Better Wrestler #16

[Destor]

If Steve Austin wins here he will be the first inductee to the Better Wrestler Hall of Fame. But to do it he will have to beat one of the greatest technicians of all time. Todays match:

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z137/vivafan/StoneCold_Steve_Austin.jpg

VS
http://www.derok.net/derek3/images/classics/wwf%20bret%20hart.jpg

Can the texas rattle snake beat the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be? In three days we wil find out.

<SELECT><OPTION selected>Better Wrestler History<OPTION>RVD vs CM Punk (34-19-2)</OPTION><OPTION>RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</OPTION><OPTION>RVD vs Mr. Perfect (15-23-1)</OPTION><OPTION>Mr. Perfect vs Tully Blanchard (30-5-1)</OPTION><OPTION>Mr. Perfect vs Chris Jericho (15-23-3)</OPTION><OPTION>Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</OPTION><OPTION>Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14-2)</OPTION><OPTION>Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23-13)</OPTION><OPTION>Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7-3)</OPTION><OPTION>Eddie Geurrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19-3)</OPTION><OPTION>Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</OPTION><OPTION>Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28-2)</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16-2)</OPTION></SELECT>

<SELECT><OPTION selected>Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</OPTION></SELECT>

[BigDaddyCool]

Um...Austin because fuck Bret. K4L.

[Destor]

lol

[Loose Cannon]

lol fuck man. This is going to be a slaughter though because this forum mostly despises Bret.

BRET FUCKING HART though

[BigDaddyCool]

Destor, voting Bret isn't very k4l.

[Destor]

lol fuck man. This is going to be a slaughter though because this forum mostly despises Bret.

BRET FUCKING HART thoughreally? I honestly hadn't noticed...

[Destor]

Destor, voting Bret isn't very k4l.
voting for bret over HBM isn't very k4l

[Loose Cannon]

oh yea, Bret Hart gets shitted on all the time. You have two groups here. People that despise him and people that love him. No in beweens really. But most of the newer fans despise him and we seem to have more of them here.

That's what I've noticed over the years

[Destor]

huh. Bret has an early lead, alls I know

[St. Jimmy]

lol, Bret is gonna eat cock in this poll.

Austin FTW.

[Kane Knight]

Bret Hart. But if Zen comes through: Fuck Bret!

[El Fangel]

A4L

[Fabien Barthez]

Bret.

[El Fangel]

Wow, bad thing is, the only person that can screw Bret out of the best wrestler championship would be Shawn Micheals.

[Londoner]

Wow, tough one, i think both guys are pretty equal overall..but i think Austin deserves to be in the hall of fame so gotta vote Austin.

[Xero]

In terms of in the ring, they're about equal (with their respective styles).

Austin wins out on the way he portrayed his character, his charisma and mic skills.

[Jeritron]

What Xero said

[Inadequacy]

I voted for Bret so he'd have at least something

[El Fangel]

He got fucked by Shawn Micheals, how is that not something?

[Kapoutman]

I always thought Bret's mic skills and charisma were underrated. His work in 1997 during the Hart Foundation angle was awesome in that field.

[NoRoolz]

I voted Austin, I've seen alot more of him and he was my 'favourite wrestler' being a 8 year old kid. Bret's amazing, but I only started watching in 98 so I have to go from video tapes and stuff. So yeah, Austin for me, purely favouritism.

9 - 9 :O

[Londoner]

Very close this could go either way

[El Fangel]

Cena wins.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Austin, easily. I don't despise Bret, but I was never a huge fan.Personally, I think he's overrated.

[El Fangel]

I agree with Kev, He was nothing special, just good.

[NoRoolz]

10-10.

This is actually more entertaining than Smackdown.

[Destor]

Close match early on. gonna be a good one.

[El Fangel]

Des, question, if Austin were to win, and a new champion be crowned, is Bret Hart back on the list of contenders? Or because he "fought" Austin, is he off the list?

[Destor]

He would be unable to compete agian until a much later time. (Which is why I said in #15 my pick would piss a lot of you off.)

[El Fangel]

Meh, Not seeing Bret Hart for a long while is nothing new.

[Destor]

Just for the record, I really want Austin to go over here, even though I didn't vote for him. I know the atch I'm gonna do after we crown first HoF and I cant to see it. and even know the match we'll do after that, should be interesting. but it's looking like Bret could actually take him out. Duno.

[Ruien]

The greatest there ever was
The greatest there is.
The greatest there ever will be.

[NoRoolz]

?

[Blue Demon]

I'm a HUGE Hart fan. I have been since I started watching wrestling. I like Austin, but toe me Bret is the better wrestler.

[Destor]

12-15 Bret hart. Dunno LC, Bret's got support, not even half of the regular vters have chimed in yet, but it looks like he stands a chance.

[Loose Cannon]

yea, I was really wrong. so far. I swear at one time the whole forum hated him. maybe it was to get under Zen's skin or trolling or something.

[Lock Jaw]

Bret. Pretty much the only times Austin has really entertained me is when he was feuding with Bret. And Bret was great otherwise, too. Plus he's a genie!

[thedamndest]

Austin. I mean, realistically they are about equal in how they entertained me over the years (granted at different points in my life), but seeing as this is the last round I do want to see somebody get into this thing.

[slextremely]

I gotta go with Bret really tough call, what Austin did for the business is in a whole different league (with hogan of course). But Hart is just one of my personal favorites, and i beleive he's a better wrestler. Draw power doesn't mean much to me.

[redoneja]

Bret Hart.

[CSL]

Pretty even overall, both excellent all-rounders, Austin gets it by a nose for being the biggest character and draw in the history of the business

[slextremely]

if hart wins this you gotta do Hart V Angle in the final round. Angle is kicking his ass in favorite wrestler. HBK will do also.

[El Fangel]

Wow, was not expecting Bret to upend austin when Sting lost so miserably to him.

Hey Redoneja

[Destor]

Austin. I mean, realistically they are about equal in how they entertained me over the years (granted at different points in my life), but seeing as this is the last round I do want to see somebody get into this thing.
This isn't the last round period, its jus the last round for SCSA...not sure if you were aware...dunno.

[Destor]

this is still REALLY early.

[Mister Sinister]

If I selected Sting over Austin last round, yeah, I choose Bret over Austin.

Like I said, Austin is good, but at times was extremely sloppy...

Bret despite not drawing a dime, is the better wrestler....look how Austin best match ever was against....Bret Hart...and just like WM13...I have Bret over Austin.

[Lock Jaw]

Figure Four around the ringpost was the coolest thing ever. Maybe even cooler than Alex Wright.

[Pardeep 619]

I personally rank Bret Hart amongst my 3 favourite wrestlers of all time. Austin was great at his peak, but I can't vote again Bret Hart. Bret was not necessarily an amazing sports entertainer like Austin, but was an exceptional wrestler, and possibly the best of all time.

[El Fangel]

this is still REALLY early.

And the last rounds were what 25-2 by now.

[Loose Cannon]

Bret drew a lot for the company overseas (and I means A LOT) and was huge in 93/94. Carried the company as the top babyface.

And both him and Austin (and later HBK) brought the WWE back from the dead in 97. you really can't say he didn't draw a dime

[Kapoutman]

I thought Rob was going to be the first to come in and defend Bret after the "not drawing a dime" comment.

[Destor]

ditto

[Heros Welcome]

I was never a Bret fan. I don't know why, because the wrestling style that I have came to love, is pretty much what Bret Hart is. Though I still don't like him. Always liked Owen more. Austin is taking the vote. He is in my top 3 all time and I'm going with him. But I will say thank you to Bret for bringing the best out of Austin in one of my all time fav matches.

[Jeritron]

I highly disagree with the current poll results

[Indifferent Clox]

I give it to Austin. Because, and though this is in no way his fault, Austin went from being good in WCW to being great in WWF, whereas Brett went from being amazing in WWF to being at times eh in WCW, at least from what I saw on nitro.

[redoneja]

Wow, was not expecting Bret to upend austin when Sting lost so miserably to him.

Hey Redoneja


Heyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Rammsteinmad]

Bret Hart. But jeez that was a tough one to call.

[Rammsteinmad]

I give it to Austin. Because, and though this is in no way his fault, Austin went from being good in WCW to being great in WWF, whereas Brett went from being amazing in WWF to being at times eh in WCW, at least from what I saw on nitro.

That's got nothing to do with Bret Hart.

Sure, it may swerve your opinion on his career, but at the end of the day all that proves is that WCW didn't have a fucking clue what to do with anyone who had a handful of talent.

[Destor]

Crazy close.

[Jeritron]

When's Zen gonna make an appearance?

[Destor]

Bret srcewed Bret.


Should be any minit now...

[Nowhere Man]

Tying it back up, my vote goes to Austin.

I do believe Bret was better in the ring, but just like Benoit, that's the only thing he really had going for him. Austin was a thousand times better on the mic, and brought in a shit-ton of money for WWE. And while Austin did refuse to do the job on occasion, he never got tangled up in as much backstage dickery as Bret did with Shawn.

Very close call, but I vote for Stone Cold...if only because I really really wanted him to win at WM13 (still my favorite Wrestlemania match of all time)

[Destor]

Stone cold takes the lead for practically the first time.

[Destor]

23-22

[Mercury Bullet]

25-22 now. Austin with the slim lead. I voted Austin BTW.

[D Mac]

Bret screwed Bret.

[Loose Cannon]

Bret :(

Where's Zen and his army :mad:

[Blue Demon]

Bret drew a lot for the company overseas (and I means A LOT) and was huge in 93/94. Carried the company as the top babyface.

And both him and Austin (and later HBK) brought the WWE back from the dead in 97. you really can't say he didn't draw a dime

I was just gonna mention this.

[NYDon]

Stomp a mudhole in him, Austin.

[Afterlife]

I voted Austin, and here's why:

When I first started watching, I could not stand Austin -- or the Rock. They were dicks that didn't treat anybody with any decency, and I couldn't understand it. Moreover, I couldn't understand why anyone liked these cuntpuddles. However, over time, I grew to like Austin, at first without even knowing why or how. But the point is, he made me appreciate him. He'll never be anywhere near my personal top ten, but I can appreciate him and he does entertain me.

Bret never managed to do that. To me, Bret is like racism: he's a conept I'll never truly grasp. Love him or hate him...I don't care either way.

[loopydate]

I don't like either of these guys... (Understatement of my posting career, btw) ...but I'm voting Bret just to keep Austin out of the HoF.

[Blue Demon]

I give it to Austin. Because, and though this is in no way his fault, Austin went from being good in WCW to being great in WWF, whereas Brett went from being amazing in WWF to being at times eh in WCW, at least from what I saw on nitro.

YOU SCREWED BRET! YOU SCREWED BRET! YOU SCREWED BRET!

[Verbose Minch]

Bret Hart.

[Indifferent Clox]

next time someone should face Mike Adamle.

[St. Jimmy]

BAH GAWD
http://www.ringinsider.com/wrestlingmedia/photos/gifs/stunner6.gif

[Kane Knight]

Bret drew a lot for the company overseas (and I means A LOT) and was huge in 93/94. Carried the company as the top babyface.

And both him and Austin (and later HBK) brought the WWE back from the dead in 97. you really can't say he didn't draw a dime

You're arguing against IWC logic. IWC logic is like conspiracy theorist logic, where one pares down all fact and context until only the statements that benefit the markish responses.

Therefore:

Bret never drew a dime.
Bret did nothing for the company.
Bret still spends all his time talking about Montreal.
Bret had no charisma.

[Kane Knight]

Actually, it'd be hilarious if the IWC started using the phrase "Sheeple."

[thedamndest]

This isn't the last round period, its jus the last round for SCSA...not sure if you were aware...dunno.

I was aware. I just want somebodies name to appear on that neat little pull down menu.

[Inadequacy]

Actually, it'd be hilarious if the IWC started using the phrase "Sheeple."

I thought they already did. I remember making fun of someone for it a while ago.

[Kane Knight]

Really?

[Xero]

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g122/sandman3g/Wrestling/sheeple.jpg

[Inadequacy]

yeah, someone went on a rant about tna fans being the tna sheeple.

In fact, I just found it
http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=57091&highlight=sheeple

[Londoner]

wow this is tight, austin was 29-27 up earlier now its 29-29

[Loose Cannon]

GO BRET GO.....GO BRET GO

[Xero]

What happens if there's a tie?

[Londoner]

Does austin still get into HOF if its a draw i wonder?

[Jeritron]

Seems like a lot of socks are involved

[Xero]

And Austin's in the lead with 2 and a half hours to go! Austin! Austin! BAHGAWD AUSTIN!

[Indifferent Clox]

What effect do you think the Adamle/Adamle feud had on the ratings for this Poll?

[NoRoolz]

So close.

AUSTIN AUSTIN AUSTIN

[Lock Jaw]

:foc:Austin

[Inadequacy]

Come on, one more vote to tie this bitch up

[Inadequacy]

that sounded more rape-esque than I had hoped

[Londoner]

wow, 32-31 :D

[Londoner]

inadequacy, the polls closed now so austin won.

[Heros Welcome]

The first inductee, Mr. Stone Cold Steve Austin:yes:

[Inadequacy]

inadequacy, the polls closed now so austin won.

Well darn

[Jura]

That was hot.

[NoRoolz]

STONE COLD!
STONE COLD!
STONE COLD!

[Destor]

Holy shit.

[Destor]

What happens if there's a tie?In the event of a tie the champion continues but it doesn't count as a win. (because it isn't a win, just a title defense.) The challenger will be allowed to challenge the next champion or during the next vacancy, which ever comes first.

[MVP]

FUCK I wish I would have seen this thread earlier, then the score would be tied :rant:

Bret Hart > Your favorite wrestler