NBA 2008 Off Season Thread

[SammyG]

Post rumors, talk about trades, what you want your teams to get in the draft, and all that good stuff.

Here's hoping to a healthy recovery for Bynum.

[RoXer]

It's so scary turning on the tv every morning, just waiting to see a headline saying: Kobe Bryant traded to "enter team name". Damn. We are gonna be so terrible next year.

Kobe is fucking terrible. I dont care about his wrist. fuck him. trade him.

0-1.

Actually fuck it, trade Kobe. He is a little bitch. He's not trying at all during practice, and didnt show any heart in the preseason games. It's like he just doesnt give a fuck, and it's hurting the team. Rockets-Lake Show tonight!

Bynum wont be a Laker next year. No way he is.

Kobe should retire.

YO WADDING WHERE YOU AT SON. We are for real this year. BYNNUMMM MAMMMBAAA!

In Mamba I trust.

Fuck the Lakers.

Spurs tonight. Huge game.

yea, huge 6th game of the season.

Suns 5-2
Lakers 3-2

I go to the standings on NBA.com expecting to see the Lakers record at 110-2 due to SammyG's ridiculous gloating in this thread

SammyG the one man show

I am. You should see me on the court. So fucking stoked for that win.

There was a bunch more but I can't see them all because my screen is busted and it hurts my eyes.


Post your own! :y:

[Jeritron]

Offseason, hmmm, Celtics can get their rings and banner made up for opening day. First move of the offseason is I'll go to the parade tomorrow. I just think they need a back up point guard and a replacement for PJ Brown, since he's probably retiring, and they should be good to go. Honestly think that if nothing goes wrong, knock on wood, they're going back to the finals.

[SammyG]

Phil Jackson: "We're going to have to make some moves and get some players that are aggressive if we want to get back here next June"

Ship Vlade and Luke out. Mihm too. Maybe L.O, if we can find equal value.

[KingofOldSchool]

Kobe will demand a trade and there will be a week of "KOBE TO CHICAGO FOR THE #1 PICK AND BEN GORDON?!?!" rumors. And then right before the draft Kobe will be all like "I love L.A. and I want to finish my career here."

[Juan]

I can guarantee you that wont happen.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Celtics need to resign Posey and maybe pick up a "true" point guard to back up Rondo. I like House off the bench but hes more of a scorer than a point guard, so yeah. Also it would be cool if they could pick up a serviceable big man to back up Perk, someone who bang in the post and play tough D. C's where pretty lucky to avoid any major injuries all year so their lack of depth at certain positions never really showed, I would like to see them improve on that and not have to depend on last season veteran signings such like they did this year (not really complaining here since it worked, but just something that they could improve on for next year)

I guess people think Gabe Pruitt has a shot at cracking the line up next year, we'll see. I think he only played in a hand full of games this past season, spending most of the year in the D-League.

Drafts comin up in a couple of weeks...who you guys got? I really want the Celts to pick up Bill Walker from K-State with the last pick. A lot of mocks got them taking some foreign dude who isn't expected to play in the NBA for a few years but whatever - don't have to look forward to draft for once haha, can't complain about that

[Juan]

When the Miami Heat let James Posey slip away most people just shrugged their shoulders and kept going about their business. No big deal, right? He was a minor participant for the Heat during their championship run. Then again, his new team is where his old team was, on the verge of winning a championship.

I'm not suggesting that Posey is the sole reason the Celtics are close to adding yet another banner to the rafters of the Garden, but he is the kind of player every championship team needs - the kind the Lakers are lacking at present. Posey is the Jerome Kersey, the Mario Elie, the Tayshaun Prince - the guy who makes the big stop, makes the extra hustle play, and the guy who can also hit a big shot when you need one to help his team get over the hump.

It's interesting, then, that printed reports today have Posey on the Lakers' summer free agency list. Posey took a minimal deal from the Celtics, one of the advantages of which was opt-out language, so that he could show his value and hopefully earn a bigger deal for next season. One option will, of course, be for the Celtics to retain him. It's hard to imagine that they wouldn't if they win a title this week, but if they don't Posey could become the key player for the Lakers next season . . .and possibly help produce a championship for them. Maybe Posey will actually become the next Robert Horry, going from team to team bringing championships in his wake despite most of his work being invisible in the box score. If he wins a title this year in Boston and next year in LA, don't be surprised to see his name come up a lot more often.


LINK
(http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9093)

[Juan]

I doubt the Celts would let him go now. TBH though I dunno where their salary cap stands.

[Juan]

Phil wants stronger players:

apparently, did Jackson, who took the unusual step of threatening roster moves even before the cheering stopped.

"We have to get some players if we're going to come back and repeat, to have that kind of aggressiveness that we need," he said.

So when they return next fall, some of the Lakers might be new.

After this awful farewell, it is hoped that some of them will also be improved.

LINK
(http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-plaschke18-2008jun18,0,5731694.column?page=3)

[SammyG]

Odom might be gone, I'm thinking. Artest to LA would be tremendous.

Also, can this thread please be stickied, mods? Thanks.

[MCEazy]

as much as i hate artest he would be a good fit in LA, we need better D fuk.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Artest is way too much of a mental case I think. I mean I know Phil Jackson did a pretty good job with Rodman but Rodman was a different kind of mental case. I seriously think Artest has some form of mental retardation or something, Rodman was/is just weird as fuck.

[SammyG]

Artest is a perfect three for us though. He is a great defender, and he can be aggressive and shoot. Vlad-Rad will not be a Laker next year, hopefully. Worst starter ever in the Finals, probably.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah while discuss the upcoming Finals series with my friends before it all started none of us could think of who the 3 man was for the Lakers yet we all follow basketball pretty closely lol

Artest would be a great fit with his skill set, but still, have you ever heard the dude talk or any of his interviews or anything? He is straight up retarded, like I feel bad calling him that because I really think he has some sort of mental handicaps or something.

Remember when he told a reporter he didn't fell like playing and was thinking about retiring so he could work on his rap album? :lol:

[MCEazy]

Yeah while discuss the upcoming Finals series with my friends before it all started none of us could think of who the 3 man was for the Lakers yet we all follow basketball pretty closely lol

Artest would be a great fit with his skill set, but still, have you ever heard the dude talk or any of his interviews or anything? He is straight up retarded, like I feel bad calling him that because I really think he has some sort of mental handicaps or something.

Remember when he told a reporter he didn't fell like playing and was thinking about retiring so he could work on his rap album? :lol:

lol i remember that, didn't go so well :lol:

[SammyG]

Hahaha, yes. That was amazing. I listened to some of his tracks. Dude is psycho. Hell, remember the fight in Detroit? Ridiculous. I dunno, though, I kinda want him on my team. Dunno.

[MCEazy]

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lawlz

[Juan]

Ron Artest does a radio show out here for a Sacramento radio show and he really isn't that bad. He's pretty funny.

From what I've heard though, he's not looking to opt out.

[VonErichLives]

yeah, I think since the "Brawl" he's been pretty good.

There is talk the Celtics might go for him and that Danny Ainge tried to get him 2yrs ago...

Gee, one of the best defensive players in the league on the best defensive team in the league...

[KingofOldSchool]

-The Indiana Pacers are trying to dangle the #11 pick in hopes of being able to package it with one of their ugly contracts (preferably Jermaine O’Neal). There is talk out of O’Neal’s camp that he anticipates being trade to Cleveland at some point this summer, possibly in a deal involving expiring contracts such as Wally Szczerbiak and Eric Snow.

The Pacers don’t want to give O’Neal away for nothing, but the temptation of shedding his 23 million dollar contract from their cap figure (giving them substantial cap space to work with in July of 2009) may be too great to pass up. On Cleveland’s end, it makes sense for their ownership to spend the money it will take to try and appease LeBron James and show them they are making the efforts to put together a championship caliber team. We’ve heard rumblings about this Cleveland/Indiana trade from a number of well-informed sources, so there appears to be at least some truth to it.

If Bird even THINKS about trading the 11th pick without moving up in the process, I will find Bird and shove my boot up his ass.

[Jura]

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lawlz
I wish I had been watching that live as it happened. It's one of the highlights of my life. The should have a brawl between the team and the fans every year. I will always remember that Piston fan going up to Jermaine O'Neal and then bam a right by JO.

[RP]

If Bird even THINKS about trading the 11th pick without moving up in the process, I will find Bird and shove my boot up his ass.

Bird is horrible. I wish Boston would take him back. No big name is gunna come play in INdiana especially if Maniac Larry thinks Tinsley will be the starting pg. God, just take Westbrook or Augustine. This is horrible.

[RP]

" Indiana's whole team is in the stands "

:lol:

Knowing what i know now, i'm glad we got our moneys worth

[VonErichLives]

If Bird even THINKS about trading the 11th pick without moving up in the process, I will find Bird and shove my boot up his ass.

thats a lot of money free'd up around the time James will be a free agent?

Dunno, this suck like crap for a year, get a good pick and free up a ton of cap space isn't a horrible plan...

Posey has 2 rings now, I don't see a home town discount, but I could see one of the big 3 taking a little pay cut to free up money to keep him.

[KingofOldSchool]

thats a lot of money free'd up around the time James will be a free agent?

Dunno, this suck like crap for a year, get a good pick and free up a ton of cap space isn't a horrible plan...


Like RP said, there is no way in hell a big name like Lebron would be going to Indiana, at least this Indiana ball club.

Seriously, if anything the Pacers should package the 11th pick and Tinsley and/or JO to a team in the top ten for an expiring contract and their first round pick.

WESTBROOK GOD DAMMIT

Remember that last guy we drafted from UCLA in the first round?

Yeah I think he turned out okay for our team.

[RP]

Westbrook will be amazing. I think Westbrook will be one of the best players out of this draft.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Was just looking at a mock draft...the first 7 picks could potentially all be freshman :eek:

[SammyG]

Yo watch out for the Blazers next year. Gonna be mad good.

[MCEazy]

Yo watch out for the Blazers next year. Gonna be mad good.

as long as Oden stays healthy

[Gertner]

I'd like to see the Jazz get a big man with defensive presence in the draft.

[RP]

The Pacers will find a way to screw this up. I just know it. I can feel it in my bones. We're gunna take some slow foreign guy and send him over seas for a few years and never here from him again. Will probably trade O'Neil for another underachieving player with a massive contract also.

All i ask is for Russell Westbrook. Thats it. Please.

[Gertner]

hopefully roy hibbert will fall to us

[mrslackalack]

Lakers need to make a trade for a solid SF like Melo, Artest, Prince, Richard Jefferson and Iggy. Id throw at them Odom, Rad, and a 2009 1st rd pick.

[RP]

Who would want to give up any of those players for a SF/PF that cant shoot, an unathletic SF who sometimes can shoot and the 2nd to last pick in the draft? There was a reason why Bynum needed to be included in any deal concerning Odom. Its because Odom isnt nearly as good once someone like say...KG backs off him and just lets him shoot the ball.

[SammyG]

Hmmm... interesting. Rumors of Richard Jefferson to the Lakers for Odom and fillers. Assuming the fillers are Mihm, Vlad, Luke maybe.

[IC Champion]

Damn it, I wanted Toronto to go after RJ, we need a big physical swingman like him.

[IC Champion]

I really hope we move TJ Ford, he's an underachiever.

[SammyG]

Well, it's just a rumor. Hell, KG to LA were rumors too, last year.But the fact that Mitch actually made a huge move in the middle of the year shows me that we might make another one this offseason.

[IC Champion]

Raptors buy out Garbojosa's contract. Fuck him anyways.

[RP]

Yeah while discuss the upcoming Finals series with my friends before it all started none of us could think of who the 3 man was for the Lakers yet we all follow basketball pretty closely lol

Artest would be a great fit with his skill set, but still, have you ever heard the dude talk or any of his interviews or anything? He is straight up retarded, like I feel bad calling him that because I really think he has some sort of mental handicaps or something.

Remember when he told a reporter he didn't fell like playing and was thinking about retiring so he could work on his rap album? :lol:


http://www.zshare.net/audio/137690265760d5c3/

[KingofOldSchool]

The Pacers will find a way to screw this up. I just know it. I can feel it in my bones. We're gunna take some slow foreign guy and send him over seas for a few years and never here from him again. Will probably trade O'Neil for another underachieving player with a massive contract also.

All i ask is for Russell Westbrook. Thats it. Please.

JO to the Warriors for Al Harrington....:shifty:

[Juan]

Coach Phil Jackson and General Manager Mitch Kupchak anticipate a different lineup with many of the same players.
By Jonathan Abrams
Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

June 21, 2008

New season, new Lakers?

The Lakers could feature a completely different makeup next season, Coach Phil Jackson said today.

"If and when [Andrew Bynum] is back, which we anticipate, it will be a different team entirely," Jackson said.

The shifting probably will involve players sliding into new roles, rather than a full-out hunt in the free-agent market this summer.

It will include juggling a loaded frontcourt and Lamar Odom possibly moving from power forward to small forward.

"It's a real issue," Jackson said. "We think we can do it. We think people will have to sacrifice."

General Manager Mitch Kupchak said the team would be creative in its rotation next year, and one option was for Odom to play guard and Kobe Bryant to move up to small forward.

"It could be the longest and biggest frontcourt in the NBA in many, many years," Kupchak said.

"It is a team that would be very talented, very long and versatile, and I think training camp would be an important time to test out what [Jackson] has done during the summer."

Lakers owner Dr. Jerry Buss, Kupchak and Jackson will sit down in the next couple of days to assess the team's future.

As for the Lakers losing in the NBA Finals to Boston in six games, Jackson said:

"We were a Cinderella team, and we just couldn't put the slipper on," before adding: "I just think we weren't ready to assume that role."

As for Bryant and Pau Gasol stretching their bodies to play in the Beijing Olympics this summer, Jackson admitted some concerns, but, "They're so gung-ho about it that I just have to allow them my blessing to play."

Meanwhile, Kupchak's midseason trade for Gasol, in what many considered a heist, is largely credited with catapulting the Lakers into the Finals.

Kupchak said today he expects to retain free agents Sasha Vujacic and Ronny Turiaf, but otherwise may show a faint interest in the free-agent market.

Kupchak confirmed that the team's ownership would meet shortly to discuss possible off-season moves.

"We're well over the cap; we're well over the luxury-cap threshold," he said. "I've looked at the free-agent list. We've ranked them ... but the bottom line is, it's not a very strong unrestricted group of free agents."

Kupchak said Bryant appeared "chipper," when the pair met Thursday.

"It was certainly different than last season's exit meeting," Kupchak said.

Today was the last day of exit interviews for the Lakers at their El Segundo training facility.

Here are some comments from players as they left the Lakers' complex:

Derek Fisher

The point guard rejoined the Lakers this season, falling just short of earning his fourth championship with the team.

He said he was dealing with mixed emotions.

"[I'm] disappointed we couldn't get it done, couldn't get it figured out," Fisher said. "But at the same time, proud of our accomplishment and proud to be a member of this team.

"Just losing in the Finals is not a good feeling."

Fisher said he doesn't anticipate major personnel changes with the team this summer and hopes that he is right.

For any team, he said, there has to be an amount of mutual responsibility and accountability. "I think our group was willing to do that this year," he said.

Andrew Bynum

The young center got the Lakers started on their path to the NBA Finals before sustaining a season-ending knee injury in January.

Bynum had hoped to return to action during the playoffs, but setbacks caused him to eventually undergo surgery instead.

Now, the Lakers can dream of next season when Bynum will finally join Gasol in their long-anticipated frontcourt tandem.

Bynum said he would resume training in two to three weeks and intended to work on his lateral quickness over the summer to handle plays such as the high-pick-and-rolls the Celtics tossed out at the Lakers.

Bynum also is due a contract extension, but the Lakers probably will wait to see how his leg reacts to workouts this summer before approaching the issue.

"That's for my agent to handle," he said. "We'll see what happens."

Lamar Odom

The season had hardly ended before rumblings of Odom being traded for a small forward better suited for the triangle offense started popping up.

"It's crazy," Odom said after his exit interview today. "As soon as I walked into our meeting, Mitch [Kupchak] told me sorry about something that came up in the paper. It's been going on ever since I came here."

But he also was adamant about where he wants to be.

"This is where I want to end my career," he said. "As a Laker."

Odom said he would work on his lateral quickness this summer in anticipation of shifting from power forward to small forward with the return of Bynum.

Still, the devastating Game 6 loss in Boston will sting for a while.

"I'm staying away from NBA TV right now," he said. "I can't stomach it right now. It's something that's going to stick with us for a minute."

LINK
(http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-spw-lakers21-2008jun21,0,977426,full.story)

[RP]

JO to the Warriors for Al Harrington....:shifty:

Al Harrington is not even good. Honestly, he's probably the best player when it comes to looking like he might be really good, but he really isnt. That said... I wouldnt be suprised if that trade happend.

[SammyG]

Ariza exercises his option, remains a LAAAAAKER.

[Crimson]

He'd be stupid not to

[Gertner]

lol jura what is the point of posting a link when u posted the whole article here.

[SammyG]

Whoa, Tayshaun Prince is on the trading block?! Do it Mitch.

[Juan]

lol Juan what is the point of posting a link when u posted the whole article here.

Just citing the source. :D

[Gertner]

haha the source is in the article.

[Juan]

STFU :mad:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I dunno I think Odom might be a bit slow to guard some SF, lol@ him playing guard though. Maybe on offense I guess, but he definitely could not check the majority of 2 guards in the NBA on D.

[IC Champion]

Maybe they'll play some sort of zone D. Not alot of SG are going to be able to stop Odom on Offence, he can take them in the post, or shoot over them. It's like JS said, he wont have the quickness to guard most 2s in the NBA. But who knows.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Saw a mock with the Celtics taking this guy....

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Nathan Jawai from Australia. Hmmm, would be a project but he looks like he could be an absolute beast in the post. 6'10" 275 LBs, could develop into a nice back up center.

I've also seen him going a lot higher than the Celtics too though, so we'll see. It seems like everyone is dead set on the Celtics taking a big man, which makes the most sense, but who knows. I got a feeling Scalabrine is gonna get dumped somehow though :(

[SammyG]

Serious trade talks between Lakers and Bobcats, maybe dealing Odom for Gerald Wallace.

[Juan]

I'm a big Wallace fan, but I dunno about that.

[RP]

he's better then Odom

[RP]

He's probably the most underated player in the NBA aside from Brian Scalabrini

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

http://redsarmy.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/scal.png?w=315&h=472

[Juan]

As streaky as Odom is, I think he's better than Wallace. Like I said though, I"m a Wallace fan but I don't think I'd take him over Odom.

[RP]

http://redsarmy.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/scal.png?w=315&h=472

BUILT LIKE A FREIGHT TRAIN

[Juan]

Shaq :n:

http://www.tmz.com/tmz_main_video?titleid=1626146951

[RP]

BAHAHAHAHA Shaq is awesome.

[MCEazy]

Shaq :n:

http://www.tmz.com/tmz_main_video?titleid=1626146951

fuk shaq don't quit ur day job buddy, whatever that is... LOL @ him sayin he's better then Kareem.

[SammyG]

Haha, was just about to post this. Saw this about 10 minutes ago. Fucking Shaq. I don't care about he said about Kobe, but the fact that he said he's better than Kareem is ridiculous.

[McLegend]

Shaq is better then Kareem.

If you were playing a pickup game with those, and you wanted to stay on the court the whole night you guys would honestly pick Kareem over Shaq? Both in there primes.

There ain't no way in hell Kareem could handle Shaq.

[MCEazy]

wait so then ur saying a guy with more MVP's, championships, All-NBA defensive team's, points, rebounds, freethrow %, better leadership and more blocks is inferior to shaq? You can't go and say that Kareem couldn't handle shaq, they've played in two different era's and have never faced each other, nor will they ever. Kareem's widely considered one of the best ever up there w/ Jordan, Bird and Magic, when's the last time u've heard that about shaq?

[McLegend]

Shaq is the most dominating Center since Wilt Chamberlain. They changed the rules for both players so people could actually play against them. No one did that for Karrem.

Karrem wasn't even a good defensive player. C'mon

[MCEazy]

shaq wasn't that great of a defender ether, he's never been a 1st league defender (only 3 second team) whereas as Kareem's been a 1st league defender 11 times and averaged more blocks per game. No doubt Shaq was more dominating in the paint then Kareem or basically almost anybody ever to play (except for Wilt) but when u compare the 2 overall (offence, defence, success and leadership), Kareem is still miles ahead.

[McLegend]

No he isn't. Kareem was a pussy. Huge ninny.

Mosses Malone and Bill Walton own him. No one owns Shaq.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

"You know how I be. Last week Kobe couldn't do without me."

[MCEazy]

shaq couldn't do without kobe ether, or dwayne wade for that matter :-\

[Juan]

Shaq better than Kareem?!? You gotta be fuckin kidding me.

[Crimson]

So is it hands down Bulls pick up Rose?

[Juan]

Has to be, I would think.

[SammyG]

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[Juan]

hahaha WTF?

[KingofOldSchool]

There is a rumor (although the trade is supposedly off, but that never means anything) of the Pacers trading Jermaine O'Neal to the Raptors for Rasho Nestrovic (he's got a hefty expiring contract), T.J. Ford, and the 17th pick in the draft.

That would be LOVELY for the Pacers, they could use that 17th pick to get either DeAndre Jordan or Darrell Arthur.

[RP]

That would be a nice deal. I dont think they'd pick Jordan or Arthur. Probably Kostas Kofus or whatever the fuck his name is.

[KingofOldSchool]

That would be a nice deal. I dont think they'd pick Jordan or Arthur. Probably Kostas Kofus or whatever the fuck his name is.

He might be off the board by the 17th pick, at least from all of the mocks I've seen. I'd rather get a center than another forward, imo. They need bigger bodies in the paint,

[RP]

I hope that trade happens. If Fords head doesnt fall off with all those neck injuries, i think he is gunna be a fantastic PG. Then i'd like to see Indiana package those 2 picks to get deep in the top 10 maybe. Bayless seems to be dropping fast. Some people have him at #7. I think he'd be a pretty good 2 guard despite his size. I liken him to AI.

[RP]

I think we need to draft Augustine if Westbrook isnt there. Augustine ( though i question whether he's a big game performer ) makes the most sense to draft for Indiana right now. Unless they get T. J Ford and a new neck.

[RP]

If the Pacers get another pick in the 12-19 range, the future is bright. Unless they just totally fuck it up. Theres alot of talent in this draft. Adding two players in the top 20 will be huge.

[SammyG]

That would be a nice deal. I dont think they'd pick Jordan or Arthur. Probably Kostas Kofus or whatever the fuck his name is.
You watch what you call him. Greek PHENOM.

[RP]

I think this deal with the Raptors might end up happening.

I was reading Bill Simmons and Chris Ford doing a mock draft. They took turns making every other pick. Somehow they had Bayless coming to us. I'd shit my pants if that happend. Just like i shit my pants when Granger fell to us.

[RP]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHAQ PWNAMENTS

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3459208

Somewhere Kobe is laughing histerically because he never said one thing to Shaq to make Shaq go and do that rap and in turn, fuck himself. ROFL love Kobe a little more now.

[RP]

For one day only, i love Larry Bird

http://www.wthr.com/global/story.asp?s=8547059

"I'm not really worried about our point guard situation because I know there's some things out there we can do to get a good point guard - maybe two of them. We got one for sale," Bird said. LOLz

I really like how honest with the public Larry is being about the team. And he's not hiding what the front office is trying to accomplish. I also like the fact that the Pacers openly acknowledge they look to shop O'Neal and Jermaine is good with that on a professional business type level. It really seems O'neal could come back if we didnt trade him and not take it personally. Ofcourse, 44 million dollars over 2 years tends to keep you pretty level headed.

[MCEazy]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHAQ PWNAMENTS

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3459208

Somewhere Kobe is laughing histerically because he never said one thing to Shaq to make Shaq go and do that rap and in turn, fuck himself. ROFL love Kobe a little more now.

:lol:

[RP]

If the Heat seriously dont take Beasley, this whole draft could change. Beasley seems real laid back and seems like the class clown type. He doesnt seem like he takes anything serious. I can see how that might scare some people. You wonder if when its time for him to be a leader ( which he has the talent to match ) will he actually step up, or be immature and just tell jokes. I can see why that scared people, but I think the Heat are insane if they dont take him.

[RP]

I dont want the Pacers to take Augustine, but its the best pick and Augustine might just be a fantastic PG when its all said and done. He's got the tools and the leadership. Its just not a fancy pick to me i guess. Westbrook is a fancy pick. Gordon or Bayless too.

I'll tell you what i want to see. I want the Pacers to show some real balls and draft Joe Alexander if he's available.

[RP]

Pacers better not take no fucking Roy Hibbert bullshit. I swear to god Larry.

[SammyG]

lol, why does it matter anyway. You have no shot at coming out of the East anyway.

[RP]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-jermaineonealtraded062508&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Looks like the deal is done depending on physicals. This is huge. For one, we might get by with TJ ford as our point. 2) Now if someone like Anthony Randolph drops, we dont have to pass on him. We can draft him and see his potential develope ( hopefully into a PF ). 3) We can do any number of things at 17. We can take Hibbert ot Koufus and have a solid big man who can probably come in and start, or if we dont think TJ Ford is a sure thing as the starter ( why wouldnt we ? ) we could maybe take Mario Chalmers, or Augustine might still be there, who knows.

[KingofOldSchool]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-jermaineonealtraded062508&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Looks like the deal is done depending on physicals. This is huge. For one, we might get by with TJ ford as our point. 2) Now if someone like Anthony Randolph drops, we dont have to pass on him. We can draft him and see his potential develope ( hopefully into a PF ). 3) We can do any number of things at 17. We can take Hibbert ot Koufus and have a solid big man who can probably come in and start, or if we dont think TJ Ford is a sure thing as the starter ( why wouldnt we ? ) we could maybe take Mario Chalmers, or Augustine might still be there, who knows.

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[RP]

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[RP]

Fuck lets not stop there. Lets cut Jamaal Tinsley now. COMON DO IT! DO IT !

[RP]

Tinsley, Daniels , Williams and Harrison. Line them up and push them off the fucking plank. Lets do it.!!!!! YESSS LETS DO IT!!!! NOSTALGIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KingofOldSchool]

Fuck lets not stop there. Lets cut Jamaal Tinsley now. COMON DO IT! DO IT !

Let's trade him to the Cincinnati Bengals, he'd fit in with them.

[RP]

I think we need to roll with Ford and snag whatever really good player drops at 11. Everything i've ever seen from Ford was great. I mean, his neck is probably fine. He averaged 12pnts 6 assists and 1 steal in 23 minute per game last year. He could probably put up all star numbers with Granger and Dunleavy and maybe EG or Bayless is one of them drops. I dunno, but Ford in my mind is an all star caliber PG when healthy. How we roped the Raptors into this deal is beyond me, but i hope Chris Wallace is calling and asking about Tinsley.

We have a shot at getting a solid center. Hibbert i just dont know about. Guy seemed to dissapear last year. He would be fantastic defensivley. Seems like a smart good charachter guy. Maybe he can develope some offensive game i dunno. I'm not sure about HIbbert or Koufus. Darrell Aurthur might be there, but he's really skinny. That kinda worries me. He's shaped more like a SF and i think we need a PF or C at 17.

If Aurthur can fill out into his frame and put some pounds on, we should take him. He could be a star. I like Javale Mcgee too, but Birds already said he wants to draft players that can help right away. I dont know if either of them can do that.

As for pick #11. Theres several players that might drop for whatever reasoning. Bayless, Gorden, Randolph ( most likely ). We need to jump on Randolph if he's there. We cant get Bender'ed twice can we?

[Gertner]

Fuck lets not stop there. Lets cut Jamaal Tinsley now. COMON DO IT! DO IT !

I thought Tinley was a top pg in the nba?

[KingofOldSchool]

I thought Tinley was a top pg in the nba?

Yeah among the nightclub industry.

Him and Pacman Jones could be a fierce tag team.

[Crimson]

I want Seattle to take Bayless..he'll be better than Mayo . Westbrook would be a good pick too but probably too high for him.

[Splaya]

Yeah among the nightclub industry.

Him and Pacman Jones could be a fierce tag team.

Assuming they both get suspended at some point during their seasons this year, I could see them being TNA Tag Champs at some point

[RP]

Rick Bucher just said O'neal hasnt played since his knee was repaired...uhhhh yes he has Rick. Oh wait this is ESPN...you're excused.

[RP]

Who the fuck cares if Kevin Love can throw a fucking chest pass 94 fucking feet? That shit is a turnover every time in the NBA. WHO THE FUCK CARES?

[KingofOldSchool]

I wish Kevin Love would drop down to us.

[SammyG]

Kevin Love is going to Memphis.

[RP]

I want this guy

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[ron the dial]

god i hope the bulls take derrick rose

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I heard Eric Gordan was in SpaceJam, no joke

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Really want the Celtics to take this guy, I highly doubt they will because they don't really have a need for him but I don't care.
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[Juan]

I'm somewhat hoping that the Kings pick Yi Jianlian @ #12.

Also, Donte Green to Golden State.

[SammyG]

Yi Jianlian? what?

[Juan]

I believe I have received some incorrect information...:$

[OssMan]

I'm somewhat hoping that the Kings pick Yi Jianlian @ #12.

Also, Donte Green to Golden State.
more like JUANte Green, am i rite?

[RP]

Yi Jianlian is getting drafted again?

[SammyG]

lol wtf Juan. Yi Jianlian is already in the NBA. Stupid Laker fans... :roll:

[KingofOldSchool]

The latest mock has the Pacers drafting Koufos and Robin Lopez.

IMO, they should still take Augustin or Westbrook (even though he won't be around by #11) since Ford might get put on the shelf for a few months by a light breeze.

It would be amazingly awesome if we could get both Augustin AND Randolph.

[RP]

The latest mock has the Pacers drafting Koufos and Robin Lopez.

IMO, they should still take Augustin or Westbrook (even though he won't be around by #11) since Ford might get put on the shelf for a few months by a light breeze.


If we draft those 2 stiffs, i'll be so angry.

[VonErichLives]

ok, I'm a little confused here...

Potland gets the 27th pick from NO for "cash considerations"..

So, they just bought a draft pick no players invovled...

So, how long until Mark Cuban offers X-millions for a #1 overall pick from someone?

oh and that Shaq thing was funny, from whats come out is apperently during Kobe's "colorado" issue, he commented that Shaq cheated all the time, and this led to Shaq's divorce.

The "how's my ass taste" was a refrence to some woman who "tossed shaq's salad" and then ended up with Kobe (not sure if that's Kobe's wife or someone else).

If someone else already pointed this out sorry, didn't read back far enough.

[IC Champion]

Pacers took Ford, thank fucking god. He was a little bitch. You know if he doesn't start, he will suck terribly? And even when he does, he's still not great. Ford has range of about 15 feet, maybe. And was a terrible decision maker. He has speed that's all.

Now, I'm still weary of the trade, I mean O'Neil hasn't exactly been playing up to par these last couple seasons. But if he can go back to his old form, or close than I like the trade. Him and Bosh in the post, 2 quick, athletic guys in the post, who can move and run the court. If this improves rebounding, than fuck it, it was worth it. However, I don't like that we moved Nesterovic. He played some very solid ball down the stretch for us last year, and is awesome to have coming off the bench.

What really needs to be done, is Bargnani needs to be moved, while someone still wants him. This kid is going to be a bust. Hopefully with a real starter at center, he doesn't start anymore, and I really hope he doesn't move down to SF. We really need a talented swingman, like a Gerald Wallace, or Richard Jefferson.

[KingofOldSchool]

How many years are left on Ford's contract?

I'm still hoping that they draft Augustin or Westbrook if he happens to drop, that way they can develop and cut ties with Ford if he doesn't pan out. If we get Augustin and Randolph we would have a solid core of good, young talent.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>God I fucking hate the Knicks.</font>

[RoXer]

YEAHHHH BAYLESS

I think the Pacers will be a hot team next year. If Diago finally busts out to his potential then I will adopt that team.

[mrslackalack]

Blazers got bout Diagou and Bayless. They are buliding into a serious contender with Roy, Alridge, Diagou finally in a position to show his potential and 2 young budding stars in Oden and Bayless.

[mrslackalack]

I guess Jamal Tinsleys time in Indiana is over with as hes gone from the starting PG to 3rd string behind Ford and Jack.

[Crimson]

I like Westbrook in Seattle but wtf with taking Ibaka with the 24th pick..he's gonna play overseas till like 2011 fuck he isn't even that good for the wait is he?

Do the Bobcats not like Felton at their point.. Augustin is a solid backup or maybe he can take the starting job since Felton had some injury concerns.

[Crimson]

CDR is still on the board..let's go Sonics, draft his ass

[Crimson]

Oh great we traded the pick to the Pistons for D.J White :|

[Crimson]

Fuckin Portland gets Dorsey..he'll be a Ben Wallace type player so put the Blazers in the finals within 3 years with all the players they got now.

[SammyG]

I anticipate RP to have some comments after this draft.

[mrslackalack]

What boneheaded ugh move will the Pacers do next? Trade Granger for a 2nd rd pick? lol

[SammyG]

Pacers trade TJ Ford for Chris Mihm

[mrslackalack]

I say the Bobcats went for a PG first rd instead of a big man because they are confident Morrison and May will return and be healthy and contribute.

[mrslackalack]

Lakers got a major sleeper in Joe Crawford.

[KingofOldSchool]

WOOOO I love the Hibbert pick, I think he's going to have a pretty good career.

[SammyG]

Aaaaand the Lakers select......

Joe Crawford. THE REF.

[mrslackalack]

Crawford is def a steal. He was highly regarded coming out of high school. 5 star player and McDonalds All American. He underachieved his first 3 yrs at UK under Tubby Smith but when Billy Gillspie became the coach Crawford showed his potential. He also had a solid NBA draft camp where I believe he scored 20 pts. He has a lot of heart and a great scorer. They did get it right however he needs to work on his quickness. He could be the backup to Kobe if Vujaic who is a FA goes elsewhere but if Vujaic stays I expect Crawford to be 3rd string or spend time in the D-League. Rajon Rondo has claimed he thinks Crawford will be a solid NBA player.

[Juan]

This could be good.

[KingofOldSchool]

Bird is fucking nuts for giving up Bayless and Diogu for two hacks and Rush,

[Juan]

^ Agreed.

[mrslackalack]

T-Wolves trade O.J. Mayo, Antoine Walker, and others to the Grizzlies for Mike Miller, Kevin Love, and Jason Collins and others

[Juan]

oh snap!

[SammyG]

what the FUCK is Memphis doing. My best friend is a Grizz fan, and it just pisses me off to see that their GM is the biggest idiot EVER. Antoine Walker, Marco Jaric? GTFO

[mrslackalack]

Theres even rumors out there that the Grizzlies want Haslem and David Lee bad and would be willing to trade Conley and Gay to get them! THe new Grizz GM and Larry Bird dont know what they are doing

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

what the FUCK is Memphis doing. My best friend is a Grizz fan, and it just pisses me off to see that their GM is the biggest idiot EVER. Antoine Walker, Marco Jaric? GTFO

Are you kidding me? The Grizz GM is an idiot? They basically just traded OJ Mayo and role player for Kevin Love and a role player...who would you rather have?

Kevin McHale is an idiot, the dude is just trying to get fired..First KG....now this? :|

Also, the majority of Memphis's roster is on their rookie contracts which means big money in free agency..I really hope you meant to say the T-Wolves GM is an idiot and just had a typo..

[Gertner]

Jazz got Koulas. Pretty pleased with our draft. Took 2 euros in the 2nd that we can stash in Europe until their ready.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Really want the Celtics to take this guy, I highly doubt they will because they don't really have a need for him but I don't care.
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YES THE CELTICS PICKED UP MY BOY...WOOOOOOOOO

[mrslackalack]

Walker is solid. Very prone to injuries however.


I think the 3 suprises for me not being drafted was

Miss St SG Jamont Gordon. Everyone had him projected to be drafted Some had him as high as a late 1st rder, For a while he was Bilas top remaining player on the board for a while but did not get drafted. He had declared early for the draft but did not hire an agent so he CAN return to Miss St. I think he will make an NBA roster and his stock will rise next season because he is pretty clutch and fits a NBA type of large PG plus the Freshmen Class of 2008 is nowhere as deep as the past 2 years.

USC SF Davon Jefferson Declared for the draft after only 2 seasons and hired an agent. Many thought he should have returned for his jr season. Cannot return to USC.

Tennesee G Chris Lofton. An example of somebody that should have declared early. Had Lofton declared for the draft his Jr Yr he would have been a late 1st early 2nd rd pick. He is small and not great at defense but has great character and a lights out shooter. He would be a great guy to come off the bench and shoot 3s like the Steve Kerr, Brent Barry, Kyla Korver types.

[tman220]

so the Blazers roster looks like Bayless Roy Outlaw Aldridge and Oden. I say they'll be in the West Finals with the Lakers

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Lofton's release is slow and he is too small to be a Steve Kerr, Brent Barry or Kyle Korver type. I think he will catch on in the NBA with some team but I dunno, I think he'll need to do something else other than just be a 3 point shooter because I don't think that will get him playing time in the NBA. I am basing this off of this last season where he was battling the testicular cancer problem so may be I am unfair in my judgment though

[SammyG]

... They traded Mike Miller, as well. No, Stima, the MEMPHIS GM is an idiot. I would rather have Love on my team, over Mayo. Antoine Walker and Marco Jaric, who the fuck, come on now. Terrible trade for Memphis.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol you would rather have Kevin Love? Maybe in the future you could be right, but right now come on. The dudes biggest asset is that he is a great outlet passer :|

Love also fucks over Al Jefferson, will now have to stay at center rather than move over to his natural position of power forward. Miller is an alright player, his stats are inflated on a bad team but I am fan of his, however I would take OJ Mayo and Walker over Kevin Love and Miller for the simple fact that Love does not look like an NBA player at all. Jaric was simply a toss in for money purposes (much like Brian Cardinal and Jason Collins) so I dunno why you are so hung up on that.

[RoXer]

Alright, nevermind. The Blazers are now my adopted team.

[RP]

I'm officially no longer a Pacer fan. I'm done. I cant do it anymore. I cant believe what happend last night. I'm still shaking. I wanted to puke at work so badly. I still cant believe it. I knew Bird would find a way to fuck this up, but i didnt think it would be that badly. Bayless ( top 4 player in the draft ) and potential All NBA teamer falls right into our laps. So what does Bird do? He trades him for a role player who will never start ahead of Dunleavy or Granger a career backup and a former local High School star...

...

I cant believe it. I cannot believe this happend. Larry Bird is no legend. He's a peice of fucking shit. He's horrible. He's worse then Isiah Thomas the only difference is he's white. If Larry Bird was black, he's easily the worst GM in the league. He just flushed any future Indiana had down the drain. How does a Granger/ Bayless duo sound? I hope it sounds fucking fantastic because we'll never see it. Thank you Larry Bird and FUCK YOU! Go Back to Boston you fucking faggot.

Fantastic 17th pick though. Yah, that was a real smoothe one. Lets draft the slowest most unathletic guy in the draft and stun the fucking shit out everyone when we put him in our new " Up Tempo Shoot Three's and Run " style. No team will see that one coming. Good move. Yahh...

fucking clownshoes

[KingofOldSchool]

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[VonErichLives]

Stuart Scott said the guy who paid like 50K for the shirt doc was wearing when Pierce dumped the gatoraid bucket on him should "get a life".

The guy got the shirt, signed by doc and pierce framed and the bucket, all money went to charity, Bill Parcells actually got the bidding going big time then I think gatoraid was bidding and stopped because they didn't want to take it away from a "true fan" so they just made a donation and the Celtics I think matched it as long as they get to borrow it for display.

This all being said as a guy said on the radio today "Stuart Scott made a career of 'boo-yah' and 'cooler then the other side of the pillow' how's that glass house buddy?"

[SammyG]

BOOYAH

[Bad News Gertner]

Well Frank.....it appears that the Pacers will be doing alot of pacing this year.




YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

[SammyG]

Blazers scare the crap outta me.

[IC Champion]

Blazers scare the crap outta me.

Couple more years still.

[mrslackalack]

I have heard a few people say the Blazers next year will make it as far as the West Finals (never know the Jazz made the West Finals in 07 after having a few down yrs) I dont think they will yet. I do think however they are a playoff team but will bow out in a close series 1st rd or will get swept in beat in 5 in the Conf Semis

[Juan]

Brand and Maggette opt out

Clippers forward Elton Brand joined teammate Corey Maggette today in opting out of the final season of his contract and will become an unrestricted free agent.

Brand, who sat out all but eight games last season while recovering from a ruptured Achilles' tendon, immediately becomes one of the most attractive big men in the market.

He was owed $16.4 million had he stayed in the final year of his Clippers contract.

Maggette, the longest-tenured Clipper, also is one of the most attractive free agents in this off-season's market.

Baron Davis opts out

Golden State point guard Baron Davis elected to become a free agent Monday night, opting out of the final year of his contract with the Warriors in a surprise move.

Artest does NOT opt out

On the last night of the NBA Finals, Ron Artest said he was "99 percent sure" he wouldn't opt out of his contract with the Sacramento Kings. Make it 100.

"Not opting out," Artest told ESPN.com's Marc Stein via e-mail Monday night. "The Kings have been there for me, so the best I could do is stay in my contract."

Artest's agent, Mark Stevens, confirmed that his client will fulfill the final year, worth nearly $8 million.

Artest played in only 57 games due to injury last season and averaged 20.5 points and 5.8 rebounds per game.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Wow, Davis just turned down almost 17 million by opting out. Has plenty of money obviously but still, that's A LOT to turn down. Guess he really wants that long term deal.

[Ninti the Mad]

Too bad SA cant afford him.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

They don't really need him though. I think he could potentially go to the Clippers, I heard that Elton Brand only opted out so he could resign for less and help the organization...that leaves more money for Davis (plus Corey Maggette just opted out as well, so I think the Clippers would have some money freed up)

I have no idea that Brand thing is true though, if not, imagine Brand going to a team like the Suns? :eek:

[Juan]

Antawn Jamison and Wizards agree to new deal

Antawn Jamison said all along he was happy in the nation’s capital and it appears that hasn’t changed.

The Washington Wizards wasted little time assuring the return of Jamison -- reportedly agreeing to a new four-year deal with the All-Star forward.

[Gertner]

Gonna be a boring Off season for Utah.

[RP]

I think Kyle Korver is gunna man up and rape a girl this season. I think he has it in him. It'd be some good ole fashion street cred. He'd be the toughest white guy in Utah. Especially if it ends up being Matt Harprings wife.

[McLegend]

Baron Davis all ready signed with the Clippers.

[McLegend]

Probably will end up re-signing Elton Brand too.

[mrslackalack]

Baron Davis signs with Clippers

[Crimson]

Yea they def need to re sign Brand. That'll be a sick duo if healthy.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Heard the Celtics are offering the mid-level exception to Corey Maggette, I dunno, we'll see. Probably would mean Posey is out though? I dunno about all that...

[SammyG]

Lake Show pushing for Posey.

[ClockShot]

Supersonics are gonna pay up to $75 million to get out of Seattle.

[Juan]

Poor Seattle bastards are left with the Mariners.

[SammyG]

...and the Seahawks.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

So stupid the Sonics are moving. Oklahoma City? Come on

[Juan]

Oh yeah.

[RP]

I would trade the Pacers for the Mariners right now.

[RP]

Brandon Rush does remind me of Pierce. I think he has that kind of game and could possibly turn into that type of player, the problem is, we have like 4 SF's. Wheres Rush gunna fit in? Play him at 2guard behind Dunleavy? Dunleavy will get atleast 80% of the minutes. You'd think something was in the works. If you draft Rush, you're telling me that you'll be trading Dunleavy or Granger. Because why else would you draft Rush? You dont draft a back up over a potential superstar PG/SG who would start right away. I like Rush. He might be the best perimeter defender in the draft. His defense is fantastic and he supposedly showed a ton of Offensive skill in the draft camps that no one knew he had because he was mostly being a " team player " at Kansas. I hope thats true. The guy was a top 5 pick a year ago before he tore his knee up. I like Rush alot, but why draft him if he aint got a shot at starting? Why over Bayless?

[Crimson]

Hmm not sure if I should still root for the Sonics..I don't wana be a fan of a hick team in Oklahoma. Kinda hard to just switch tho, so I dunno :/

[SammyG]

RP, You can ask "Why" about every aspect of the Pacers franchise. Larry Bird is terrible, and I feel sorry for all Pacer fans.

[Jura]

Hmm not sure if I should still root for the Sonics..I don't wana be a fan of a hick team in Oklahoma. Kinda hard to just switch tho, so I dunno :/
Eh, it wouldn't be a hick team just the state. Regardless of where they are, if you like the team then you should cheer for them unless you have something against the place.

I think I've seen what the jerseys could look like. They may have been made by some fans but if its legit the jerseys look really nice. The main colors are black and gold and white. Gold being the accent color.

There's a possibility that other NBA teams could move to other cities in the future too. If the Hornet's average attendance is below a certain number next year then they can opt out on their lease or whatever and leave town. Sacramento could move too especially since the Maloofs spend most of their time in Las Vegas. I've always wondered why LV didn't have a professional team and like the idea. I also like the idea of a team in OK so there could be more teams in the midwest but I'd rather have a team in Kansas City instead of OK. I thought driving through Kansas was boring but Oklahoma is pretty awful compared to it. At least near KC there's lots of cities and populated areas where people can come from to support the team instead of farm land galore in Oklahoma.

[McLegend]

Elton Brand bitches

[SammyG]

Good, getting him outta the Western Conference. Davis and Brand would be way too much to handle.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Is that Brand thing gonna happen? I haven't seen it anywhere but on message boards

Also just read on Sportsline that Maggette is going to the Warriors, wonder if that means Posey will be back in Boston?

[SammyG]

Warriors desperately need a point guard now, good thing is they got cap space.

[McLegend]

O it's gonna happen

[SammyG]

Warriors offer Ronny 17 mil over 4 years. I personally hope we don't match that offer sheet, let him walk, he's not THAT good... Also that frees up more money for us to try to get Artest. We already have offered L.O. For Ron.

[RP]

I wonder if the Pacers can find a way to trade Tinsley to the Warriors for a small contingent of there average fags.

[Crimson]

Damn , a Brand/Davis combo woulda been sweet. Poor Clippers

[SammyG]

Poor Clips? Livingston is coming back, isn't he? Kaman is a good underrated center, and they got B-Diddy now...

What sucks is that they lost Maggette.

[IC Champion]

And that the Warriors signed Maggette. Poor Clippers.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Poor Clips? Livingston is coming back, isn't he? Kaman is a good underrated center, and they got B-Diddy now...

What sucks is that they lost Maggette.

Nah Livingston is a free agent. So from last years team they lost Maggette and added Baron Davis (since Brand only played 8 games) probably going to finish with around the same record.

[RP]

I read the Clips might make a run at Okafer

he's no Brand, but he's pretty good.

[RP]

Is it just me or does the East look like it might be the best conference. Not only all the superstars on the East side, but alot of teams drafted bright futures.. I guess Indiana might be one. Beasly and Rose both in the East. Lebron, Arenas, KG, Pierce, Bosh, Travis Diener, Wade, Howard.

[SammyG]

Kobe
Dirk
Duncan
Nash
Bynum
Chris Paul
T-mac
etc etc

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol Travis Diener

The West top to bottom is the better conference but I would take the top teams from the East over any team from the West (basing it off last season anyway) Western Conference teams don't play D like the Celtics or Pistons do.

[Jura]

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Tell me how my gas taste?

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[SammyG]

Wow, that looks EXACTLY like Kobe there. that's fucking sweet.

MVP BITCH

[SammyG]

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[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Anyone see OJ Mayo cram on that dude a few nights ago in one of the summer league games? :eek: It was on ESPN top plays yesterday I think, shit was ridiculous.

[Jura]

lol I was watching the stream for that and then I was like nah the quality and lighting is crappy and I can't tell who is who so I stopped watching. Then later on I hear about OJ doing a dunk on some guy.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

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Better quality than I've been seeing - It's Hilton Armstrong who gets crammed on which makes it even better since that dude is a pretty good shot blocker from what I hear.

[Jura]

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[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Anyone hear that Marbury got his Starbury Inc. logo tattoo'd on his head? I saw a picture of it online somewhere, don't feel like finding it again but its true lol

[RP]

I read Mayo got ripped and slammed on by a D-League player. Also read that Anthony Randolph is tearing it up.

[SammyG]

Camby to the Clippers..

[Skippord]

Good choice there Nuggets :|

[SammyG]

Wow, Posey to the Hornets, 4 years 25 million..

[Ninti the Mad]

I am glad the Nugs got rid of Camby.

He sucks. I dont care if he makes the all defensive team. He is still a piece of shit.

[SammyG]

lol @ every team in the West except for the Lakers, Blazers, Hornets.

[RP]

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW THIS MARCUS CAMBY DEAL POSSIBLY WORKS? They traded him for a 2nd round draft pick. How is that possible? How does that get approved? Is Camby no under contract? Dont they have to match salarys? WTF is going on here. The NBA is so damn currupt.

[Gertner]

lol @ every team in the West except for the Lakers, Blazers, Hornets.

yeah, the jazz are gonna be terrible next year:roll:

[SammyG]

Jazz are gonna be solid as usual, and do nothing in the playoffs. again.

[The Genius]

turiaf finally to GS, i wonder how samuelG feels about this. he will be a back up center and hopefully play some good defense.

[DaveWadding]

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW THIS MARCUS CAMBY DEAL POSSIBLY WORKS? They traded him for a 2nd round draft pick. How is that possible? How does that get approved? Is Camby no under contract? Dont they have to match salarys? WTF is going on here. The NBA is so damn currupt.


Why would they have to match salaries when the Clippers are way under cap because of Brand leaving?

[Crimson]

Yea, Denver apparently saves tons of money by letting Camby go. Corrupt lol

[Jura]

http://f3.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_nba_experts__8/ept_sports_nba_experts-432231910-1216148215.jpg?ym4bos_CxL1UfFvV

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW THIS MARCUS CAMBY DEAL POSSIBLY WORKS? They traded him for a 2nd round draft pick. How is that possible? How does that get approved? Is Camby no under contract? Dont they have to match salarys? WTF is going on here. The NBA is so damn currupt.

lol what? There are certain things they need to do sometimes to make the salaries "work" but they don't have to match. How would they ever make a trade if contracts had to match?

[SammyG]

Yeah, Ronny to GS... Good for him. He's a good guy. We got Odom, Gasol, Bynum.. he wouldn't get much playing time, plus 17 million for 4 years for him is wayyyyy too much. Wish him the best. G.S. needs big men anyway.

Bynum FINALLY cleared to begin basketball activities... About fucking time. Been waiting for that for like 6 months.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

http://i33.tinypic.com/2q3notz.jpg
"Another win in LA" - Ray Allen

Camera cuts to Derek Fisher...

http://i37.tinypic.com/29yrpxe.jpg

[RP]

Derrick Fishers wife thinking about fucking Ray Allen

[RP]

or Brian Scalabrini most likely

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Or thinking about how she looks a lot like Derek Fisher

[RP]

She probably ate Shaq's ass.

[SammyG]

Haha

[Juan]

I was just getting over my short term hatred of the Celtics until I watched the Espy's.

[Juan]

Apparently the Detroit Pistons are interested in Ron Artest's services.

I wish we could pick him up without giving up Odom and without receiving Kenny Thomas.

[SammyG]

The only way of getting Artest is by giving up LO.

[McLegend]

Apparently the Detroit Pistons are interested in Ron Artest's services.

I wish we could pick him up without giving up Odom and without receiving Kenny Thomas.

So I guess Rasheed is on the way out? You can't have Artest and Rasheed on the same team.

[Loose Cannon]

lol my god. ticking time bomb that will likely play itself out in a murder on the court

[Loose Cannon]

I still love to watch the whole deal with Artest going into the stands. probably my favorite NBA moment ever

[RP]

Detroit fans will officially be punk bitches if they stand for there team getting Artest. Do they want Tinsley too?

[KingofOldSchool]

Detroit fans will officially be punk bitches if they stand for there team getting Artest. Do they want Tinsley too?

We will shit him first class via UPS if they want him.

[KingofOldSchool]

Oh and I realize I said shit instead of ship, then I realized who was I talking about, so I left it the way it is.

[RP]

Do they want Shawne Williams and his ever so thinning ice?

[RP]

I wanna know how thin the ice Shawne Williams is standing on has to be until it breaks and his dumb cock ass drowns.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Celtics bringing back Eddie House and Tony Allen. Surprised by the Tony Allen move but maybe they think he won't be afraid to jump next year on his repaired knee? Pretty sure the only real dunk he had all year came in the closing seconds of the NBA finals so I dunno.

[SammyG]

Wow, Childress, you are an idiot. Have fun playing in Greece, with Olympiakos. Fucking hooligans, terrible basketball. Terrible environment to play in.

[Jura]

Why is it terrible?

[SammyG]

Because every game there is ruined by flares, stupid fans rushing onto the court, violence in the stands, throwing coins onto the floor. It's terrible, I've lived there, trust me.

[Jura]

Basketball hooligans.

[RP]

Wow, Childress, you are an idiot. Have fun playing in Greece, with Olympiakos. Fucking hooligans, terrible basketball. Terrible environment to play in.

Actually he's brilliant. He's getting paid 3 times more then he coulda possibly made in the NBA. He's also gunna be a superstar over there. And he has the option to opt out of his contract after every year and come back as a unrestricted free agent. So if he tears it up over there, which he probably will, he'll come back and get a monster contract in the NBA. But besides that, he's getting paid alot of money to play overseas. Its a pretty brilliant move by him.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

He is getting a lot more money, I still wouldn't want to do it though. I mean he was gonna make millions here in the States anyway, I think I could manage off of 7 million/year instead of 10 million/year or whatever the difference ended up being. Personal choice though I guess.

[RP]

What i read was that the only team that could pay him money was Atlanta and that because the free agencie money has dried up with pretty much all the teams, he was pretty much gunna have to accept whatever contract Atlanta offered. I think its a brilliant move because everyteam is look at overseas players and if he goes and tears it up for a year, he makes 10 mill guaranteed ( all the money is guaranteed ) and he can opt out and become a unrestricted free agent where someone in the NBA might pay him a ton of money.

[RP]

I dont think he's that good, but who knows. He played in SF central aka Atlanta Hawks.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I dunno he averaged almost 12 points per game off the bench for the Hawks, that's pretty decent. He could have went out and looked for other contracts but Atlanta had the right to match any deal so maybe he just really did not want that to happen so he went and got a pay raise without having to worry about the Hawks matching. I dunno I wouldn't want to leave the NBA to go play in a foreign country but that's just me