PWI 500 '08

[Destor]

1.Randy Orton
2.Kurt Angle
3.Triple H
4.Samoa Joe
5.Edge
6.The Undertaker
7.Shawn Michaels
8.Nigel McGuiness
9.John Cena
10.Shinsuke Nakamura
11.Takeshi Morishima
12.Ultimo Guerrero
13.Bryan Danielson
14.Christian Cage
15.Batista
16.Keiji Muto
17.Mistico
18.Jeff Hardy
19.Ric Flair
20.Hiroshi Tanahashi
21.AJ Styles
22. Perro Aguayo Jr.
23.MVP
24.CM Punk
25.Tomko
26.Mesias
27.Jay Lethal
28. Dr. Wagner Jr.
29.Chris Jericho
30.Kensuke Sasaki
31.Austin Aries
32.Cibernetico
33.Kane
34.Booker T
35. Mr.Kennedy
36. Chavo Guerrero Jr.
37.Umaga
38.Robert Roode
39.Suwama
40.JBL
41.Matt Hardy
42.James Storm
43.John Morrison
44.Adam Pearce
45.Kaz
46.CIMA
47.Minoru Suzuki
48.Petey Williams
49.Jay Briscoe
50.Mark Briscoe
51.Big Show
52.Claudio Castagnoli
53.Giant Bernard
54.The Miz
55.William Regal
56.Finlay
57.Yuji Nagata
58.Chris Hero
59. Rey Mysterio Jr.
60.Eric Young
61.Rhino
62.Shelton Benjamin
63.Carlito
64.Scott Steiner
65.Mark Henry
66.Chuck Palumbo
67.Homicide
68.Averno
69.Chris Sabin
70.Alex Shelley
71.Zorro
72.Hernandez
73. Dos Caras Jr.
74.Jimmy Jacobs
75.Orlando Colon
76.Kofi Kingston
77.Alan Stone
78.Brother Ray
79.Cody Rhodes
80.Lance Cade
81.Sonjay Dutt
82.Brother Devon
83.The Great Khali
84.Sting
85.El Hijo del Santo
86.Kenta Kobashi
87.Mitsuharu Misawa
88.Tyler Black
89.Masato Tanaka
90.Naomichi Marufuji
91.Santino Marella
92.Hardcore Holly
93.Satoshi Kojima
94.Ron Killings
95.Curry Man
96.Trevor Murdoch
97.KENTA
98.Charly Manson
99.Elijah Burke
100.Toshiaki Kawada
101.Nick Dinsmore
102.Chessman
103.Roderick Strong
104.Abyss
105.Mephisto
106.Festus
107.Davey Richards
108.Rocky Romero
109.Atlantis
110.El Condor
111.Brian Kendrick
112.Negro Casas
113.Halloween
114.Tommy Dreamer
115.Rey Bucanero
116.Paul London
117.Jerry Lynn
118.Wataru Inoue
119.Jushin Liger
120.Brent Albright
121. Blue Demon Jr.
122.Shark Boy
123.Hector Garza
124.Blitz
125.Jamie Noble
126.Matt Morgan
127.Black Reign
128.Black Warrior
129.Kevin Steen
130.Johnny Devine
131.Paul Birchall
132.Kip James
133.Sangre Azteca
134.Snitsky
135.Togi Makabe
136.Erick Stevens
137.Masato Yoshino
138. Mr.Niebla
139. B.G.James
140.Zack Ryder
141.Curt Hawkins
142.Juventud Guerrera
143.El Generico
144.Jimmy Wang Yang
145.Jack Evans
146. Mr.Aguila
147.Jesse
148.Joe Doering
149.Vladmir Kozlov
150.Lance Hoyt
151.Mike Knox
152.BJ Whitmer
153.Joey Matthews
154.Big Daddy V
155.Masahiro Chono
156.Delirious
157.Mike Quackenbush
158.Milano Collection AT
159.Shannon Moore
160.Jimmy Rave
161.Rellik
162.Necro Butcher
163.Eddie Colon
164.Yoshihiro Takayama
165.Deuce
166.Matt Striker
167.Chicano
168.Mike DiBiase
169.Domino
170.Steve Corino
171.Shawn Spears
172.Marco Corleone
173.Bryan Logan
174.Yoshinobu Kanemaru
175.Glen Osbourne
176.Manabu Nakanishi
177.Shad Gaspard
178.Go Shiozaki
179.Eric Perez
180.Rory Fox
181.Dragon Kid
182.Toru Yano
183.Joey Ryan
184.Charlie Haas
185.JTG
186.Kevin Nash
187. Ted DiBiase Jr.
188.Human Tornado
189.Nic Nemeth
190.Chris Harris
191. Volador Jr.
192.La Sombra
193.Heath Miller
194.Super Crazy
195.Consequences Creed
196.Rory McAllister
197. D.H.Smith
198.Robbie McAllister
199.Ruckus
200.Pac
201.Katsuhiko Nakajima
202.Jigsaw
203.Scott Lost
204.Rob Eckos
205.Ricky Reyes
206.Billy Bax
207.Tiger Mask IV
208.Matt Cross
209.El Sagrado
210.Stevie Richards
211.Tatsumi Fujinami
212. L.A.Park
213.Rikishi
214.Ryusuke Taguchi
215.Evan Bourne
216.Jay Bradley
217.Josh Prohibition
218.Shinjiro Otani
219.Drew McIntyre
220.D'Lo Brown
221.Elix Skipper
222.Jake Hager
223.Chris Masters
224.Shawn Daivari
225.Naruki Doi
226.Sheamus O'Shaunessy
227.Low-Ki
228.Kid Kash
229.Hiromi Horiguchi
230.2 Cold Scorpio
231.Ace Steel
232.Adam Flash
233.Kenzo Suzuki
234.Hiroyoshi Tenzan
235.Ricky Vega
236.Teddy Hart
237.Minoru Fujita
238.La Mascara
239.Puma
240.Heavy Metal
241. T.J.Wilson
242.Taru
243.Balls Mahoney
244.Danny Doring
245.Colt Cabana
246.Chris Cage
247.Josh Daniels
248.KUDO
249.La Parka
250.Sabu
251.Takeshi Rikio
252.Chad Collyer
253.Jason Blade
254.Olimpico
255.Masaaki Mochizuki
256.Pepper Parks
257.Damian 666
258.Matt Logan
259.Ephesto
260.Christian York
261.Mike Mondo
262.Rob Conway
263.Shocker
264.Nunzio
265.Xavier
266.Vito
267.Kenny Dykstra
268.Chris Joel
269.Alex Koslov
270.Gran Akuma
271.Ron Zombie
272.Icarus
273.Derek Frazier
274.Noriega
275.Lince Dorado
276.Intocable
277.Jun Akiyama
278.Eddie Kingston
279.Mad Man Pondo
280.Scott Cardinal
281.Michael Sain
282. Lizmark Jr.
283.Shingo Takagi
284.Super Hentai
285.Chad Parham
286.Maximo
287.Kevin Dunn
288.Mean Marcos
289.Hallowicked
290.Kotaro Suzuki
291.Brazo de Plata
292.Joe Bravo
293.Phoenix Star
294.Brain Damage
295.Ricky Landell
296.Bam Neely
297.Felino
298.Larry Sweeney
299.Joker
300.Devon Moore
301.Ricky Marvin
302.Zokre
303.Bobby Fish
304.Tank Toland
305.Helios
306.Black Pain
307.Pelle Primeau
308.Naoya Ogawa
309.Chuck Taylor
310.Bruiser
311.Rhett Titus
312.Abismo Negro
313.Blue Panther
314.Savio Vega
315.Ultimo Dragon
316.Kevin Thorn
317.Frederick of Hollywood
318.Val Venis
319.Tom Brandi
320.Mitch Ryder
321.TAKA Michinoku
322.Damian
323.Tyson Dux
324.Aden Chambers
325.Crazy Boy
326.Adam Flash
327.Taku Iwasa
328.Incognito
329.Anthony Bravado
330.Thunder
331.Andrew Ryker
332.Spike Dudley
333.Jorge Rivera
334.The Atomic Dogg
335.Lightning
336.Bryan Kelly
337.Judas Young
338.Taiyo Kea
339.Kaz Hayashi
340.Hyjinx
341.Sterling James Keenan
342.Arik Cannon
343.Shane Hagadorn
344.El Pantera
345.Kassidy James
346.Max Von Bauer
347.Doug Williams
348.Al Snow
349.Sinn Bowdie
350.John McChesney
351.Shayne Hawke
352.Truitt Fields
353.John Kermon
354.Cruzz
355.Orlando Jordan
356.Robert Anthony
357.UltraMantis Black
358.Steve Lewington
359.Johnny Kashmere
360.2 Dope
361.Mikey Whipwreck
362.Tajiri
363.Mike Kurel
364.N8 Mattson
365.Takashi Iizuka
366.Noel Rodriguez
367.El Gran Apache
368. Afa Jr.
369.Qeenan Creed
370.Diabolico
371.Shane Storm
372.Johnny Curtis
373.Kahagas
374.Romeo Roselli
375.Bobby Dempsey
376.Rudy Switchblade
377.Jim Duggan
378.Trent Acid
379.Kafu
380.Jerry Lawler
381.Shiima Xion
382.Atlas DaBone
383.Scott Wright
384.Navajo Warrior
385.Sal Rinauro
386.Robin Knightwing
387.Scott Zenzen
388.Joey Knight
389.Sean Waltman
390.Jamin Olivencia
391.Kevin Grace
392.BxB Hulk
393.Sho Funaki
394.Azrieal
395. J.D.Michaels
396.Richard Rondon
397.Titan
398.Antonio Thomas
399.Ace Darling
400.Colin Delaney
401.Larry Huntley
402.Chasyn Rance
403.Rycklon
404.Billy Roc
405.Nate Bash
406.Iceberg
407.Armando Estrada
408.Charles Evans
409.Mike Reed
410.Johnny Gargano
411.Jumping Jeff Jeffrey
412.Jonny Puma
413.Benjamin Sailer
414.The Stro
415.Leslie Leatherman
416.Freak Nastty
417.Ali Akbar
418.Luke Hawx
419.Derek Wylde
420.Milwaukee Mauler
421.Robere Shields
422.Omega
423.Dan Eckos
424.Hawaiian Lion
425.Johnny Ova
426.Zachary Shane
427.Cody Deaner
428.Ric Converse
429.Mega
430.Sami Callahan
431.Soldier Ant
432.Sean Royal
433.Kornbred
434.Tank
435.Hade Vansen
436.Prince Nana
437.Brodie Lee
438.Rob Terry
439.Fire Ant
440.Dan Paysan
441.Red Anderson
442.Andy Dalton
443.Zach Gowan
444.Carlitos
445.Dylan Starr
446.Eric Everlast
447.Ron Falco
448.Joe Gibson
449.Jeremy Wyatt
450. Mister St.Laurent
451.Omar Akbar
452.Shawn Cook
453.Kenny King
454.Kirby Mack
455.Drew Blood
456.Nate Laws
457.Brian Soscia
458.Shorty Smalls
459.Crazy Rudy
460.Ric Byrne
461. T.J.Mack
462.Maifu
463.Mikal Judas
464.Phil Shatter
465.Robby Starr
466.Saifu
467.Phil Atlas
468.Jimmy Olsen
469.Mike Tobin
470.Corporal Robinson
471.Slim J
472.Ryan McBride
473.Chance Prophet
474.Hiram Tua
475.Mozart Fontaine
476.Matt Riviera
477.Hook Bomberry
478.Mastiff
479.Pinke LaRue
480.Chris Stone
481.Supreme Lee Great
482.Teddy Stigma
483.Greg Marasciulo
484.Apovslypse
485.Player Uno
486.Jimmy DeMarco
487.Wade Chism
488.Tim Donst
489.Leono
490.Dre Blitz
491.Igotta Brewski
492.Larry Zbyszko
493.Super Calo
494.Marshall Gambino
495.Hydra
496.Mickey Gambino
497.Worker Ant
498.The Guy with Red Hair
499.Kliff Hanger
500.Kurt Adonis
Shit list if you ask me.

[Rob]

Unlike the usual great PWI 500 lists?

[Destor]

Fair play.

[FourFifty]

I stopped reading at the first person who was up way to high.... so there's 499 names I didn't read.

[MCEazy]

carlito at 63? :wtf:

[Anybody Thrilla]

Where the fuck is Santino Marella?

[Lock Jaw]

Somewhere below The Great Khali

[thedamndest]

91.

[Destor]

91

[MCEazy]

Somewhere below The Great Khali

the simple fact that Khali even made the top 500 makes this a shit list FO SHO

[Ben Rodrigues]

How is Shawn Michaels not number one?

[Destor]

There are easily 50 guys better than HBM in 2008 Ben :roll:

[Rob]

230 plus wrestlers better than Teddy Hart? 300 odd better than Taka Michinoku?

Speaks for itself really.

[Xerzes]

How is Larry Zbyszko on the list? Has he had a match in the last decade?

[Dorkchop]

How is Kurt Angle number 2? I still love the guy, but there are lots of guys who out performed Angle this year. I couldn't find Matt Hardy, but he's been consistently great.

[Juan]

RKO #1 :love:

[#1-norm-fan]

The guy with red hair @ 498? Should be much higher...

[thedamndest]

BOTH of the Highlanders beat Teddy Hart.

[KYR]

There are so many things wrong with this list and so many inconsistencies, I don't know where to begin, although FoFiddy makes a good point...WTF?? :wtf:

[#1-norm-fan]

I never really understood what PWI base their top 500 on. If it's based on wrestling ability/quality of matches, no one can possibly be nearly as off as they are on a yearly basis. Popularity as well.

I always assumed it was treated as if wrestling were unscripted, like a kayfabe top 500 in which case it makes much more sense.

You've got more WWE/TNA guys near the top because they are "in the big leagues" therefore likely "better" and such...

[El Fangel]

the simple fact that Khali even made the top 500 makes this a shit list FO SHO

[RGWhat316]

I love that Orton is number 1. But in reality, this is only a kayfabe 500. Khali should'nt even be on this list, but because of stuff like tv time and wins, thats how they rank them. Just like with Orton, even though some of his wins were just barely escaping wins, they count them cus of him retaining in those matches.

[Juan]

I love that Orton is number 1. But in reality, this is only a kayfabe 500. Khali should'nt even be on this list, but because of stuff like tv time and wins, thats how they rank them. Just like with Orton, even though some of his wins were just barely escaping wins, they count them cus of him retaining in those matches.

Are you insinuating that Orton is NOT #1? :mad:

[Skippord]

the guy at #249 should be #1

[Juan]

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n246/backstagepowers/laparka.gif

[Destor]

Nah 377 should be no.1

[Shadow]

...Jeff at 18 and Matt at 41?

I love this list!

[U-Warrior]

230 plus wrestlers better than Teddy Hart? 300 odd better than Taka Michinoku?

Speaks for itself really.

I never really understood what PWI base their top 500 on. If it's based on wrestling ability/quality of matches, no one can possibly be nearly as off as they are on a yearly basis. Popularity as well.

I always assumed it was treated as if wrestling were unscripted, like a kayfabe top 500 in which case it makes much more sense.

You've got more WWE/TNA guys near the top because they are "in the big leagues" therefore likely "better" and such...


Rankings really have nothing to do with in-ring skill. It's based on the wrestler's accomplishments. In that regard, kayfabe is involved. You think it's coincidence that the decline of quality in the annual PWI 500, mirrors the decline in quality of top superstars?

The PWI 500 used to be pretty great, from it's first publication, all the way to the attitude era. Mainly because they didn't immediately push guys who are still pretty green to the top, just because they get a few big pops. (Yeah, I realize there were a couple in the past, but not as many as there are now.)

So because the list follows kayfabe, they really have to give high spots to people like Cena, Orton and Batista. Which makes the IWC cringe.

So it's not really their fault the list sucks.

[Lock Jaw]

the guy at #<s>249</s>212 should be #1

Fixed.

[U-Warrior]

Also, it's done by committee. So you probably have lots of different opinions, with lots of compromises in there.

[KYR]

Any Wrestling list without the inclusion of the 'Swog cannot be taken seriously :shifty:

[Tazz Dan]

Yeah seriously. As much as a great man Ric Flair is, he wrestled like 5 matches this year and he's number 19 on the list.

[Destor]

Should be no.1 :o

[MCEazy]

Yeah seriously. As much as a great man Ric Flair is, he wrestled like 5 matches this year and he's number 19 on the list.

doesn't make too much sense eh? :-\

[Rammsteinmad]

I've not even heard of about 430 of them.

[Indifferent Clox]

Nigel is in the top 10 which is nice.

[RGWhat316]

Are you insinuating that Orton is NOT #1? :mad:

Orton definitely deserves number 1. I was just saying some of the bs finishes they gave him like intentionally slapping the ref at NWO against Cena.

And Nigel being in the top 10 is awesome. He is my favorite of all the champions in all the 3 main groups (WWE, TNA, ROH).

[Xero]

After the first ten guys or so it's basically "type random name here".

[Destor]

I'd say after the first 100 they were just throwing names at the wall.

[El Fangel]

Flair at 19 and Cena at 9

NULL AND VOIDED!

[Indifferent Clox]

I'd say after the first 100 they were just throwing darts at the wall.

The wall had the names on it of course.

I'm clarifying for your sake Fangel. :)

[El Fangel]

The wall had the names on it of course.

I'm clarifying for your sake Fangel. :)

Unneeded, but thanks.

[BigDaddyCool]

How the fuck is Rebboj higher up tha Nash. It doesn't make any sence no matter how you cut it. Fuck the world, Nash.

[Loose Cannon]

#1 Randy Orton

seems like a perfect list to me

[BigDaddyCool]

The Correct list should look like this:

1. HBK
2. HHH
3. Nash
4. Boogen
5 - 500. Jobbers

[Rob]

Flair at 19 and Cena at 9

NULL AND VOIDED!

I know. Cena should be about 100 spots ahead of Flair. People knock Cena all the time but his record of top matches speak for itself. He got a better match out of Khali than anyone else in the company for a start. Flair is carried by his opponents. If his last match was against Ken Kennedy, it would be forgotten before the show finished. Michaels carried him.

[weather vane]

Johnny Devine should be number one.

[Kapoutman]

If I was one of the guys in the 450 range, I'd start a gimmick saying I'm (one of) the guy(s) who ranked above "The Living Legend" Larry Zbysko in the PWI 500. Then I'd really call Zbysko to tell him how much I'm better than him.

[Lock Jaw]

Is Zbysco still wrestling?

[Vastardikai]

#1 and #5 should trade spaces, IMO.

#54 being ranked above #55 OR #56 (who is tragically now Face Doink 2.0) is bullshit. Pure. and. Utter. Bullshit.

I've heard NOTHING but good things about #352 and #464

#454 = 3rd rate Jeff Hardy. He is a worthless piece of shit that should get bitch slapped. He should die from a fatal punch to the sternum (which he doesn't have).

[Destor]

The list is on a different page, who are you talking about?

[Vastardikai]

Sorry. Big time Derpty-Durr on my part.

I say replace Orton with Edge on the top spot.

I was pissed at the Miz being ranked above Regal or Finlay (even if Finlay is now pretty much the new Face Doink)

I was singing the praises of Truitt Fields (sp?) and Phil Shatter.

The third rate Jeff Hardy is Kirby Mack. Though that may be an insult... to Jeff Hardy.

[Anybody Thrilla]

The Miz is super sweet, so how about you shut it, Vastardikai?

[Lock Jaw]

The Miz isn't sweeter than Regal, though.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Yes he is, because Regal doesn't do The Dirt Sheet.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Also, if you want to do it in kayfabe terms, The Miz has done more 'in the ring' this year than Regal. I don't count King of the Ring, since it has done absolutely nothing for Regal.

[Mooияakeя™]

I <3 The Undertaker, but hang on, he's been suspended, injured and vanishes here and there so far this year.

So does this list go from 2007 or something?

Or is it that PWI thinks he has one match and he shits on the rest of the wrestling world?


BTW EDGE CLEARLY NEEDS #1

[Xero]

I'd assume it goes from July-July (or somewhere around there), though I'm not really sure.

[Blitz]

Just want to say it's bullshit that I only placed at 124. I should at least be in front of Chuck Palumbo.