So TNA seems to be have a lot riding on...

[BigDaddyCool]

VMK's big break up match. While I know this isn't why people think TNA's bookers are retarded, it doesn't help.

Discuss.

[Innovator]

At least we have a 15 minute piss break

[Slow]

Well they've never feuded against each other before have they? I guess its another attempt to do something new. Which to be fair, it hasn't been done before. Unless it has, in which case, my bad

[BigDaddyCool]

They kinda split up in WWE and had a one month program with X-Pac and HHH in there as well over the rights to DX. It didn't last long because WWE knew that neither are money.

[Slow]

Well you never know, it might be a good feud with two established veterens slugging it out. I for one won't give it a chance, but i'm sure others might, and that's what really matters

[Londoner]

They've been building it up well imo, doubt the match will be any good though.

[thedamndest]

Didn't they feud before they became the Outlaws? Or at least have a couple matches as Rockabilly vs. Jesse James?

[NeanderCarl]

True.

[Fox]

Eight years too late, if you ask me.

[thedamndest]

Where were you when I asked eight years ago? Jesus.

[Fox]

BG James vs. Kip James isn't really a draw. Bad Ass Billy Gunn vs. Road Dogg would have been a decent draw in the Attitude era. Today it's just another of TNA's continuous WWE-related abortions that won't go anywhere worthwhile.

[thedamndest]

Probably because neither guy works solo, especially now that they are both old.

[Hanso Amore]

Yeah, they should be cut with Black Reign. They arent draws as a name anymore, an it makes TNA look bad to a new fan. Some random guy watching will think that TNA is full of has beens rather than being like "oh wow, whats this new stuff?"

[NeanderCarl]

Bad Ass Billy Gunn vs. Road Dogg would have been a decent draw in the Attitude era.

It wasn't.

[The Optimist]

Perhaps TNA can execute the angle better than it looks on paper.



:rofl:

[Innovator]

Dustin is slowly morphing into Dusty

[The Genius]

they had a big match as road dogg vs mr ass at the same ppv that owen died at. i think mr ass won.

[NYDon]

To be fair, this feud is the most entertaining part of TNA right now.

[Xero]

If TNA honestly has anything "riding" on these two they're in deeper shit than I could have ever imagined.

[McLegend]

I have liked the Joe/Angle build. Even though i hate the "if I lose I quit" stpulation, but overall it's been enjoyable.

[Skippord]

To be fair, this feud is the most entertaining part of TNA right now.
no, no it isnt

[The Optimist]

I have liked the Joe/Angle build. Even though i hate the "if I lose I quit" stpulation, but overall it's been enjoyable.
It's Angle vs. Joe. They'd have to include a rape angle or something to make me dislike it.

[Skippord]

they'd have to include a rape angle to make me like it

[TerranRich]

I YAWN'd

[Mr. Nerfect]

They don't really have too much riding on it, to be fair. It'd mid-card stuff. It may seem like they do, but that's because the WWE doesn't have a mid-card anymore, so we're not used to it.

To be honest, it's been done really well. Everything in it has been justified. BG James won the TNA World Tag Team Championship shot with that Feast or Fired thing, which was pretty stupid, admittedly. Then he told Kip James that he might be challenging with another partner, which was pretty stupid. Then he challenged with his father, who is awesome, but a skeleton. They lost the match, and Kip James looked to be all cool with everything, but then he snapped and attacked BG James and "Bullet" Bob Armstrong.

Then, I believe, we got these "Rough Cuts," which are pretty much short intercut videos of the guys going about their everyday lives, talking about their issues with the other, and this is where things have picked up. Kip has been calling BG "Brian," I believe, which shows how close they are, and disrespect for the stage name BG carries.

Kip has been saying that he wants to punch Brian in the face and knock him out, and when he gets up he wants to kick him in the face and send him to hospital. Then, when he gets out of hospital, he wants to punch him in the face again. Kip is pissed because he felt they had a sure-fire thing in the TNA World Tag Team Championship, and BG James threw it away because he wanted a moment with his decrepit dad.

BG James is pissed off because Kip brought his dad into this. He says he welcomes Kip James to kick his ass, but don't bring his dad into this, and don't insult his mother, becaue then shit gets personal. BG holds faith that the "brothers" need to fight it out so they can go back to being a team, and until they do they won't have things sorted, whereas Kip says he wants nothing to do with BG ever again.

It's all really human stuff. BG James doesn't hold much spite out of it, and is keeping an open mind; Kip is being more of an asshole and just wanting to kick BG's ass and move on with his life.

I'm almost sort of looking forward to the match. If there was a lot of good stuff around it (and at Lockdown there will be), it might not actually be that bad to watch. You know, assuming that BG James has been using his Rough Cuts time to train, and get into further ring shape. I was a Billy Gunn mark back in the day, so Kip James has the potential to entertain me if he's not being shit.

I can understand why people might dismiss this, seeing as The Voodoo Kin Mafia have been lame as fuck, but it's really not a bad storyline.

[NeanderCarl]

To be honest, it's been done really well.

BG James won the TNA World Tag Team Championship shot with that Feast or Fired thing, which was pretty stupid, admittedly.

Then he told Kip James that he might be challenging with another partner, which was pretty stupid.

Then he challenged with his father, who is awesome, but a skeleton.

they had a sure-fire thing in the TNA World Tag Team Championship, and BG James threw it away because he wanted a moment with his decrepit dad.

If there was a lot of good stuff around it (and at Lockdown there will be), it might not actually be that bad to watch.

The Voodoo Kin Mafia have been lame as fuck

The most self-contradicting poster in TPWW history?

[Hanso Amore]

I hate them, and think they need to be fired,

But I do agree that the angle has been done well. It is a great fued, the players are just lacking.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The most self-contradicting poster in TPWW history?

The Voodoo Kin Mafia's run as DX wannabes isn't relevant to their current program, so that's out. The decrepit dad/skeleton thing is intentional on the part of the storyline, so that's out. When I said it might not be that bad to watch, I was talking about he story heightening the ring work, which I never said I expected much from.

Yeah, I think the angle started off pretty stupid. Doesn't mean it can't evolve into something well done, which it has.

Read Hanso's post. My sentiments are almost exactly the same. I think both Kip and BG James are expendable in TNA's scheme of things, and that the ring work they will produce will probably be below average. The story has been good, though.

[NeanderCarl]

Just pointing out the funnies, dude. I've barely seen any of the VKM breakup so far, so I can't comment.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Fair enough. As it turns out the match was awful, and the feud is going to continue. Not really thrilled. Kip James is playing a good asshole, though.

[TerranRich]

Kip James is playing a good asshole, though.

Who says he's playing?

[Xero]

I bet he plays a cock really well, too.

[Dorkchop]

I bet he plays a cock really well, too.
You mean BG. He grew up on a farm.

[Xero]

Jesse "The Cock" James and "Mr. Ass" Billy Gunn...

:eek:

[TerranRich]

The Cock & Ass Connection.

It fits. (pun intended)

[Vastardikai]

I'm just posting for no apparrent reason, so for one brief moment, consecutive threads will say:

"So TNA seems to be have a lot riding on..."
"The Rock being an ass."

That is all...

[BigDaddyCool]

Noid...

[Kane Knight]

The most self-contradicting poster in TPWW history?

Definitely yes. He is not the most self-contradicting person ever. but then, if you were trying to find the good in everything, you'd probably have a breakdown trying to defend something even you admitted to be shit.

Anyway, haven't we seen them break up before? I could swear they did before the "Let's take cheap shots at our former boss" Mafia.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Definitely yes. He is not the most self-contradicting person ever. but then, if you were trying to find the good in everything, you'd probably have a breakdown trying to defend something even you admitted to be shit.

Anyway, haven't we seen them break up before? I could swear they did before the "Let's take cheap shots at our former boss" Mafia.

I've seen far more contradicting posters. You're up there, too. Given that half your arguments ironically contain the same flaws as other people's. You say it's a stupid thing to complain about it, I say it's a stupid thing to do it.

And they were a part of the 4 Live Kru, or whatever the fuck they where when it was BG James, Ron Killings, Konnan and Kip James. I think Kip James left the group, so that could be counted as a "break-up" I guess. They weren't really a tag team at the time, though.

I'm not even sure that feud came to blows.

[Kane Knight]

And that's another drink.

[Kane Knight]

Also, whether or not you find the joke funny, you should be able to recognise that as humour if you are literate and not psychotic. Interesting thing is that the mentally ill tend to be unable to differentiate it.

Or it could be a literacy issue, something I haven't ruled out yet. A lot of your arguments seem to come down to things that rely heavily on comprehension.

But I'm going with mental illness, because it's funnier.