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Jordan
04-05-2008, 01:49 PM
Well with Flair's retirement recently all kinds of people have been talking about him being in the top three of all time, or the greatest ever. It's made me think really who are the greatest wrestlers so far in the history of the business. How do you judge that? Well seeing as entertainment is subjective it's impossible. But you can take into account drawing power, money made, charisma, wrestling ability, longevity, and resilience. So with that in mind here is my list of the top 10 greatest wrestlers of all time.

Number 10 of all time:
http://ca.c.yimg.jp/sports/1183122654/img.sports.yahoo.co.jp/spnavi/photo/fight/200706/29/20070629196.jpg

Yeah he's crazy as hell now, but has there ever been a guy to rise to the top so quickly? He became a Rock, or Steve Austin in about a year, something nobody has done. You also can't deny his charisma and mic skills, one of the funniest guys ever to touch the mic. But his matches are what stick out, in the short time he was in WWE he has some of the best matches ever seen.

Number 9 of all time:
http://sportsmedia.ign.com/sports/image/article/753/753003/rowdy-roddy-piper-interview-20070103015702914-000.jpg

One of the best love to hate wrestlers ever. He was a wildman on the mic and even crazier in the ring. Unforgettable. Also on of the top heel draws of all time.

Number 8 of all time:

http://www.forgotten-ny.com/STREET%20SCENES/andrenomi/andrejake3.jpg

Andre was special to every fan he had. He was a huge draw all over the world for a long time. It's a shame the disease that killed him was what made him great. The 8th Wonder of the World.

Number 7 of all time:
http://www.criticsrant.com/Images/criticsrant_com/News%20Rants/The_Rock.jpg

What can you say about the Rock that everybody doesn't know? The most electrifying man in WWE history, an HUGE draw, it's just too bad for us that he cut his career in wrestling short to be in movies.

Number 6 of all time:

http://www.s9.com/images/portraits/1433_Austin-Steve.jpg

Steve Austin was the shit. He was obviously misused in WCW, even though his talent shone threw and allowed him to have many great matches. Of course is WWE that made him what his is and allowed him to shine. Austin in his short run possibly drew more than anybody ever, and the matches he was in were always exciting and his promos are some of the best ever. I think his career was cut way to short, and if it weren't for injuries he would still be on top today.

Number 5 of all time:
http://www.derok.net/derek3/images/classics/wwf%20bret%20hart.jpg

You may think the Hitman deserves a higher spot on the list, but I disagree. I consider Bret Hart to be the greatest pure wrestler ever. His matches were always realistic and fun. The only reason Hart isn't higher on the list is that he wasn't on top for a long time. He was a powerful draw for the WWE, but it wasn't for a long period of time. And when he showed up in WCW he prooved that without the proper backing even a wrestler that is the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be, won't stay on top if he isn't able to keep up with the times. But is run in the WWE is without a doubt one of the best ever, even if it isn't as long as the next person.

Number 4 of all time:
http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/The-Undertaker-Photograph-C12171444.jpeg

The Undertaker came into the WWE at the top and has stayed there ever since. He is one of the most popular wrestlers of all time! He also happens to have the coolest gimmick of all time, which if done by anybody else wouldn't have been nearly as successful. You can't deny a character who goes 16-0 at Wrestlemania a spot this high on the list. What make his spot even more special is that he is a bigger draw today than ever before. You also can't deny his skills, sure maybe every match isn't a classic, but the big ones, the ones that are meant to matter, they matter. And they are always memorable.

Number 3 of all time:

http://www.derok.net/derek3/images/classics/wwf%20shawn%20michaels.jpg

He was always my favorite wrestler when I was a kid, he was ALWAYS the match of the night. And guess what? 10 years later he still is. HBK has always been at the top of the ladder, and while some may think it's because of his backstage pull, and that may be true... the way he got that pull was by consistently proving himself to be the most consistently good worker in the company. Everybody knows about HBK's talent, it's obvious. He also has been a top draw in the WWE for over 13 years, and is always exciting.


Number 2 of all time:

http://velochimp.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/967c.jpg

Hogan is a controversial choice, because everybody knows he deserves a spot this high, but nobody wants him to have it. He is a dick, a selfish egomaniac. But all of that aside drew huge money consistently in his career. On top of that he has always had the biggest character on the show, be it The Immortal Hulk Hogan, or Hollywood he always made you stand on your feet. My favorite Hogan run would be in WCW when he turned heel, he was absolutely on fire and had an amazing character. The complete 180 opposite of what he had been for nearly 13 years before. Hulk Hogan was the face of wrestling for nearly 20 years.

Number 1 of all time:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/God_Optimus_Prime/WWE/Ric%20Flair/Ric_Flair_02.jpg


What can anyone say that hasn't already been said? He truly is the greatest ever, with a career spanning over thirty years and and most of those years being in the main event. He was on fire, his skills cannot be matched, both in the ring and on the microphone he was always the best part of the show. Even in his latter years he was often more motivated and talented than the younger performers on the card. If you went to a WWE house show in the last five years and saw Ric Flair, I bet you he either stole the show or came in as runner up. That's saying something for a guy his age.



So that's my top ten of all time, you can post your own if you would like or comment on mine.

Afterlife
04-05-2008, 05:13 PM
Stevie Richards. :shifty:















Ten times. :shifty:

Rob
04-05-2008, 05:51 PM
I can't put them in order...

Bret Hart
The Rock
Tito Santana
Marty Jannetty
Owen Hart
Brian Pillman
Chris Jericho
Lance Storm
Chris Benoit (before that weekend)
Steve Austin.

I actually can't believe Shawn Michaels isn't there being he was one half of my all time favourite tag team and arguably the best wrestler of the last 5 years. Oh and definately the best wrestler in the world today.

Theo Dious
04-05-2008, 06:41 PM
10. Chris Jericho
9. JBL
8. Christian
7. Kane
6. Ted DiBiase
5. Mr. Perfect
4. Kevin Nash
3. Triple H
2. Undertaker
1. Shawn Michaels

I'm going to expound on this list later, but there's a Pirate game on in like 15 minutes.

Loose Cannon
04-05-2008, 07:18 PM
First thing, I'm not counting the guys before the 1980's.

Second, my list in exactly the same as Jodan X's except

1) Austin
2) Hogan
3) Flair
4) Rock
5) Andre

everybody else just put them wherever

Loose Cannon
04-05-2008, 07:21 PM
that's not my favorite list, but since the topic stated we were doing this based on drawing power and all that, that's my list

Bad Company
04-05-2008, 07:32 PM
Today

Sting
Owen Hart
Scott Hall
Hulk Hogan
Shawn Michaels
The Rock
Ric Flair
The Undertaker
Steve Austin
Mick Foley

Vastardikai
04-06-2008, 12:36 AM
10. Bret "Hitman" Hart
9. Randy Orton
8. Ricky Morton
7. Road Warrior Hawk
6. Marty Jannetty
5. Raven
4. Jeff Hardy
3. Iron Shiek
2. Scott Hall
1. Jake "the Snake" Roberts

...

You didn't say what KIND of Top 10 it had to be.

Destor
04-06-2008, 01:47 AM
what the hell kind of top 10 is that?

weather vane
04-06-2008, 01:57 AM
To me the ten greatest of all time (not my favourite) are...

1. Ric Flair
2. Hulk Hogan
3. Shawn Michaels
4. Steve Austin
5. The Rock
6. Bret Hart
7. Gorgeous George
8. Randy Savage
9. Lou Thez
10. Triple H

El Fangel
04-06-2008, 04:43 AM
edit

El Fangel
04-06-2008, 04:59 AM
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/hulkhogan.jpg
10) Hulk Hogan - Only gets this, because he helped the WWE get off the ground in the 80's. And thats it, this guy is just fucking horrible. Mat skills suck, mic skills suck, egomaniac, only thing he has going for him is a hot daugher.




http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00367/Kurt_Angle_367488a.jpg
9) Kurt Angle - His run in WWE was unlike anything, unbelievable charisma, mic skills, wrestling skills, entertaining as hell, he deserves this spot.




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8) Bret Hart - One of the leaders of the WWE, he was the face and top wrestler in the WWE for sometime, and his matches were gold.




http://sportsmedia.ign.com/sports/image/article/775/775590/top-20-matches-in-wrestlemania-history-20070323041719097-000.jpg
7) Mick Foley - This man, has always been entertaining, funny on the mic, and always entertaining to watch, more so if you add a pinch of hardcore to the match.




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6) Triple H - Attitude era main eventer, great wrestler, great mic skills, always entertaining.





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5) The Undertaker - A huge draw, for 18 years, and cool gimmick, 16-0 at wrestlemania, and one of the most over wrestlers in the world.




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4) Shawn Micheals - I cant think Off hand of a bad match that he has been in.





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3) Steve Austin - THE Face of the attitude era, and arguably the most famous, well known, and liked wrestler in the world, need I say more?




http://www.sportsfanmagazine.com/sfm/graphics/stories/therock.jpg
2) The Rock - He has everything, and was one of a handful of huge draws that the WWE had going for them during its (In My Opinion) Golden age, the attitude era.
Unparalleled mic skills, perhaps only surpassed by...





http://wonkette.com/assets/resources/2007/11/ricflair.jpg
1) Ric Flair - If I have to say anything at all, your dumb.

#1-norm-fan
04-06-2008, 06:14 AM
10. Sting
9. Chris Jericho
8. Bret Hart
7. Curt Hennig
6. Mick Foley
5. Steve Austin
4. Ric Flair
3. Kurt Angle
2. Ricky Steamboat
1. Shawn Michaels

Rob
04-06-2008, 08:49 AM
Okay in terms of drawing power and what not (since I didn't read it :( ) Here's my list

1. Steve Austin
2. The Rock
3. Hulk Hogan
4. Undertaker
5. Ric Flair
6. Andre The Giant
7. Bret Hart
8. Shawn Michaels
9. John Cena
10. Mick Foley

Loose Cannon
04-06-2008, 09:23 AM
ooo, forgot Foley. I prob would put him 10

Jordan
04-06-2008, 12:10 PM
I took everything into consideration, and my list isn't of my favorites, but who I feel is the greatest ever.

I understand guys like Lou Thez and Gorgeous George were huge in their times, but their time compared to ours is on a much much smaller scale.

I will say this also, I hate having Kurt Angle on my list, I really don't like the guy anymore. I think he is nuts for going to TNA over WWE.

Mooияakeя™
04-06-2008, 12:11 PM
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/hulkhogan.jpg
10) Hulk Hogan - Only gets this, because he helped the WWE get off the ground in the 80's. And thats it, this guy is just fucking horrible. Mat skills suck, mic skills suck, egomaniac, only thing he has going for him is a hot daugher.


Who he is now fucking :shifty:

thedamndest
04-06-2008, 12:35 PM
10) Ted Dibiase
9) Mr. Perfect
8) Bret Hart
7) Andre The Giant
6) Undertaker
5) HBK
4) Hogan
3) Flair
2) The Rock
1) Austin

I think I'm alright with that list. Left off a couple big names and didn't really want to put Hogan there but realistically, yeah.

Indifferent Clox
04-06-2008, 02:36 PM
10. Bret "Hitman" Hart
9. Randy Orton
8. Ricky Morton
7. Road Warrior Hawk
6. Marty Jannetty
5. Raven
4. Jeff Hardy
3. Iron Shiek
2. Scott Hall
1. Jake "the Snake" Roberts

...

You didn't say what KIND of Top 10 it had to be.

list of most controversial/ addicts?

Vastardikai
04-06-2008, 03:12 PM
List of drug addicts, correct.

Rob
04-06-2008, 08:51 PM
I will say this also, I hate having Kurt Angle on my list, I really don't like the guy anymore. I think he is nuts for going to TNA over WWE.

Erm... WWE fired him. He never had a choice. It was TNA or UFC.

St. Jimmy
04-07-2008, 04:37 AM
10. Kevin Nash
9. Tully Blanchard
8. Arn Anderson
7. Ricky Steamboat
6. Harley Race
5. Dusty Rhodes
4. Steve Austin
3. Ric Flair
2. Shawn Michaels
1. Triple H.

The CyNick
04-07-2008, 02:19 PM
Tough one. I would only count guys Ive actually seen in person, not just on tape. So my list would be basically Wrestlemania era give or take a year or two.

#1. Rock -- no doubt, best ever in my view.
#2. Hogan
#3. Austin
#4. Randy Savage
#5. Ricky Steamboat
#6. HBK
#7. Bret Hart
#8. Mick Foley
#9. Ric Flair
#10. Kurt Angle

Indifferent Clox
04-07-2008, 08:39 PM
1. KENTA
2. Giant Baba
3. KENTA Kobashi
4. Takeshi Morishima
5. Omori
6. Akira
7. Yuji Nagata
8. Kensuke Sasaki
9. Great Muta
10. Jushin Thunder Liger

#BROKEN Hasney
04-07-2008, 09:04 PM
Number 10 of all time

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/umbry/072207hornswoggle3.jpg

His career is still fresh but no move has captivated audiences like that tadpole splash

Number 9 of all time
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Chuck_Palumbo.jpg/200px-Chuck_Palumbo.jpg

Would have been higher but his biker gimmick is really lame. Along with Billy Gunn, showed us that sodomy is the greatest gimmick in the world

Number 8 of all time
http://www.chem.ucalgary.ca/groups/gshimizu/images/ultimate-warrior.jpghttp://beefcakewrestling.com/eddie.gif

Yeah, couldn't choose between them. The single greatest stable of all-time, the oWn. The group that almost put WWF out of buisness because of it's ratings draw.

Number 7 of all-time
http://www.ddtdigest.com/pictures/mongo.jpg

The single greatest horseman. Enough said

Numbers 6, 5, 4 and 3 of all-time
http://www.derok.net/derek3/images/classics/wwf%20doinks.jpg

Doink, Dink, Wink and Stink really set the world on fire with their appearances. The latter 3 are what got a young Hornswoggle into wrestling

Number 2 Greatest of all time
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/loverman1307/DSC00964.jpg

The deepest, most elequent man in professional wrestling. Showed us that everybody bleeds.... So poetic.

THE NUMBER 1 FUCKING GREATEST WRESTLER OF ALL TIME
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f394/sxdx15/1206671439369.png

The man who shocked the world by appearing on iMPACT! changed the tide and viewers into TNA. Now riding a wave of success after this, people are questioning if they can hold off a resurgent WWE.... can they? CAN THEY?!?!?

Vastardikai
04-08-2008, 05:18 PM
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f394/sxdx15/1206671439369.png

I can't tell if he's bored out of his mind or if he thinks covering part of his face would actually conceal his identity...

NoRoolz
04-08-2008, 08:54 PM
A 'recent' top 10, I really can't comment on anything earlier than late 80's.

10. Mick Foley
9. Bret Hart
8. Kurt Angle
7. Triple H
6. Hulk Hogan (absolutely hate him though)
5. The Undertaker
4. The Rock
3. Shawn Michaels
2. Ric Flair
1. Stone Cold Steve Austin

thedamndest
04-08-2008, 09:45 PM
The third Doink midget was "Pink" not "Stink" and wtf, he's like 8 tops.

The Show Off
04-09-2008, 01:13 AM
This is if we are talking about the most marketable (IE most recognizable)

1. Hulk Hogan
2. Steve Austin
3. The Rock
4. Ric Flair
5. Bruno Sammartino
6. Sting
7. Goldberg
8. The Undertaker
9. Shawn Michels
10. Dusty Rhodes

Jordan
04-12-2008, 09:58 PM
This isn't the best worker, or most marketable. It's the best overall, that means everything.

nailz
04-20-2008, 05:11 PM
10. Gillberg- world class athlete
09. Jimmy Jam Garvin- great hair for wrestling
08. Giant Gonzalez- very tall which means an ass every 18 inches
07. Robocop- half man half robot
06. Curry Man- have you watched TNA lately
05. Bret Hitman Hart- takes him self as serious as the warrior
04. Ultimate Warrior- see above
03. Johnny B. Badd- homosexuality + boxing = wrestling gold
02. David Arquette- brought legitimacy back to the wcw title
01. Rock'n'Roll Buck Zumhoff- would hogan have been as big if vince was able to land buck z

Zen v.W.o.
04-20-2008, 10:27 PM
Piper is class. The best heel of all time while on top, and then one of the best faces of all time, a bit later. He is also more recognizable than anyone on the current wwe roster, not counting young kids.

Better draw too.

Mic skills are tops.

Charisma, unparalleled.

His wrestling technique wasnt great, but his matches did what they had to do. Rile the crowds up and get you into them.

For all that, he has to be top 5 easy, point blank, no matter what.

If not, it's only for his lack of longevity and constantly taking long periods off from wrestling that do him in.

http://www.wrestlingmuseum.com/images/models/roddypiper3.jpg