LOL!

[Kane Knight]

The first edition of the Million Dollar Giveaway drew...

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2.6 and 2.5!

Way to go Vince! Your ratings actually DROPPED!

[Loose Cannon]

well the problem with trying to gain ratings for this is that you don't actually have to watch the show. You get the password, you wait by your phone and then you can flip back over. It's not like you have to stay glued to Raw

[KingofOldSchool]

And it doesn't help that THEY GIVE AWAY THE FUCKING PASSWORD ON THE WEBSITE!

And they should have ya know, change the password for each prize.

[Kane Knight]

You don't have to, but the same is true with most such giveaways, and those manage to raise ratings and sales.

Of course, the problem is that people have to give a shit in the first place.

At least 3 million of Raw's viewers didn't. And if you can't draw in them, what chance do they have of jacking the ratings?

[The Mackem]

They should have had some puzzle game when you had to collect letters that would pop up on the screen at random times on Raw throughout the course of a month. Make people watch for the money.

[BigDaddyCool]

It would help if it wasn't boring as all hell.

[Dave Youell]

The early ratings for the 2nd week say they are up, i know the figures I see are different from what KK gets, but the usual places are saying it's up by 0.3

[Afterlife]

That's the thing, tho. That first week was slapped together and frustrating. Of course it's not going to be a ratings boost when you're slow runs more roughshod than usual. This is absolutely an instance where you have to wait and see.

[addy2hotty]

So, in a way, Vince is paying a million a week for viewers to turn off.

Brilliant business.

He's a BILLIONAIRE!

[Kane Knight]

The early ratings for the 2nd week say they are up, i know the figures I see are different from what KK gets, but the usual places are saying it's up by 0.3

.3 from what, though? From the 2.6 figure, which brings them back to breakeven, or...?

[Kane Knight]

So, in a way, Vince is paying a million a week for viewers to turn off.

Brilliant business.

He's a BILLIONAIRE!

I think I know what his plan is.

After Million Dollar Mania fails, he's going to hire Brock Lesnar to come to our houses and shake us down for money.

[Rob]

Is it true they called people to tell them to stand by their phones before the first show?

[KingofOldSchool]

Is it true they called people to tell them to stand by their phones before the first show?

Yeah

[Kane Knight]

Is it true they called people to tell them to stand by their phones before the first show?

That would explain why nobody sounded surprised the first time.

[Legend Killer]

How do they do ratings anyways? I had learned about Ratings and Shares in my Mass Media Class here at the college I attend, but I never learned how it was done. I thought that ratings would go up if a person watched a program for a set amount of time.

[Kane Knight]

Are you asking specifically how a person is counted?

[Legend Killer]

Are you asking specifically how a person is counted?

Yeah how are they counted, I mean how do they know that you are watching a program...Do they do it in a survey fashion?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm sort of glad the WWE is failing. Shit like this deserves a ratings drop. RAW this week was apparently much better, so that's something in the WWE's favour, at least.

[Afterlife]

Yeah how are they counted, I mean how do they know that you are watching a program...Do they do it in a survey fashion?

Neilson sends you a packet, and you fill out what shows you watch for what hours, and what shows you'd theoretically watch if you're not actually watching tv for a designated period of time. After a week, you send it in and they tally it with a bunch of other random ass people. That is, given they receive the survey -- when I sent it in, they managed not only to have lost it, but called me twice to ask where it was.

[MUSE]

hahahahahahahahaha :rofl:

vince big dummy!

[Legend Killer]

THANKS, I forgot about the Neilsens.

[Afterlife]

Well, since my personal experience involved them losing their own survey, I tend not to put too much weight in their "calculations". But that's the only ratings system in which I've had firsthand experience.

[MUSE]

million dollar mania sucks man

[addy2hotty]

Smackdown gets more viewers in the UK than Raw now.

That's funny.

[Kane Knight]

Well, since my personal experience involved them losing their own survey, I tend not to put too much weight in their "calculations". But that's the only ratings system in which I've had firsthand experience.

It's also the only system that matters in terms of cable ratings. Of course, they also use TV Readers, devices which are hooked up to people's boxes. I'm not even sure the "TV Diary" method is still in service, though it may be. The boxes are more accurate, and so Nielsen started to favor them in the 90s.

[Legend Killer]

It's also the only system that matters in terms of cable ratings. Of course, they also use TV Readers, devices which are hooked up to people's boxes. I'm not even sure the "TV Diary" method is still in service, though it may be. The boxes are more accurate, and so Nielsen started to favor them in the 90s.

What about those like me who just a cable?

[Kane Knight]

What about those like me who just a cable?

You don't count, though they're actually capable of getting the data. It's easier to get the data from a sample than to go through the hoops.

[Afterlife]

In my personal opinion, Neilson is like any other poll: suspect. Don't get me wrong, I'm no conspiracy theorist. I trust numbers; just not numbers the surveyors.

[Xero]

Doesn't really matter what YOU do or don't trust. You don't have a business based on that ratings system.

Whether it's accurate or not doesn't matter if the industry adheres to it.

[Kane Knight]

In my personal opinion, Neilson is like any other poll: suspect. Don't get me wrong, I'm no conspiracy theorist. I trust numbers; just not numbers the surveyors.

Polls are fine as long as their methods are sound. Nielsen's aren't, since they currently don't cover a large variety of people and situations. However, that is moot, since:

Doesn't really matter what YOU do or don't trust. You don't have a business based on that ratings system.

Whether it's accurate or not doesn't matter if the industry adheres to it.

What he said.

[Afterlife]

Yeah, I know. I'm not saying I matter. Simply stating my position, and the whys and wherefors.

[Kane Knight]

It's a bad reason.

[Afterlife]

Why is it a bad reason?

[Kane Knight]

Why would anyone believe it's not?

[Mercury Bullet]

Maybe it's time for WWE to address the issue of CRAPPY PROGRAMMING rather than just trying to bribe people into watching. And if these ratings are proof of anything, it's that Raw has been SO BAD that a lot of people don't think its worth watching even for the chance at a money.

[Xero]

Maybe it's time for WWE to address the issue of CRAPPY PROGRAMMING rather than just trying to bribe people into watching.

What are you talking about!? WWE programming is FRESH and INNOVATIVE!

[Afterlife]

Why would anyone believe it's not?

See, now, you're doing that thing again where instead of actually saying something, you're trying to look superopr by saying nothing at all.

I'm just trrying to understand why you think it's bad of me not trust giant and/or national polls.