Better Wrestler #29

[Jeritron]

Christian just "edged" out a victory against Edge. His first opponent is likely wondering, what about me?


http://a.bebo.com/app-image/6333189206/i.idlestudios.com/img/q/u/08/03/30/ChristianCageSmaller_1197322060.jpg


VS

http://slam.canoe.ca/WrestlingImagesR/raven_ecw2.jpg




<SELECT><OPTION selected>Better Wrestler History<OPTION>RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</OPTION><OPTION>RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</OPTION><OPTION>RVD vs Mr. Perfect (15-23)</OPTION><OPTION>Mr. Perfect vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</OPTION><OPTION>Mr. Perfect vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</OPTION><OPTION>Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</OPTION><OPTION>Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</OPTION><OPTION>Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</OPTION><OPTION>Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</OPTION><OPTION>Eddie Geurrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</OPTION><OPTION>Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</OPTION><OPTION>Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</OPTION><OPTION>Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)<OPTION>John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6-2)<OPTION>John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</OPTION><OPTION>John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</OPTION><OPTION>Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</OPTION><OPTION>Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</OPTION><OPTION>Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</OPTION><OPTION>Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</OPTION><OPTION>Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</OPTION><OPTION>Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</OPTION><OPTION>Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</OPTION>><OPTION>Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)</OPTION></SELECT>


<SELECT><OPTION selected>Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</OPTION><OPTION>Taz</OPTION></SELECT>



Same drill as usual, 3 days. Only now there are no draws. No drawers allowed either



<OPTION selected>

[Kane Knight]

Cap'n Charisma.

[thedamndest]

WHERE IS THE DRAW????

[Afterlife]

Christian by far. Raven was a whiny, dirty boremonger.

[Destor]

<SELECT><OPTION selected>Better Wrestler History<OPTION>RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</OPTION><OPTION>RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</OPTION><OPTION>RVD vs Mr. Perfect (15-23)</OPTION><OPTION>Mr. Perfect vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</OPTION><OPTION>Mr. Perfect vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</OPTION><OPTION>Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</OPTION><OPTION>Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</OPTION><OPTION>Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</OPTION><OPTION>Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</OPTION><OPTION>Eddie Geurrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</OPTION><OPTION>Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</OPTION><OPTION>Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</OPTION><OPTION>Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)<OPTION>John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6-2)<OPTION>John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</OPTION><OPTION>John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</OPTION><OPTION>Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</OPTION><OPTION>Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</OPTION><OPTION>Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</OPTION><OPTION>Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</OPTION><OPTION>Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</OPTION><OPTION>Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</OPTION><OPTION>Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</OPTION>><OPTION>Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)</OPTION></SELECT>

Should we use this one? Like the draws never happend?

[Londoner]

Christian wins easily for me, i like raven but he's nowhere near christians level.

[Afterlife]

It worked for WWE/Benoit.

[Destor]

Raven's promo's alone put him way over Christian for me. On top of that Raven at his best worked a better match than Christian at his best.

[Jeritron]

<SELECT><OPTION selected>Better Wrestler History<OPTION>RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</OPTION><OPTION>RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</OPTION><OPTION>RVD vs Mr. Perfect (15-23)</OPTION><OPTION>Mr. Perfect vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</OPTION><OPTION>Mr. Perfect vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</OPTION><OPTION>Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</OPTION><OPTION>Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</OPTION><OPTION>Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</OPTION><OPTION>Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</OPTION><OPTION>Eddie Geurrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</OPTION><OPTION>Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</OPTION><OPTION>Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</OPTION><OPTION>Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)<OPTION>John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6-2)<OPTION>John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</OPTION><OPTION>John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</OPTION><OPTION>Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</OPTION><OPTION>Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</OPTION><OPTION>Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</OPTION><OPTION>Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</OPTION><OPTION>Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</OPTION><OPTION>Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</OPTION><OPTION>Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</OPTION>><OPTION>Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)</OPTION></SELECT>

Should we use this one? Like the draws never happend?


What draws? ;)

[Afterlife]

Raven's promo's alone put him way over Christian for me. On top of that Raven at his best worked a better match than Christian at his best.

Eeeeeerrrt! Wrong. Next?

[Jeritron]

I could really vote either way in this one. Always have held Raven in high regard. He's likely gonna need the vote more, so he gets it

[Destor]

Eeeeeerrrt! Wrong. Next?

You sir, are insane.

[Porcupine]

<SELECT><OPTION selected>Better Wrestler History<OPTION>RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</OPTION><OPTION>RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</OPTION><OPTION>RVD vs Mr. Perfect (15-23)</OPTION><OPTION>Mr. Perfect vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</OPTION><OPTION>Mr. Perfect vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</OPTION><OPTION>Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</OPTION><OPTION>Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</OPTION><OPTION>Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</OPTION><OPTION>Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</OPTION><OPTION>Eddie Geurrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</OPTION><OPTION>Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</OPTION><OPTION>Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</OPTION><OPTION>Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)<OPTION>John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6-2)<OPTION>John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</OPTION><OPTION>John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</OPTION><OPTION>Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</OPTION><OPTION>Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</OPTION><OPTION>Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</OPTION><OPTION>Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</OPTION><OPTION>Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</OPTION><OPTION>Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</OPTION><OPTION>Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</OPTION>><OPTION>Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)</OPTION></SELECT>

Should we use this one? Like the draws never happend?

You could also go back and remove all of the votes I put into the whole tournament while you're at it.

[Destor]

Ok

[Dorkchop]

Christian Cage. Raven was really interesting at times, but it's not 1998 anymore. When was the last time he did anything really interesting with his Raven gimmick? Every time he tries something, it's just a half ass rip off of something he already did. Plus, Christian is a great wrestler.

[Afterlife]

You sir, are insane.

This has been debated. Raven's Suck Factor is pretty cut and dry. :p

[CSL]

Eeeeeerrrt! Wrong. Next?

Don't mistake funny promos for great ones. Raven is an immense promo guy (well, was) and has already been mentioned, in his prime is probably the better worker. Raven. Just.

[Afterlife]

Don't mistake funny promos for great ones. Raven is an immense promo guy (well, was) and has already been mentioned, in his prime is probably the better worker. Raven. Just.

I'm not. He was about as funny as he was exciting; which is not at all. The most interesting thing he did was nearly die from a chair swung by Tommy Dreamer.

[Pardeep 619]

Christian Cage. Nuff said

[MCEazy]

Christian easily, i've never been bored by him, whereas Raven in WWE....

[The Optimist]

Raven. Easily. I like Christian, but Raven has been one of my favorites since forever.

[Jura]

Raven's a fatty and Christian is balding.

[Destor]

I VOTE DRAW

[Afterlife]

THWARTED!!!

[Theo Dious]

There's a lot of Raven love on these boards, but I never saw him as anything more than a high-midcard guy. Christian on the other hand kicks absolute ass. Christ, who else could have gotten Tomko over as much as Grandma Edna's favorite grandson has?

[Theo Dious]

Now if this poll was Christian vs Johnny Polo...

[Legend Killer]

When it comes to being more successful, I would have to say El Capitano Charisma. I was never a big Raven fan back in the day, aside from his career in the WWE, I didn't get to see him progress in ECW or WCW. So my decision will be very biased.

Christian Cage

[Lock Jaw]

Christian, easily. INSTANT CLASSIC.

[Innovator]

Raven, CMON

[Ruien]

Cage, CMON

[Kane Knight]

I'm kinda shocked to see Christian doing this well, considering how much people tend to fondle Raven around these parts when he's brought up. Of course, I'm not a big Raven fan, whereas I like Christian, so I'm not complaining, just a little surprised. Still, it's early still.

[NoRoolz]

Christian for me.

Too young to have seen Raven's best work, aside from video-tapes. Plus I really like Capt.Charisma anyway.

Those who wanted to vote draw just think of that Waterproof Blonde theme Christian had, or almost any of his themes, and then re-think the question.

[Mercury Bullet]

I like Raven okay, but I think Christian is a notch above him in pretty much all areas.

[James Steele]

The only thing that stopped Raven was horrible booking in WCW and WWE. Christian is an awesome performer, but Edge is better. Edge > Raven > CC

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Raven, hands down. A pinnacle of the original ECW, one of the best minds in the business, and downright hilarious to listen to.

[Heros Welcome]

hmm another interesting match up.

I feel that Raven may be one of the best minds in the business and one of the best workers. WWKD kinda stole my thunder in what I wanted to point out, so I won't bother restating them.

As for Christian he is very very good and if it wasn't for him and AJ on impact I would probably never tune in. He is a great man on the stick and a very good wrestler....

My vote...

RAVEN

[Rammsteinmad]

Christian Cage.

P.S. Couldn't you have used a better picture of him? That one is awful.

[The Optimist]

http://standingsolo.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/christain1.jpg

[El Fangel]

Ra *swerve* Christian

[MCEazy]

http://www.iwcwrestling.com/cage1.jpg

[Londoner]

Ravens good, but i reckon people are being a bit biased here, i just can't see how he's better than christian. Sure,'poor booking' held him back, but its not like christian was ever booked brilliantly or have you raven fans all forgotten that in your biasedness? :roll:

[Impact!]

Tough decision. They're both in my top 10 wrestlers, but right now I'd probably just have to edge out Cage and go with Raven.

[Juan]

Christian wins easily for me, i like raven but he's nowhere near christians level.

[Legend Killer]

Ravens good, but i reckon people are being a bit biased here, i just can't see how he's better than christian. Sure,'poor booking' held him back, but its not like christian was ever booked brilliantly or have you raven fans all forgotten that in your biasedness? :roll:

As I said earlier, my vote was very biased.

[The Optimist]

Lol. You're biased by who you enjoy more. What a concept.

[Legend Killer]

I am surprised how close it is.

[MUSE]

Orton

[Kane Knight]

Lol. You're biased by who you enjoy more. What a concept.Oh God. What a concept indeed.

[thedamndest]

<img src="http://www.gerweck.net/johnnypolo.jpg">

[Destor]

The lack of the draw option has killed the drawing power of better wrestler. Blame The Optomist.

[Legend Killer]

"Quote The Destor Nevermore."

[thedamndest]

<img src="http://sharetv.org/images/thats_so_raven-show.jpg">

[Lock Jaw]

How the hell can anyone vote Raven over Cage? NONSENSERIES AND TOMFOOLERY!

[D Mac]

Went with Cage in terms of wrestling skill. If it was Hardcore, however, Raven would win.

[4 knuckles up]

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Raven- Just not as much as the Cap.

[BigDaddyCool]

What about Me, what about Raven?

[Afterlife]

Ugh. I hated that so much.

[Lock Jaw]

One freaking vote. No way did I expect this one to be that close. Edge/Christian being that close I can see, but not Raven/Christian.

[Legend Killer]

CHECK THIS LINK OUT, I THINK THIS IS WHY THAT LAST GUY VOTED THE WAY HE DID

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4Zwy0m6tHc&amp;feature=related

[Destor]

Christian wins by one vote...AGAIN.