View Full Version : Do you take Danica Patrick seriously?
I do. I'm kind of a closet NASCAR and Indy Car fan. I go to the Brickyard and Indy500 every year and have a great time. I think its a huge deal the Danica Patrick, a female, won a Indy Car race. Thats a huge break through in my mind. Right up there with Jackie Robinson and baseball.
What do you think?
Funky Fly
04-26-2008, 03:20 AM
That would kinda require that I took Nascar seriously, so that's no.
But good for her tho, I guess. She can turn left faster than most dudes. :y:
Mister Sinister
04-26-2008, 03:24 AM
I don't follow racing very much, other then the fact, I give my sister a hard time for being a die-hard Jimmy Johnson Fan, a man who had a capterpillar eyebrow.
Honestly however, I don't take her seriously, am I proud that she was able to win the Indy 500, Sure..more power to her, She just needs to become a more constant and successful driver for me to take her seriously however.
Bad Company
04-26-2008, 03:35 AM
You have to take someone who won a race seriously.
But Scott Dixon is the man.
she didnt win the Indy 500. That would be unreal.
OssMan
04-26-2008, 12:43 PM
No, not at all. I will only take this kind of breakthrough seriously if she stops trying to get it across that she is a woman and she is trying to do something different. If she had come into racing and just shut up and raced, then that would be cool, but she is too busy making sure everyone knows she is a woman and posing in Maxim magazine,
NoJabbaNoBogRoll
04-26-2008, 01:50 PM
Who?
SammyG
04-26-2008, 01:58 PM
She's a woman playing sports. So no.
Do you want Danica Patrick to shut up and cook your dinner?
http://pornhater.com/wp-content/photos/danicapatrick012oe.jpg
i'm taking her very seriously.
Gertner
04-26-2008, 07:35 PM
considering auto racing isn't a sport, it's no big deal.
WestNZ
04-27-2008, 02:24 AM
id take her seriously. Seeing that she is in a male dominated sport, and she is doing well, so to me, she is worth taking seriously. She won her first race within 75 race starts, in a sport where a man can race for years, 150+ races and NEVER win, so the fact that she has won has to say something about her skill.
WestNZ
04-27-2008, 02:25 AM
considering auto racing isn't a sport, it's no big deal.
i dont think so dude. its one of the richest sports around, and unlike some sports around, you can race for your whole life.
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Requiem
04-27-2008, 02:37 AM
I take her seriously as a competitor, but I hardly think she will ever be a champion. Also, I am a huge NASCAR fan. I don't have memorabilia or anything, but I will sit and watch races. My uncle has season passes to a couple raceways that he goes to every single time they have a big race at them. I'd love to go to a race.
I have a favorite driver, but I am not really anti-other drivers unless they are huge douches. Like Kyle Busch. I think he is a huge douche and I hate when he wins races. I grew up loving Dale Earnhardt Sr. and Jr. is easily my favorite. But I still love when guys like Stewart or Gordon win. Like today's race at Talladega, I was just as happy that Stewart finally won his first Talladega race even though I was sure Jr. was going to take him in the last few laps.
Big Hendrick's team fan. And yes, I consider racing a sport. Really hoping that after Franchitti gets some experience driving the NASCAR cars that he will be a top contender in a year or two.
He's just in it for the experience right now, but he was my favorite for YEARS when he did both Indy and CART. He was finally getting the respect he deserved these past few seasons, so I can't wait to see what he can do in NASCAR.
Requiem
04-27-2008, 02:39 AM
I just realized how completely randomly pieced together my post was.
I think Mario Andretti would kick the shit outta Gertner
Downunder
04-27-2008, 10:48 AM
I banned Gertie the last time he dissed NASCAR. :D
Requiem
04-27-2008, 05:42 PM
Speaking of.. @$%$&*(@ fuck Kyle Busch. :foc:
That was a pretty intense race though just now. Talladega never gets boring. 4 and 5 wide. Two big wrecks, one on the LAST LAP. Pretty crazy stuff.
Gertner
04-28-2008, 06:21 PM
I think Mario Andretti would kick the shit outta Gertner
that midget wop wouldn't stand a chance
Gertner
04-28-2008, 06:22 PM
i dont think so dude. its one of the richest sports around, and unlike some sports around, you can race for your whole life.
The fact that a woman can compete with men makes it not a sports. IT's on the level of bowling and darts
I'd take her seriously...up the butt.
YOUR Hero
04-28-2008, 09:39 PM
I don't know... I don't know enough about what it takes to be a great driver. All I know is some cars are better, faster, etc. Knowing what I know, I don't know if I can take any racer serious.
What about Speed Racer?
http://apowpunj.homestead.com/files/Members/Graphics/speed_Racer.JPG
Gertner
04-28-2008, 09:55 PM
I don't know... I don't know enough about what it takes to be a great driver. All I know is some cars are better, faster, etc. Knowing what I know, I don't know if I can take any racer serious.
pretty much the teams with more money win. It shit all to do with skill. Which makes it a joke as a sport.
Downunder
04-28-2008, 11:26 PM
pretty much the teams with more money win. It shit all to do with skill. Which makes it a joke as a sport.
You just described proffesional sports.
What we will do for the sake of argument, is put Gertner (or anyone who shaes his opinion) in a racecar with the best team, an unlimited budget and watch him win his first race.
No skill involved, it shouldn't be hard.
Gertner
04-29-2008, 01:14 AM
You just described proffesional sports.
What we will do for the sake of argument, is put Gertner (or anyone who shaes his opinion) in a racecar with the best team, an unlimited budget and watch him win his first race.
No skill involved, it shouldn't be hard.
hardly. The salary cap has pretty much killed that with the exception of baseball and when was the last time the yanks won? It's friggen ridiculius in auto racing. Look at formula 1. IT's not a sport, it never has been a sport. It's driivng a fucking race car around the track. If you put Jeff Gordon on one of the lessor teams he wouldn't win shit.
Downunder
04-29-2008, 01:16 AM
Could you beat Jeff Gordon?
Both driving the same spec car prepared by the same team
Gertner
04-29-2008, 01:22 AM
Dude, i drive an avenger and i don't know shit about cars.
The fact that a woman can compete makes it not a sport. I'm not saying you can't enjoy it, but don't tell me it's a sport. I can't do algebra, does that make doing math a sport....no.
Look at hockey. There's NO WAY a female could play in the nhl. Hayley Wichenheiser couldn't even make the top league in Finland. The same can be said for soccer, football and basketball, all real sports.
Bad Company
04-29-2008, 01:40 AM
Don't even start about formula 1, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT.
Downunder
04-29-2008, 02:30 AM
Dude, i drive an avenger and i don't know shit about cars.
The fact that a woman can compete makes it not a sport. I'm not saying you can't enjoy it, but don't tell me it's a sport. I can't do algebra, does that make doing math a sport....no.
Look at hockey. There's NO WAY a female could play in the nhl. Hayley Wichenheiser couldn't even make the top league in Finland. The same can be said for soccer, football and basketball, all real sports.
Women play Football, Rugby, Baseball, Basketball, Hockey etc, all "real sports".
You said It shit all to do with skill. so therefore anyone, including someone as ignorant as you, could get into a race car, or motorbike (as I'm going to assume that in your world that isn't a sport either) and beat the likes of Jeff Gordon, Mario Andretti, Lewis Hamilton, Valentino Rossi, Casey Stoner or Craig Lowndes. Because as you say It shit all to do with skill.
Oh by the way, the fact that you can't do algebra probably just means you're thick.
Requiem
04-29-2008, 03:04 AM
Gertner, you have no idea how big of an idiot you are coming off as right now. If you knew anything about what you were talking about you would know that money isn't everything. I'm sure it helps to be able to replace cars if wrecked, but they are working with the same hardware. There are strict regulations in place to keep everyone on an even playing field.
There is a reason new drivers pop into the winner's circle all the time. Because they were simply better at that moment. Don't just make generalizations because you don't like the sport. There is so much about driving that the average person doesn't even know.
There is a reason why Dale Jr. and Tony Stewart make a fucking amazing drafting duo. Because they KNOW what they are doing. It has shit all to do with their money. They're not even on the same team but because they know what they are doing they can go from the back of the pack to the front in no time at all with eachother's help.
Look at it this way. Dario Franchitti is loaded. He was a CART champion and is married to Ashley Judd. But he has shit all experience driving NASCAR cars and has all the experience driving open-wheeled instead. So he has been doing pretty horribly in NASCAR because he doesn't know what he is doing there. That is a driver who has years and years of experience racing, and still can't compete with the current champs, regardless of how much money he obviously has.
Gertner
04-29-2008, 09:03 AM
Women play Football, Rugby, Baseball, Basketball, Hockey etc, all "real sports".
You said so therefore anyone, including someone as ignorant as you, could get into a race car, or motorbike (as I'm going to assume that in your world that isn't a sport either) and beat the likes of Jeff Gordon, Mario Andretti, Lewis Hamilton, Valentino Rossi, Casey Stoner or Craig Lowndes. Because as you say
Oh by the way, the fact that you can't do algebra probably just means you're thick.
women play those sports, but they can't compete on the same level as a man.
Requiem
04-29-2008, 08:07 PM
Wait, did you actually just say that because a woman can do it on an equal level with men, that it is not a sport? Because if you did, any semblance of an argument or any opinion you ever had on the issue just went out the window.
Downunder
04-29-2008, 08:30 PM
That's what I was getting at Req.
Gertner
04-30-2008, 12:27 AM
Wait, did you actually just say that because a woman can do it on an equal level with men, that it is not a sport? Because if you did, any semblance of an argument or any opinion you ever had on the issue just went out the window.
in any sport invovling any physical ability a women can't comptete with a man
Requiem
04-30-2008, 01:24 AM
That's not what I was getting at. What I was getting at was that you said it -isn't a sport- if a woman can compete with men on an equal level. And -that- is why you don't think racing is a sport? Because women can compete at the same level as men?
Going off on a limb and on the other end of the spectrum here, I bet you don't think figure skating is a sport then. Women compete on an even level with men, yet that is a physically competitive sport. Hell, they even compete together. It takes a huge amount of skill and precision, as well as physical strength and stamina to do what they do. But because women can compete on an equal level with men, by the reasoning you've stated in this thread then you don't think it is a sport.
I don't think there is a good enough reason out there for people NOT to take her seriously. Might be a male dominated sport but she is obviously racing because she is good enough to do so. If this was a more physical sport then you would have an argument to call it a gimmick. There is far too much money and danger in this sport for any racing team to be messing around with gimmicks. Good luck to her.
RGWhat316
04-30-2008, 02:27 PM
I'm a big racing/Nascar fan, but I don't usually mention it too much around here cus it wasn't very well received. But I don't mind Danica, though it seems that she is geting the most attention cus she has been competitive in the Indycar series. Other female drivers have been around but some haven't been very competitive, such as Milka Duno. The only grief I had with her victory is that is was done on fuel mileage, and her not having the best car. I would really take her seriously if she had the best car and won it all on here own.
Nascar-wise, I still watch every week, but becoming less interested than I was. I hate the new car they are running, it just looks like shit. I try to be somewhat obsecure when it comes to liking drivers. My favorite is Matt Kenseth, mainly cus he doesn't cause a whole lot of attention, but is always up there competing for the win. However this year isn't going well for him as he has blown 2 flat tires and hit the wall the last 2 races. Though I am starting to like Kyle Busch more just cus everyone else hates him so much. He's exciting to watch, even if he is a douche.
Requiem
04-30-2008, 02:52 PM
I am a huge fan of this new car. These past few years have been some of the best years Auto Racing has seen in a while. Well, at least NASCAR. I don't follow Indy/CART much anymore, though I used to be huge on it. Thought it was cool how a lot of long-time open wheel drivers have gone to NASCAR this year too. Carpentier, Franchitti, Almendinger. Some great drivers there.
Best car? What are you talking about? Winning with an inferior car makes it a better achievement doesn't it?
RGWhat316
04-30-2008, 03:17 PM
I'm not really taking anything away from her, hell she probably should have won a race or 2 last year. The only thing i'm saying is that if she would have went out and dominated by kicking all of their butts, she would have really made a statement. By watching alot of races, almost anyone can win a fuel mileage race. That's how Casey Mears got his first victory in Cup last year.
Why bring up a best car argument then? I don't really watch Indy but say if she was in F1 driving for Red Bull or something and then won a race without the Ferrari's and McLaren's dropping out dropping out I'd be very impressed she won a race. In fact, I'd be impressed if anyone did male or female.
Gertner
05-01-2008, 12:36 PM
That's not what I was getting at. What I was getting at was that you said it -isn't a sport- if a woman can compete with men on an equal level. And -that- is why you don't think racing is a sport? Because women can compete at the same level as men?
Going off on a limb and on the other end of the spectrum here, I bet you don't think figure skating is a sport then. Women compete on an even level with men, yet that is a physically competitive sport. Hell, they even compete together. It takes a huge amount of skill and precision, as well as physical strength and stamina to do what they do. But because women can compete on an equal level with men, by the reasoning you've stated in this thread then you don't think it is a sport.
lol women can't compete with men in figure skating. name one women to ever pull off a quad axel. Any sports involving any physical ability a woman can't compete. it's been proven time and time again. michelle wie couldn't annika sorenstam couldn't, hayley wickenheiser couldnt, the best wnba player couldn't make a NBDL team, and let's not even discuss american football.
Requiem
05-01-2008, 01:41 PM
They sure compete together all the time though.
You are still completely dodging the question here, and the point being made. You said it is not a sport "If women can compete on an equal level". I'm just trying to be clear here.. cause if you're being a bigot about it then I really couldn't give two shits about your opinion on the subject. If not, then I'm just trying to understand your reasoning.. but that is what I have been asking repeatedly and you have still not directly answered that question. Are you afraid of being called a bigot or what? I mean, it's not a bigot to tell the truth in that women are not as physically able as men. But saying that something isn't a sport BECAUSE women can compete.. come on. Get off your high and mighty, fist pumping, chest thumping all-that-is-man horse here.
BigDaddyCool
05-01-2008, 01:59 PM
Does she text while driving?
Gertner
05-01-2008, 03:55 PM
They sure compete together all the time though.
You are still completely dodging the question here, and the point being made. You said it is not a sport "If women can compete on an equal level". I'm just trying to be clear here.. cause if you're being a bigot about it then I really couldn't give two shits about your opinion on the subject. If not, then I'm just trying to understand your reasoning.. but that is what I have been asking repeatedly and you have still not directly answered that question. Are you afraid of being called a bigot or what? I mean, it's not a bigot to tell the truth in that women are not as physically able as men. But saying that something isn't a sport BECAUSE women can compete.. come on. Get off your high and mighty, fist pumping, chest thumping all-that-is-man horse here.
I've said numerous fucking time that it's not a sport if a woman can compete with a man. just because you hillibillies enjoy watch one big left turn for three hours doesn't make it a sport. I'm not a bigot I"M STATING A FACT!
Gertner
05-01-2008, 03:57 PM
and what happens when they compete together? they get destroyed. Ask hayley wickenheiser and michelle wie.
Downunder
05-01-2008, 09:19 PM
I was a huge Dale Jarrett fan, until he switched to Toyota, fuck the Jap crap. But now with Marcos Ambrose over there I gotta follow my home boy. And I've been a fan since he was racing in the V8 Supercars in Oz.
Requiem
05-01-2008, 09:27 PM
I've said numerous fucking time that it's not a sport if a woman can compete with a man. just because you hillibillies enjoy watch one big left turn for three hours doesn't make it a sport. I'm not a bigot I"M STATING A FACT!
How is that not being a bigot? Saying it isn't a sport because women compete equally is pretty much the definition of bigotry. In fact, I'm pretty sure if you look up the term bigot in the dictionary it will tell you "Gertner is a pink-shirt wearing <s>faggot</s> bigot."
Let's also not ignore that you are completely generalizing ALL racing into NASCAR. Which, while I do enjoy it yes, it is not the only type of auto racing. Hell, it isn't even the only type being discussed here. Danica Patrick doesn't race NASCAR. She races Indy, which is primarily road courses.
This is an argument you will simply not win. I don't give two fucks if you like the sport. But it -is- a sport. It takes years of practice to do what these people do, and that is no different for a woman. There's a reason I said I don't think she will ever be a champion. Because I don't think she will ever be that good. But yeah she will be a competitor for years to come probably.
Like was said earlier by someone else.. let's toss you in a championship car on a champion team and see if you can take the gold. Fuck it, let's give you a month of driving school even to see if you can pick it up. Guarantee you would either wreck or finish in the last half of the field.
I don't even know why, but you have made me so angry with your stupid generalizations. I don't even own one bit of racing memorabilia, and I only watch a race once every week or two. But fuck, when people start spouting off shit about something they don't know ANYTHING about, it pisses me off. Even arguing with Kris P or Kane Knight has never made me this aggravated.
Not every sport in existence has to fit your stupid metro-sexual standards in order to be considered a sport.
Gertner
05-02-2008, 12:10 AM
just because i can't do something doesn't mean it's a sport. i can't do math worth shit, does that make it a sport?
If it were a sport a woman couldn't compete with a man. Auto racing has always been a semi sport in my book and many other peoples book, but when a female can compete with a man, it makes it even less. IT's not bigoted, it's just stating the truth.
Requiem
05-02-2008, 01:11 AM
just because i can't do something doesn't mean it's a sport.
And just because someone can't do something as well as others, that doesn't mean it -isn't- a sport you stupid guido.
Oh wait, I get it now. You feel threatened as a man when a woman can do something as good as men. :lol:
Gertner
05-02-2008, 01:15 AM
i can't play volleyball, but it's definitley a sport.
And i'm hardly threatened as a man.
Requiem
05-02-2008, 01:27 AM
And just because someone can't do something as well as others, that doesn't mean it -isn't- a sport you stupid guido.
i can't play volleyball, but it's definitley a sport.
Oh, I get it. You're agreeing with me now. Then it's settled!
Gertner
05-02-2008, 06:22 PM
yeah but i'm a guy
Does she text while driving?
This made me crack up hard.
Requiem
05-03-2008, 01:41 AM
yeah but i'm a guy
And with comments like these, you don't see how you are being a bigot?
yeah but i'm a gay
:shifty:
Looks like she hit a crew member with her car.
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080509/capt.d808ef20b31549f78e3034267b2ec4d2.irl_indy_500_auto_racing_naa117.jpg
Bad Company
05-10-2008, 08:23 AM
It happens.
#1-norm-fan
05-10-2008, 07:13 PM
Looks like she hit a crew member with her car.
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080509/capt.d808ef20b31549f78e3034267b2ec4d2.irl_indy_500_auto_racing_naa117.jpg
Women drivers... :nono:
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