Doink the Clown was the mother fucking man.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I've been watching a lot of WWE 24/7 Online, and recently I've been watching Raw in order from episode one. Doink was a pretty big part of the early evolution of Raw, and everything from the way they debuted him to his character to his ring work was just absolutely fantastic. Even though face Doink was lame as fuck, heel Doink, I have just decided, is my favorite character of all time. Use this thread to discuss the greatness that was this guy....

http://www.canoe.ca/WrestlingImagesD/doink.jpg

[thedamndest]

I have been saying this for awhile now, that they should bring back heel Doink(s) on ECW/Smackdown.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I dunno, they've made such a mockery out of the character now that I'm not so sure it could work. Maybe if they tweaked the character to something a bit different with a different look and name, it could work, but it still wouldn't be as awesome as the original.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Also, rep for anybody who can post a good version of Doink's heel theme in this thread.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I was just watching Doink versus Marty Jannetty in a best two out of three falls match from Raw. Good shit.

[thedamndest]

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[thedamndest]

Also, Doink was way cooler when he had the saggy hair instead of the poofy hair. You could keep tweaking his costume and such to make his wig be different colors.

[Gertner]

babyface doink = booo

Heel Doink= the goods

[thedamndest]

Might as well bring him back now, ride that summer Batman/Heath Ledger wave.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Crap, I just repped thedamnedest.

[thedamndest]

YOU BEST DO IT AGAIN

[Anybody Thrilla]

I will later. PROMISE.

Anyway, I remember being absolutely shocked when he beat down Crush with that fake arm when I was a kid. I had no clue he was going to be a wrestler. Also, he used to scare me.

[thedamndest]

The two Doinks at WM IX was probably the highlight of the show.

[Anybody Thrilla]

God, what a shitty Wrestlemania.

[Hanso Amore]

I had just watched IT, and then the next morning Doink was on Superstars for the first time......












Fucking Clowns are creepy.


What an amazing gimmick, I honestly wouldnt have minded a Heel Doink vs Face Bret title program.

Another dropped ball by early 90s WWE

[thedamndest]

Maybe even just put Charlie Haas under the Doink mantle; after years of not getting over he loses his mind and snaps into Doink.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Yeah, but he could be an edgier, Heath Ledger Doink as opposed to a goofier (yet still dangerous) Jack Nicholson Doink. I'd be all for that. He's already started losing his mind with the luchadore mask gimmick.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Also, I heard Matt Borne played a psycho version of himself/Doink in ECW called Borne Again where half of his face was painted like Doink and the other half was not painted. I would LOVE to see footage of that in action. Anybody know where I could find it?

[Theo Dious]

I dunno, they've made such a mockery out of the character now that I'm not so sure it could work. Maybe if they tweaked the character to something a bit different with a different look and name, it could work, but it still wouldn't be as awesome as the original.

They've...

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...they've made a mockery...


...out of a wrestling clown.

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...and if it weren't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Quiet you. I'm talking about how they've brought Doink back so many times as a joke, when back in the day, he was actually a credible threat whom could be taken as seriously as a clown could. Are you familiar with his heel work from his first run by any chance?

[Super V]

The Stump Puller was the most badass submission move. It's amazing no one else has ever done it on TV.

[Fabien Barthez]

I remember he used to laugh into the camera, then it would slowly become crying, and the camera would tip. Creepy shit. It was a great heel gimmick, and he had some of the better storylines during his heel time. Then he turned into an actual clown and, well nobody enjoyed actual clowns when they were younger anyway....

What was his finisher? The Whoopee Cushion, maybe? Was is ass first into a guy off the top ropes?

[Anybody Thrilla]

The Whoopie Cushion was his face finisher where he would jump off the top rope and land on a fallen opponent's chest, ass first. The Stump Puller was his heel finisher which was a submission where he would sit on his opponent's shoulders, grab one of his legs, and pull it up over his head. Sometimes he would fall to the mat himself for added effect. It was pretty awesome.

[Fabien Barthez]

Oh, right.

Thanks.

I'll really have to youtube some Doink matches. I only remember the storylines and the gimmick, none of his ring work.

Any recommended matches?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Versus Marty Jannetty in a two out of three falls match on Raw from 1993.

I'm watching him versus Kamala right now.

[Anybody Thrilla]

This feels ridiculous. I'm going through all of the episodes of Raw in order and watching only Doink matches right now.

[NeanderCarl]

Maybe if they tweaked the character to something a bit different with a different look and name, it could work

http://www.toruiwaya.com/images/productimages/1976-Pierrot-88D95.jpg

[Anybody Thrilla]

He had a King of the Ring qualifier with Mr. Perfect too, which was also good.

[Fabien Barthez]

Now, that I have on VHS.

I have no VCR.

[NeanderCarl]

He had a King of the Ring qualifier with Mr. Perfect too, which was also good.

Make that three. Two of them were no decisions.

Good series.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Amazing finish to the match with Kamala....Doink comes to the ring carrying a gift wrapped box. He teases Kamala with it at the beginning of the match, but snatches it away. Doink sets the gift down in a corner, and when Kamala goes to reach for it, Doink attacks him. The gift is all but forgotten about until Kamala knocks Doink out of the ring. Kamala follows Doink outside of the ring and Doink runs around the outside until he's back by the gift. He gives the gift to Kamala finally, and while Kamala's opening the gift, Doink slides back in the ring while the referee counts Kamala out and Doink laughs his ass off in the ring.

There's a little spot after that where Kamala extracts a slight modicum of revenge, but Doink still got the duke. Love it.

[Fabien Barthez]

I'm sure I remember that.

Not suprising really, since I used to watch WWF regularly during his tenure.

[thedamndest]

I think I remember Bobby Heenan mocking Kamala at the gift thing.

[Loose Cannon]

yes, he was the man. And no, please do not bring back heel Doink because heel Doink was nothing without Borne behind the makeup. The guy was perfect for the whole. He was an old school veteran at that time working a lot of the territories before and he understood pyscology. Nobody expected the character to get over like it did. Borne took a stupid clown gimmick and turned it into something with multiple dimensions. When you watch the match, look at all the little things Matt does before, during and after the match. I loved how he would smile and laugh walking down the isle and then when he got real close to the camera, he would stare you right in the face with that evil grin.

Borne was tremendous. Unfortunately, he was so good that the fans started cheering him and that was it. Well that and his drug habits.

The Classic Superstars line is releasing the Heel Doink figure as part of the next lineup btw

[Blitz]

Amazing heel, yeah.

I'd like to see a modern day evil/demonic clown gimmick.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Doink was the mother effing man. Look at how over he is with the crowd in this video.

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[Vastardikai]

What everyone in this thread has said. His theme, his personality, and his matches made the whole thing work.

I'd like to see a modern day evil/demonic clown gimmick.

We already had one, but the Eugene heel turn kind of fell flat.

:shifty:

[Juan]

Wow, I had forgotten what a good wrestler the original Doink was. Pretty cool :y:

(PS. 1000th post!)

[Ninti the Mad]

why so serious?

[Theo Dious]

Doink was the mother effing man. Look at how over he is with the crowd in this video.

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The best part of that video was Heenan fucking with Jerry Lewis at the beginning.

[D Mac]

babyface doink = booo

Heel Doink= the goods

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'm sorry to bump this thread. I really am. The thing is, I remember talking about Doink in the start-up thread for the Worst Themes tournament, and I thought that some people could use a good look at the legend known as Doink.

Doink the Clown WAS the mother fucking man.

OK, see you guys later.

[Leonard Washington]

Yeah Doink = Win.

I'm pissed that the version of him in SvR09 is mostly the face version.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Don't they have him aligned has a heel, though?

[Afterlife]

I was unaware that he was in SvR09.

[Leonard Washington]

I'm not sure if he is aligned as a heel but his moveset is mostly face.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I was unaware that he was in SvR09.

He was part of the DLC pack with Earthquake, The Bushwackers, etc.

[Leonard Washington]

He was part of the DLC pack with Earthquake, The Bushwackers, etc.

etc = Vader

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'm still waiting for the Vader Santa's Little Helper attire pack. :naughty:

Anyway, DOINK FOR LIFE. If you disagree, I will hate you forever.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I guess I should go find some Doink videos to justify this. BRB.

[Anybody Thrilla]

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[Anybody Thrilla]

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[Anybody Thrilla]

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[Anybody Thrilla]

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[thedamndest]

That Kamala video is one of the saddest finishes in pro wrestling.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I thought it was beautiful.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Oh wow, I should have watched that video. I was looking for the finishe with the empty gift box.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

How did Doink actually go from being the awesome heel evil clown to the regular face with midget clown?

[Anybody Thrilla]

He started getting huge pops from the crowd so they had him start playing pranks on heels, and voila. Watered down as fuck. One Christmas season, Santa Claus stopped by Superstars and awarded Doink a present for being good that year in the form of Dink. I can't really pinpoint when Doink went from Matt Borne to Ray Apollo, but I really wish things would have worked out with Borne. The things that could have been....

[Nicky Fives]

Maybe even just put Charlie Haas under the Doink mantle; after years of not getting over he loses his mind and snaps into Doink.

makes sense.... I'd love to see it

[HeartBreakMan2k]

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Have always, and will always love that promo.

[NoRoolz]

I still think Doink could be made a legit threat. Just have him return as face and be gayass face doink for 6 months or so, get him over with kids and shit, then have him team up with a really over babyface against two heels and just have him snap and go evil-clown all over the babyface's ass and the heels too, why not.

Bring back Doink.

[Blitz]

Pretty surprised that in the wake of the success of the Dark Knight, Vince didn't try and suit up an "edgy" evil clown gimmick.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Rey Mysterio dressed up like The Joker at Wrestlemania, if that counts.

[Triple Naitch]

I found the finish of the Kamala match very entertaining. I've never seen anyone use that kind of chair before.

[The Mask]

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i remember back when i had a wwf sticker book way back in the day this match was a huge deal because crush got screwed :'(

[Anybody Thrilla]

Screwed? Noooo. Pineapple Head simply was outsmarted by a crafty veteran.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Or two.

[D Mac]

Yeah I remember I was pissed when I saw that because I was a huge Crush mark, but now I look at it and laugh.

[Leonard Washington]

This thread is awesome but I legit got neg rep from someone claiming Doink isn't in SvR09 lol.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Wow, who would do such a thing? It better not have been Diesel Mac. I'll sort him out for you.

[CSL]

Was gonna make a thread about Doink but figured I'd check for one first. I've spent the last hour or 2 watching all the footage of him from his TV debut playing pranks, through his first TV match up until he wrestled Bossman a few weeks after he attacked Crush, so ridiculously good. With wrestling the way it is nowadays, I doubt we'll ever see a character built so slowly and brilliantly again. I mean, it was over 2 months before they revealed a name for him and 3 months before he even wrestled on TV. Glorious. If you're one of those people that never really saw Doink/just assumed it was a shit gimmick because it's a clown in wrestling, you really should watch the vids.

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[CSL]

And I posted the guys account in the 100,000 replies thread but there are a bunch of amazing videos, feud/story recaps from mostly 1992, stuff like Bret's first title reign, Warrior/Shango, some immense Flair/Perfect promos in the Warrior/Savage Summerslam 92 build and a bunch more. Literally been sitting here for the last 3-4 hours watching vids on his account.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I think this thread should be bumped once a year so we can always remember Doink. I'm gonna watch all of those videos RIGHT NOW.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I love how they would just casually show him in the crowd and pass him off as a big fan. They'd show him like ONCE in the crowd, and you wouldn't hear about him for the rest of the show. I had NO idea he'd eventually be a wrestler.

[Razzamajazz]

I think this thread should be bumped once a year so we can always remember Doink. I'm gonna watch all of those videos RIGHT NOW.


december 6 is now the doinkaversary

[Anybody Thrilla]

I like the sound of that.

[Theo Dious]

http://www.net4tv.com/voice/graphics/story/58_kiss.jpg

[Rollermacka]

I would LOVE to see Doink (Matt Borne) and Goldust be a heel tag team together for a few matches on RAW. Matt still wrestles on the indy circut, and has been clean for awhile. I dont think PG TV would allow an evil clown's sinister pranks and The Bizarre One's quasi-sexual mind games, but we can always hope.


Side Note, I'm glad Goldust isnt doing that stupid studdering gimmick anymore and is alittle more heelish.

[MIZantine Empire]

i met doink at an icw wrestling show in Ft Huachuca Arizona (stole a sign, and noticed they spelled wrestling wrong, spelled it wresling) anywho, i doubt it was the real doink, but it was doink none the less, the show also had the patriot and the barbarian (who was wearing his wcw shirt) i think this was back in 2000. i suppose there is no point to this story, other then meeting some type of doink, lol

[Tommy Gunn]

I had just watched IT

That movie is why I can't handle clowns, let alone a heel clown.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I would LOVE to see Doink (Matt Borne) and Goldust be a heel tag team together for a few matches on RAW. Matt still wrestles on the indy circut, and has been clean for awhile. I dont think PG TV would allow an evil clown's sinister pranks and The Bizarre One's quasi-sexual mind games, but we can always hope.

Doink's entire run was during a "PG Era". It just wasn't labeled as such.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

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[Anybody Thrilla]

Who the fuck was that fake ass, pussy Doink? He should have clocked that guy.

[Rollermacka]

Doink's entire run was during a "PG Era". It just wasn't labeled as such.

Could you see Matt Borne and Dustin playing the original characters in WWE today? (I know Matt is pretty old but maybe for some gimmick matches)

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There is alot of fake Doinks running around on the indy circut but this guy is nothing like the real thing. I would have laughed my ass off if that old vet had busted his face open

[Rollermacka]

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GOD, Matt still has it

[Swiss Ultimate]

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[ooTin]

Doink vs. Goldust!

[itsmeJD]

Doink was tha shit....then they ruined it with the 4 Doink Survivor series where as a kid I was subjected to a 500 lb Mable Doink....

[Rollermacka]

Wow, check out this "Doink" :roll:

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Some people arent even trying

[dingdongyo]

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GOD, Matt still has it

that was friggin great. he looks like a fat retired truck driver with bad teeth in a doink costume, but when he sells it like that, it doesn't matter. nobody is playing the tortured soul like this anymore.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Wow, check out this "Doink" :roll:

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Some people arent even trying

Why would they even dress up "like Doink" and not even do anything in-character? Seems like a waste.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Big Show reminded me of how much talent Doink had.

[Jimmy King]

Big Show reminded me of how much talent Doink had.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XUygxGbQBA&feature=related

[CSL]

Was gonna make a thread about Doink but figured I'd check for one first. I've spent the last hour or 2 watching all the footage of him from his TV debut playing pranks, through his first TV match up until he wrestled Bossman a few weeks after he attacked Crush, so ridiculously good. With wrestling the way it is nowadays, I doubt we'll ever see a character built so slowly and brilliantly again. I mean, it was over 2 months before they revealed a name for him and 3 months before he even wrestled on TV. Glorious. If you're one of those people that never really saw Doink/just assumed it was a shit gimmick because it's a clown in wrestling, you really should watch the vids.

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last sentence is still true

[#BROKEN Hasney]

It's true. Face turn was horrible, but the original was fantastic.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Was a nice touch that Show acknowledged Borne's talent in a round about way.

[Damndirty]

So with Sting wearing the Joker's facepaint, does that make him a clown wrestler too?

[Sepholio]

Doink was the man. I miss the hell out of him.

I wonder how many people have a fear of clowns from watching heel Doink when they were little.

[Rollermacka]

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He even mentions all the imposters in this vid (I might go to that show just to meet him)

Was a nice touch that Show acknowledged Borne's talent in a round about way.

I must have missed it, can somebody post the vid of Show mentioning Matt Borne/ Doink?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Basically said that Brodus makes an arse of himself all the time, much like Doink. The difference being that Doink had talent.

[Keith]

In today's WWE PG landscape, where it's very kid-friendly, heel Doink would fit in perfectly. A feud between John Cena (the guy kids look up to) and an "evil" clown, would be really good. It'd sell some tickets.

[Triple Naitch]

Half of the first disc of the Monday Night Raw Season 1 DVD is all Doink. Fucking loved it.

[Damndirty]

It would've been fucked up to see what they could've done with Doink in the Attitude Era. His signature would be Beetlejuice's crotch honk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrMiCYi7I00</EMBED>

[Heisenberg]

Miss the 90's heel Doink and Dinks.
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j440/Marc_Oxenreider/08.jpg

[Anybody Thrilla]

Seems like a good time to bump this.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I never saw Doink the Clown since I wasn't into wrestling at the time. Watching some of this stuff is great. Bringing in an evil clown character, providing someone could actually play it, would be tremendous.

[Skippord]

I just feel bad that his girlfriend is going to have to have sex with the Brooklyn Brawler now

[GD]

Easily one of my favourite characters from the '90s. Rest in peace, Mr. Osborne.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Wow, was gonna say...I didn't even know he was dead. Now I know it's because it only happened yesterday...so sad...RIP :(

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