Split WGTT up

[13]

I honestly think that if the WWE split them up and carried them well storline-wise then they could have potential mid-card or high-card competitors on their hands. Shelton vs Eddie was bomb the other day. Also, I could see a Hass vs Edge fued when he gets back. Also, a Shelton vs Cena fued would be awesome. The WWE needs good singles competitors, especially now, with the departure of so many essential guys.

Thoughts

[Fryza]

The WWE has only two good tag teams right now, this would be cool, but bad, IMO.

[The CyNick]

I think both guys have main event potential. I mean its tough to predict that, but I like both guys in the ring, and considering their short time in the business, 2 years from now I can see them at or near that main event position.

My initial thought is to say that they shouldn't break up WGTT, however with the lack of heels on the two shows, I think ti might be a good time to let them go on their own. Especially if they put all the tag teams on one show, that way they wouldn't need them as a tag team as much (even though they are the best team in the company).

I think Cena desperately needs some opponents at the US title level, and assuming he stays on SD, I think they would make foir good opponents for him.

[Loose Cannon]

I think both guys have main event potential. I mean its tough to predict that, but I like both guys in the ring, and considering their short time in the business, 2 years from now I can see them at or near that main event position.

My initial thought is to say that they shouldn't break up WGTT, however with the lack of heels on the two shows, I think ti might be a good time to let them go on their own. Especially if they put all the tag teams on one show, that way they wouldn't need them as a tag team as much (even though they are the best team in the company).

I think Cena desperately needs some opponents at the US title level, and assuming he stays on SD, I think they would make foir good opponents for him.

They're really going to put the tag teams on one show? Well thank god if they are doing this. They needed to do this a long time ago. That division was horrible the way it was. Maybe we might just get a tag division like in the 80's again.

[The CyNick]

They're really going to put the tag teams on one show? Well thank god if they are doing this. They needed to do this a long time ago. That division was horrible the way it was. Maybe we might just get a tag division like in the 80's again.

Actually I haven't heard that, but Ive been thinking that since they dont have enough solid teams to make up two viable divisions, they might as well make the tag division like the CWs and the women and have them exclsuive to either RAW or SD.

My thinking is that with teams on RAW and SD combining they would have a solid division, and then, and only then could they think about breaking up WGTT.

[Loose Cannon]

I think the top four solid teams they have right now are La Resistence, WGTT, Cade/Jindrack and the Bashams

Dudleys, Rikishi/Scotty, Hurricane /Rosey are stale
RVD and Booker I don't consider a real team.
APA is done.
Lance and Val need to be on TV more.

Who else is there? I'm drawing a blank

[packt up]

I really like them as a team at the moment because they work really well together and so wouldn't split them up. Eventually of course though they both have the talent to go into solo competitions just with the division so weak I think WWE needs every tag team it can get.

[MVP]

I think breaking up WGTT is a terrible idea. I agree that both Charlie Haas and Shelton Benjamin have main event potential, but I think they need to be a tag team for majority of this year, and have a few more tag title runs.

Perhaps WGTT cold get into the main event as a tag team, something along the lines of being Paul Heyman's cronies, where they have weekly matches against the main event faces like when they were in Team Angle. There they can establish themselves as credible competetors until they're split up.

If there is a chance of splitting them up in the near future, then the writers need to consider giving these two some character before they go off on their own. Sure they were pretty funny imitating the APA a couple of weeks back, but they need more work on the mic. Their wrestling doesn't need improvement with the exception of changing Shelton Benjamin's finisher.

[rottednation]

They really are a great Tag Team, but to be split up as of now, I think it isn"t a good idea. I mean, they do deserve to be main event, but I just like them too much to be split up... then again, that's just me...

[Funky Fly]

The guys do have potential as singles wrestlers, but with next to no good tag teams out there, that will have to wait.

Once WWE puts some real teams together again, they can split up a couple of years down the line.

[Joe Kerr]

I said it before..They probably are the best wwe tag team...but have great singles potentol....so im torn on this..

[Corkscrewed]

Don't split them off. We haven't even seen them as a tag team too much on SD!, really. Heck, they really should have owned the tag scene, but they blew it.

There aren't enough tag teams right now, and splitting existing ones up would be stupid.

[samichna]

I could sway either way in regards to that conundrum :shifty:

[Watson]

You've got to be kidding me. I say fire 'em both or send them back to OVW.

[Sensei Of Mattitude]

No way, not yet. They have enough single mid-carder roaming the Brown Pastures of the WWE. Raw and Smackdown BOTH need GOOD TAG TEAMS.

[13]

You've got to be kidding me. I say fire 'em both or send them back to OVW.

You sir, are a victim of stupidity...

[Watson]

You sir, are a victim of stupidity...


I'm a victim of stupidity?? Dude you don't know what the f*ck you are talkin' about. You're calling me stupid because I'm not a WGTT fan?? Give me a break. Everyone's entitled to their opinions and in my opinion. Charlie Haas and Shelton Benjamin suck majorly. I'm not insulting their physical abilities because they are good wrestlers but they are missing the one thing that's required to be a main eventer: C-H-A-R-I-S-M-A. Ever heard of it?? I could see Shelton Benjamin getting somewhere but certainly not the main event and Charlie Haas just plain blows in my opinion and neither one of these guys are worth a damn on the mic, hell they hardly even promo. Don't tell me I'm stupid when I've been studying this business for the past 24 years. Assuming that I'm some kind of mark show just how ignorant you truly are. Just think about it.

[Stickman]

here's an off the wall idea. How about getting rid of tag teams all together? Still have the occasional tag match but ditch the belts. Tag Team wrestling hasn't done anything for me in years.

[13]

I'm a victim of stupidity?? Dude you don't know what the f*ck you are talkin' about. You're calling me stupid because I'm not a WGTT fan?? Give me a break. Everyone's entitled to their opinions and in my opinion. Charlie Haas and Shelton Benjamin suck majorly. I'm not insulting their physical abilities because they are good wrestlers but they are missing the one thing that's required to be a main eventer: C-H-A-R-I-S-M-A. Ever heard of it?? I could see Shelton Benjamin getting somewhere but certainly not the main event and Charlie Haas just plain blows in my opinion and neither one of these guys are worth a damn on the mic, hell they hardly even promo. Don't tell me I'm stupid when I've been studying this business for the past 24 years. Assuming that I'm some kind of mark show just how ignorant you truly are. Just think about it.

First of all....Whoa! It was meant to be a light hearted comment and totally was not expecting for it to be taken seriously by someone who has nothing better to do than yell at people on message boards. I did not try to demean you "expertise" in any way, shape, or form (However, now thinking about it...it's kinda humerous and pathetic all at the same time). And since you're such a hardcore student of what it is to be charimatic, why don't you tell me? Because I was under the impression that it took a rediculously long time to figure out whether somebody had charisma or not... I didn't know that it was just something that you could point out in somebody that you've only laid eyes on for about a year or so. Surely you can point it out with all of your 'studying' and 'expertise' though. Sorry for have ever doubted you.

I guess I could see how you came to the conclusion that they had no charisma seeing all the time on the mic they've had i the past year... :roll: Good call.

[Watson]

What's the point of giving somebody mic time if they can't work it. The way WGTT came in was stupid (Team Angle) and whoever came up with the name of their tag team is dumb and unoriginal. Of all the great tag teams in wrestling history; Haas and Benjamin are called "The World's Greatest Tag Team"?? Yeah, ok, whatever. The reason I reacted the way I did is simply because I don't appreciate somebody calling me "stupid" when I say something against newer guys like WGTT, Orton, Lesner, etc. I'm old school as well as new school and I'm not a fan of anybody who hasn't paid their dues and within a year being pushed to the major leagues and all these people bitching about how those guys should be pushed more. I'd bet WGTT is happy and thankful to be where they are now so why complain about how they should be "main eventers". It took Shawn Michaels years to reach the main event as well as Austin, Rock, etc. etc. I'm not saying in a few years Haas and Benjamin couldn't make it to the main event because it's possible but at this time they're still pretty much rookies but if they keep busting their asses then they should do fine but at this point I'm just not a fan of them especially Haas because I, personally, find him to be extremely annoying. In wrestling these days not everybody has the passion for it. Some people just do it because they can (Lesnar) or because of who their family is (Orton). And to me WGTT just don't seem to love the business as much as others, now I could be wrong but that's just the impression that I get. As far as charisma goes, I disagree with your theory. Charisma is something you are born with, you either have it or you don't. Sometimes a worker just needs the right gimmick to express their charisma like Rock & Austin. As "Stunning" Steve and Rocky Maivia they didn't get anywhere but as Stone Cold and The Rock they were off-the-charts and that's because they were being themselves and that's what expresses their charisma and that's why they are so over, because they are naturally charismatic. Haas and Banjamin seemed to be being themselves but to me they come across as seriously dull. That's just my 2 cents. If I offended you, I offer my apologies but if i'm flamed I fire back regardless of the situation.

[13]

I accept your apology and respect your point of view, however; I don't agree with it. I believe that they haven't really given alot of guys in the back a chance to develope characters and show that they do in fact have charisma or what it takes to fully entertain an audience. Without promos or at least a couple vignettes, I don't believe that a credible analysis can be made on thier abilities to entertain.

[Tornado]

here's an off the wall idea. How about getting rid of tag teams all together? Still have the occasional tag match but ditch the belts. Tag Team wrestling hasn't done anything for me in years.
Ummmmmmmm, no.

[BasicThuganomics]

You've got to be kidding me. I say fire 'em both or send them back to OVW.


You're a fu</>cking idiot....

Fire them just because you don't think they have enough charisma? I agree that they definately need to branch out there characters more, But firing them or sending them back to OVW isn't going to help them one bit in that department. They don't need to pay their dues when they are already the most gifted tag team in the WWE. They have barely had any chances to show what they can do on the mic yet so don't assume that they have no talent whatsoever. People said that Matt Hardy had no mic talent or any charisma at all and look what happened to him? WGTT are two of the best in ring competitors in the WWE right now, and definately the best in the tag division. As for paying their dues, As I said before, when they are already incredible in ring workers what is the point of paying dues?

[Watson]

You're a fu</>cking idiot....

Fire them just because you don't think they have enough charisma? I agree that they definately need to branch out there characters more, But firing them or sending them back to OVW isn't going to help them one bit in that department. They don't need to pay their dues when they are already the most gifted tag team in the WWE. They have barely had any chances to show what they can do on the mic yet so don't assume that they have no talent whatsoever. People said that Matt Hardy had no mic talent or any charisma at all and look what happened to him? WGTT are two of the best in ring competitors in the WWE right now, and definately the best in the tag division. As for paying their dues, As I said before, when they are already incredible in ring workers what is the point of paying dues?


HaHa, What an award winning post. You're well on your way there pal. Ya know, I find it amusing to see some one get so worked up over such a simple topic. Somebody's sexually frustrated. Well friend, I don't give a virgin platypus' ass what you think for the simple fact that you, just like 13, insulted me for expressing MY opinions. Everybody has a right to their opinions and there's nothing wrong with debating them but when you start getting personal, you go too far and you end up make a big issue out of nothing. I suggest you grow up or get laid or something and stick your hostility up your ass. You believe what you believe and I'll do the same but if you gotta problem with what I say then you can argue your point rather than be a complete dick about the situation. You like WGTT, I think they suck elephant balls. Big f'ckin' deal, it's nothing to get your damn panties in a bunch about. Just chill the hell out. It's nothing to cry about. Geez. Relaxxx........................ :nono:

[Watson]

I accept your apology and respect your point of view, however; I don't agree with it. I believe that they haven't really given alot of guys in the back a chance to develope characters and show that they do in fact have charisma or what it takes to fully entertain an audience. Without promos or at least a couple vignettes, I don't believe that a credible analysis can be made on thier abilities to entertain.


Excellent Point

[BasicThuganomics]

HaHa, What an award winning post. You're well on your way there pal. Ya know, I find it amusing to see some one get so worked up over such a simple topic. Somebody's sexually frustrated. Well friend, I don't give a virgin platypus' ass what you think for the simple fact that you, just like 13, insulted me for expressing MY opinions. Everybody has a right to their opinions and there's nothing wrong with debating them but when you start getting personal, you go too far and you end up make a big issue out of nothing. I suggest you grow up or get laid or something and stick your hostility up your ass. You believe what you believe and I'll do the same but if you gotta problem with what I say then you can argue your point rather than be a complete dick about the situation. You like WGTT, I think they suck elephant balls. Big f'ckin' deal, it's nothing to get your damn panties in a bunch about. Just chill the hell out. It's nothing to cry about. Geez. Relaxxx........................ :nono:


If your dumbass will read past me calling you a fu</>cking idiot, you will see that I made valid reasons as to why I disagree with your post, and your opinion alltogether. Saying simply "they should be fired, or sent to OVW" was a dumb statement to make. And when you're making incorrect assumptions about me, it shows that you have nothing intelligent to say, so shut the hell up please? I wasn't in anyway upset by your statement, I called you a fu</>cking idiot because so far I think that you are one...

[ilt_undertaker]

<font color=Silver>I dont think they should be split up right now</font>

[Watson]

If your dumbass will read past me calling you a fu</>cking idiot, you will see that I made valid reasons as to why I disagree with your post, and your opinion alltogether. Saying simply "they should be fired, or sent to OVW" was a dumb statement to make. And when you're making incorrect assumptions about me, it shows that you have nothing intelligent to say, so shut the hell up please? I wasn't in anyway upset by your statement, I called you a fu</>cking idiot because so far I think that you are one...



Brilliant just brilliant. Got any more? You just don't know when to shut the f"ck up do you? Always gotta have a damn bad attitude about shlt. Man I don't give a flying f*ck what you say. You're just another f*ckin punk as "so-called smark" that thinks he knows it all. I didn't have a problem with you making your point. I had a problem with you being a complete prick about the situation. The fact that you insulted me right off the bat proves just how simple-minded you really are. Calling people idiots that you don't even f*cking know just goes to show what kind of bltch you really are. Go ahead, pal, keep flaming and making assumptions but I'm not gonna waste anymore of my time or TPWW's space arguing with the likes of you. So boo ****in' hoo BALL LICKER. BONG!!! :lol:

[BasicThuganomics]

I make more valid points and you make more stupid assumptions about me? You are wasting space on this meesage board dude...

You obviously give a fu</>ck what I say since you're getting so pissed off about it? You're the one resorting to nothing but insults and not doing anything to try and prove me wrong. You just get pissed and start saying stupid shit?

[Boondock Saint]

Back on topic...I say keep them together for at least another year. But begin giving them more and more personality.

[PureHatred]

and carried them well storline-wise
This still happens in the WWE?

Honestly, i like Benjamin a lot more than Haas, and I think both guys will eventually become very viable singles stars. But that's down the road. Unless they're given a manger to serve as a mouthpiece, I don't see them being able to carry a singles feud just yet.

[Corkscrewed]

Reckless One, though you may hate WGTT, sending them down to OVW really won't do anything. Your main beef is with their mic skills, but OVW would generally help with their technical skills.

You're right. They need mic time, but they're just a tag team, and really, they don't need that right now. There's no reason to send what is basically SD!'s best tag team down to OVW, and IMO, your statement there IS pretty ignorant. I don't care if you hate them, but suggesting they go to OVW is just absurd.

They can develop mic skills just as well on WWE TV as they would in OVW. In fact, it would probably be better to force a wrestler to develop his mic skills in the WWE because he can gauge the reaction of a bigger crowd.

Just my thoughts. They need to stay as a tag team, though Shelton did impress me with his work yesterday.

[John la Rock]

I say give them 1 or 2 more good runs as Tag Team Champs. Haas and Benjamin are great performers and they'll both be WWE Champ some time in the future :y:

[The Duck]

I'd like to RVD/Booker and Scotty/Rikishi end up on the same show (Smackdown). Unite the tag belts and make Smackdown focus on the Tag division. With a lack of serious tag teams I can not for the life of me understand the point of having two tag belts and this was highlighted at WrestleMania. Make tag-team wrestling exciting again and put the belts on Shelton and Charlie in the near future and let them run with it. They are far and away the best tag team in WWE right now and a strong reign with them as Champs would be beneficial.

[BasicThuganomics]

Yeah who else was impressed with Shelton on Smackdown this week? I thought that he showed alot of talent, and you would never geuss that he's been in the WWE for a little over a year. Charlie Haas had a short run in singles when Shelton was out with an injury last year and I remember him doing very well then too. Both of these guys will make great singles wrestlers, but they are really needed in the tag team division right now. To be honest even if all of the tag teams were brought to one show, I still think that they would be needed for awhile. They are the best tag team in the WWE right now by far IMO.

[thuganomicalcrippler]

WGTT is the WGTT. Plain and simple. When you have something that works that well together, you don't split it up. At least not just yet. If they did that now, I doubt either of them would be able to pull it off in the singles' division. When Benjamin had that injury, Haas was pretty good in the singles' division, but that was only for a month or so.

By separating them now, you might end up having two flop wrestlers and one missing tag team.

In the future though, I guarantee we will see both of them as WWE Champion. THat is, IF Trips dies before he's eighty.......