MITB is that one guy who held that one title in the last 5 yrs
if he wins does he go to smack down? imagine feuds with edge, taker, mvp, rey (when he's back), punk...
whoa whoa whoa weapon x jordan x sharky x
whoa
Well clearly the list goes as follows...
1. Jordan X
2. Weapon X
10,0003,00000200,03000002,0000300002000. sharky x
Lord-Of-Darkness
03-12-2008, 05:02 PM
Jericho got Punk'd.
(ie: Only winning a title due to a Wellness violation)
Wouldn't that make him 'Morrison'd' :roll:
Dorkchop
03-12-2008, 11:40 PM
Lots of wrestlers have received belts for situations like this. Didn't Punk win the belt because Morrison violated the wellness policy? I'm sure he would have won the belt at some point, but his and Morrison's title victories are due to circumstances like these.
Jericho is a good go-to-guy. They need someone to hold the belt so they give it to Jericho. They'll probably make him drop it to Carlito in a couple of months.
Dorkchop
03-12-2008, 11:44 PM
Also, Jeff Hardy is fucking stupid. He's getting the push of his life (a push guys would only dream of) and he does something stupid like this. I don't know have any information on this, so maybe Jeff's violation is somewhat justifiable... knowing his past history with drugs, and what he puts his body through this isn't surprising in the least.
I really wish he'd tone it down a lot. He doesn't need to do all those high risk moves all the time. He can use unique moves that aren't going to kill him and people would still love him.
Mr. JL
03-13-2008, 12:02 AM
Well, he's only been back with the company for a year and a half and he's had more high risk gimmick matches than probablly anyone on the roster in that time.
Ladder Match with Nitro
4 Way Ladder Match at Armageddon
Steel Cage Match with Nitro
Money in the Bank Ladder Match
Tag Team Ladder Match at One Night Stand
Ladder Match with Carlito
Steel Cage Match with Umaga
Elimination Chamber Match
Not too mention some crazy spots in between like the 30 foot Swanton Bomb off the Scaffolding shit a month ago. Then take into account that he usually has the longest, most athletic matches on RAW each and every week. Plus house shows and touring... it really cannot be all that surprizing.
That just further proves that spot monkeys are a waste of space.
Mr. JL
03-13-2008, 01:24 AM
Tell that to all the money Hardy's made for the WWE.
Kane Knight
03-13-2008, 09:05 AM
Also, Jeff Hardy is fucking stupid. He's getting the push of his life (a push guys would only dream of) and he does something stupid like this. I don't know have any information on this, so maybe Jeff's violation is somewhat justifiable... knowing his past history with drugs, and what he puts his body through this isn't surprising in the least.
I really wish he'd tone it down a lot. He doesn't need to do all those high risk moves all the time. He can use unique moves that aren't going to kill him and people would still love him.
Jeff Hardy probably doesn't think he actually did anything wrong. Look at RVD. I mean, not only is he talking about how he was suspended for Pot (as opposed to the fifteen other drugs in his car), he doesn't see anything wrong with what he did. This is called stoner logic, and it only makes sense to people who are currently mentally impaired.
Which probably also explains why he keeps destroying his body.
Tell that to all the money Hardy's made for the WWE.
I'll tell it to him when he's sitting in his hospital bed because he burnt himself out and destroyed his body in one year more than he's ever destroyed his body in his entire career. If he wasn't a spot monkey he would have a longer shelf life.
RVDmark
03-13-2008, 11:27 AM
So Randy Orton gets caught twice by the wellness policy, shits in someones bag, wrecks a Hotel room and gets himself sent home from a European tour. And it gets swept under the carpet. Hardy gets caught in the run up to Wrestlemania, and they still suspend him.
And don't start on about how Hardy no-shows. As far as am aware he hasn't no-showed since returning to the WWE therefore he has served his punishment (ie being fired) for that so it should be excluded from this arguement.
I fail to see why anyone wants to join WWE anymore. Vince makes a shitload of money off of their destroying themselves, and WWE's gratitude is to piss all over their guys at any opportunity (unless you are fucking the bosses daughter).
All that and Vince never takes any time off to spend and enjoy that money he has made, what a f**king waste.
Kane Knight
03-13-2008, 11:48 AM
So Randy Orton gets caught twice by the wellness policy, shits in someones bag, wrecks a Hotel room and gets himself sent home from a European tour. And it gets swept under the carpet. Hardy gets caught in the run up to Wrestlemania, and they still suspend him.
Well, that was a nice, long series of lies there. If you're going to make dishonest comparisons, you need to be much smoother than that.
And don't start on about how Hardy no-shows. As far as am aware he hasn't no-showed since returning to the WWE therefore he has served his punishment (ie being fired) for that so it should be excluded from this arguement.
What idiotic reasoning.
And if you're not too busy with self-serving reasoning, this is Jeff's second violation.
I fail to see why anyone wants to join WWE anymore. Vince makes a shitload of money off of their destroying themselves, and WWE's gratitude is to piss all over their guys at any opportunity (unless you are fucking the bosses daughter).
Yeah, why would anyone want to join a company that would continue to re-hire and re-push idiots like Jeff Hardy who always blow it, pay them good money (Especially compared to the indies), and push guys to the moon if they didn't fuck up?
Vince didn't screw Jeff, Jeff screwed Jeff.
All that and Vince never takes any time off to spend and enjoy that money he has made, what a f**king waste.
Irrelevant.
jcmoorehead
03-13-2008, 12:16 PM
So Randy Orton gets caught twice by the wellness policy, shits in someones bag, wrecks a Hotel room and gets himself sent home from a European tour. And it gets swept under the carpet. Hardy gets caught in the run up to Wrestlemania, and they still suspend him.
Yes Orton did all of that, however he also got sent on anger management courses and was also suspended for his violations. Or did you conveniently forget those details. Orton has served his punishments, Hardy should do the same.
And don't start on about how Hardy no-shows. As far as am aware he hasn't no-showed since returning to the WWE therefore he has served his punishment (ie being fired) for that so it should be excluded from this arguement.
KK already said enough for this. Him no showing shouldnt be excluded if he has started doing it again recently. His job is to show up, in a normal workplace if you keep on not showing up you're going to have action taken against you.
As much as I like Jeff Hardy and wanted to see him do well, I have to admit he fucked it up for himself. He should serve his punishment as should anyone else caught by this.
Kane Knight
03-13-2008, 12:23 PM
Yes Orton did all of that, however he also got sent on anger management courses and was also suspended for his violations. Or did you conveniently forget those details. Orton has served his punishments, Hardy should do the same.
And Hardy hasn't, as he doesn't think he has a problem. Jeff has refused treatment at least once, where Orton has not. You see, Orton really has "served his time" and Jeff, so far, has not.
Kane Knight
03-13-2008, 12:24 PM
Also, I am and have always been a fan of the Hardys. Sometimes I think Jeff is overpushed, but it's lesss because I hate him and more because I know shit like this going to happen again. And again.
that's how I felt about RVD in 2006.... I knew he was going to fuck it up
although I never really liked rob van kick but Cena would've been eaten alive if he won at ONS.
I was under the impression that they changed how "suspensions" worked!?
I thought they were taken off the house show circuit, were docked any pay due to them during the period that they are suspended BUT were allowed to work on TV so as not to disrupt any on going storylines.
Did they change this? Did they ever do this in the first place? Am I going mad?
ProWrestling.com (so grain of salt...)
You would be forgiven for thinking Vince McMahon may be upset about Jeff Hardy's inability (once again) to follow the company's drug policy, but that apparently is not the case.
One source has claimed that McMahon has been waiting for an incident like this to happen and that suspension of one of the company's biggest stars puts WWE in a strong position if Congress or anyone else questions the company's drug testing policy.
Hardy is now destined to mid-card status for life, another source claims, with Vince McMahon not even willing to contemplate future creative plans for the former Intercontinental Champion at this time. The same source also claims that Hardy has cost himself a Spring run with the WWE Title.
lmao
I was under the impression that they changed how "suspensions" worked!?
I thought they were taken off the house show circuit, were docked any pay due to them during the period that they are suspended BUT were allowed to work on TV so as not to disrupt any on going storylines.
Did they change this? Did they ever do this in the first place? Am I going mad?
That's only for the first suspension. I believe the second is mandatory.
Mr. JL
03-13-2008, 01:22 PM
Either way, I really don't expect Jeff to be with the WWE much longer.
Two violations of the Wellness Policy within 6 Months of one another?
Kane Knight
03-13-2008, 04:05 PM
I was under the impression that they changed how "suspensions" worked!?
I thought they were taken off the house show circuit, were docked any pay due to them during the period that they are suspended BUT were allowed to work on TV so as not to disrupt any on going storylines.
Did they change this? Did they ever do this in the first place? Am I going mad?
They changed the policy recently, but I can't remember what changes were made. However, as Xero pointed out, that was for first suspension. I think they changed it anyway, as they took flak over it.
Ruien
03-13-2008, 07:31 PM
60 days, damn Jeff is happy right about now. Just imagine....
WWE Agent: Jeff, you have been caught violating the Wellness Policy. Therefore you will be suspended for 60 days.
Jeff: So I have 60 days of not having to take any more drug test?
WWE Agent: Ummmmmm I suppose you can look at it like that.
Destor
03-14-2008, 04:28 AM
Do we know what drugs he failed for? Not gonna read all these pages.
St. Jimmy
03-14-2008, 05:09 AM
Alright, I'm not going to be a complete dick about this anymore. I feel bad for Jeff Hardy. He did finally get an opportunity to be the man and he stepped up. He was not the worse possible candidate to win the WWE Title (MVP). I was almost looking forward to the obvious Hardy/Cena - Hardy/Triple H fued. The fact that Jeff will pretty much sit in mid-card hell for the rest of his career now is completely depressing. I hope if nothing else, he learns from this as just a life lession and gets his shit together.
Also, should he quit and go to Japan/Mexico/TNA - or should he just get his mega-pops and paychecks in WWE?
Mr. JL
03-14-2008, 07:08 AM
I think if the WWE were smart they'd have him piss in a cup a week before his 60 day suspension is up.
Kane Knight
03-14-2008, 08:06 AM
Alright, I'm not going to be a complete dick about this anymore. I feel bad for Jeff Hardy. He did finally get an opportunity to be the man and he stepped up. He was not the worse possible candidate to win the WWE Title (MVP). I was almost looking forward to the obvious Hardy/Cena - Hardy/Triple H fued. The fact that Jeff will pretty much sit in mid-card hell for the rest of his career now is completely depressing. I hope if nothing else, he learns from this as just a life lession and gets his shit together.
Also, should he quit and go to Japan/Mexico/TNA - or should he just get his mega-pops and paychecks in WWE?
What's with the sympathy for Jeff Hardy? He's an adult. Nobody forced him to take drugs, and nobody forced him to be a flake. He blew the shot all by himself. Why feel bad for a guy who doesn't care enough to avoid pissing his own push away?
Vastardikai
03-15-2008, 02:00 AM
A special song, by RVD and Jeff Hardy:
Up in Smoke, that's where my career goes
in my lungs and sometimes up my nose
when injuries begin to bother me
I take a toke and all my cares go up in smoke.
Up in Smoke, that's where my career goes
because Funaki takes a leak for RKO
when wellness time begins to bother me
I take a toke and spend 60 days up in smoke!
Mr. Nerfect
03-15-2008, 03:25 AM
I'm curious to see what happens if Jeff Hardy fails again. The WWE would have to release him, and that would mean he'd be up for grabs. We'd probably see Jeff Hardy in TNA again, which would mean a lot more than it did then.
Bad Company
03-15-2008, 06:22 AM
Jeff probably couldn't even walk without roids and painkillers. I just feel sorry he was in that position.
Kane Knight
03-15-2008, 08:50 AM
I'm curious to see what happens if Jeff Hardy fails again. The WWE would have to release him, and that would mean he'd be up for grabs. We'd probably see Jeff Hardy in TNA again, which would mean a lot more than it did then.
Of course, if Congress is still looking into wrestling at that point, Jeff might find himself unable to get arrested.
Mr. JL
03-15-2008, 09:27 AM
TNA Wrestling is also now testing for drugs as well, and turning over the findings to Congress, reportedly.
So, Jeff Hardy could be shit out of luck when comes to working there as well.
Then again TNA did hire Angle & Booker, regardless of how many times they've admitted to doing drugs and/or failing drug tests.
RVDmark
03-15-2008, 09:36 AM
Well, that was a nice, long series of lies there. If you're going to make dishonest comparisons, you need to be much smoother than that.
What idiotic reasoning.
And if you're not too busy with self-serving reasoning, this is Jeff's second violation.
Yeah, why would anyone want to join a company that would continue to re-hire and re-push idiots like Jeff Hardy who always blow it, pay them good money (Especially compared to the indies), and push guys to the moon if they didn't fuck up?
Vince didn't screw Jeff, Jeff screwed Jeff.
Irrelevant.
Ok KK I trust you will now show me proof that he has no-showed since being fired last time. And in terms of wellness policy violation, do you HONESTLY think that Batista, HHH, Vince, Crena don't use steroids?
Also in my "long string of lies", prey tell, where was I lying.
Seriously KK get off that fucking high horse would you. 100,000+ posts doesn't make you the god of wrestling info. I already stated that I agree jeff is to blame, I was merely stating that a few of their top stars are blatently being protected from the wellness policy.
How about you leave the computer for a while and go out in to the real world.
Just because he hasn't no-showed since he came back doesn't mean that shouldn't be taken into consideration. The fact that he failed this test shows that he's still just as irresponsible as before.
In fact, he should have been on zero tolerance in the first place. First fuck up and he's gone. He's fucked up twice and is still employed. He's had chance after chance after chance (at least one of those chances being the no-shows) and he keeps blowing it.
Kane Knight
03-15-2008, 12:00 PM
Ok KK I trust you will now show me proof that he has no-showed since being fired last time.
Didn't say that.
And in terms of wellness policy violation, do you HONESTLY think that Batista, HHH, Vince, Crena don't use steroids?
Or that.
If you want something to argue against, can you like argue against things I actually say? I'm sure Bats and Trips and Vince and Cena all do some sort of enhancement drugs. I'm also sure they have the marginal intelligence to get a legit script. Hell, even the word "legit" is in the loosest sense.
Seriously KK get off that fucking high horse would you. 100,000+ posts doesn't make you the god of wrestling info.
Good thing I've never made that claim, then. It seems something brought up as a strawman when dumb fucks don't have any sort of legitimate argument and are severely butthurt over being called on it.
I already stated that I agree jeff is to blame, I was merely stating that a few of their top stars are blatently being protected from the wellness policy.
Doesn't make your excuses any more ridiculous or your reasoning any more flawed.
How about you leave the computer for a while and go out in to the real world.
Howabout you stop taking the internet so seriously that you need to get ridiculously worked up over it. 100K posts, and I'm still not the one getting butthurt and making personal attacks to justify my own poor reasoning.
Kane Knight
03-15-2008, 12:07 PM
Just because he hasn't no-showed since he came back doesn't mean that shouldn't be taken into consideration. The fact that he failed this test shows that he's still just as irresponsible as before.
In fact, he should have been on zero tolerance in the first place. First fuck up and he's gone. He's fucked up twice and is still employed. He's had chance after chance after chance (at least one of those chances being the no-shows) and he keeps blowing it.
Xero's on the mark. You also don't get to pick and choose crimes and punishments.
Mr. Nerfect
03-15-2008, 12:12 PM
I will say that it's a shame that Triple H, John Cena and all the rest of the roiders get away with it, but Jeff Hardy should not be let go just because of that.
Mr. JL
03-15-2008, 12:20 PM
I will say that it's a shame that Triple H, John Cena and all the rest of the roiders get away with it, but Jeff Hardy should not be let go just because of that.
If Jeff Hardy's non-enhancement drug issues persist then there could be an argument made that he is going to end up the same fucked up way he was before in late 2002 and early 2003, before he was fired.
So, may as well either deal with the issue now or fire him before he becomes dependant/completely burnt out.
Mr. Nerfect
03-15-2008, 12:25 PM
Oh, it's the best thing for Hardy. You know, assuming that he seeks help.
Another Jeff Hardy return idea: Hardy comes back with Ron Simmons and/or Jake Roberts at his side. Basically they play guys that found each other in rehab, bonded over their experiences, and how drugs stopped them from being as successful as they could have been in the WWE.
They could be a heel stable, or even a face one. It also gives Jeff someone who can talk better than him. Wait, can Jake Roberts talk?
Kane Knight
03-15-2008, 04:41 PM
I will say that it's a shame that Triple H, John Cena and all the rest of the roiders get away with it, but Jeff Hardy should not be let go just because of that.
The cliché, "two wrongs do not make a right" comes to mind.
Oh, it's the best thing for Hardy. You know, assuming that he seeks help.
Which, of course, he won't. Unless, of course, he's actually forced to. Which I'd like to see done, but won't happen.
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