Terminator Salvation

[Jura]

Teaser Trailer: http://movies.yahoo.com/premieres/8841507/standardformat/

[Kalyx triaD]

Hell Yeah

[Crazy Nick]

awesome!

[Jura]

High five guys!

[Kalyx triaD]

http://www.manuelbieh.de/kram/blog_highfive.jpg

[Rammsteinmad]

Wow looks awesome!

Didn't know Christian Bale was gonna be in this. As if he wasn't big enough, this should get his name over huge!

Looks promising, and I'm a huge fan of the trilogy (even the third one), though I hope this isn't all CGI nonsense that looks fake.

Definitely excited about this though. :D

[D Mac]

No Nick Stahl? :shifty:

[ClockShot]

Also starring Moon "I can't hold a television show and have made some lousy movies lately, but I'm very hot" Bloodgood.

But McG is directing. Kinda worries me right now.

[Jeritron]

Am I the only one who doesn't think it looks good? Not to say it won't be, but theres nothing that looks good about that trailer. I think people are just buying that it will be good because Christian Bale is in it, but whats that matter? Great actors who pick great roles can and are in stinkers.

[Kalyx triaD]

Christian Bale's involvment makes no difference to me. Just ask before making conclusions, I'll tell you... really.

This movie takes place in a very improtant time in the mythology, so I'm there.

[thedamndest]

Am I the only one who doesn't think it looks good? Not to say it won't be, but theres nothing that looks good about that trailer. I think people are just buying that it will be good because Christian Bale is in it, but whats that matter? Great actors who pick great roles can and are in stinkers.

I'm in the middle about it. It's an interesting idea though. I mean every Friday the 13th movie is Jason stalking people, Home Alone is a kid setting traps for bad guys, Rocky is Rocky boxing some guys, Indiana Jones is Indy searching for an artifact, etc. Terminators 1-3 are basically action/chase movies, and now this new trilogy is the war. Has that been done before, where a franchise just switches its formula like that?

[Synopsis]

Is Swchartenigga in this?

[Kalyx triaD]

Let's say no. The T-800 series came later in the canon that this movie takes place in. Still, the explanation of the T-800 design was explained like three different times (my favorite being that it was made to look like a resistance fighter). So we could get a cameo by Arny as a human, which would be an interesting first for him in the series (yeah, I'm writing off that funny yet humiliating extra in T3).

[Fox]

Christian will carry it. I saw an interview he did about his role as John Connor and he seems really excited about it and into what they're doing with the new movie.

[Jon Kano]

Of course he does, he prob got paid like $180m to star in it

[Jura]

Well that trailer is a teaser trailer with emphasis on the word "teaser". Looks like they edited it to make it look like a transmission and hard for you to see what the hell is going on. I bet you once theatrical trailers come out you might change your mind.

[Kalyx triaD]

Almost in responce to my previous post, Arny will not be featured in TS, as the T-800 was recast with Roland Kickinger, who ironically played a young Arny in his biopic.

[Reavant]

that would be sweet if claire danes is still in this cuz i like her cuz shes hot

[Jeritron]

I'm in the middle about it. It's an interesting idea though. I mean every Friday the 13th movie is Jason stalking people, Home Alone is a kid setting traps for bad guys, Rocky is Rocky boxing some guys, Indiana Jones is Indy searching for an artifact, etc. Terminators 1-3 are basically action/chase movies, and now this new trilogy is the war. Has that been done before, where a franchise just switches its formula like that?

I dunno. The closest thing would prob be Alien, when the first one was a horror movie with a bunch of civillians/truckers running and hiding from one Alien, like a slasher.
Then the second was a small army of badasses going after them and it was an all out action movie.

[RP]

Look, I'm not going to see this if Arnold isnt in it. Thats like going to see a Halloween sequel and Michael Meyers not being in it.

...

[thedamndest]

I dunno. The closest thing would prob be Alien, when the first one was a horror movie with a bunch of civillians/truckers running and hiding from one Alien, like a slasher.
Then the second was a small army of badasses going after them and it was an all out action movie.

I thought about that too, but I look at the each Alien movie to be as much of a consequence of the director changes. You're still dealing with the core concept of "when the hell is that Alien gonna pop up and try and kill Ripley?"

[Kalyx triaD]

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/891/891959/terminator-salvation-the-future-begins-20080718104133103.jpg

John Conner... hates... robots.

Its odd seeing T-800s in the sunlight.

[The Mask]

it is odd but my fucking god i am so moist and hard for this. it can't possibly suck as bad as T3, especially since Christian Bale generally doesn't pick shit movies. :'(

[Reavant]

christian bale shits golden nuggets

[Jura]

http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mo/terminatorsalvationteaser_flash.jpg

[PorkSoda]

Comes out next year :D

Of course I'm going to see it and am physced, but do yall think theyve ridden the Terminator horse as far as it can go? I actually think I read somewhere that there will be 3 more installemnts (thats a rumor) which is too much. How long do yall think they should keep going?

[thedamndest]

Three movies does seem like a lot to plan on when you don't even know how well the first one will do without Arnold. I think it's good that they're not referring to this as Terminator 4: Salvation.

[Purgatory]

Yeah, this is more of the prequal to the whole series I guess. I'm glad they didn't try to build off the 3rd one. I never was a huge Christian Bale fan until I watched him in American Psycho. Hopefully, this one turns out to be a winner.

[Fox]

I see this as its own movie. Obviously the concept was ripped from elsewhere, but this is not just an action movie or a horror movie. It's a war movie.

[Sting Fan]

I think the concept is good and this could very well play out as an easy three movie set.

As Fox said its a stolen Concept but making new movies about the concept, a very good idea imo. This could really fill out the backstory of Terminator, I always felt there was so much more to be explored in this series.

[Kalyx triaD]

I know, I know, but I can't find the original thread and I wanted to add this great trailer so here we are. If you can find the first thread (and don't rib me if I overlooked it), make mention and I'll edit the Hell out of this thread and transform it into something proper.

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[thedamndest]

Trailer looks pretty good, but I don't have hopes for the movie. There's no point after 2.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm still interested in the series.

I'd probably watch anything with a killer android in it.

[thedamndest]

It's just that the first two movies were so good that they set the bar so high. I would almost prefer someone just tell me about the story than sit through non-James Cameron directing.

[Kalyx triaD]

I haven't seen a non-Cameron Terminator 'fail'. I enjoyed T3 on it's own merits and SCC is good TV. Then again... well... see my last post.

[thedamndest]

Fair enough. I liked the end of T3 and how the dealt with Sarah's death, but overall I didn't think it warranted an entire movie. I wouldn't say I considered T3 to be a failure, but it is the weakest of the series.

[Kalyx triaD]

Easily. And TX didn't feel like much of an upgrade from T1000.

[Fignuts]

Loved all three movies. Havn't gotten to SCC yet, but I plan to.

This looks pretty fucking awesome. What is that song in the trailer?

[G]

YAY ANOTHER EXCUSE TO POST THIS


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[Kalyx triaD]

Loved all three movies. Havn't gotten to SCC yet, but I plan to.

This looks pretty fucking awesome. What is that song in the trailer?

lalulrilalu

[Jeritron]

I see this being much better than 3, but much worse than 1 and 2. Pretty much on the same page as Thed. I don't see the need for non-Cameron Terminator. If it has to happen though, I'm obviously pulling for it to be good.
The concept here is nice. I wish they just did this as part 3 instead of re-treading the elements of the first 2 for an hour and a half in 3.

[Fignuts]

I believe it's NIN - "March".

Nah, just checked.

It's "'The day the whole world went away". There are like 100 versons. This one is off the album The Fragile.

[Fignuts]

I see this being much better than 3, but much worse than 1 and 2. Pretty much on the same page as Thed. I don't see the need for non-Cameron Terminator. If it has to happen though, I'm obviously pulling for it to be good.
The concept here is nice. I wish they just did this as part 3 instead of re-treading the elements of the first 2 for an hour and a half in 3.

Thi definitely looks like a different type of movie than previous terminators, so I think it's unfair to compare them. More of an epicwar movie, than a chase movie like previous installments.

[Jeritron]

Well yea, I'm comparing them on the notion of who's making them. The academy award winning director who created them and has only made top tier movies vs the guy who directed Charlies Angels 2. I just feel there's not much point in continuing to cash in off Cameron's baby without his involvement, but like I said, if it must be done I like this direction.

I hope its good is all I'm saying. The fact that it's a different type of movie is where I'm giving it props though. I think that's the best move they could make. Instead of re-treading the same type of story as the first two, with the hunter vs protector chase storyline, they're going in a new direction. They should have done this last time around.

[Jeritron]

Actually pretty interested by this whole exploration of them beginning to replicate humans. I don't know about them seemingly having "souls". Seems to undermine what made the relationship between Connor and Arnie in T2 special.
Either way, it's interesting. It's a ballsy gamble that I will credit for ambition. It will either make the movie way better, or way worse, than it would have been playing it safe.

[Kalyx triaD]

An unexpected thought/complaint I had was: "Do we need another good machine?"

I've noticed that every piece of Terminator media released since T2 has had a good machine. I wouldn't mind having every machine be 'evil' in Salvation.

Just a thought.

[Jeritron]

I think we need another machine as much as we need another Terminator movie. I guess that's just the route they want to go. I got the idea from the trailer that he's the villain though. Pretty sure he'll be an attempt at a grey area villain who thought he was a man, and snapped when accepting what he really was.

[Fignuts]

An unexpected thought/complaint I had was: "Do we need another good machine?"

I've noticed that every piece of Terminator media released since T2 has had a good machine. I wouldn't mind having every machine be 'evil' in Salvation.

Just a thought.

Seriously, T3 suffered because it was essentially the same format as T2. I thought it would have been awesome if both terminators were after them, as that hadn't been done.

[Kalyx triaD]

I think we need another machine as much as we need another Terminator movie. I guess that's just the route they want to go. I got the idea from the trailer that he's the villain though. Pretty sure he'll be an attempt at a grey area villain who thought he was a man, and snapped when accepting what he really was.

Dunno, looking like the sympathetic hero from the look of the trailers. It would be a nice swerve for him to 'give in' to whatever programming Skynet left him with. Kyle Reese came in T1 with nothing remotely nice to say about machines, perhaps something like this will happen.

[Jeritron]

Seriously, T3 suffered because it was essentially the same format as T2. I thought it would have been awesome if both terminators were after them, as that hadn't been done.

Def. Biggest problem with T3 is that they tried to replicate something that was nearly perfect in execution. I can't give them enough credit for going this route, regardless of the end product.

[Jeritron]

Dunno, looking like the sympathetic hero from the look of the trailers. It would be a nice swerve for him to 'give in' to whatever programming Skynet left him with. Kyle Reese came in T1 with nothing remotely nice to say about machines, perhaps something like this will happen.

You don't think thats him killing people and chasing Connor at the end?

[Fignuts]

I don't have a problem with the good terminator in the new one, as there is at least fresh twist on this one. Not just arnold back to prtect John Conner yet again.

[Kalyx triaD]

You don't think thats him killing people and chasing Connor at the end?

There's a lot of Terminators in the film.

[Jeritron]

This movie actually seems to be very similar to the Dawn of Fate video game that came out for PS2 back in like '02.
I remember it not being the greatest game in the world, but a ton of fun. A friend and I stayed up all night playing it once. The story was great.

[Jeritron]

There's a lot of Terminators in the film.

I just got the strong impression that was him, and a "boss" type. But we shall see.

[Fignuts]

You don't think thats him killing people and chasing Connor at the end?

I don't think they'd give tat huge a plot twist away in a trailer. If it is him, there is probably a different explanation for it than him turning.

[Jeritron]

It may just be in my head. I think I've seen another trailer with them fighting in the woods? That could also be just a scuffle.

[Fignuts]

Also, if this is a trilogy, I think Kyle Reese is going to get sent at the end of the second film. Or maybe even this one. Dunno, but I can't see the trilogy ending with it, because the war is still going when he gets sent back.

[Jeritron]

I'd like to see them incorporate the T-100's and their backstory at some point

[Kalyx triaD]

Also, if this is a trilogy, I think Kyle Reese is going to get sent at the end of the second film. Or maybe even this one. Dunno, but I can't see the trilogy ending with it, because the war is still going when he gets sent back.

Kyle's just a kid or something in this one, right? I do think him going back is some kind of end point/major event in the trilogy.

I'd be totally for a nod/crossover with SCC at some point. Technically, the other 'Reese Boy' should be around.

[Fignuts]

It definitely will happen at some point, but the trilogy shoul end with the war ending, not with the beginning of T1, otherwise there is absolutely no closure.

[Jeritron]

What would happen, hypothetically, if Reese died in the future war before getting sent back? Would Connor cease to exist? Would the universe collapse? Would Connor send himself back to save his mother (anonymously)? Would someone else rise as leader of the resistance as a result of the latter?

I think that's interesting territory

[Fignuts]

Oh god, please let's not get into debating the nuances of a time travel plot. No time travel movie has ever been without plot holes.

[Jeritron]

I think that's because the human concept of "time" and existence is full of plot holes

[Kalyx triaD]

The series may never end, since it's one big-ass time loop. Connor and Skynet created themselves by sending back agents to begin with. There could be the idea that they knew of their own origins, but we'll never know for sure what really started the war.

All we know is that both Connor and Skynet f'd up by securing their own tools for each other's defeats. Skynet's 'T-Arny' in T1 left it's arm, which led to the creation of Skynet. Connor sent Reese who eventually fathered him.

Oh, then T3 came and shat on all that with the whole 'it's destiny' bullshit. I liked the time related theorems in place before hand. Some people hate the arguments that appear in scenarios like that but I like them.

[The Mask]

http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi3424453401/

i haven't really just cum, but only because i've been wanking too much upon my return. seriously though, holy shit. i was sort of apprehensive about it being lame and stuff from the past trailers which only showed glimpses, but this looks like it could be up there with the first two, albeit in a different kind of way.

fuckkkk..

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[The Mask]

seriously how has this not got 500 replies right now. you're all cunts.

[Xero]

Thought this was supposed to be set in 2009...

Either way, :love:

[DrA]

"If we stay the course, we are all dead." Those liberal Hollywood scum are putting their propaganda in their movies.

[Ogen]

This video is not available in my country

[Xero]

"If we stay the course, we are all dead." Those liberal Hollywood scum are putting their propaganda in their movies.

lol

[Fignuts]

seriously how has this not got 500 replies right now. you're all cunts.

cause there was already a thread on it.


you cunt

[G]

cause there was already a thread on it.


you cunt



I was going to say the same. We've already been down this road.

http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=87928

[Ogen]

That thread is much better I'm allowed watch that video

[Ogen]

Looks quite good actually

[The Destroyer]

This video is not available in my country
Clearly some sort of anti-Irish bias, I watched it with no problems. :(

Good trailer, can't wait to see the actual film. :y:

[G]

The Mask is 2 for 2 with this and the beat boxing flute guy.

[D Mac]

Yep, definately going to see it.

[Kalyx triaD]

Wow. Scroll the page, kids.

[Jon Kano]

So glad Bale is in this.

I also came. I really did. I love machines.

[Kane86]

THAT IS GOING TO BE FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!

[Jon Kano]

I read that Shia Lebuff or whatever, he totaled his truck or something, busted up his hand so bad, they worked the injury into the storyline, swear I saw a pic of him with a bandage on his hand.

One thing I don't like at the mo - Optimus got fucking battered in the first one, and by the looks of it, he is going to get trashed even more. He is supposed to be the leader/best warrior, right?

[mitchables]

I read that Shia Lebuff or whatever, he totaled his truck or something, busted up his hand so bad, they worked the injury into the storyline, swear I saw a pic of him with a bandage on his hand.

One thing I don't like at the mo - Optimus got fucking battered in the first one, and by the looks of it, he is going to get trashed even more. He is supposed to be the leader/best warrior, right?

Earth to Planet Kano: wrong film.

[Jon Kano]

Well what film is it then?

[Jeritron]

Donnie Darko 3

[The Mask]

imagine optimus prime turned up to save humanity from skynet. mad swerve.

[Xero]

lol

[RP]

Yah theres a bit of jiz in my pants now. Especially where Marcus Wright thinks he's human and Bale shows him his body. Amazing stuff.

[Jon Kano]

So you get off on watching guys look at their own body? niice.

[The Mask]

Linda Hamilton has been confirmed for Terminator Salvation.

In February, the actress who played Sarah Connor in Terminator and T2 told MTV that she was in negotiations with director McG for voice over work. Her part would be to establish the setting like she had in T2 and lend more credibility to any remaining skeptics.

Chud has confirmed she not only has signed for the voice work, but has already cut the audio and it’s attached to the opening sequence.

This is good news for more than just a familiar voice. Hamilton turned down a reprisal in Terminator 3 because she felt the filmmakers weren’t honoring the first two in the series. Her commitment, though relatively small, means she believes in the new installment that kicks off a new Terminator trilogy.

Now if we could only get official word on the part Arnold Schwarzenegger may play in the movie.

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sweeeeeeeeeeeeet

[The Mask]

During Production Arnold Schwarzenegger made appearances on set with director McG fueling the speculation that the original Terminator will in fact return for a brief cameo.

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sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

[Kalyx triaD]

This thread is shameless. I am raging with e-anger.

[thedamndest]

Wait, the first post in your thread says that it is also a remake. WHAT IS THE DEAL?

[Kalyx triaD]

lol Are you serious?

I know, I know, but I can't find the original thread and I wanted to add this great trailer so here we are. If you can find the first thread (and don't rib me if I overlooked it), make mention and I'll edit the Hell out of this thread and transform it into something proper.

No... not the same, buddy.

E-Rage!!!

[Kalyx triaD]

Mind you, I don't care personally, it's not like I'm jealous or some shit. Hard to explain, I just can't stand duplicate threads when the first thread was within reach. It could be anybody's thread.

[thedamndest]

If anyone knows how you feel, it's me. I just had my movie remake thread remade. We should start a support group for people who have their threads remade.

[Kalyx triaD]

Or fund education programs that will advice people to scroll down a few pixels.

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[RP]

this might be the most bad ass movie trailer ever.

[Jon Kano]

What would happen, hypothetically, if Reese died in the future war before getting sent back? Would Connor cease to exist? Would the universe collapse? Would Connor send himself back to save his mother (anonymously)? Would someone else rise as leader of the resistance as a result of the latter?

I think that's interesting territory

so your saying its possible John Connor will of fucked his own mother? Assuming you meant when Kyle 'saves' her

[Hanso Amore]

I think the one thing you all have to keep in mind, is that there is not one timeline that they are altering...

Each time someone goes into the past and changes something, there is a new history.



The way I look at it is this.

The World Ends. Connor becomes a leader.

Terminator and Reese go back, Reese Fathers a child with Connors mom...making a new John Connor. He is raised to become who he is supposed to be, but it is not the same John Connor that sends back reese.. New timeline. Alternate 1985 if you will.

because of the first Terminator, Skynet speeds up and happens faster, so the new Connor (son of Reese) sends back a terminator to protect himself and end skynet. By destroying those chips at the end of T2, they create a new timeline, where Skynet takes longer to come around.

Thats where T3 comes in...Connor is not the same person as the original Connor, because of Reese, and struggles to become a leader. Skynet finally brings about the end of the world at a later date.

I do not know how the new one will tie in, but the thing to remember is with every movie the future changes. That is why in the trailers the future is not what it was supposed to be, and is different. Because of all the changes.

[Hanso Amore]

So, to elaborate.

original Connor leads the resistance.

Reese comes back, fathers a child who they raise to be the John Connor Reese talked about, preparing for the future than Reese knew.

Things continually change throughout the movies because of their pre-knowledge and events.

[The Mask]

A digital representation of Arnold Schwarzenegger has reportedly been confirmed to appear in Terminator Salvation.

The governor of California recently said that he would not be filming a cameo role for the sequel, but would still appear if the technology made it possible.

It has emerged that a body-cast of the actor made when he first appeared in The Terminator provided the foundation for digital effects to bring his image to life in a cameo role, Variety reports.

Schwarzenegger has reportedly seen the footage and given director McG his approval for it to be used when Terminator Salvation is released in the US next month.

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so it has linda hamilton and arnie both with sort of roles in the film. this is awesome.

[Kalyx triaD]

If Salvation 2 rolls around and Arnie's done with his term, hopefully he could show up in a bigger role as one of Conner's men!

[The Mask]

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:nono:

[Fignuts]

wtf

[The Mask]

im glad it is the first terminator arnie coming back. he is a fucking monster.

http://www.zap2it.com/media/photo/2008-12/44282396.jpg

[Hanso Amore]

I had a dream about this movie last night.

basically I was in it, and based on what I have seen in Trailers and my own thoughts on the movie, it was like a 4 hour epic dream that was greater than anything this movie could ever be.

[The Mackem]

LOL, well done Hanso.

[Kalyx triaD]

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:nono:

Not Canon :)

Funny, though.

[The Mask]

im pretty sure sgt candy is, even if that bit of footage isn't

[Kalyx triaD]

He hasn't been referenced anywhere outside of that [cut] clip. The Terminator fan community are pretty much decided that he isn't in-continuity.

[The Mask]

sweet. looked it up and i think you're right. sure i'd read he was a character in a book or something but i guess not.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Reavant]

awsome

[Sting Fan]

So pumped, cant wait.

[YOUR Hero]

Screw Transformers, this movie has machines and a story one can care about.

I'm pumped for this movie. Anyone else. ?

[G]

http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=87928

:nono:

[Ogen]

People sure were pumped in the other two threads :(

[Ogen]

FUck off G :(

[YOUR Hero]

DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM!?

[Heros Welcome]

This movie is going to kick all kinds off ass, so the more threads the better!

[G]

FUck off G :(

5 minutes in between posts. :-\

[Jeritron]

Not sure if it will be better than either Transformers. Not sure if it will even be good. I'll wait until I've seen them to make that ruling.

[G]

This will make half of what Transformers does at the "Box Office"

[Jeritron]

It will probably get beaten by Night at the Museum 2 this weekend, which is funny and sad at the same time.

[G]

I want to see that so fucking bad. First one is one of my favorite movies.




shut up

[The Mask]

i can't wait. i'm gutted it gets released earlier in north america cause i'm gonna be tempted to download it or spoil it for myself which is shit.

[Heros Welcome]

Just got back from seeing it and I loved it!

I think the critics went in with expectations too high. We all know that there's not going to be another T1 or T2. I thought T3 was fun to watch but for this I felt it was better then the previous.

Its a summer movie that was really fun to watch and I can't wait to see if they do in fact make another.

I say GO SEE IT

[Jeritron]

Just got back from it and didn't love it. I didn't "hate it."

It wasn't awful. It had it's moments, but they were all nostalgia trips. The movie didn't really offer anything new. The plot was somewhat boring and the characters were borderline awful.
Marcus Wright was cool, but they didn't do anything more with him than was shown in the trailer. There was no depth or examination there.

Action scenes were great. Overall I say, not bad but pretty damn mediocre. If you're a sucker for gunfire and explosions, it will not dissapoint, but I can't really see anything in the plot/characters/ or Terminator mythology that would please the mind.

[Shaggy]

Just saw it this afternoon and was really let down by it....

Its funny because I went in having very low expectations but then they were raised up in the upcomming weeks only to be shot down when watching it.

I actually didnt care for Bales performance and thought it wasnt that great but really loved Sam Worthingtons performance.

I think the main reason I didnt care for the movie was because it suffers from the fact that we already knew so much about it from the other three films....

We already know from the other films that Conner, Reese and Kate are alive and well a while into the resistance so the fear of any of these characters dying was no were near my head. Granted the end did have me thinking other wise for just a split second considering it plays along with what Arnold says in T3.

But 2 things that I absolutely loved about the film...

I loved the little twist near the end where it was revealed that Marcus was actualy working for the machines without himself knowing it. Also it was pretty good how the Machines turned the signal beacon back on the Resistance...

But the greatest moment of all was when the door to the chamber blasts open and out walks Arnold..the whole theater actually cheered a bit.

[dronepool]

I liked it, it was good. It would have been nice if it was a bit longer to span out more things- but it's still good. I hope we get a longer directors cut DVD/Bluray.

on my first viewing it gets 3.5 out of 5.

[CharismaInjection]

Anyone likely to have a picture of the T-800 (Arnies' Terminator) from the film soon?
Once I heared they were digitally putting Arnie's face on a body double's body, ive been very curious to see how it turned out.

[Shaggy]

Anyone likely to have a picture of the T-800 (Arnies' Terminator) from the film soon?
Once I heared they were digitally putting Arnie's face on a body double's body, ive been very curious to see how it turned out.

Better than anyone could have expected.... Looked like Arnold from T1 had come back.

[Jeritron]

From far away it looked legit. When they showed it up close it looked kinda like a video game though

[Kris P Lettus]

My bother saw it yesterday and said it was a HUGE disappointment..

[Reavant]

anyone who says this movie sucked is an idiot... it was awsome and had a really good storyline

[Kris P Lettus]

He just said that he was expecting huge war scenes between the human and machines and never got that..

[G]

OOOOHHHHHHH GOOD

[Fox]

He just said that he was expecting huge war scenes between the human and machines and never got that..

Wow, that's stupid. I mean, why would they put huge war scenes of humans and robots fighting in a movie about a war between humans and killer robots? That would make sense and be awesome.

[Hanso Amore]

I liked the movie for the most part.

I kind of wish they would have changed the ending a bit though.

And when they revealed MArcus as a machine in the trailer, they gave way too much away...no surprise to this movie.

I think it has too big of epectations to live up to.

They didnt try to make a classic here, they tried to reboot a franchise and set up for sequels.

I compare this, oddly enough, to another Bale Movie....The Dark Knight.

Good (Not Great) Movie, restarting a franchise. I just hope round 2 can live up to the Dark Knight...

[Hanso Amore]

I mean, what if the next flick comes around and is 2 hours of Epic Machine Battle...This Franchise still has alot to offer.

[YOUR Hero]

From what I have read (admitedly not alllll that much) it wasn't really a reboot, but a continuation, a clip of action and story we 'kinda' already knew.

Yes?/No?

[Hanso Amore]

Well it is not a full on reboot

But it brings forth the idea that they are in a new Future, which has changed. Everything is different, and I think they are move the franchise in a new direction, and this was a setup.

[Zeeboe]

Saw this last Monday, and really enjoyed it. Christian Bale was great. So was that kid who played Kyle Reese. He had the same tone of voice that Michael Biehn had in the first Terminator. He even made simular facial expressions. The kid must have studied Biehn's acting from the first one.

I thought the best part of the movie....

....was when Arnold showed up. Granted, it was a CGI Arnold, but still, I felt like clapping and cheering when he appeared, and was smiling like a fanboy.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Okay, I have a major problem with the ending, mainly from a writing/directing standpoint.


Why in the fuck did the movie not end with them burying Marcus? After all the talk of "The difference between humans and robots is we bury our dead." and "No one will be there to bury you." Seriously, most of the movie revolves around him either being human or machine, yet they leave out the fricking obvious scene that should be in it? Come on.

[Xero]

It was okay. I thought they put WAY too much emphasis on the action and not enough on the story.

My biggest problem, and someone explain to me if there's a reason for this...

There were no dogs in the film except during the resistance base escape scene, and there you only hear them. It's established I think in the first film (and reinforced in the second) that dogs can sense Terminators and that a lot of survivors have dogs in the future for that very reason. At the very least there should have been a few near the base's entrance.

The ONLY reason I can see this happening is if they discover this after 2016, which makes no sense to me.

That was the only plot hole I had a problem with.

[Gerard]

Anyone likely to have a picture of the T-800 (Arnies' Terminator) from the film soon?
Once I heared they were digitally putting Arnie's face on a body double's body, ive been very curious to see how it turned out.

theres a few vids on youtube, one has apart of the fight buts its pretty hard to make out though gives you an idea of how he looks, definately more terminator 1 look than t2.

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Then theres this vid that seems to have 2 pretty clear stills from the movie, i won't embed it as it shows the pic as part of the description and some poeple are prone to shitting their pants over stuff like this if theyve not seen it yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t55406ioXPU&feature=related

[CharismaInjection]

Do we hear Arnie's Terminator talk? I heared a rumour he was providing his voice

[Gerard]

Do we hear Arnie's Terminator talk? I heared a rumour he was providing his voice

I heard the same thing but from what ive read he doesn't speak.

[Xero]

I heard the same, but no, he did not speak.

[The Chris Rosa]

So anyway, yeah, this movie sucked.




I'll never understand why suits in charge of multimillion dollar franchises always make piss poor decisions about films and who directs/stars/writes/produces (This is a general statement, more specifically, I'm bitching about McG). It's like every damn company besides a select few just purposely shill trash as fast as possible just because people will conusme it and come back for more....




Wait a minute...

[D Mac]

Okay, I have a major problem with the ending, mainly from a writing/directing standpoint.


Why in the fuck did the movie not end with them burying Marcus? After all the talk of "The difference between humans and robots is we bury our dead." and "No one will be there to bury you." Seriously, most of the movie revolves around him either being human or machine, yet they leave out the fricking obvious scene that should be in it? Come on.


I'm guessing he'll probably be back if they make another one.

Yeah, I thought this movie was pretty fun and marked out like a bitch when "Ahnold" appeared.

[The Mask]

i like it. it obviously wasn't as good as the first two but it was way better than i originally hoped, especially after reading some of the reviews. totally dicked over T3. i heard a few people say it's bales worst performance to date as well which i don't particularly agree with (though i can't really name you a bad performance). he sort of played connor with an semi-emotional detatchment which i think is fitting, especially when you see that detatchment break in a few scenes but in a really subtle way (when he first returns back to his missus and when he first meets kyle). i was a little bit disappointed there wasn't a bigger response when he first sees the arnie terminator.

i think there were a few stupid bits but overall it's a good continuation of the franchise and the marcus character is a really good idea.

don't agree there should be huge battles with terminators either. in fact i thought it was kinda stupid they had big plane to HK dogfights, i'd like it approached more like kyle and star or whatever she's called destroyed the terminator with the minigun, with traps and what not. going into a big lord of the rings battle against near bulletproof machines would be stupid.

[Reavant]

when do they get the laser weapons they had in T2 flash forwords?

[Sixx]

OK so could someone tell me was it Arnold's face on Roland Kickinger's body or what?

[Hanso Amore]

OK so could someone tell me was it Arnold's face on Roland Kickinger's body or what?

Yes

[Gerard]

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Thats a new trailer which pretty much has all the closeups of cgi arnie in it.

[Stickman]

Maybe I'm lost in the plot line of the 4 movies, and maybe the past has been changed because of the future or something but are we ever going to see how the time machine sent Arnie back in time for the first 2? And how about the T9000 or whatever the liquid terminator in T2 came about? Are they just ignoring the first few movies and going off on tangents?

Like I say, maybe I am lost and all that was explained.

[Reavant]

well, he has to send back kyle first, and when he does that, hes already the savior of man kind so that has to happen first

[The Destroyer]

I quite enjoyed it. Went into it with fairly low expectations after all the bad reviews it's been getting, but I didn't find anywhere as bad as the critics have been making out.

They really shouldn't have revealed who or what Marcus was in the trailers though, kind of killed the eventual reveal.

[Hanso Amore]

I quite enjoyed it. Went into it with fairly low expectations after all the bad reviews it's been getting, but I didn't find anywhere as bad as the critics have been making out.

They really shouldn't have revealed who or what Marcus was in the trailers though, kind of killed the eventual reveal.

I know.

Imagine how cool that would haev been of a revelation...although it was pretty well given away when he first arrives, either way. They should have had the first scene come as a memory when he got to skynet.

[RoXer]

Don't you need the same blood type to have any kind of transplant?

[RoXer]

And don't you have to like take pills and shit for the rest of your life?

[Reavant]

not in the future :roll:

[YOUR Hero]

yeah.

not in the future when nukes are being dropped.

[The Mask]

ok watched it again. when they first break into skynet did anyone see connor shine his light on marcus lay on a bunk type thing with blood in his arm? i could've sworn it was him.

[The Destroyer]

Yeah I think he did - could have been he was "downloaded" into a new body, with his old one being so damaged (since he did look immaculate when he woke up in Skynet) - what we saw there was the old damaged body.

Otherwise it could have just been a poor random sucker who that their blood harvested for the T-800.

[The Destroyer]

Never mind, we're thinking about two different parts of the film. :'(

I could have sworn I saw something very similar with Marcus towards the end though.