TPWW's Favorite Wrestler: Round 1 [Archive]

Destor

04-05-2008, 07:31 AM

Alright, this is pretty self explanitory. Post Who you like better out of the match ups. In a week or so once people have stopped posting this will close and we'll move on to the next round. Like I said the brackets were decided by the votes a wrestler got in the nominations. Get to it.

1. Shawn Micheals vs Ultimo Dragon
2. Mr. Perfect vs Mickie James
3. Big Show vs Fit Finlay
4. Kurt Angle vs Ted DiBiase
5. Eddie Guerrero vs Ken Kennedy
6. Lance Storm vs Dean Malenko
7. Randy Orton vs AJ Styles
8. Chris Benoit vs Takeshi Morishima
9. Undertaker vs John Cena
10. Sting vs Brock Lesnar
11. Raven vs Vader
12. HHH vs Smaoa Joe
13. Kevin Nash vs Jake Roberts
14. Diamond Dallas Page vs. Amazing Kong
15. Scott Hall vs KENTA
16. Bret Hart vs Nigel McGuiness
17. Mic Foley vs Harley Race
18. MVP vs Arn Anderson
19. Taz vs Hulk Hogan
20. Ric Flair vs Rey Mysterio
21. The Ultimate Warrior vs Alex Shelly
22. Booker T vs Brian Pillman
23. Edge vs Jeff Hardy
24. Chris Jericho vs Sid Vicious
25. Ricky Steamboat vs Rick Rude
26. Owen Hart vs Bryan Danielson
27. Rob Van Dam vs Jushin Lyger
28. The Rock vs Trish Stratus
29. Randy Savage vs Alex Wright
30. Christian Cage vs Dusty Rhoades
31. CM Punk vs Kenta Kobashi
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin vs Tully Blanchard

Destor

04-05-2008, 07:37 AM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Fit Finlay
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Lance Storm
7. Randy Orton
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Brock Lesnar
11. Vader
12. HHH
13. Jake Roberts
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. KENTA
16. Bret Hart
17. Harley Race
18. Arn Anderson
19. Taz
20. Ric Flair
21. Alex Shelly
22. Booker T
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Rick Rude
26. Bryan Danielson
27. Jushin Lyger
28. Trish Stratus
29. Randy Savage
30. Dusty Rhoades
31. CM Punk
32. Tully Blanchard

that Warrior match was hard for the wrong reasons...

The Fugitive

04-05-2008, 08:16 AM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Fit Finlay
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Lance Storm
7. Randy Orton
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Sting
11. Raven
12. HHH
13. Kevin Nash
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. KENTA
16. Bret Hart
17. Harley Race
18. Arn Anderson
19. Taz
20. Ric Flair
21. Alex Shelley
22. Booker T
23. Jeff Hardy
24. Chris Jericho
25. Ricky Steamboat
26. Bryan Danielson
27. Jushin Lyger
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Christian Cage
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

Blue Demon

04-05-2008, 09:05 AM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Fit Finlay
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Dean Malenko
7. Randy Orton
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Brock Lesnar
11. Raven
12. HHH
13. Jake Roberts
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall
16. Bret Hart
17. Harley Race
18. Arn Anderson
19. Taz
20. Ric Flair
21. The Ultimate Warrior
22. Brian Pillman
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Ricky Steamboat
26. Owen Hart
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Christian Cage
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

Londoner

04-05-2008, 10:00 AM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Big Show
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Lance Storm
7. Randy Orton
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Brock Lesnar
11. Raven
12. HHH
13. Kevin Nash
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall(havent seen much of kenta)
16. Bret Hart
17. Mic Foley
18. MVP
19. Taz
20. Ric Flair
21. Alex Shelly
22. Booker T
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Ricky Steamboat
26. Owen Hart
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Christian Cage
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

What Would Kevin Do?

04-05-2008, 10:05 AM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Fit Finlay
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Dean Malenko
7. Randy Orton
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Brock Lesnar
11. Vader
12. HHH
13. Kevin Nash
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. KENTA
16. Nigel McGuiness
17. Mic Foley
18. MVP
19. Taz
20. Ric Flair
21. Alex Shelly
22. Brian Pillman
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Rick Rude
26. Bryan Danielson
27. Jushin Lyger
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Christian Cage
31. Kenta Kobashi
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

04-05-2008, 10:06 AM

1. Shawn Micheals vs Ultimo Dragon--hbk
2. Mr. Perfect vs Mickie James--hennig
3. Big Show vs Fit Finlay--show
4. Kurt Angle vs Ted DiBiase--angle
5. Eddie Guerrero vs Ken Kennedy--eddie
6. Lance Storm vs Dean Malenko--malenko
7. Randy Orton vs AJ Styles--aj
8. Chris Benoit vs Takeshi Morishima--benoit
9. Undertaker vs John Cena--cena
10. Sting vs Brock Lesnar--sting
11. Raven vs Vader--raven
12. HHH vs Smaoa Joe--joe
13. Kevin Nash vs Jake Roberts--roberts
14. Diamond Dallas Page vs. Amazing Kong--ddp
15. Scott Hall vs KENTA--hall
16. Bret Hart vs Nigel McGuiness--bret
17. Mic Foley vs Harley Race--foley
18. MVP vs Arn Anderson--double a
19. Taz vs Hulk Hogan--taz...god i'd love to see taz cripple him lol
20. Ric Flair vs Rey Mysterio--flair
21. The Ultimate Warrior vs Alex Shelly--alex
22. Booker T vs Brian Pillman--book
23. Edge vs Jeff Hardy--hardy
24. Chris Jericho vs Sid Vicious--y2j
25. Ricky Steamboat vs Rick Rude--steamboat
26. Owen Hart vs Bryan Danielson--owen
27. Rob Van Dam vs Jushin Lyger--rvd
28. The Rock vs Trish Stratus--rock
29. Randy Savage vs Alex Wright--macho
30. Christian Cage vs Dusty Rhoades--dusty
31. CM Punk vs Kenta Kobashi--punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin vs Tully Blanchard--austin

Lock Jaw

04-05-2008, 01:00 PM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Big Show
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Lance Storm
7. AJ Styles
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Sting
11. Vader
12. HHH
13. Kevin Nash
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall
16. Bret Hart
17. Mic Foley
18. Arn Anderson
19. Hulk Hogan
20. Ric Flair
21. Alex Shelly
22. Booker T
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Ricky Steamboat
26. Owen Hart
27. Jushin Lyger
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Christian Cage
31. CM Punk
32. Tully Blanchard

Jeritron

04-05-2008, 02:08 PM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Big Show
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Lance Storm
7. Randy Orton
8. Takeshi Morishima
9. Undertaker
10. Brock Lesnar
11. Raven
12. HHH
13. Jake Roberts
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. KENTA
16. Bret Hart
17. Mic Foley
18. Arn Anderson
19. Taz
20. Ric Flair
21. Alex Shelly
22. Booker T
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Ricky Steamboat
26. Owen Hart
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Christian Cage (Only because I never liked Dusty)
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

HeartBreakMan2k

04-05-2008, 02:14 PM

1. Shawn Micheals vs Ultimo Dragon
2. Mr. Perfect vs Mickie James
3. Big Show vs Fit Finlay
4. Kurt Angle vs Ted DiBiase
5. Eddie Guerrero vs Ken Kennedy
6. Lance Storm vs Dean Malenko
7. Randy Orton vs AJ Styles
8. Chris Benoit vs Takeshi Morishima
9. Undertaker vs John Cena
10. Sting vs Brock Lesnar
11. Raven vs Vader
12. HHH vs Smaoa Joe
13. Kevin Nash vs Jake Roberts
14. Diamond Dallas Page vs. Amazing Kong
15. Scott Hall vs KENTA
16. Bret Hart vs Nigel McGuiness
17. Mic Foley vs Harley Race
18. MVP vs Arn Anderson
19. Taz vs Hulk Hogan
20. Ric Flair vs Rey Mysterio
21. The Ultimate Warrior vs Alex Shelly
22. Booker T vs Brian Pillman
23. Edge vs Jeff Hardy
24. Chris Jericho vs Sid Vicious
25. Ricky Steamboat vs Rick Rude
26. Owen Hart vs Bryan Danielson
27. Rob Van Dam vs Jushin Lyger
28. The Rock vs Trish Stratus
29. Randy Savage vs Alex Wright
30. Christian Cage vs Dusty Rhoades
31. CM Punk vs Kenta Kobashi
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin vs Tully Blanchard

NoJabbaNoBogRoll

04-05-2008, 02:26 PM

weather vane

04-05-2008, 02:30 PM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Big Show
4. Ted DiBiase
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Dean Malenko
7. AJ Styles
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Sting
11. Raven
12. HHH
13. Jake Roberts
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall
16. Bret Hart
17. Mic Foley
18. Arn Anderson
19. Hulk Hogan
20. Ric Flair
21. The Ultimate Warrior
22. Brian Pillman
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Rick Rude
26. Owen Hart
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Dusty Rhoades
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

Afterlife

04-05-2008, 03:10 PM

1. Ultimo Dragon
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Big Show
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Lance Storm
7. AJ Styles
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Sting
11. Vader
12. HHH
13. Jake Roberts
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall
16. Nigel McGuiness
17. Mic Foley
18. Arn Anderson
19. Taz
20. Rey Mysterio
21. Alex Shelly
22. Brian Pillman
23. Jeff Hardy
24. Chris Jericho
25. Ricky Steamboat
26. Owen Hart
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Alex Wright
30. Christian Cage
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

thedamndest

04-05-2008, 03:22 PM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Big Show
4. Ted DiBiase
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Lance Storm
7. Randy Orton
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Sting
11. Vader
12. HHH
13. Kevin Nash
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall
16. Bret Hart
17. Harley Race
18. Arn Anderson
19. Taz
20. Ric Flair
21. Alex Shelly
22. Booker T
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Rick Rude
26. Owen Hart
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Dusty Rhoades
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

The Optimist

04-05-2008, 05:03 PM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Big Show
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Dean Malenko
7. AJ Styles
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Sting
11. Raven
12. Triple H
13. Kevin Nash
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall
16. Bret Hart
17. Mic Foley
18. Arn Anderson
19. Taz
20. Ric Flair
21. Ultimate Warrior
22. Booker T
23. Jeff Hardy
24. Jericho
25. Steamboat
26. Owen Hart
27. Jushin Thunder Liger hardest decision on the list
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Dusty Rhodes
31. Kenta Kobashi
32. Steve Austin

I'm suprised Amazing Kong got on the list and Roddy Piper didn't.

ddpBANG

04-05-2008, 05:17 PM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Big Show
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Dean Malenko
7. Randy Orton
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Brock Lesnar
11. Raven
12. HHH
13. Kevin Nash
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall
16. Bret Hart
17. Harley Race
18. MVP
19. Taz
20. Ric Flair
21. Alex Shelly
22. Brian Pillman
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Rick Rude
26. Owen Hart
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Christian Cage
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

Good Ol JG

04-05-2008, 06:27 PM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Big Show
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Lance Storm
7. AJ Styles
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Brock Lesnar
11. Raven
12. Samoa Joe
13. Jake Roberts
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall
16. Bret Hart
17. Mick Foley
18. Arn Anderson
19. Taz
20. Ric Flair
21. Alex Shelley
22. Brian Pillman
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Rick Rude
26. Owen Hart
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Christian Cage
31. CM Punk
32. Tully Blanchard (had to give Tully a vote)

Porcupine

04-05-2008, 07:49 PM

1. Shawn Micheals
- Didnt see enough of Ultimo, didnt see enough Charisma in him. Shawn is shawn.
2. Mr. Perfect
- Easy one here.
3. Big Show
- Like Big Show better as a total package.
4. Kurt Angle
- Angle is one of my top three or so.
5. Eddie Guerrero
- Another easy one.
6. Lance Storm
- Urgh. Two guys I'm really a fan of, but gotta go with Storm by just a little bit.
7. Randy Orton
- Two dicks. I choose the one that I watched/like more.
8. Takeshi Morishima
- Morishima is awesome for his size.
9. Undertaker
- Undertaker is another one of my top favs of all time.
10. Sting
- Sting did much more than Brock ever did. His work with Flair alone cements him here.
11. Raven
- Tough one. Will have to go with Raven for his promos.
12. HHH
- Small Joe! All kidding aside, HHH is more dimensional than Joe.
13. Kevin Nash
- Come on. Its Nash.
14. Diamond Dallas Page
- Was always a fan of DDP.
15. Scott Hall
- Did not see enough of KENTA.
16. Bret Hart
- Hart. Too many classic moments.
17. Mick Foley
- Foley. Another one of my top favs.
18. MVP
- MVP by just a notch...hope his potential turns out to be what it looks like.
19. Taz
- Giving the vote to Taz here because his ECW run is probably one of the best wrestling "pieces" of all time.
20. Ric Flair
- Flair is more dimensional. Rey lacks in Charisma area and isnt a good heel.
21. The Ultimate Warrior
- Squash!
22. Booker T
- Argh. Hate to vote against Pillman, but had more exposure to Booker and loved him all around.
23. Edge
- Jeff is not as good on the mic and screws it up for himself too much. Sorry Jeff.
24. Sid Vicious
- Because he has HALF THE BRAIN YOU DO!
25. Rick Rude
- A wrestler like Rick only comes once in a lifetime.
26. Owen Hart
- Owen. Bryan has yet to show me anything but awesome in ring skills. I like charisma too.
27. Rob Van Dam
- RVD. If only he didnt smoke pot so much.
28. The Rock
- Why are awesome women being pitted against legends? Sorry Trish.
29. Randy Savage
- OOH NO! His Rap album alone provided me with much entertainment. Poor Das Wunderkind.
30. Christian Cage
- Christian. Dusty never really impressed me. Maybe its because I mostly saw his crappy WWF run.
31. Kenta Kobashi
- Hard one, but I will go with Kenta.
32.Tully Blanchard
- Sympathy vote for Tully, once again because I only liked Austin as a heel. Hated, hated him as a face much like people dislike Cena in recent times.

CSL

04-05-2008, 11:20 PM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Fit Finlay
4. Ted DiBiase
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Dean Malenko
7. AJ Styles
8. Chris Benoit
9. John Cena
10. Sting
11. Vader
12. HHH
13. Jake Roberts
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall
16. Bret Hart
17. Mic Foley
18. Arn Anderson
19. Hulk Hogan
20. Ric Flair
21. Alex Shelly
22. Brian Pillman
23. Jeff Hardy
24. Chris Jericho
25. Rick Rude
26. Owen Hart
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Christian Cage
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

KENTA/Hall, Malenko/Storm and Angle/DiBiase were just mean

Destor

04-05-2008, 11:24 PM

Well to be fair I didn't make the brakets, you all did. This was done by seeding based on who got the most votes in the nominations. for example HBK got the most votes, because of this he got the person with the least votes (or one of them anyway) Ultimo Dragon.

while I'm on the subject does anyone think I should continue this as a tournement, meaning these are the brackets and the wil face the winner of the match below them, or should I keep seeding? Meaning who ever gets the most votes would vate the guy who got the least?

Dunno.

Jeritron

04-05-2008, 11:27 PM

Sounds about right. You've done it for one round so you should just keep it that way until it gets narrowed down to 2 I suppose. Then obviously the poll vote would decide...or, just a thought, once it gets down to 4 you could have a poll with 4 choices which would make things interesting, since it wouldn't be a choice between A and B

CSL

04-05-2008, 11:34 PM

I would randomize.

Also, how the hell did Big Show get seeded 3rd? Some people must really hate Floyd Mayweather

Destor

04-05-2008, 11:34 PM

Keep it which way? Seeding? I mean really this thing just started so theres no standerd set yet. Doing the seeding to decide who goes in the tournament makes sense but looking at it the top half is going to be stacked. If I went with the seeding that means the quality bouts wouldn't happen until much later. We'd get a few, but they would be more rare.

They both have their negatives...

Destor

04-05-2008, 11:36 PM

I would randomize.

Also, how the hell did Big Show get seeded 3rd? Some people must really hate Flotd Mayweather
to keep the top half of the brakect from just being insane I put the second seed at the very bottom (SCSA) and then the thrid in the fourth match, the 4th in the 28th match. Etc by 4 so that the top guys guys would be seperated from one another. It made sense to me.

Destor

04-05-2008, 11:37 PM

If anyones currious:

1.HBM 23
2.SCSA 15
3.Rock 15
4.Angle 14
5.Benoit 13
6.Jericho 13
7.HHH 13
8.Flair 12
9.Bret Hart 11
10.Perfect 11
11.Punk 10
12.Eddie 10
13.RVD 10
14.Undertaker 10
15.Edge 7
16.Kevin Nash 7
17.Taz 7
18.Foley 6
19.Big Show 5
20.Christian 5
21.Storm 5
22Owen Hart 5
23.Sting 5
24.Booker T 4
25.DDP 4
26.MVP 4
27.Orton 4
28.Savage 4
29.Raven 4
30.Steamboat 4
31.Hall 4
32.Warrior 4
33.Shelly 3
34.KENTA 3
35.Rude 3
36.Vader 3
37.Alex Wright 2
38.AJ 2
39.Arn Anderson 2
40.Kong 2
41.Pillman 2
42. Lesnar 2
43.Danielson 2
44.Malenko 2
45.Rhodes 2
46.Finlay 2
47.Race 2
48.Hogan 2
49.Jake roberts 2
50.Jeff hardy
51. Cena
52.Lyger 2
53.Kennedy 2
54.Kobashi 2
55.Mickie 2
56.McGuiness 2
57.Mysterio 2
58.Joe 2
59.Sid 2
60.Morishima 2
61.diBiase 2
62.Trish 2
63.tully 2
64. Ultimo 2

Jeritron

04-05-2008, 11:42 PM

Jeff Hardy and Cena got 2 votes each, or none?

Destor

04-05-2008, 11:43 PM

2 After you do so many it just bleeds together.

You still didn't answer my question though.

Jeritron

04-05-2008, 11:44 PM

What was that?

Jeritron

04-05-2008, 11:45 PM

Oh yea, I'd keep it seeding based on votes up until the end. Then either go with a 4 way poll or a 1 on 1 poll

Afterlife

04-05-2008, 11:45 PM

Mickie. That's so ridiculous.

Jeritron

04-05-2008, 11:45 PM

That's just my 2 cents, you can do it how you'd like. I just think since you've started that way it should continue and it seems the most fair and efficient way to do the matchups

Jeritron

04-05-2008, 11:47 PM

Mickie. That's so ridiculous.

Why? I guess I see where you're coming from but she's a woman wrestler and that makes her a wrestler. You can't judge her on the same level as Flair or HBM, just as a woman wrestler. And as that her and Trish are pretty much the best. As ludicrous as it sounds, Trish would be like the Ric Flair of Women's wrestling. Again, sounds ridiculous but it's true when you look at it logically

Destor

04-05-2008, 11:49 PM

*Megumi Kudo

Jeritron

04-05-2008, 11:54 PM

When's Trish going into the WWE hall of fame? Or when is she coming back?

Afterlife

04-05-2008, 11:55 PM

Why? I guess I see where you're coming from but she's a woman wrestler and that makes her a wrestler. You can't judge her on the same level as Flair or HBM, just as a woman wrestler. And as that her and Trish are pretty much the best. As ludicrous as it sounds, Trish would be like the Ric Flair of Women's wrestling. Again, sounds ridiculous but it's true when you look at it logically

Yes, they are in different catgories. That is why the comparrison is ridiculous.

Destor

04-05-2008, 11:57 PM

I don't think shes going to come back tbh. she's achieved all she can and anything she were to do people would just say "well she's really gone down hill," etc. she got out at the right for the sake of her legacy. As far as the HoF I'd imagine they keep her out for the next 5-10 years as I'm sure they are hoping she comes back, and once your in the HoF its pretty final.

if she's smart she'll stay out, but for my sake I hope she comes back next Monday. or any Monday. Her call.

Destor

04-06-2008, 12:00 AM

Yes, they are in different catgories. That is why the comparrison is ridiculous.
Not in my eyes, but I'm not sexist when itcomes to wrestling. (Ironically I am sexist is every other facet of life.) But don't blame me, It's not like I can put in any one person on my own. People were free to vote for who ever they thought deserved to be in. 3 of which are women.

Jeritron

04-06-2008, 12:01 AM

No. They are all wrestlers. They can't be held to the same standards as a male wrestler, but can be judged at how good they are at what they do. Thus, they can be compared for the purposes of this poll.

For example, CM Punk is obviously better than Trish Stratus if you watched their work as stick figures or something. However, Trish Stratus is the greatest of her kind. Just like The Big Show or Undertaker as big men are better than Khali or Test.

Jeritron

04-06-2008, 12:02 AM

It's hard to explain what I'm saying to you, since if you don't get it from my first explanation you prob never will. Destor knows what I'm talkin bout

Destor

04-06-2008, 12:06 AM

Oh yeah. It's that very mind set that Afterlife has that leads a large part of the IWC to hate all big men or brawlers. they judge all good wrestling on one set scale instead judging whos better at their stlye. (Not saying Afterlife does this just saying that his inability to judge women with men is the same.)

Jeritron

04-06-2008, 12:06 AM

How about this? I don't even like or watch soccer but it's the best analogy I could think of. Most male players in the World Cup or MLS or European league or whatever there is would probably school Mia Hamm or outperform her. But she's prob considered one of the greatest soccer players and biggest stars/legends/favorites of all time. Moreso than a lot of the men who would school her.

Afterlife

04-06-2008, 12:06 AM

Except that any man can go for any title, save perhaps the cruiser -- which is gone -- just because he's a man. Threre is a clear division therein, which allows men to show a broader scale of themselves. Cruiser go for heavyweight titles, giants go for US titles, and any combination imaginable can go for tag. But chicks only get the chick title. And, with the exception of "girly fights", ie. lumberjills and lingerie matches -- which is actually sexist -- they can't really show us what they've got. Saying "they're wrestlers, too" is an accurate claim; saying they have equality in career comparisson is way off.

Jeritron

04-06-2008, 12:08 AM

What are you talking about with titles? Non issue. That's a whole other thing. Chyna won a second tier title, Matt Hardy never has. Doesn't stop him from being more of a favorite round these parts

Khalis been a world champ and Piper and Hennig never have. The fuck do titles got to do with anything?

Destor

04-06-2008, 12:09 AM

Women can and have gone for and won male titles. they just don't make a habit of it.

and I think you're judging female wrestling as if the WWE image of female wrestling is the only one that exist which is really depressing.

The title logic is a bit pointless cause I'm not a mark but by that logic people who only work for weight class titles shouldn't be in this contest.

Afterlife

04-06-2008, 12:09 AM

Chyna is a man.

Indifferent Clox

04-06-2008, 12:10 AM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Big Show
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Dean Malenko
7. AJ Styles
8. Takeshi Morishima
9. Undertaker
10. Sting
11. Raven
12. HHH
13. Kevin Nash
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. KENTA
16. Nigel McGuiness
17. Harley Race
18. MVP
19. Hulk Hogan
20. Ric Flair
21. Alex Shelly
22. Brian Pillman
23. Jeff Hardy
24. Chris Jericho
25. Ricky Steamboat
26. Bryan Danielson
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Christian Cage
31. Kenta Kobashi
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

Destor

04-06-2008, 12:10 AM

Chyna is a man.
burn

Afterlife

04-06-2008, 12:11 AM

Look, I'm not trying to play the villain here. I just just think it's silly to try to compare competitors from two completely different areas.

Jeritron

04-06-2008, 12:11 AM

Actually don't know if they won world titles in AWA, I don't think so. Either way you catch my drift

Jeritron

04-06-2008, 12:14 AM

Look, I'm not trying to play the villain here. I just just think it's silly to try to compare competitors from two completely different areas.

They're not from different areas fully. They're both performers. "Favorite wrestler". Trish is a better wrestler than Khali. Fuck what titles have to do with anything. There are boundaries and different criteria, but on the broader scale of greatest performers and how good they are at their job/over with fans, you are dead wrong my friend.
Nobody denied that there was differences. You need to see the broader picture

Destor

04-06-2008, 12:20 AM

Look, I'm not trying to play the villain here. I just just think it's silly to try to compare competitors from two completely different areas.Yeah they are from different areas, but the thing about wrestling is there are A LOT of different areas. if you watch Megumi Kudo vs Mother-in-law Toyoda and say they aren't every bit as good as the men in every way then I'll be shocked. Women can go in the exact same way the men do, unfortunately the WWE has decided thats a myth and the WWE follows suit in this logic. But there have been some female wrestlers that are just leagues above a lot of men. But thats the beauty of wrestling. It's not about actual physical superiority. Saying the women can be as good as the men is the same as saying women cant be as good stunt men or actors. They can. and some are.

Destor

04-06-2008, 12:20 AM

Besides this is about who you like more, not who is technically supirior.

Afterlife

04-06-2008, 12:20 AM

Jeritron

04-06-2008, 12:23 AM

Which is why Kevin Nash has more votes than Lesnar or such. Why can't Trish have more votes than a man? By nature of the thread title, the votes can't lie

Destor

04-06-2008, 12:23 AM

I'm not talking about who wins titles. I'm saying the men -- at least in the WWE -- have an incredibly wider range in which to perform. That means they have more opportunity and more variety in their ability to win the crowd. THat also means they'll have a more storied history and a more developed character/persona with which to relate vto the crowds.

I understand the concept of favoritism, I just don't think female wreatlers have the same opportunities that males do in obtaining that popularity. In that aspect, I think it's unfair to compare them.

However, I've been wrong on a plethera of topics and occassions, so I don't expect to be surprised if everyone concurs against me.
I can agree with that. The women in the WWE don't get their fair chance to shine to the level of the men. But to me thats a testiment to how awesome the women who made this must be. Given half the opportunity and still they beat out a load of male competitors to get in this compitition.

It's pretty impressive.

Destor

04-06-2008, 12:24 AM

Except for Kong who is actually pushed like a wrestler instead of a Diva.

Afterlife

04-06-2008, 12:26 AM

Kong is also a man.

Destor

04-06-2008, 12:26 AM

good little debate here btw. :y: I can't rep either of you right now but know that I want to. :heart:

Jeritron

04-06-2008, 12:27 AM

I'm not talking about who wins titles. I'm saying the men -- at least in the WWE -- have an incredibly wider range in which to perform. That means they have more opportunity and more variety in their ability to win the crowd. THat also means they'll have a more storied history and a more developed character/persona with which to relate vto the crowds.

I understand the concept of favoritism, I just don't think female wreatlers have the same opportunities that males do in obtaining that popularity. In that aspect, I think it's unfair to compare them.

However, I've been wrong on a plethera of topics and occassions, so I don't expect to be surprised if everyone concurs against me.

Matches are matches and the ring is a ring. Time and freedom given and compettitors is what matters, and match type. The title at stake means very little. Rock and HHH matches aren't in some different artform depending on what title they are for.
If Vince gives HHH and Jericho 20 minutes in the main event for the world title it's not going to be a different match than if they're given 20 minutes in the main event for the IC title. Only in storyline.

If Big Show faced Rey for the cruiserweight title it wouldn't be some different area of performance than if it were for the US title

Destor

04-06-2008, 12:28 AM

Jerry has a valid point

Afterlife

04-06-2008, 12:29 AM

What does that have to do with what you quoted me saying?

Heros Welcome

04-06-2008, 12:29 AM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Big Show
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Lance Storm
7. AJ Styles
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Sting
11. Raven
12. HHH
13. Kevin Nash
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. KENTA
16. Nigel McGuiness
17. Mic Foley
18. MVP
19. Taz
20. Rey Mysterio
21. Alex Shelly
22. Booker T
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Ricky Steamboat
26. Owen Hart
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Christian Cage
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

Afterlife

04-06-2008, 12:29 AM

Matches are matches and the ring is a ring. Time and freedom given and compettitors is what matters, and match type. The title at stake means very little. Rock and HHH matches aren't in some different artform depending on what title they are for.
If Vince gives HHH and Jericho 20 minutes in the main event for the world title it's not going to be a different match than if they're given 20 minutes in the main event for the IC title. Only in storyline.

If Big Show faced Rey for the cruiserweight title it wouldn't be some different area of performance than if it were for the US title

But that's what I said!

Destor

04-06-2008, 12:30 AM

What does that have to do with what you quoted me saying?
This was directed at what?

Jeritron

04-06-2008, 12:31 AM

Afterlife

04-06-2008, 12:31 AM

The thing I just quoted him on.

Afterlife

04-06-2008, 12:33 AM

You say they have a wider variety to perform. You act like wrestling for different titles suddenly makes it a different activity or something.

I suppose you could say it about the hardcore title, but what else? It's not like they get booked in a program for a different title and suddenly it's like, "oh now I can try this"

Dude! I said the titles don't matter! But having 4 damn titles as opposed to one gives more guys more action. I also mentioned that there are a variety of match forms that the chicks aren't allowed to do.

Different titles lead to different matches, with different opponents and different stipulations. That is what I'm talking about. Not the "meaning" behind the belt.

Zen v.W.o.

04-06-2008, 12:34 AM

Where the hell is Piper?

1. Ultimo Dragon
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Fit Finlay
4. Ted DiBiase
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Lance Storm
7. Randy Orton
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Sting
11. Raven
12. Smaoa Joe
13. Jake Roberts
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall
16. Bret Hart
17. Mic Foley
18. Arn Anderson
19. Hulk Hogan
20. Ric Flair
21. The Ultimate Warrior
22. Brian Pillman
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Rick Rude
26. Owen Hart
27. Jushin Lyger
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Christian Cage
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

Destor

04-06-2008, 12:36 AM

Jeritron

04-06-2008, 12:37 AM

Jeritron

04-06-2008, 12:39 AM

Say theres 4 mens titles on the show and 40 men. And 1 womens belt and 10 women. What's the difference?

The men aren't trying their hand at 4 different sports

Afterlife

04-06-2008, 12:41 AM

I have to state that there are companies that have several belts for girls. From mid-card belts to cruiser belts to tag belts. There are places where the women have the opportunity to shine and be just as impactful as the men. I think your acting like the WWE is the only wrestling in existance.

I'm not acting like it, it's what I'm talking about. That's why I've been saying "in the WWE", etc. THat's the mainstream medium we have to work with here, so that's what I'm focussing on.

Jeritron

04-06-2008, 12:41 AM

I use the word sport loosely. But I mean it like, it's not like the world title is basketball and now the men can prove their athleticism by going for the IC title which is baseball. It's all the same stuff, wrestling bell to bell.

I'll give you that the womens belt isn't given the time of a men's belt, but that isn't their fault

Jeritron

04-06-2008, 12:44 AM

But Trish is still better at her job and more of a favorite than men who have won multiple titles in different divisions

Destor

04-06-2008, 12:45 AM

I'm not acting like it, it's what I'm talking about. That's why I've been saying "in the WWE", etc. THat's the mainstream medium we have to work with here, so that's what I'm focussing on.
So you admit you have this problem because you aren't "cultured" enough in the world of pro-wrestling?

Afterlife

04-06-2008, 12:47 AM

That's because theres more men. That doesn't mean the women are worse performers or not comparible in the broader spectrum of talent.

It gives guys more action, but not more levels on which to perform.

I need you to place really close attention to this.

Please.

I have not said anything about the female wrestlers being of inferior quality.

I'm saying the men have more advantage in a Favorites Contest, because they are the ones used on tv in a serious, in-depth manner. The girls are eye candy, and sometimes they put on a watchable match.

I'm not talking about the universe of pro wrestling, I'm talking about the WWE. Because the majority of that list Destor put up is WWE and the only two girls thereupon are also WWE.

Jeritron

04-06-2008, 12:49 AM

Women can apply their art in bra and panties matches and mud wrestling, are male wrestlers lesser because they haven't worked in these match types?

I'm just fuckin around, but it's not like women can't have tag matches, cage matches, hardocre matches. They have.

HTrain90

04-06-2008, 12:53 AM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Fit Finlay
4. Kurt Angle
5. Ken Kennedy
6. Dean Malenko
7. Randy Orton
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Sting
11. Vader
12. HHH
13. Kevin Nash
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall
16. Bret Hart
17. Mic Foley
18. MVP
19. Tazz
20. Ric Flair
21. Alex Shelly
22. Booker T
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Rick Rude
26. Owen Hart
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Alex Wright
30. Christian Cage
31. Kenta Kobashi
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

Destor

04-06-2008, 12:55 AM

Unfortunately men have had lingerie and bra and panties matches as well. :(

Ftr, this is a case were both parties are right.

Jeritron

04-06-2008, 12:56 AM

Okay, world of WWE only. Still. Trish and Mickie have put on matches and worked on a level that could make them favorites. They were named and voted on in here. This is a democratic contest for favorite, which makes the voting infallible.

Trish and Mickie had a fued and match far superior and well done than most of the male ones.

I also didn't know we were arguing who had more of an advantage, but rather thought we were arguing whether or not they should be involved in the contest or judged as performers in the same broad sense as the men, which is how much of a favorite and how good are they at their job.

Jeritron

04-06-2008, 12:58 AM

I mean you do remember where this started, and how it got to this point right? You're argument seems to swerve us every other post

Jeritron

04-06-2008, 01:01 AM

Mickie. That's so ridiculous.

Jeritron

04-06-2008, 01:02 AM

I will bring it all back to the Mia Hamm analogy

Afterlife

04-06-2008, 01:08 AM

I'm not swerving anything. In fact, I'm fighting the urge to pull my hair out.

The advantage I'm talking about is the exposure for popularity. Nobody's said this list was rigged. I just think it's silly. In fact, when I said "Mickie. That's ridiculous," I was actually commenting on the fact that she's anybody's favorite. That is one seriously goofy broad.

But, as I was called on being sexist, yes, I brought up the idea that male and female favorites should be judged categoically because men get a lot more exposure to the crowd than the women.

Destor

04-06-2008, 01:13 AM

But we remeber titties very well. A little bit of boob goes a long way. (Unless your Afterlife where Cody Rhodes chubby is the highlight of the night. ;) [playing bro])

What Would Kevin Do?

04-06-2008, 01:24 AM

Man, I find the idea of CM Punk beating Kenta Kobashi in anything laughable...

Afterlife

04-06-2008, 01:24 AM

But we remeber titties very well. A little bit of boob goes a long way. (Unless your Afterlife where Cody Rhodes chubby is the highlight of the night. ;) [playing bro])

That's low. He's doesn't have to be hard to get me all excited.

Afterlife

04-06-2008, 01:24 AM

Just on camera.

Mercury Bullet

04-06-2008, 01:36 AM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Big Show
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Dean Malenko
7. Randy Orton
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Sting
11. Raven
12. HHH
13. Kevin Nash
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall
16. Bret Hart
17. Mic Foley
18. Arn Anderson
19. Taz
20. Ric Flair
21. Alex Shelly
22. Brian Pillman
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Ricky Steamboat
26. Owen Hart
27. Jushin Lyger
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Christian Cage
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

Dear God some of those were tough to decide on! And thats the first freakin round! I must've sat and looked at that last one (Austin/Tully) got 10 freakin minutes. Booker T/Pillman was damn tough too.

Destor

04-06-2008, 02:13 AM

Man, I find the idea of CM Punk beating Kenta Kobashi in anything laughable...For me Punk is one of my current favorites. he's probably the guy I get most excited about seeing, with Kobashi it's like his best days are behind so I'm not as into him currently. Kobashi is a legend, but right now I favor Punk.

And Punk winning a popularity contest is pretty reasonable.

Afterlife

04-06-2008, 02:38 AM

After all, he out-popped DX. :D

Destor

04-06-2008, 02:40 AM

Afterlife

04-06-2008, 02:44 AM

I mean, he's no Cody Rhodes.... :drool:

El Fangel

04-06-2008, 04:28 AM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Big Show (That was hard)
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Dean Malenko (sorry Lance)
7. Randy Orton (Jesus Christ, I had to flip a coin
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Sting
11. Raven
12. HHH
13. Jake Roberts
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. KENTA
16. Bret Hart
17. Mic Foley
18. Arn Anderson
19. Taz
20. Ric Flair
21. Alex Shelly
22. Booker T
23. Edge (Coin Flip 2)
24. Chris Jericho (Pretty Shitty Match-Up)
25. Ricky Steamboat
26. Owen Hart
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Christian Cage
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

St. Jimmy

04-06-2008, 05:14 PM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Fit Finlay
4. Ted DiBiase
5. Ken Kennedy
6. Dean Malenko
7. Randy Orton
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Brock Lesnar
11. Raven
12. HHH
13. Kevin Nash
14. Amazing Kong
15. Scott Hall
16. Nigel McGuiness
17. Harley Race
18. Arn Anderson
19. Taz
20. Ric Flair
21. Alex Shelly
22. Brian Pillman
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Rick Rude
26. Bryan Danielson
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Dusty Rhoades
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin (This one was UNFAIR.)

What Would Kevin Do?

04-06-2008, 07:17 PM

For me Punk is one of my current favorites. he's probably the guy I get most excited about seeing, with Kobashi it's like his best days are behind so I'm not as into him currently. Kobashi is a legend, but right now I favor Punk.

And Punk winning a popularity contest is pretty reasonable.

True, but CM Punk has yet to chop cancer out of his body...

Afterlife

04-06-2008, 07:23 PM

True, but CM Punk has yet to chop cancer out of his body...

Scotty did that. Look where it got him.

Destor

04-06-2008, 07:25 PM

ROFL

I was watching Kobashi/Handa/KENTA vs Takayama/Sano/Aoki from 3/2/08 yesterday and I was just sitting back think that someone was gonna shit themselves from all the chops he was throwing.

slextremely

04-06-2008, 08:36 PM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Big Show
4. Kurt Angle
5. Ken Kennedy
6. Dean Malenko
7. Randy Orton
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Brock Lesnar
11. Raven
12. HHH
13. Jake Roberts
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall
16. Bret Hart
17. Mic Foley
18. MVP
19. Hulk Hogan
20. Ric Flair
21. The Ultimate Warrior
22. Brian Pillman
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Rick Rude
26. Owen Hart
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Christian Cage
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

What Would Kevin Do?

04-07-2008, 01:13 AM

ROFL

I was watching Kobashi/Handa/KENTA vs Takayama/Sano/Aoki from 3/2/08 yesterday and I was just sitting back think that someone was gonna shit themselves from all the chops he was throwing.

That would be Kobashi vs Sid one would think...

Dave Youell

04-07-2008, 09:42 AM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Fit Finlay
4. Ted DiBiase
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Lance Storm
7. Randy Orton
8. Takeshi Morishima
9. Undertaker
10. Sting
11. Raven
12. Smaoa Joe
13. Roberts
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. KENTA
16. Nigel McGuiness
17. Mic Foley
18. MVP
19. Taz
20. Ric Flair
21. Alex Shelly
22. Brian Pillman
23. Jeff Hardy
24. Chris Jericho
25. Ricky Steamboat
26. Owen Hart
27. Jushin Lyger
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Christian Cage
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

BigDaddyCool

04-07-2008, 02:35 PM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mickie James
3. Fit Finlay
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Lance Storm
7. AJ Styles
8. Takeshi Morishima
9. John Cena
10. Brock Lesnar
11. Raven
12. HHH
13. Kevin Nash
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall
16. Bret Hart
17. Harley Race
18. MVP
19. Taz
20. Ric Flair
21. The Ultimate Warrior
22. Booker T
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Ricky Steamboat
26. Owen Hart
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Christian Cage
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

BigDaddyCool

04-07-2008, 02:36 PM

Also, fuck you for making me decide between Vader and Raven, same goes for Kong and DDP.

Destor

04-07-2008, 02:38 PM

Vader Raven sucks...cause Vader is loosing.

What Would Kevin Do?

04-07-2008, 02:56 PM

Vader Raven sucks...cause Vader is loosing.

Upon hearing this, I would like to change my vote from Vader, to Vader + 10

Destor

04-07-2008, 03:01 PM

But you already voted for Vader...I think you're trying to trick me.

BigDaddyCool

04-07-2008, 10:10 PM

BTW, I don't know who Takeshi Morishima is. I just don't like Benoit because he boring until he killed his family.

D Mac

04-08-2008, 05:45 AM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Fit Finlay
4. Ted DiBiase
5. Ken Kennedy
6. Dean Malenko
7. Randy Orton
8. Takeshi Morishima
9. Undertaker
10. Sting
11. Vader
12. HHH
13. Kevin Nash
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall
16. Bret Hart
17. Harley Race
18. Arn Anderson
19. Hulk Hogan
20. Ric Flair
21. The Ultimate Warrior
22. Booker T
23. Edge
24. SID
25. Rick Rude
26. Owen Hart
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Dusty Rhoades
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

D Mac

04-08-2008, 05:46 AM

Sid :(

Better Than You

04-08-2008, 01:18 PM

1. Ultimo Dragon
2. Mickie James
3. Fit Finlay
4. Ted DiBiase
5. Ken Kennedy
6. Dean Malenko
7. AJ Styles
8. Takeshi Morishima
9. Undertaker
10. Brock Lesnar
11. Vader
12. Smaoa Joe
13. Jake Roberts
14. Amazing Kong
15. KENTA
16. Nigel McGuiness
17. Harley Race
18. Arn Anderson
19. Taz
20. Ric Flair
21. Alex Shelly
22. Booker T
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Rick Rude
26. Bryan Danielson
27. Jushin Lyger
28. Trish Stratus
29. Alex Wright
30. Dusty Rhoades
31. CM Punk
32. Tully Blanchard

Rooting for the underdogs.

Rammsteinmad

04-08-2008, 03:02 PM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Big Show
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Dean Malenko
7. AJ Styles
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Brock Lesnar (Man, that was tough)
11. Raven
12. HHH
13. Kevin Nash
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall
16. Bret Hart
17. Mic Foley
18. MVP
19. Taz
20. Rey Mysterio
21. Alex Shelly
22. Booker T
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Ricky Steamboat
26. Owen Hart
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Alex Wright
30. Christian Cage
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

NoRoolz

04-09-2008, 09:25 AM

1. Shawn Michaels
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Big Show
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Dean Malenko
7. AJ Styles
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Sting
11. Raven
12. HHH
13. Kevin Nash
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall
16. Bret Hart
17. Mic Foley
18. MVP
19. Taz
20. Ric Flair
21. The Ultimate Warrior
22. Brian Pillman
23. Jeff Hardy
24. Chris Jericho
25. Ricky Steamboat
26. Owen Hart
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Christian Cage
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

Y2Ant

04-11-2008, 10:35 PM

1. Shawn Michaels
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Fit Finlay
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Lance Storm
7. Randy Orton
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Sting
11. Raven
12. HHH
13. Kevin Nash
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall
16. Bret Hart
17. Mick Foley
18. MVP
19. Taz
20. Rey Mysterio
21. The Ultimate Warrior
22. Booker T
23. Jeff Hardy
24. Chris Jericho
25. Ricky Steamboat
26. Owen Hart
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Christian Cage
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

Indifferent Clox

04-12-2008, 02:37 AM

. Shawn Micheals (sorry mr. tiger mask 4)
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Fit Finlay (that was hard)
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Dean Malenko
7. AJ Styles
8. Takeshi Morishima
9. Undertaker
10. Sting
11. Raven
12. HHH
13. Kevin Nash
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. KENTA
16. Nigel McGuiness
17. Harley Race
18. MVP
19. Taz
20. Ric Flair
21. Alex Shelly
22. Brian Pillman
23. Jeff Hardy
24. Chris Jericho
25. Ricky Steamboat
26. Bryan Danielson
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Dusty Rhodes
31. Kenta Kobashi
32. Stone Cold

Kapoutman

04-12-2008, 05:07 PM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Fit Finlay
4. Ted DiBiase
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Lance Storm
7. AJ Styles
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Sting
11. Vader
12. HHH
13. Jake Roberts
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall
16. Bret Hart
17. Mic Foley
18. Arn Anderson
19. Taz
20. Ric Flair
21. The Ultimate Warrior
22. Brian Pillman
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Rick Rude
26. Owen Hart
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Christian Cage
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

Destor

04-13-2008, 03:24 PM

Gonna close this tommorrow

Destor

04-13-2008, 09:04 PM

K, just checked and I have a couple of draws after the next guy votes I'll close this if there aren't any ties.

Dorkchop

04-13-2008, 11:15 PM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Big Show
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Lance Storm
7. Randy Orton
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Sting
11. Raven
12. HHH
13. Kevin Nash
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall
16. Bret Hart
17. Mic Foley
18. MVP
19. Hulk Hogan
20. Ric Flair
21. Alex Shelly
22. Booker T
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Ricky Steamboat
26. Owen Hart
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Randy Savage
30. Christian Cage
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin

Destor

04-13-2008, 11:23 PM

CLOSED

Outsider

04-14-2008, 10:59 AM

1. Shawn Micheals
2. Mr. Perfect
3. Fit Finlay
4. Kurt Angle
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Lance Storm
7. AJ Styles
8. Chris Benoit
9. Undertaker
10. Sting
11. Raven
12. Smaoa Joe
13. Kevin Nash
14. Diamond Dallas Page
15. Scott Hall
16. Bret Hart
17. Mic Foley
18. MVP
19. Taz
20. Ric Flair
21. Alex Shelly
22. Booker T
23. Edge
24. Chris Jericho
25. Ricky Steamboat
26. Owen Hart
27. Rob Van Dam
28. The Rock
29. Alex Wright
30. Christian Cage
31. CM Punk
32. Stone Cold Steve Austin