NHL 2008 Off Season Thread

[El Fangel]

Might as well get her started.

Which team is going to shock us next year, got a feeling Tampa will open up a bit more, getting Stamkos.

[Blitz]

LEAFS!

Obviously there needs to (and will) be some major re-construction over the summer. Rumour is Ron Wilson will be our next coach, but I tell ya, I'd like to see Tortorella get the job. Even if we lose every game, he'll be entertaining enough.

Kubina's gonna be gone. Sundin maybe (swear to God, if he signs with another team after refusing to be traded, I will hate him). Tucker, I wouldn't be surprised. McCabe, I hope so. Prolly a couple of the younger guys at least, I'd bet Stajan and Wellwood.

My God, it'd better be a whole new team come fall :-\

[Skippord]

Tony Granato will be hoisting Lord Stanley's Cup next year

[Stickman]

Pens win it next year. And the Leafs will still suck.

[LoDownM]

Pens win it next year. And the Leafs will still suck.

Agreed!

[Stickman]

Funny how Ron Wilson hasn't taken the job yet.

[El Fangel]

I wonder if the Pens will sign Hossa to a contract if he is willing, I mean he was pretty stellar for them throughout the playoffs.

[Gertner]

LEAFS!

Obviously there needs to (and will) be some major re-construction over the summer. Rumour is Ron Wilson will be our next coach, but I tell ya, I'd like to see Tortorella get the job. Even if we lose every game, he'll be entertaining enough.

Kubina's gonna be gone. Sundin maybe (swear to God, if he signs with another team after refusing to be traded, I will hate him). Tucker, I wouldn't be surprised. McCabe, I hope so. Prolly a couple of the younger guys at least, I'd bet Stajan and Wellwood.

My God, it'd better be a whole new team come fall :-\

The league asked the Leafs not to announce the hriing of wilson until the playoffs were done. I like Kubina and I hope he comes back. He got too much grief ala Hal Gill who I thought never should have been dealt. Stajan is going to be toronto's next captain so he'llbe back. Wellwood is gone, McCabe is gone, Sundin SHOULD be gone, Tucker will probably be gone, and I wouldn't be surprised if blake is dealt. Raycroft obviously won't be back so hopefully the leafs promote Pogge.
As for the draft, Filiatov might fall to the leafs because of the trouble nhl teams have getting players from russia. If not him, I'd like the Leafs to take Beech.

[Stickman]

Don't the leafs have like 15 no trade clauses?

[Gertner]

The leafs are going to buy them out.

[Blitz]

Kubina's no trade clause is off for like the first week or 2 of July I think, so I'm sure he'll be dealt.

I hope they don't bring up Pogge. Let him mature a couple more years. Toskala is a good starter, and Raycroft is ok as a backup.

[LoDownM]

I wonder if the Pens will sign Hossa to a contract if he is willing, I mean he was pretty stellar for them throughout the playoffs.



Dunno. Pens have a shit ton of free agents this year, and atleast half the list was a huge part of the run this year. If they do try to resign Hossa, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a 1 year deal.

All teams free agent list: http://hockeyworld.wordpress.com/2008-nhl-free-agents/

[Zen v.W.o.]

The Habs are poised to run rampant upon the east and soon the west as well.

Just need that big power forward.

[El Fangel]

Shit, looks like the Pens are are going to have a hellish off-season, I seriously doubt we will see the same team that went into the playoffs, but in my opinion, they NEED to keep Malone, Hossa, and Fleury at the least.

[LoDownM]

This line(from the link below), "Among the least likely to return are Malone and Orpik," makes me furious :rant:

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?articleid=365434&page=NewsPage&service=page

[El Fangel]

The fuck? Malone is gold, Orpik is alright, but the fuck?

[Skippord]

Maybe the Avs won't have such a good time

[Gertner]

Kubina's no trade clause is off for like the first week or 2 of July I think, so I'm sure he'll be dealt.

I hope they don't bring up Pogge. Let him mature a couple more years. Toskala is a good starter, and Raycroft is ok as a backup.

lookwhat montreal did with price, what pittsburgh did with fleury, we need to bring him up. Raycroft was AWFUL. Kubina in my opinion was our best second half d man. i want him back.

[Blitz]

Yeah. Price worked out. Fleury's good now, but the first time he was brought up was another story. Don't wanna shellshock Pogge.

[El Fangel]

Heard a rumor today that Sundin may possibly be traded to the Habs, anyone here this?

[Gertner]

Heard a rumor today that Sundin may possibly be traded to the Habs, anyone here this?

habs would be dumb to trade considering he's an upcoming FA.

And to reply to a privious post, Tampa is going to be in shanbles. Horrible ownership, no secondary scoring, no defence, Ramo is another year awayand Lecavlier ain't gonna stick around.

[Blitz]

Leafs officially announce Ron Wilson as head coach.

[El Fangel]

Leafs officially announce Ron Wilson as head coach.

:D

[LoDownM]

So Kapanen and Hasek have retired, wonder who else is gonna. Hope Gary Roberts doesn't retire.

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[weather vane]

Tucker isn't going anywhere unless he changes his mind on waiving his NTC. It would make no sense to buy him out. To all you Leaf fans that think there is going to be this big massive player change you are wrong. You will trade and get rid of 3 or 4 guys at the most. Sundin will most likely be back, Tucker ain't going no where, Blake will be dealt, one or both of McCabe and Kubina will be back.

[El Fangel]

habs would be dumb to trade considering he's an upcoming FA.

And to reply to a privious post, Tampa is going to be in shanbles. Horrible ownership, no secondary scoring, no defence, Ramo is another year awayand Lecavlier ain't gonna stick around.

So Kapanen and Hasek have retired, wonder who else is gonna. Hope Gary Roberts doesn't retire.


Er, sign him, my bad.

LodownM, nearly shit myself when I read that today, I was like no...no...:'(

No I dont have even a goaltender to root for, all my favs are gone mostly, only one left is playing superstar on NJD

I think next year, I will root for the Flames, Cujo and Kripursoph(sp?) FTW

[LoDownM]

Pfft, it's easy to decide which goalie to root for, Marc-Andre Fleury.

[El Fangel]

While I do enjoy Fleury, as he is excellent, I cannot root for a team whose captain I despise (Disclaimer: I dont mind the Pens, I woudl root for them if Crosby was traded)

[LoDownM]

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While Zetterberg is an amazing player, Fleury should have gotten the Conn Smythe. Awesome all playoffs and gave the Pens a chance all Final long.

[Gertner]

Tucker isn't going anywhere unless he changes his mind on waiving his NTC. It would make no sense to buy him out. To all you Leaf fans that think there is going to be this big massive player change you are wrong. You will trade and get rid of 3 or 4 guys at the most. Sundin will most likely be back, Tucker ain't going no where, Blake will be dealt, one or both of McCabe and Kubina will be back.

The leafs are probably gonna buy out a good amount of players. From Wilson's interview he didn't seem too keen on tucker coming back. I think Blake will be gone, McCabe will be gone, Wellwood will be gone and Tucker will be gone. I'd hate to see them get rid of Kubina, although he has a two week window where his NTC isn't in effect so there's a chance he'll be dealt.

[weather vane]

You will read a lot about teams contemplating buyouts over the next two weeks as the NHL's first buyout period opens June 15th.


In Toronto, Darcy Tucker is considered a target - which doesn't make sense.


To buy Tucker out, the Maple Leafs would have to pay out two-thirds of his remaining contract value: $9 million … that amounts to a six million dollar buyout and cap hit for 6 years.


Is the threat of a buyout supposed to scare the 33-year-old Tucker, who scored 18 goals last year, into waving his no-trade? His agent, Carlos Sosa says there is no chance of that happening.


The ongoing speculation Tucker will be bought out would severely undercut any leverage the Leafs have, assuming that is, Tucker had a change of heart and would be willing to move.


With 6 million of Toronto's dollars stashed in his pocket, Tucker would have the financial freedom to consider multiple offers he would be sure to receive from managers eager to bring in his grit and experience at a lower cap hit of say, 1.5 to 2 million dollars.


The San Jose Sharks were among the teams who made a strong play for the Tucker at the deadline, so the arrival of Ron Wilson as the Maple Leafs new head coach could change Tucker's stature in the organization.


Wilson acknowledged at his welcome to Toronto press conference that the Maple Leafs may have to take a step back to go ahead.

Darcy Tucker would be way ahead … financially, if rumor turned to reality.

- TSN

[Zen v.W.o.]

Why would anyone want to get rid of Darcy Tucker??

[Stickman]

Cuz he sucks


Trevor Linden Retires today. 20 years to the day after he was drafted.

[Zen v.W.o.]

That is laughable.

[Gertner]

Tucker doesn't backcheck AT ALL. He's a shadow of his former tough self and the Leafs would be wise to deal him now while they can get something for him.

[Zen v.W.o.]

Yeah well he played injured.

I see him rebounding.

[Blitz]

Everyone rebounds once they leave the Leafs. We deal Raycroft, I bet he wins the Vezina next year.

[weather vane]

Tucker is an awesome player and he will get A LOT of action if he gets bought out. I would love to see him in a B's uniform.

[El Fangel]

Looks like TML is not getting rid of the GM this year.

I have one small annoyance with the coaching change.
You can have the best coach ever on the bench, but he needs good players on the ice.

[Gertner]

Yeah well he played injured.

I see him rebounding.

he's ALWAYS injured. He played poorly when he wasn't.

[weather vane]

Looks like Columbus has got the rights to negotiate with Ryan Malone

[LoDownM]

Fucking awful news :rant:

[El Fangel]

They appear to be trying to keep Malkin and Fleury however, so its not all bad.

And they need to keep Hossa.

[Gertner]

I found the Leafs first round pick

http://profile.ak.facebook.com/v222/259/121/n122702981_724.jpg

Massive upside.

[Stickman]

Canucks sign Ryan Walter as assistant coach. No coaching experience but he's a very smart man with a Stanley Cup ring and 15 years playing experience. He was consulting for the Canadiens powerplay last season and they had the best PP.

[Gertner]

He was an excellent penalty killer in his day.

[Gertner]

Leafs get Jamal Mayers from St.Louis for a 3rd rounder. Toronto had two 3rd rounder so this makes sense since we are lacking grit. I really like this deal.

[IC Champion]

Maple Leafs give the Canadiens permission to talk to Sundin!!

[Blitz]

Mike Cammalleri to Calgary in a 3 way trade between Los Angeles, Calgary, and Anaheim.

[Blitz]

Olli Jokinen to Phoenix for Keith Ballard, Nick Boynton and the 49th pick.

[Mayo]

The Flames are also on the verge of sending forward Alex Tanguay (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=1605) to the Montreal Canadiens for 25th overall pick. The deal has yet to be finalized however as the trade call must still go through :D

[Mayo]

It was just officially announced, Habs traded 25th overall pick this year and 2nd round pick in 2009 for Tanguay and 5th round pick this year. Good move to finally get a 'top' forward!

[Blitz]

Leafs have made a trade with the Islanders, swapping picks 5 and 7.

[Blitz]

Isles trade pick 5 to Toronto for pick 7, and either pick 60 this year and Toronto's 3rd rounder in 09 or pick 68 in this draft and Toronto's 2nd round pick in 09. Phew.

[Blitz]

And Toronto takes Luke Schenn.

[Blitz]

Columbus sends picks 19 and 67 to philly for RJ Umberger and Pick 118.

[Jeritron]

The Bruins have the duty to make some big changes and get Lord Stanley's Cup next season. The city will accept nothing less

[Mayo]

They've been accepting less for... I don't even know how many years since they last won the cup, definitely over 20 tho.

[Jeritron]

Yea, but now they're the only team not delivering. Their ownership and management sucks tho. Why they've done some of the shit they have is beyond me

[Mayo]

JOE THORNTON

[El Fangel]

Looks like the leafs may actually be shaping up some.

[MCEazy]

fuk Selanne and Neids havn't made a decision yet, this better not be like last season :mad:

[weather vane]

Some INSANE trades today. Fuck I love hockey.

[Gertner]

damn, i was hoping the leafs were gonna take filliatov

[YOUR Hero]

The Russian Super League is rumoured to be about to offer Malkin a 5 year 12.5 mil (per season) deal.

****


For years, Russia has balked at entering a transfer agreement with the NHL. Now, it apparently is attempting to lure away one of the league’s biggest stars.

According to a report by the Toronto Star on Friday, several teams in Russia’s new Continental Hockey League are preparing to offer Hart Trophy finalist Evgeni Malkin of the Eastern Conference champion Pittsburgh Penguins a multi-year contract worth at least $12.5 million per season.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=AopnQU611vRis4KJY7tpSCF7vLYF?slug=txmalkinrussia&prov=st&type=lgns

[YOUR Hero]

Other news has Hossa trying to get a deal with the Pens, but he's also open to talking with the Red Wings.

[YOUR Hero]

Listen to this:
Murray said he attempted to trade Emery this week, but couldn’t find anyone interested. “And I wasn’t looking for much,” Murray said.

OTTAWA (AP)—Ray Emery was placed on waivers Friday by the Ottawa Senators, who intend to buy out the goalie’s contract if he isn’t claimed by another team within two days.

Speaking before the NHL draft in Ottawa, Senators general manager Bryan Murray said he had grown tired of the distractions caused by Emery last season, and wanted to “clean the slate” after hiring new coach Craig Hartsburg last week to replace him behind the bench.

After helping the Senators win the Eastern Conference title in 2007, Emery struggled this season and eventually lost the starting job to Martin Gerber in January. He was fined by the team shortly after for arriving late for practice, something he had done several times before.

Emery has two years and $6.75 million left on his contract. If he goes unclaimed, the Senators have the option to release Emery by buying out one-third of his deal.



[...]

[LoDownM]

The Russian Super League is rumoured to be about to offer Malkin a 5 year 12.5 mil (per season) deal.

****


For years, Russia has balked at entering a transfer agreement with the NHL. Now, it apparently is attempting to lure away one of the league’s biggest stars.

According to a report by the Toronto Star on Friday, several teams in Russia’s new Continental Hockey League are preparing to offer Hart Trophy finalist Evgeni Malkin of the Eastern Conference champion Pittsburgh Penguins a multi-year contract worth at least $12.5 million per season.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=AopnQU611vRis4KJY7tpSCF7vLYF?slug=txmalkinrussia&prov=st&type=lgns

If this happens I will go to Russia and stab everyone.

[Gertner]

got Stefanovich in the 4th round. great pick by the leafs.

[MVP]

Hopefully Marian Hossa is in a Bruins uniform next season. :drool:

[LoDownM]

Keep dreaming.

[weather vane]

It is not that big of a long shot LoDownM.

[ClockShot]

Barry Melrose is coaching the Lightning.

And NHL bookie Rick Tocchet is going with him.

[Stickman]

Canucks did absolutly nothing. Other GM's don't want to deal with Gillis because they dislike the guy. Great, just great.

[Zen v.W.o.]

Tucker is now gone. Hello unrestricted free agency.

You can come play for the Habs, Darcy.

[weather vane]

Please come to the Bruins Tucker...

[Gertner]

trust me. you're not getting the tough tucker of 02-03. you're getting the pussified version who doesn't backcheck at all.

[Blitz]

Leafs put Wellwood and Raycroft on Waivers. Wellwood has already been claim by the Canucks.

I'm sad to see Wellwood go. He's got a ton of potential.

[Gertner]

he's fat and he's lazy

[weather vane]

Cliff Fletcher is looking like a HUGE mistake right now.

So far you guys are down Sundin, Tucker, Wellwood and up Mayers... EYL

[Blitz]

lol huge mistake? Everyone knew it was gonna be a fire sale. Can't rebuild without tearing down. Tucker and Sundin free up a bunch of money for us to go after free agents.

[El Fangel]

lol huge mistake? Everyone knew it was gonna be a fire sale. Can't rebuild without tearing down. Tucker and Sundin free up a bunch of money for us to go after free agents.

A bunch? You mean Alot.

I cant wait to see the Leafs next season, with these changes, it could actually make them a contender again. I would like to see them have a powerful young first line, a good second line and third line, and a tough gritty fourth line.

It would be awesome if they could pull off a Penguins line-up like this past year, where their second-line was also a powerhouse, their third good, and fourth line decent.

Also in my opinion what they need is one fucking stellar goaltender, ala prime Hasek, Roy, Or Brodeur

[Blitz]

Every team needs a fucking stellar goaltender. Toskala is fine.

[El Fangel]

Touche, good sire.

Although having one of the above would not hurt.

[LoDownM]

Leafs should sign Emery imo.

[Lara Emily]

A bunch? You mean Alot.

I cant wait to see the Leafs next season, with these changes, it could actually make them a contender again. I would like to see them have a powerful young first line, a good second line and third line, and a tough gritty fourth line.

It would be awesome if they could pull off a Penguins line-up like this past year, where their second-line was also a powerhouse, their third good, and fourth line decent.

Also in my opinion what they need is one fucking stellar goaltender, ala prime Hasek, Roy, Or Brodeur

You aren't going to get a powerful young first line (well unless young you mean nearing 30) via free agency and the Leafs don't have that many assets to get them via trades.

Pens built their core through 5 years of drafting, signed some solid role players and made a huge trade at the deadline to get what they had. Toronto isn't going to do that in one off season.

Leafs have no First line centre once Sundin leaves, Sundib is also btw the only truly reliable 1rst line centre who is going to be a UFA on July 1rst (There's Forsberg but that guy is an injury on skates). They'll also have trouble getting one via a trade or a RFA unless they are looking at giving up 1rst round draft picks (and I do means picks as in plural) to go along with say Kubina or Kaberle (in terms of a trade). Giving up draft picks btw in the Leafs situation would be beyond fucking dumb. Leafs don't really have a solid second line centre either and while there are a few of them but there if you want to be like the Pens none of them are going to make your second line a powerhouse.

The Leafs are in total fire sale/rebuilding mode. Only chance they get is if a bunch of their kids really really step up or they sign a bunch of guys who all have career years.

[Blitz]

I wouldn't mind us picking up Emery.

[El Fangel]

Lara, I don't mean that's its going to happen this coming season, although I would like to see it, Its not likely to happen, only through mad trading, signing, etc, will they do that, but they need some new younger talent, and well rounded lines before they start to develop power lines.

Blitz, are you serious?

Ah well, If he is at least on the ice when the puck drops its fine. :lol:

[Gertner]

I wouldn't mind us picking up Emery.


We should bring up Pogge and give him 25-30 games backing up Toskala instead of wasting cash on a back-up.

[Gertner]

Cliff Fletcher is looking like a HUGE mistake right now.

So far you guys are down Sundin, Tucker, Wellwood and up Mayers... EYL

We didn't win with those guys. Time for the leafs to let go of the past.

[weather vane]

It makes NO sense to get rid of those 3. There should be a change in Toronto but a young guy like Wellwood should be included. Also every Leaf fan I have ever talked to doesn't want Mats gone. Tucker was your heart and soul. Get rid of plugs like McCabe, Kubina, Raycroft...

[El Fangel]

Vinnie got singed to a 7 year, 77 million deal with Tampa.

Good idea on their part in my opinion.

Also saw Darcy Tucker on the local news commenting on not playing with Toronto next season, he was playing Golf :lol:

[Gertner]

It makes NO sense to get rid of those 3. There should be a change in Toronto but a young guy like Wellwood should be included. Also every Leaf fan I have ever talked to doesn't want Mats gone. Tucker was your heart and soul. Get rid of plugs like McCabe, Kubina, Raycroft...

Kubina was our best d man in the 2nd half. Other LEaf fans don' want sundin gone because they have this delusional thought that we can contend for the cup still.

Tucker has lost it man. He's my 2nd fav player behind Wade Belak(don't ask), and even I had to admit it that he isn't the same player that he used to be.

Wellwood is lazy as shit, doesn't backcheck, can't take faceoffs gets lost out there sometimes.

[MCEazy]

Woo Neids is back! :D

[Gertner]

lol I never realized how young Scotty still is. I can't believe he'd consider retiring at such a young age, although he's accomplished everything he pretty much can as a player.

[weather vane]

nieds is mintttt

and Gertner Tucker has had one bad season ... that is all. Gretzky would have a bad season with that team and the injuries. He is great role player especially for a guy like Ron Wilson. We will see what pans out though. I can see getting rid of some of these guys if you are getting something back but fuck, might as well tank the year and get Tavares.

[Gertner]

Tucker hasn't had this same "fire" in years. He started scoring a decent amount and figured that now since he's a "goal scorer" he doesn't need to play tough.

And you don't pay role players 3 million a season(stupid Fergie).

[MCEazy]

lol I never realized how young Scotty still is. I can't believe he'd consider retiring at such a young age, although he's accomplished everything he pretty much can as a player.

I know, he can easily play another 3-5 seasons.

[The CyNick]

Cliff Fletcher is looking like a HUGE mistake right now.

So far you guys are down Sundin, Tucker, Wellwood and up Mayers... EYL

I disagree.

Losing those guys, even Sundin, wont hurt the team at all, it will help them. With those guys in the lineup we were a terrible team.

With them out we free up cap room, and we allow young guys to get a chance to actually play. For years the Leafs have been full of vets and young guys who crack the lineup get very little chance to play.

Now, we havent drafted well, so its not like we had tons of great prospects waiting in the wings to take spots, but it was never really an option then. Now it is.

And the fact of the matter is, this team was never going to win ANYTHING. At best you could hope for squeeking into the playoffs and then losing to an upper end team in the 1st rd.

For the team to get to the point where they can contend for the Cup, they need to be bad for a year or two, and I mean really bad. If losing Tucker, Sundin, Wellwood and whoever else makes us the worst team in the league this year. I say great, we get a better chance at Tavares next summer.

The way the team was headed they were getting very few top end prospects and they were filled with aging vets. Fletch has started to change the makeup of the team, and yes it might mean they take a step back, but it also means they put themselves in a better position for 2-3 years down the road than they were under the previous regime.

[El Fangel]

Sundin still has not talked to Montreals GM, only 4 more days until he is a Leaf no longer.

[Zen v.W.o.]

I still dont see where people are saying Tucker doesnt play tough any longer. From what I saw, he was the only guy playing tough on the Leafs for the past two seasons. The smallest guy on the roster pretty much, fighting every guys battles, especially when Belak was sitting, or not doing his job.

Of course that eventually had to catch up to Tucker, but hey, the fighting through injury happened, he's a warrior, always has been, and he'll be better next season, and I hope proves many doubters how wrong they were.

[Zen v.W.o.]

Sundin still has not talked to Montreals GM, only 4 more days until he is a Leaf no longer.

I dont think we're gonna get him.

[Bad News Gertner]

Well Frank it appears that the Leafs.....wil be falling this year.


YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

[LoDownM]

So Joe Sakic. Think he'll resign with the Avs or retire?

[Zen v.W.o.]

He re-signs. Bank on it.

[weather vane]

I disagree.

Losing those guys, even Sundin, wont hurt the team at all, it will help them. With those guys in the lineup we were a terrible team.

With them out we free up cap room, and we allow young guys to get a chance to actually play. For years the Leafs have been full of vets and young guys who crack the lineup get very little chance to play.

Now, we havent drafted well, so its not like we had tons of great prospects waiting in the wings to take spots, but it was never really an option then. Now it is.

And the fact of the matter is, this team was never going to win ANYTHING. At best you could hope for squeeking into the playoffs and then losing to an upper end team in the 1st rd.

For the team to get to the point where they can contend for the Cup, they need to be bad for a year or two, and I mean really bad. If losing Tucker, Sundin, Wellwood and whoever else makes us the worst team in the league this year. I say great, we get a better chance at Tavares next summer.

The way the team was headed they were getting very few top end prospects and they were filled with aging vets. Fletch has started to change the makeup of the team, and yes it might mean they take a step back, but it also means they put themselves in a better position for 2-3 years down the road than they were under the previous regime.

It free's up cap how? Wellwood cost little to nothing so there was very little risk in keeping him. Sundin is your captain and you are never going to find a guy who will play harder for you guys. For 5.5 that is a steal. Also as I said before it made no sense to buy out Tucker. You are now still paying cap space to him when he was one of the best guys on your team and he will be playing elsewhere. I understand the whole "fire sale" theory but I mean why not get rid of guys that it makes sense to get rid of? Instead Cliff Fletcher got rid of them just for the sake of it? Why not buy out/trade a guy like Blake who is terrible, has cancer, and doesn't even want to be there. How about McCabe, horendous. Get rid of those freaks and clear up some cap space that way.

[Splaya]

Lightning acquire the rights to Ryan Malone and Gary Roberts for a conditional 2009 draft pick. Assuming both play next season that is huge for the lightning

[LoDownM]

:'(

[Heyman]

I've spoken (at length) about this on another hockey message board, but I actually think it would be INGENIUS on Mike Gillis' part if he signed Todd Bertuzzi (who cleared waivers btw....and is now a UFA come July 1st).

The WCE line (Naslund, Morrison, Bertuzzi) can realistically be had for about 9 million dollars in its entirety. If the WCE were to be re-united, all 3 players can go back to playing the same STYLE that they played when the WCE was around in its peak (the last few years, all 3 players have played on line combos/styles of play, that were NOT condusive for their game....I can speak in length on this subject, but I'm pretty exhausted...I've been talking about this all day).

Even if Bert turns out to be a DUD, I think Naslund will be much better with Bertuzzi back (Bert is Naslund's real life best friend, and I think Bertuzzi's departure and Steve Moore incident affected Naslund quite a bit. With a re-united WCE, Naslund will also be allowed to play a high-paced high flying offensive style, where he would be encouraged to carry the puck over the blue line as opposed to "dumping and chasing.")

Long story short - even if Bert comes here and is a dud, I think Bert's presence alone will make Naslund much better.

A re-united WCE would also free up the Sedins' to play on the 2nd line (the Sedin's are medicore 1st line players, but are one of the BEST 2nd line players in the entire NHL). Kesler and Burrows would also get to stay on the 3rd line (these guys are among the best shut down forwards in the league).

For 9 million, the WCE wouldn't be too shabby of an investment. In contrast - a guy like Marian Hossa will command about 8 million all by himself. Ryan Malone will probably command about 5 million. If the Canucks can get the WCE at 9 million, they would still have enough cap space to add a few more ingredients (i.e. get a decent linemate for the twins, or add some key elements on their 3rd/4th lines or their 'D').

People might automatically assume that Naslund and Bertuzzi are washed up, but remember......a lot of people thought the same thing about Teemu Selanne a few years ago (a player that is older than both Nazzy and Bert).

Once upon a time back in 1997, people thought Pavel Bure was washed up as well...before he came back with a vengeance and had back to back 50 goal seasons.

[road doggy dogg]

So angry right now.
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[weather vane]

The Lightning have made some DEALS. They are easily the favourite out of the Southeast. Malone, Vrbata, STAMKOS, Prospal, Roberts... also look for them to get Kolzig today

- Cujo back to Toronto as the back up.

- Pitkanan to Carolina for Erik Cole

...some big ones coming!!!

[Zen v.W.o.]

Still not impressed at all with Tampa.

Relying on unproven goalies. Shaky D.

As for their signings....Malone can be a bust, he isnt worth what they handed him. Overrated.

Roberts is done. The guy is also injured all the time.

They'll be a tad better but cant even compete yet with Washington and probably even Carolina in the SE. Definitely not playoff caliber.

[weather vane]

Wow I totally disagree.

[weather vane]

Tampa signs Kolzig and Adam Hall. They are really shaping up to be a big threat in the East. There biggest problem has always been goaltending and now they have solved that.

Theodore goes to Washington and Andrew Raycroft to Colorado.

[Zen v.W.o.]

The Leafs just got FINGER FUCKED!!!!!

lmao.

They give Jeff Finger(who?) 4 years at 3.5 per.

That's more then what the Habs signed Kostystyn for.

Not only that, but Tucker made that cash, they wanted to buy him out and did....they want to move on....so then they go out and get Finger for the same dough, lol. Plus Tucks is still on the books for a mill per.

Finger???? Really????

Now you all see why the Leafs can never win.

[weather vane]

lol unbelievable

[Blitz]

Who the hell is Jeff Finger.

[Blitz]

Seriously. Never heard of this guy once ever.

[LoDownM]

That's because the Leafs didn't play the Av's this year. He's younger and not awful. Exactly what the leafs needed.

[LoDownM]

Just glad the Pens signed Dupuis. Now Hossa just needs to agree to a deal and one of our lines will still be intact atleast.

[Zen v.W.o.]

That's because the Leafs didn't play the Av's this year. He's younger and not awful. Exactly what the leafs needed.

He is younger yeah, but he's 29 and has only played in like 94 NHL games.

He's not worth that.

[Zen v.W.o.]

Godard to the Pens, so goodbye Laraque, come to the Habs please.

Tucker to the Avs. Good luck darcy.

Huet to the Hawks.

Voros to the Rangers.

The Nucks offer Sundin 10 million per.

[El Fangel]

Bye Mats. We will barely miss you :)

[weather vane]

JUST WHAT THE LEAFS NEEDED? Are you kidding me? 3.5 mil a year? Retarded. 2 mil I could understand but 3.5? Kaberle makes 4.2 mil ... think about that. They have about 22 million committed to defence alone. I thought this was all about starting fresh and freeing up a bunch of cap space?

[LoDownM]

Way to be getting all heated about a team you don't even rout for :roll:

[Blitz]

Fuck Mats Sundin.

[El Fangel]

Fuck Sidney Crosby

[weather vane]

I will kill you.

[IC Champion]

Fuck Sidney Crosby

Fuck you.

[Blitz]

Leafs sign Niklas Hagman. Now there's a move I don't mind so much.

[Mayo]

Tampa signs Kolzig and Adam Hall. They are really shaping up to be a big threat in the East. There biggest problem has always been goaltending and now they have solved that.

Theodore goes to Washington and Andrew Raycroft to Colorado.
Kolzig is old and Mike Smith, even though he has potential, is not the answer. Tampa is just stacking up on forwards, Dan Boyle might be signed by someone else so they have a suspect defence as well. I'm not convinced.

[Mayo]

That Jeff Finger deal was pretty ridiculous as well. Definitely not worth more than 2 million a year

[Skippord]

Jeff Finger is pretty ok

not worth that much money ever though

[Blitz]

Yeah I'm not so much mad about him not being a well known player as I am about the amount of money we're giving to a guy with one full year in the NHL.

[weather vane]

Leafs are retarded. Hagman is alright though.

[weather vane]

Kolzig is old and Mike Smith, even though he has potential, is not the answer. Tampa is just stacking up on forwards, Dan Boyle might be signed by someone else so they have a suspect defence as well. I'm not convinced.

Kolzig has never had a team in front of him, he will thrive in Tampa. Dan Boyle is signed long term to the Lightning so I have no idea what you are talking about unless you mean a trade? They have great special teams and can score a lot of goals, this will be a VERY competitive team.

[Mayo]

Kolzig has never had a team in front of him, he will thrive in Tampa. Dan Boyle is signed long term to the Lightning so I have no idea what you are talking about unless you mean a trade? They have great special teams and can score a lot of goals, this will be a VERY competitive team.
Sorry I may have been wrong about Boyle, I thought I heard something about a possible trade then maybe.

I agree that they will definitely be scoring a lot, they just need to improve their defensive game a lot. Plus Kolzig is pushing 40, I think he's been a good goalie in the past but hes winding down his career at this point.

[Mayo]

The Boston Bruins have agreed to terms with winger Michael Ryder (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=1058) on a three-year deal at $4 million per season.

lol Spilchuk

[Skippord]

Pretty psyched about the re signings of Adam Foote and John-Michael Liles

[Blitz]

Michael Ryder is only being paid a half mil more than Finger. Fucking so much disgust right now.

[VonErichLives]

so, this Ryder guy any good? or is his the usual over-paid journeyman the Bruins sign to make it look like they're trying to do something?

There's also talk the Bruins are going after Marion Hossa? is there a chance they'll get him and do we really want him?

This is the first off season with Cam Neely as VP, I'm curious if he'll get anything done with this team.

[Kapoutman]

Ryder had a couple of 30 goals years, then got lazy and did nothing. The guy can score when he's right in front of the net as he has a good shot, but don't ask him to carry the puck. He doesn't seem to even know what a pass is, which would be fine if he was good at stickhandling. Which he isn't. The only way to use him is to put him with two superior players and tell him to stay near the goalie.

He's OK, but he's not "4 millions dollars" OK.

[Zen v.W.o.]

He could probably net you another 30 goals playing with a great playmaker/passer in Savard. He's still only 28 and has more left in him, he just had one off year when a lot of young guys on the Habs stepped it up, so he was expendable.

He may not be worth all that cash, but it's sometimes not always about the cash, but what he'll do for you. B's need a finisher. He can do that. They need more goals, that's really all Ryder focuses on.

Dont expect much back checking from him, and sometimes he'll hog the puck, but hey....he's a better skater and player right now than Murray, quite easily, imo.

[Skippord]

ok so apparently the Avalanche are dumb

why in God's name would they let Andrew Brunette go back to the Wild?

[weather vane]

I like the signing a lot actually. He should do really well under Julien again. I like this move. I like our lines for next year. The year after we have Fernandez, Alberts and Murray off the books which will free up $10 million and the cap will go up so we are in good shape.

Lucic - Savard - Ryder
Sturm - Bergeron - Kessel
Axelsson - Krejci - Kobasew
Schaefer - Nokelainen - Thornton

Chara - Ward
Wideman - Stuart
Ference - Hnidy

Thomas
Fernandez

i'll take it...

[Lara Emily]

Kolzig has never had a team in front of him, he will thrive in Tampa. Dan Boyle is signed long term to the Lightning so I have no idea what you are talking about unless you mean a trade? They have great special teams and can score a lot of goals, this will be a VERY competitive team.

Kolzig is on a downward spiral in terms of his skill, he still doesn't have a team in front of him, T-Bay has no D at all.

[road doggy dogg]

WOW WHAT THE FUCK HOSSA

I hate sports right now. FUCKING PENS.
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[weather vane]

Who says Kolzig is on a downward spiral? He had the most wins he has ever had in 5 years, best GAA in 2 years and then he got stabbed in the back by management.

Also Tampa Bay's defence isn't as bad as it looked last year. Without Boyle they are lost but he is back now. Kolzig will do well.

[LoDownM]

WOW WHAT THE FUCK HOSSA

I hate sports right now. FUCKING PENS.
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:mad: :mad: :mad: :rant::rant::mad::mad::mad::mad::rant::rant:

CUZ THE RED WINGS NEEDED MORE TALENT

[LoDownM]

Atleast we signed Malkin to a 5 year extension.

And resigned Orpik :cool:

[Mayo]

yeah fucking Hossa, looks like its another cup in the Motor City. Hossa probably signed a one year deal only for him to win it all once and then get the hell out of that shithole Detroit :lol:

[Splaya]

yeah fucking Hossa, looks like its another cup in the Motor City. Hossa probably signed a one year deal only for him to win it all once and then get the hell out of that shithole Detroit :lol:

I'll take back to back cups no problem.

[Mayo]

Dan Boyle (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=641)'s future in Tampa is very much in play. Sources say the Lighting are close to a deal with three teams, however as many as five teams may be in the mix.

Looks like I was right about a possible trade.

[El Fangel]

Cant believe the Leafs have Cujo, as a backup for 700k

[weather vane]

If Tampa Bay moves Dan Boyle then I take back everything I said about them. Would be a really ridiculous move. Saying that I hope to god the Bruins throw a package at them.

[road doggy dogg]

Signed Fleury to a 7-year, $35 million extension. No-trade clause too or something. Finally some stability.


Picked up Fedotenko and Satan for a year each too. Meh. At least they got some wingers.
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[Lara Emily]

Who says Kolzig is on a downward spiral? He had the most wins he has ever had in 5 years, best GAA in 2 years and then he got stabbed in the back by management.

Also Tampa Bay's defence isn't as bad as it looked last year. Without Boyle they are lost but he is back now. Kolzig will do well.

It was a 0.09 improvement, I'd attribute that to the Caps improving overall his 2.91 is also good for the 3rd worst GAA of his career as a starter. His save % was down and actually was the worst of his career. Which further tells me his GAA being better was less to do with him and more to do with Team Defense.

[Lara Emily]

BWHAHAHAHA Laraque is now a Hab at a price tag of 1.5 million a year, wow.

[LoDownM]

Signed Fleury to a 7-year, $35 million extension. No-trade clause too or something. Finally some stability.


Picked up Fedotenko and Satan for a year each too. Meh. At least they got some wingers.
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Meh, i'd rather them have kept Malone and Roberts.

[Zen v.W.o.]

FUCKING RIGHT!!!!!


Laraque, I love you. Gainey, I love you for making this day so sweet.

Plus big Alex Henry.

Time to put the bitchslap on the Northeast.

[Lara Emily]

Meh, i'd rather them have kept Malone and Roberts.

Uhhh dude Roberts is a 4th liner now days 3rd if he's on a bad team. Fedotenko could be a top 6 forward on the Pens because Malkin and/or Crsby have the ability to make players better. See Malone, Ryan for an example.

[Lara Emily]

FUCKING RIGHT!!!!!


Laraque, I love you. Gainey, I love you for making this day so sweet.

Plus big Alex Henry.

Time to put the bitchslap on the Northeast.

Wait do you know what type of game Laraque actually plays these days?

[Zen v.W.o.]

Wait do you know what type of game Laraque actually plays these days?

Yeah I do.

And I'm happy for it.

[LoDownM]

Naslund is a Ranger.

[Blitz]

Maple Leafs sign Mikhail Grabovski, John Mitchell, and Greg Scott! Stanley, here we come!

[Lara Emily]

Yeah I do.

And I'm happy for it.

So you are happy to have an enforcer who will only fight heavyweights and even then actually hates fighting?

[Zen v.W.o.]

So you are happy to have an enforcer who will only fight heavyweights and even then actually hates fighting?

Well we have others who fight non heavies.....Laraque is being paid to fightthe guys we dont want Komi etc fighting.

Laraque also allows the others to play with less fear and more tenacity. Every guy grew 3 inches and gained 20 pounds of muscle.

[Lara Emily]

Well we have others who fight non heavies.....Laraque is being paid to fightthe guys we dont want Komi etc fighting.

Laraque also allows the others to play with less fear and more tenacity. Every guy grew 3 inches and gained 20 pounds of muscle.

If ya say so.

[Zen v.W.o.]

The champ has arrived. Bow down to the King.

[Lara Emily]

The champ has arrived. Bow down to the King.

He barely defends his crown. Seriously man just be careful about how happy you get.

[Zen v.W.o.]

He barely defends his crown. Seriously man just be careful about how happy you get.

You realize why right? he's a by the code guy. He wont assault anyone or go after anyone..he knows he's the big dog in the yard, he keeps an eye on things.

He doesnt get very many challengers, the reason being he'll usually smack them around.

[Heyman]

Wow....Canucks are fucked.

I think I'm going to go hang myself. :nono:

[Lara Emily]

You realize why right? he's a by the code guy. He wont assault anyone or go after anyone..he knows he's the big dog in the yard, he keeps an eye on things.

He doesnt get very many challengers, the reason being he'll usually smack them around.

I'll tell you that he prevented no cheap shots from happening while he was with the Pens

[Zen v.W.o.]

Crosby whines way too much so Georges was all like fuck that little shit, it's time to grow up.

[Gertner]

Maple Leafs sign Mikhail Grabovski, John Mitchell, and Greg Scott! Stanley, here we come!


Leafs traded for Grabovski, and don't put him down, he's gonna be a great player.

[Gertner]

Kolzig is old and Mike Smith, even though he has potential, is not the answer. Tampa is just stacking up on forwards, Dan Boyle might be signed by someone else so they have a suspect defence as well. I'm not convinced.


kolzig and smith are just holding the fort down until Kari Ramo arrives, which could be this year.

[Gertner]

I like the signing a lot actually. He should do really well under Julien again. I like this move. I like our lines for next year. The year after we have Fernandez, Alberts and Murray off the books which will free up $10 million and the cap will go up so we are in good shape.

Lucic - Savard - Ryder
Sturm - Bergeron - Kessel
Axelsson - Krejci - Kobasew
Schaefer - Nokelainen - Thornton

Chara - Ward
Wideman - Stuart
Ference - Hnidy

Thomas
Fernandez

i'll take it...

Lucic ain't playing on your top line bud.

[Gertner]

FUCKING RIGHT!!!!!


Laraque, I love you. Gainey, I love you for making this day so sweet.

Plus big Alex Henry.

Time to put the bitchslap on the Northeast.


lol henry is awful man

[Gertner]

You realize why right? he's a by the code guy. He wont assault anyone or go after anyone..he knows he's the big dog in the yard, he keeps an eye on things.

He doesnt get very many challengers, the reason being he'll usually smack them around.


Laraque throws 2 punches and hugs. that's about it.

[Zen v.W.o.]

Nice avatar.

[El Fangel]

Pens got Malkin, thats good.
Toronto looks like they improved their team alot already, and they havent even hit the ice.

Fuck Hossa
and Fuck Sundin too.

[Lara Emily]

Pens got Malkin, thats good.
Toronto looks like they improved their team alot already, and they havent even hit the ice.

Fuck Hossa
and Fuck Sundin too.

Leafs still look like one of the worst teams in the league to me.

[El Fangel]

Leafs still look like one of the worst teams in the league to me.

Did I say they didnt stil look bad? No I said they look alot better then they did. Lots of rebuilding to do, but at least they are putting up the frame.

[Lara Emily]

Did I say they didnt stil look bad? No I said they look alot better then they did. Lots of rebuilding to do, but at least they are putting up the frame.

See that's just it I don't see a frame either.

[Heyman]

If I'm Mike Gillis (Canucks GM for those that don't know), I'm offering Sundin 11.5-12 million (provided that he signs by the end of the week), and Jagr 11.5-12 million (provided that he signs by the end of the week).

INSANE?!? Yes. Are the Canucks in deep doodoo...and need to do something drastic? You're damn right.

Sundin --> 2 yrs @ 11.5-12 million
Jagr --> 2 yrs @ 11.5-12 million

Canucks have the cap space to do it, but time is running out. Canucks are seriously FUCKED right now.

[Heyman]

So Joe Sakic. Think he'll resign with the Avs or retire?

Sakic will re-sign....as will Forsberg. I'm pretty sure.

One guy that MIGHT retire (other than Sundin), is Sergei Fedorov.

[Heyman]

FYI - Rob Blake is now a part of the San Jose Sharks! (1 yr..5 million).

San Jose might rival Anaheim and Detroit, in terms of having the deepest defense now. San Jose was already stacked on 'D' prior to the Blake signing.

p.s. I wonder how many inter-division games the Kings will win this year?! (SJ 8 times, Dallas 8 times, Anaheim 8 times, Coyotes 8 times). :nono::nono::nono:

Kings might be one of the few teams in the league that are more fucked than the Canucks! :eek:

[Mayo]

Yeah WTF Laraque was a little pricey, but at least it adds an enforcer since Kostopoulos isnt THAT intimidating. Getting Marc Denis as a depth goalie, bullshit.

Habs need to sign some good free agents. Rangers sign Naslund and Redden, they are looking serious although Jagr may be leaving.

[weather vane]

Lucic ain't playing on your top line bud.

k?

[Mayo]

kolzig and smith are just holding the fort down until Kari Ramo arrives, which could be this year.
They tried that experiment with Ramo last year and it didn't work very well. He played well at the start but then kinda fell apart. I don't think that is the way you should develop a young goalie, leaving him high and dry on a shit team. Would have been a better move if they waited to bring him up this year.

[Mayo]

Wow....Canucks are fucked.

I think I'm going to go hang myself. :nono:
This is true right now. They are in MAJOR need of offensive players. Unless Sundin answers their prayers, this season could be even worse than last for their scoring, and puts even more pressure on Luongo.

[LoDownM]

If I'm Mike Gillis (Canucks GM for those that don't know), I'm offering Sundin 11.5-12 million (provided that he signs by the end of the week), and Jagr 11.5-12 million (provided that he signs by the end of the week).

INSANE?!? Yes. Are the Canucks in deep doodoo...and need to do something drastic? You're damn right.

Sundin --> 2 yrs @ 11.5-12 million
Jagr --> 2 yrs @ 11.5-12 million

Canucks have the cap space to do it, but time is running out. Canucks are seriously FUCKED right now.

I have a feeling both of them will retire. Or Jagr will go play in the Czech Republic for next year like Straka.

[Gertner]

They tried that experiment with Ramo last year and it didn't work very well. He played well at the start but then kinda fell apart. I don't think that is the way you should develop a young goalie, leaving him high and dry on a shit team. Would have been a better move if they waited to bring him up this year.

Ramo was playing for a last place team with a terrible defence. Ramo will be starting by the end of the year.

[Gertner]

Yeah WTF Laraque was a little pricey, but at least it adds an enforcer since Kostopoulos isnt THAT intimidating. Getting Marc Denis as a depth goalie, bullshit.

Habs need to sign some good free agents. Rangers sign Naslund and Redden, they are looking serious although Jagr may be leaving.

Kostopolous has won one fight in the past three years, the win being against Ott. Last time I checked his career record in fights was something like 1-23-4

[Gertner]

btw I can't believe Brooks Orpik got that much money. Pretty much based off 1 amazing shift in the finals

[Mayo]

Kostopolous has won one fight in the past three years, the win being against Ott. Last time I checked his career record in fights was something like 1-23-4
so you're agreeing with me then?

[Mayo]

Russian club Avangard Omsk says it has signed Jaromir Jagr, a day after the New York Rangers parted ways with the star winger. Avangard announced the signing on its website today but did not disclose the terms of the contract.

Wow, Naslund will help a little to fill the void, but I think Straka might be leaving too.

[Mayo]

Sources tell TSN Dan Boyle (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=641) has signed his no-trade clause and has agreed to a trade to the San Jose Sharks.
The paper work is now in the hands of the NHL. Pending NHL approval the next step will be the finalization of the deal.
In return for the 31-year old veteran defenseman, it is believed Tampa will receive a package that will include 23-year old defenseman Matt Carle (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=3561), a first round draft pick, a prospect and a 4th round pick.
Sources say defenseman Brad Lukowich (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=192) is also part of the deal going to San Jose.




LMAO so yes Tampa Bay really is retarded. Filip Kuba, Matt Carle, and Paul Ranger will be their stars on defence this year. Sharks finally have two premier defencemen so they are looking like a threat.

[Zen v.W.o.]

Goodbye Jags...you were the greatest.:(

[LoDownM]

Russian club Avangard Omsk says it has signed Jaromir Jagr, a day after the New York Rangers parted ways with the star winger. Avangard announced the signing on its website today but did not disclose the terms of the contract.

Wow, Naslund will help a little to fill the void, but I think Straka might be leaving too.

Straka agreed to go play in a Czech league like 3 weeks ago.

[Mayo]

My bad, so many signings and possible signings that it slipped my mind.

The Buffalo Sabres have traded Steve Bernier to the Vancouver Canucks for a second round draft pick in 2009 and a third round pick the following year.

[Skippord]

Maple Leafs sign Mikhail Grabovski, John Mitchell, and Greg Scott! Stanley, here we come!
GREG SCOTT!!!!

[Lara Emily]

My bad, so many signings and possible signings that it slipped my mind.

The Buffalo Sabres have traded Steve Bernier to the Vancouver Canucks for a second round draft pick in 2009 and a third round pick the following year.

So all the Sabres have to show for Campbell now lol is late 1rst rounder in 08 and then an 09 2nd rounder and a 010 3rd rounder awesome lol

[Zen v.W.o.]

Campbell is overrated.

[Lara Emily]

Campbell is overrated.

True but it;s still hilarious that they don't have a roster player to show for it.

[Kapoutman]

I just want to say that I love Georges Laraque and wanted him in montreal a long time ago. As for Marc Denis, Mayo, don't get worked up, he'll be a Bulldog 4 life.

[Mayo]

I just want to say that I love Georges Laraque and wanted him in montreal a long time ago. As for Marc Denis, Mayo, don't get worked up, he'll be a Bulldog 4 life.
Well with Price, obviously he is the man in Montreal for a long time. Halak is a good goalie too, if he develops into something above average then we could trade him for an upgrade elsewhere.

[Gertner]

Pittsburgh signs Matt Cooke. Good signing for Pittsburgh.

[Y2Ant]

Bertuzzi to the Flames.

:wavesad: Heyman

[Mayo]

Free agent centre Brendan Morrison (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=219) is off the free agent list, as the B.C. native is set to join the Anaheim Ducks. Terms of the impending contract are not known, but it is expected to be a one- or two-year deal.

I think Heyman is seriously gonna commit suicide.

[LoDownM]

Pens signed Finnish forward Janne Pesonen. Hopefully he'll live up to his Finnish Elite league stats in the NHL.

[Gertner]

he'll be another Ville Peltonen

[Mayo]

Canucks may be signing Pavol Demitra soon, this brings some hope to Heyman

[YOUR Hero]

Canucks are trying hard (Gillis) to make some waves right now.

[Gertner]

Canucks may be signing Pavol Demitra soon, this brings some hope to Heyman

lol demitra's quote was the best "I have a clsoe relationship with Gillis and I want to go to a cup contender."

hahaha gonna be hard to contend for a cup when Burrows and Kesler are gonna be on your 2nd line

[Mayo]

I guess his take on it is that a great goalie that can steal you some games has a chance to take you all the way, like New Jersey did a few times. The only difference is the coaching style was much more defensive and they had some studs on defence (Niedermayer and Stevens). Even still, Luongo hasn't been able to carry his team all the way and I doubt it will be enough with so many good teams in the West. Sundin would definitely help the cause though.

[Gertner]

wow, ray emery signs with a russian team

[Stickman]

hahaha gonna be hard to contend for a cup when Burrows and Kesler are gonna be on your 2nd line

But if it's with Sundin...

[YOUR Hero]

That Russian League and the NHL have made an agreement not to try and sign each other players that are under contract.

[Stickman]

Don't ever trust the Russians.

[YOUR Hero]

OH

THOSE

RUSSIANS

[Gertner]

lol and the russians sign alex radulov

[Blitz]

Leafs pick up Ryan Hollweg.

Gotta say, these are not the moves I was hoping for from the Leafs over the summer.

[Stickman]

Canucks sign Demitra....

Flames get Bertuzzi

[Gertner]

Leafs pick up Ryan Hollweg.

Gotta say, these are not the moves I was hoping for from the Leafs over the summer.


hollweg is a good fourth liner. The leafs are lacking grit and toughness and Hollweg will provide that.

[Stickman]

hollweg is a good fourth liner. The leafs are lacking grit and toughness and Hollweg will provide that.

Problem with the Leafs is they lack talent.

[weather vane]

Schedule is out. I like it.

[LoDownM]

Penguins come out here this year :D

[CSL]

Anybody know of anywhere online that has pictures of banners (cups, division, retired numbers etc)?

[Stickman]

Schedule is out. I like it.

It was much better pre lock out. Not seeing every team is gay.

[CSL]

Hasn't it been changed this year? Playing each team from the opposite conference once each, own division/conference a bunch of times and 3 'wild cards'. Or something like that

[Mayo]

Yeah every team plays each other at least once, which is cool.

[Gertner]

wish they did a home and home though

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I don't know what the hell the Wild are doing trading Demitra and Rolston, but least we've got Brunette back. We shouldn't of traded him in the first place.

[Blitz]

Leafs finally get rid of McCabe, trading him to the Panthers along with a 2010 draft pick for Mike Van Ryn.

What's super great about this deal is that Van Ryn has had chronic wrist injuries, and Fletcher was so eager to get rid of McCabe that he didn't even subject him to a physical. :n:

[Mayo]

lol draft pick that they gave up as well. AWESOME

[weather vane]

Did I call that Cliff Fletcher was terrible?

[Blitz]

It's actually kinda good, because my expectations are so low right now that if we finish anywhere outside of dead last, I will consider the season a raging success.

[Skippord]

oh I just remembered

SUPER JOE!!!!!!!

[Gertner]

Van Ryn is a solid defenceman. Hopefully he can stay healthy. This saves the Leafs 11+ million dollars in cap space over the next few years.

and Mayo, it's a friggen 4th round pick.

[Blitz]

I like Van Ryn, but the fact that he is injury prone and wasn't given a physical before the trade really bothers me.

[Gertner]

it was either this or buy out McCabe. just losing his contract is a big plus.

[El Fangel]

One month boys.

[weather vane]

Yeah that was a pretty good trade for Toronto imo.

[LoDownM]

Going to the Penguins/Avs game when they come out here in Jan. :cool:

[El Fangel]

Montreal/Boston and Montreal/Detroit games here, not getting to see either here.

[LoDownM]

Went to the Av's Burgundy/White scrimmage game tonight. Pretty cool for a not-to serious game. Can't wait until Jan. when the Pens are in Denver :cool:

[Mayo]

Schneider finally gets traded to Atlanta for Brad Larsen, Chad Painchaud and Ken Klee.

[Stickman]

Roberto Luongo is the canucks new captain....wtf