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From PWInsider:
World Wrestling Entertainment's Santino Marella was arrested at 2:57 AM this morning on charges of Driving Under the Influence after being stopped at 6301 Westshore Boulevard in Tampa, Florida. Marella is currently being held on $500 bond. I'm sure we'll have more on this later today.
He can kiss any push goodbye. Maybe even his job.
KingofOldSchool
05-01-2008, 10:28 AM
He got arrested for DUI not drugs, he certainly won't be fired. I doubt he will even get punished besides a fine or something.
Wait until the media gets a hold of it. If it gets enough press they'll have to do something.
Though I don't THINK he should get much heat, it's likely he will.
KingofOldSchool
05-01-2008, 10:34 AM
Wait until the media gets a hold of it. If it gets enough press they'll have to do something.
Though I don't THINK he should get much heat, it's likely he will.
The media won't bat an eye over this unless it involved either any kind of pill and/or murder.
Dorkchop
05-01-2008, 10:37 AM
Fuck Santino! Fuck anyone who drinks and drives.
"Is alcohol the new drug that's killing wrestling? Find out tonight on Nancy Grace!"
KingofOldSchool
05-01-2008, 10:40 AM
"Is alcohol the new drug that's killing wrestling? Find out tonight on Nancy Grace!"
Complete with Marc Mero's list of 500 wrestlers who died because of alcohol.
Mr. Nerfect
05-01-2008, 11:01 AM
Well, that certainly was stupid on Marella's part. I doubt he will get rewarded for this behaviour. Of course, he is currently feuding in-part with Hardcore Holly, so his matches are probably punishment enough. I also doubt we'll see Sober Santino and Constructive-Worker Carlito get the World Tag Team Championship anytime soon. Yes, those names were sarcastic.
Kane Knight
05-01-2008, 11:17 AM
He can kiss any push goodbye. Maybe even his job.
This just in: Fans of shitty wrestlers put on suicide watch.
Fabien Barthez
05-01-2008, 11:38 AM
I doubt he will get rewarded for this behaviour.
Ya think? :-\
Kane Knight
05-01-2008, 11:56 AM
Ya think? :-\
ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN IN THE WWE!
Evil Vito
05-01-2008, 12:27 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Ugh, fucking Holly and Rhodes are gonna keep the belts now :( Hopefully they can job them to Londrick soon or something.</font>
SammyG
05-01-2008, 12:34 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :( :( :( :(
KingofOldSchool
05-01-2008, 12:41 PM
They were going to let him go, but he had a warrant for stealing Jerry Stoopid Lawler's delicious sandwich.
Jeritron
05-01-2008, 01:16 PM
He won't lose any push or his job. DUIs happen all the time and we don't even hear about them. Even Kurt Angle got one and nobody cared
It's an out of work matter, and he'll have to pay for it and settle it outside of his work. Other than maybe a fine, which I doubt, it won't have any effect on him in the WWE
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tmz.com/media/2008/05/0501_santino_marella_ex_details_mug.jpg
RVDmark
05-01-2008, 01:26 PM
1) They didn't say what he was under the influence of.
2) Has he been charged or just arrested? He could be proved inocent yet.
3) I hope this doesn't fuck things up for him. Although its not as if they can depush him much further. He's in a tag team already, the only way down from here is the cruiserweight belt.
Kane Knight
05-01-2008, 01:36 PM
He won't lose any push or his job. DUIs happen all the time and we don't even hear about them. Even Kurt Angle got one and nobody cared
It's an out of work matter, and he'll have to pay for it and settle it outside of his work. Other than maybe a fine, which I doubt, it won't have any effect on him in the WWE
Kurt Angle gets away with more than others because he's Kurt "Fucking" Angle.
KingofOldSchool
05-01-2008, 02:53 PM
http://i28.tinypic.com/23szzgz.gif
Corkscrewed
05-01-2008, 03:57 PM
There goes his title run--oh wait...
Kane Knight
05-01-2008, 04:05 PM
LOL. thus further securing his place in the hearts of those who latch on to people who will never go anywhere.
KingofOldSchool
05-01-2008, 04:44 PM
TMZ.com has some more details:
Former WWE Intercontinental Champion Santino Marella was arrested at 2:57 AM EST in Tampa, Fla. for suspicion of driving under the influence.
Marella, real name Anthony Carelli, was pulled over by officers after they witnessed his car drifting back forth on West Shore Boulevard -- and after he was stopped they noticed he had "bloodshot, watery and glassy eyes."
Carelli then failed two field sobriety tests -- he couldn't hold his balance and did not take the correct amount of steps requested by the officers. He then told officers he started drinking at midnight, and had three Miller Lights and one Kamikaze.
After being taken to the Hillsborough County jail, Carelli's BAC registered at .061 and .062. Although the legal blood alcohol content in Florida in .08 -- he took the test nearly two hours after being arrested and can still be prosecuted.
He was released on $500 bond around an hour ago.
Team Sheep
05-01-2008, 04:45 PM
Hah wouldn't be surprised if they made a sotryline out of it. Though with this whole new kids iniciative, probably not.
KingofOldSchool
05-01-2008, 04:52 PM
Hah wouldn't be surprised if they made a sotryline out of it. Though with this whole new kids iniciative, probably not.
They can play it up where CM Punk saves his life.
Kane Knight
05-01-2008, 04:54 PM
They can play it up where CM Punk saves his life.
And teaches him English.
KingofOldSchool
05-01-2008, 04:59 PM
And teaches him English.
Punk and Striker double team?
Kane Knight
05-01-2008, 06:54 PM
That sounds gay.
KingofOldSchool
05-01-2008, 08:13 PM
That sounds gay.
Have you SEEN the tights Striker wears when he wrestles?
Avenger
05-01-2008, 08:31 PM
He was under the limit, jeez.
Kane Knight
05-01-2008, 08:41 PM
He was under the limit, jeez.
He was under the limit two hours later. You're a smart lad; in the time between the traffic stop and the breath test, assuming the Arresting Officer didn't stop on the way to the station for shots, would his BAC have gone up or down?
RVDmark
05-01-2008, 08:44 PM
So he's under the limit but because it was 2 hours later he gets convicted anyway? So how does that work. If he's under, he's under, and if the cops take 2 hours to process him thats their dumbass fault. Surely they now have to prove that it takes that amount of time to process more than 0.019 blood alcohol.
I mean its not hard to think of reasons why someone who travels round the country just to get beaten up might be glazed / bloodshot. Aside from the obvious weed jokes, I would imagine a WWE shecdule alone leads to bloodshot eyes and a glazed expression. Look at Perry Saturn's WWE run for example ;)
RVDmark
05-01-2008, 08:45 PM
He was under the limit two hours later. You're a smart lad; in the time between the traffic stop and the breath test, assuming the Arresting Officer didn't stop on the way to the station for shots, would his BAC have gone up or down?
Correct, but you need proof he was over at the time. And there is none. End of story.
Kane Knight
05-01-2008, 09:01 PM
Correct, but you need proof he was over at the time. And there is none. End of story.
Too bad you're wrong. It's not the end of the story.
Otherwise, it was a nice little statement. Too bad it relies on the notion that they can't book him with it. Read the TMZ article if you're unclear on that.
Besides, standard reduction of BAC means he was well over the limit at the time. They can demonstrate this by taking his BAC and adding 2 hours to it. End of story. :)
Kane Knight
05-01-2008, 09:06 PM
In reality, his BAC would have been between .09 and .10 at the time, well above the legal limit.
Anybody Thrilla
05-01-2008, 09:54 PM
They really should have breathalyzed him on the scene, though. With the right lawyers, which I'm assuming he can afford, this seems like it could easily be beaten.
Kane Knight
05-01-2008, 09:56 PM
They really should have breathalyzed him on the scene, though. With the right lawyers, which I'm assuming he can afford, this seems like it could easily be beaten.
Depends on the state. A lot of states have made this a legit practice.
Vastardikai
05-01-2008, 11:14 PM
ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN IN THE WWE!
Well, his name isn't Randy Orton, so he'll be in the dog house.
Avenger
05-01-2008, 11:30 PM
He was under the limit two hours later. You're a smart lad; in the time between the traffic stop and the breath test, assuming the Arresting Officer didn't stop on the way to the station for shots, would his BAC have gone up or down?I thought the fact I said "jeez" may have hinted at my sarcasm, in future I will try to be more clear for you. :p
RVDmark
05-02-2008, 11:38 AM
Depends on the state. A lot of states have made this a legit practice.
I guess they just do thigs differently over there. I am not in favour of drink-driving. Not for one second, but not breathalysing him at the time just seems like sloppy police work.
Do they not use roadside testing equipment in the states?
I agree KK that he probably was over at the time, but I just don't see why it takes 2 hours to get a reading.
In the UK if you are under when tested, you are under, end of.
RVDmark
05-02-2008, 11:39 AM
Well, his name isn't Randy Orton, so he'll be in the dog house.
Yep, next thing you know he'll be shoved into some thrown together tag team with Carlitto and jobbing to Cody Rhodes. um...hang on. :shifty:
St. Jimmy
05-02-2008, 12:11 PM
He was arrested for impersonating a stereotype. :y:
Kane Knight
05-02-2008, 12:22 PM
I thought the fact I said "jeez" may have hinted at my sarcasm, in future I will try to be more clear for you. :p
Copout.
I guess they just do thigs differently over there. I am not in favour of drink-driving. Not for one second, but not breathalysing him at the time just seems like sloppy police work.
Do they not use roadside testing equipment in the states?
I agree KK that he probably was over at the time, but I just don't see why it takes 2 hours to get a reading.
In the UK if you are under when tested, you are under, end of.
They do use roadside testing. I don't know about all states, and because it's a state law, some may not. With 50 states, it's hard to keep track of all the laws on a given topic. I do know there are plenty of states where a test after the fact is still acceptable, and I don't see a problem with that. I can reasonably and accurately tell you what his BAC was. What difference should it make?
St. Jimmy
05-02-2008, 04:30 PM
www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/pub/default.asp?/Online/qdisp/bn=08027376
Besides, standard reduction of BAC means he was well over the limit at the time. They can demonstrate this by taking his BAC and adding 2 hours to it. End of story. :)
They can't do that. The human body produces different results for everyone and they can't get an accurate reading by doing this.
Kane Knight
05-02-2008, 07:42 PM
They can't do that. The human body produces different results for everyone and they can't get an accurate reading by doing this.
The variances are surprisingly small.
Not denying it. I don't know the human body well enough to comment. I just know they can't get away with it. There needs to be a reason they didn't test him when they arrested him.
Sorry they did test him but where are the results?
Kane Knight
05-02-2008, 09:34 PM
Not denying it. I don't know the human body well enough to comment. I just know they can't get away with it. There needs to be a reason they didn't test him when they arrested him.
Actually, the only reason there needs to be is they don't have to.
You see, in several states, you don't need to actually do a field test. You can take someone in on suspicion of DUI/DWI and test them when you bring them in.
In short, they don't need a reason. They can "get away with it," and in all probability they will.
Metabolic differences that would put him outside the standard variance I already gave are rare enough that it qualifies as beyond a reasonable doubt, the tenet of American law in the first place. It's actually more probable that there would be a suffificent variance in the BrAC test itself, and that's improbable enough that arguing it would never succeed in court. In other words, it's not 100% certain, but it's "close enough for law."
After being taken to the Hillsborough County jail, Carelli's BAC registered at .061 and .062. Although the legal blood alcohol content in Florida in .08 -- he took the test nearly two hours after being arrested and can still be prosecuted.
Emphasis mine. Which also answers your question about the results.
Fabien Barthez
05-02-2008, 09:35 PM
Why don't you offer to represent him, Rob?
But yeah, sounds a bit fucked up he apparently failed 3 times including at the roadside, but the highest number they have is below the limit.
His weariness could be due to being tired. I mean, he is a pro wrestler working for Vince.
Sounds like a naive thought, but is entirely likely.
Kane Knight
05-02-2008, 09:37 PM
You're right about naive.
Fabien Barthez
05-02-2008, 09:38 PM
Oh, and the English law for this basically emphasises what Rob is saying.
Kane Knight
05-02-2008, 09:40 PM
Also, when they say he failed two sobriety tests, they mean the balance and step tests. These are enough to bring someone in, and don't qualify as things that would be readily explained by "working for Vince," except if used in the phrase "You'd have to be high to..."
Kane Knight
05-02-2008, 09:41 PM
Oh, and the English law for this basically emphasises what Rob is saying.
Too bad he wasn't arrested in England, then. I mean, we're kind of talking about an American arrest, so British law has about as much to do with it as the price of tea in China.
Fabien Barthez
05-02-2008, 09:42 PM
You're right about naive.
Well, Ive driven a car tired as fuck before, after a few beers. Ive not been drunk but I have occasionally, due to the tiredness, not the drinking found my self struggling to concentrate. Had I been pull I may have suffered the same fate of only being on the edge of the limit.
I already stated that it seems naive. It honestly didn't need re-iterating by you when you have no more facts or evidence to prove me wrong.
Fabien Barthez
05-02-2008, 09:44 PM
Too bad he wasn't arrested in England, then. I mean, we're kind of talking about an American arrest, so British law has about as much to do with it as the price of tea in China.
Rob is English, and I'm just assuming he wouldn't have expected the US law to be so 'well, it's close enough for us' about it.
Fabien Barthez
05-02-2008, 09:49 PM
Although, that in itself would have been naive. Vicious cycle. :-\
Kane Knight
05-02-2008, 09:49 PM
Rob is English, and I'm just assuming he wouldn't have expected the US law to be so 'well, it's close enough for us' about it.
Yeah, relying on scientific probabilities that are far beyond any reasonable doubt seems pretty ridiculous. Kinda like that Global warming myth.
DNA's "close enough," too. Do you guys think relying on that is unexpected?
Fabien Barthez
05-02-2008, 09:54 PM
Doesn't stop my original point that the argument you are having is simply the difference in the national law on the subject.
And although, as you say they are 'relying on scientific probabilities that are far beyond any reasonable doubt', still doesn't make it fucking fact.
Comparing DNA evidence with blood alcohol levels and speed of decline? Whatever, dude.
Vastardikai
05-03-2008, 03:33 PM
I failed a field sobriety test one time, but I have dangerously flat feet and was wearing flip flops. So, I couldn't walk the line.
Kane Knight
05-03-2008, 05:03 PM
Doesn't stop my original point that the argument you are having is simply the difference in the national law on the subject.
And although, as you say they are 'relying on scientific probabilities that are far beyond any reasonable doubt', still doesn't make it fucking fact.
Comparing DNA evidence with blood alcohol levels and speed of decline? Whatever, dude.
Right. Doesn't change your original point, or make it any less stupid
Hey...You know what makes it fact?
The fact of the matter. Or are you just going to be selective about what science you accept?
Fabien Barthez
05-03-2008, 07:04 PM
I would accept the reading on my blood alcohol level at the time of arrest. Not two hours later, using nothing but probability to determine the level at time of arrest. Especially as the rate of decretion can potentially variate dramatically, even if by probability, it won't.
I accept science, not probability, dressed up as fact.
I mean, what is this? Lets try to argue about fuck all day or something? Nothing I said was invalid or incorrect. Just because you use sarcastic undertones in your response doesn't give you any highground.
Rob is English.
How fucking dare you!!!!!!
Bob Barnett is a lawyer (California mind you) and he says it's gonna get thrown out because they don't have a failed test or a failure to take one.
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