So who dose the "Death match" appeal to here?

[Rollermacka]

I was watching some IWA matches between Mad Man Pondo and Brain Damage and I was just wondering who here likes the "OMG Death Destroy Kill Omega Hardcore Matches". Dont get me wrong I like old school ECW and when Norman Smiley use to show up for WCW hardcore matches in football, hockey, or catchers pads it was funny. I just find some of them like with tin cans glued to a crowbar covered in glass and wrapped in barbed wire then set on fire just cheesy and stupid. I know that there are some wrestlers on this forum do/did you do these kinda death matches and why or why not?

[Xero]

This thread calls for A MONTAGE!

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[Destor]

I watch em yeah. But there really isn't anything I don't watch. Hell I'm watching RAW right now, got pretty low standards.

And no I don't work a death match style, mostly because those matches take years off your career and it's usually in front of 5-14 people.

[Londoner]

Totally agree, they're 'cheesy and stupid'.

[Destor]

Awesome Xero.

[Rollermacka]

This thread calls for A MONTAGE!

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That is an awsome montage and even though it's been shown before I think this needs to be added in too. I call it "Darwinism at work"

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[U-Warrior]

Deathmatch wrestling done well: FMW, ECW, and to a lesser extent Big Japan

Deathmatch wrestling done poorly: Everything else

[Destor]

ECW really didn't too much death match stuff though.

(And I think BJPW is better than FMW)

[Rammsteinmad]

To be honest they've always looked kinda shit to me. Though I have seen one or two decent matches, for the most part I'm on the whole garbage-wrestling bandwagon thing.

[U-Warrior]

ECW really didn't too much death match stuff though.

(And I think BJPW is better than FMW)

Dunno, I think FMW just had better talent.

[Dave Youell]

I think you are asking the wrong question, it’s not a case of where it’s done, it’s a case of who does it.

E.g Funk, Cactus, Tanaka, Sabu, Onita. Know HOW to work that style, it’s more than just hitting each other for the sake of it with weird and wacky shit, it’s about the build to the use of the wacky shit. Just like with high spot cruiserweight matches, you have to build up to the spots to make the crowd care about them more, not hitting a 450 as one of the opening moves.

Right now, IMO there’s no one that does death matches properly, I don’t consider IWA/CZW to be in the same league as the death matches of the last decade, right now it’s a case of how many light tubes can I hit you with in 10 minutes, at least back then, it was a build to something insane at the end that was teased all the way through, like C4 explosions for example.

Death Match/Hardcore Matches did use to have an element of skill to them, nowadays it’s a haven for people who don’t know how to work properly

[U-Warrior]

Youell nailed it.

Pretty much why I think FMW was superior to Big Japan. They had more guys who knew how to work that style, and imo, they knew it better than the BJ guys. Atsushi Onita, Tarzan Goto, Masato Tanaka, Mr. Pogo, Matsunaga, Kintaro Kanemaru, Mike Awesome, Bad Boy Hido, Mr. Gannosuke, Fuyuki, Tetsuhiro Kuroda, Hayabusa when he went Darkside....

I could go on, and for my money, all those guys can work the deathmatch better than the BJ guys. Ryuji Ito, and Takeshi Sasaki might be able to top some of the names, but they're no Onita or Pogo, and likely never will be.