Jericho never needed to be put over by HHH. Yeah, he should have won more matches but was that booking or evil HHH sucking Vince's dick? I hate to break it to you, but London and Kendrick aren't good enough to carry a global wrestling promotion. They are great wrestlers, but they can't work the stick and have been given countless things to run with on SmackDown.
No, but Triple H going bitching behind Jericho's back when he returned wasn't needed, either. Also the 2002 lead-in to Triple H's title win made Jericho look ridiculous, and hurt the main event. Granted, that may not have been Triple H's fault.
As for London & Kendrick, and I never said that they should be put in a position to carry a global wrestling promotion. All I said was that on that episode of RAW where Triple H was getting beaten-down by Lance Cade, Trevor Murdoch and his main opponent at the time (shows how much his feuds capture my imagination), and London & Kendrick made the save, there was absolutely no point to him getting them to then stand there as he Pedigree'd them. NO good. None whatsoever. A completely destructive and asinine decision.
A six-man tag team match the following week, to help get the kids over, and make the tag team division look important would have been a constructive move. But Triple H is too good for that, isn't he?
As for London & Kendrick being shit on the mic, and being given lots to run with on SmackDown!? Bullshit. Kendrick is actually really good on the mic, and London is decent on his worst day. Both guys also have more raw personality than Triple H, too, in my opinion. And that's not intended as an insult at Triple H, because he's never needed a personality to get anywhere. London & Kendrick need the flash and flare just to get noticed.
When did the two ever get a chance to cut a promo as a tag team on SmackDown!. I think we heard London as Michelle McCool what happened when Ashley was attacked backstage once, and I think London & Kendrick may have each commented on a WWE tour of Mexico, or something. Apart form that, they were used to have good matches each week, and be at least on aspect of the show that was always watchable.
Randy Orton killed his own reign when he couldn't stand on his own without evolution. Any argument saying HHH didn't make Orton and Batista is a load of bullshit.
And jobbing to Triple H at Unforgiven when by all rights he should have gone over, didn't hurt Orton at all.
HBK's return in 02 was pretty shitty until the HHH feud started. He was carrying the bastardized nWo on his back in a non-wrestling role. HHH/HBK carried the WWE for 2 years and re-established HBK to a new generation of fans. It also helped propel evolution and Chris Benoit.
What are you talking about? HBK's return to the ring was all about Triple H. Anything else "shitty" you remember about it would have been as much Triple H's responsibility as HBK's.
And relief from a two year run of tyranny should not necessarily be considered a positive. Chris Benoit winning the World Heavyweight Championship was good not because Triple H was a great heel, but because we finally had someone else on top. "Hitler must have been a good person, because when the war ended, everyone was happy." Yes, that is an extreme, but scale it down and you have the same theory.
Ric Flair was a GM who ended up being a manager and pissing on his legacy. Triple H helped get Ric Flair involved in an angle that made him matter and re-established him to a new generation of fans.
I have not enjoyed Ric Flair too much since his return to the WWE. What angle is it you are referring to? Evolution? Because I remember that being pretty much the same as manager/owner Ric Flair, except he was a bad guy. I prefer owner Flair to elderly spandex-wearing wrestling Flair anyday.
Yeah, DX's return did actually entertain some people who weren't so damn high on their smarky horse. Some of the shticks were corny, but a lot of it was good and helped keep all of RAW off of Cena.
This is completely an opinion, but DX's return was pure shit. HBK was acting like he was in primary school (as opposed to high school, at least), and Triple H thought he was as great as any comedian who ever lived. They were great during their original run, but they were too comfortable and adjusted to deliver anything that was good. Certainly nothing to be considered "a lot." Wait, they did obliterate The Spirit Squad and ship them back to "OVW," which was kind of funny, but feeds my burying point. And HBK did make Mike Knox look like a joke. Not funny, and not Triple H-related, but burying-related.
Triple H is one of the best in the business. Just because he is too good to work ROH or because he can't do a 450 plancha while sucking the IWC's dick. I also believe that if it wasn't for Triple H, The Rock would have been nothing more Stone Cold's lackey. Triple H was the heel that helped solidify The Rock through 2 times in his career.
There are actually guys in ROH who are better pure wrestlers than Triple H. There are also guys who can cut better promos. There are guys that are funnier, and there are guys with, quite frankly, more charisma. Triple H is above average in all areas, and he is one of the most well-rounded guys in the business, but I still standby my statement that he is one of the most overrated guys in history. He used to be underrated overall, back in 2002/2003, when he was absolutely dreadful, but now people act as if he can do no wrong.
As for making The Rock? I personally believe that if a butterfly hadn't flapped its wings a few extra times in Eastern Europe, then Vince McMahon wouldn't have been born and there'd be no World Wrestling Entertainment, anyway. The Rock and Triple H did have some great matches together, but The Rock helped solidify Triple H more than Triple H helped solidify The Rock, in my opinion.
Obviously people don't care about Triple H, he has never been over right?
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One pop? One pop is all you have? If I were an asshole, I'd post Sylvain Grenier showing up in Montreal as a counterpoint.
Yes, that is a good pop for Triple H after a nine-month absence. I personally think that pop is overrated, and that it's not bigger than anything The Rock and Austin have gotten several times in their career, but most accept it as a massive one, so I'll count it.
You missed my point entirely, though. How many boom periods has Triple H been responsible for? None. You could argue he was a major part of the Attitude era, but that was undeniably fronted by Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock. Triple H was just the "Rowdy" Roddy Piper to Austin and Rock's Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage.
An 11-time World Champion, the man who has won more WWE World Championships than any man in history, should logically be one of the biggest draws of all-time. I'm not even sure Triple H cracks the top ten.
You like him, and that's fine. But I personally cannot get into the man, because he generally sounds like an asshole, and while he's good at his job, has never been my cup of tea and never really justified politicking himself to the levels he has.