Scramble Match Rules Revealed

[Indifferent Clox]

Scramble Match Rules Revealed, Cherry's Future, Hot Candice Pics By Ryan Clark (Webmaster@ProWrestlingSCOOPS.com) on August 20, 2008 at 4:52 PM EST
WWE announced the following rules for the Unforgiven 5-man Scramble match on the WWE Fan Nation site: The match has a 20-minute time limit. The champion and a randomly selected challenger will start the match, with a new challenger entering the match every five minutes [emphasis mine]. If a Superstar scores a pinfall or submission on any other Superstar in the match, he is declared the "temporary" champion for match purposes (and is not officially recognized as champion in the title history). He holds that designation until another Superstar scores a subsequent pinfall or submission on any other Superstar.

[Xero]

So it's the Elimination Chamber minus the Chamber and with a time limit...

Is Russo working for the E on the side?

[Londoner]

They might aswell get recognized as being champ or its pointless.

[Afterlife]

How is it pointless?

[Afterlife]

So it's the Elimination Chamber minus the Chamber and with a time limit...

Is Russo working for the E on the side?

Seems more like a pinfall/submission version of the Rumble.

[Triple Naitch]

Wasn't there something like this in a Wrestlemania from a few years ago with Crash Holly for the Hardcore Championship? I guess this isn't exactly an Adamle Original.

[Indifferent Clox]

It isn't like the rumble(no eliminations), it isn't like an ironman match (only the last fall counts), it isn't like the hardcore thing (way less people, no title changes), It isn't like an ROH scramble match, which is kind of what it is except instead of not being able to be won untill everyone is in the match it won't be necessarily won by a single fall, also there are no tags.


From the 'pedia:
Primarily associated with Ring of Honor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_Honor), a Scramble tag team match has one difference from the normal rules: when a wrestler goes out of the ring either of their own volition or by being forced out, a partner can come in as a replacement without being tagged in. This format is most commonly used in either four corner tags, or with teams of more than 2. The Scramble match can also be done as a six man scramble where anyone can tag in anyone.

[Xero]

In that one they all started from the beginning.

[Dave Youell]

So, there's a few questions:

1. How many refs? In theory 2 decisions could happen at the same time
2. If that does happen, who's the temp champ?
3. I'm pleased that all the changes won't mean that that person is recognized as champ
4. So one guy is only going to get 5 minutes in the match? Weird.
5. Good that the champ starts, adds excitement, as they will probably lose at some point

I hope for a CM Punk win (after losing it at some point in the match)

And a Hardy win on the Smackdown side, although realistically, I don't feel anyone apart from HHH can carry that ball from the guys in the match

[BigDaddyCool]

I feel a little better about it now.

[Londoner]

How is it pointless?

Just takes a bit off the match for me.

[Indifferent Clox]

Oh I'm thinking of the scramble cage match.

[Afterlife]

It isn't like the rumble(no eliminations), it isn't like an ironman match (only the last fall counts), it isn't like the hardcore thing (way less people, no title changes), It's like an ROH scramble match, which is exactly what it is.

1, it is like the Rumble because the other three contenders will be entering on a timer and coming from the stage, and not plexiglass pods.

2, I pointed out there were no eliminations by saying "a pinfall/submission version".

3, it is like an Iron Man, because there are multiple falls/submissions possible thru out the duration of the time limit.

4, it is like the hardcore thingy, because it's a bunch of guys going for the same title in one match.

5, How do you know Punk didn't suggest this? He came from ROH and it's a damn interesting concept. Besides, this is technically a rub for ROH, because now they can say "An ROH Original: Championship Scramble!". Sure, it's nice to have crdit where it's due, but if nothing else, it gives a smaller promotion bragging rights. Unless, of course, someone who never actually watched ROH just...you know...thought of it on their own.

[Afterlife]

Just takes a bit off the match for me.

O.k. But I'm asking why.

[Indifferent Clox]

I'm not saying it's a bad match I look forward to it. Should be amazing.

[Fox]

It should be 30 minutes long. One guy in for only 5 minutes? That's stupid.

[Londoner]

Agreed it should be 30 mins.

[Indifferent Clox]

Yeah it should be 30 minutes and it should be 2 minute intervals.

[Afterlife]

Why is a 5 minute stint stupid? It's added pressure for the match.

[Londoner]

You're just asking why for the sake of it now, Afterlife.

[Xero]

Why would Afterlife do that?

[Indifferent Clox]

I really don't think there should be a stuttered entrance at all. But if they have to do it 2 minutes is much better, gives some guys a chance for some quick action but no one gets to much of an advantage or disadvantage.

[Afterlife]

No, I'm serious. Just saying "that's stupid" is kind of empty. Unless you're talking about Paris Hilton, in which case she is a demonstration in and of herself. But here, an approach of "This is stupid because..." would be most beneficial.

[Londoner]

Work it out for yourself. :)

[Savio]

And a Hardy win on the Smackdown side, although realistically, I don't feel anyone apart from HHH can carry that ball from the guys in the match
If HHH wins this I'd like to see him destroy every wrestler that comes in in under 5 minutes.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Sounds pretty good...better than all 5 guys just beating the shit out of each other for 20 minutes IMO.

Here's the one from WM:

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those title wins weren't officially counted in the title history either. Hopefully they at least make an announcement whenever a pin is made "Here is the new WWE Champion...Brian Kendrick" :shifty:

In all seriousness though, this is a fun match. I miss 2000</font> :(

[BigDaddyCool]

I would prefer a scrambled egg match. The first person to make me scrambled eggs they way I like them wins.

[Afterlife]

Work it out for yourself. :)

If you can't explain what the issue is, then you're saying it to be difficult and I must assume you are lying. So :p

[El Fangel]

Reminds me of the Time Limit Title match in Smackdown 2

[McLegend]

WWE is TNA-ing this match.

Twice on the same PPV is overkill.

[Dorkchop]

I'd prefer to have everyone start the match and for it to be 30 minutes. The end.

[thedamndest]

I could deal with that way if there were tags involved, like the 6-pack challenge. It would get cluster-fucky otherwise, especially with two on the card.

[XL]

WWE is TNA-ing this match.

Twice on the same PPV is overkill.
They did the same thing with the Elimination Chamber at No Way Out this year. For me it makes SmackDown! look stupid.

Raw announces a "blockbuster" match and 4 days later SD go "We're just gonna copy Raw and do the same match with different guys."

[Y2Ant]

I still kinda like the match but it's just annoying how like normally you have a fatal fourway or whatever, any kind of main event title match that lasts 20 mins or more, yet you only get one pinfall. Now suddenly they introduce this because there's guaranteed to be more than one pin in it, just because.

It's like Survivor Series matches, where you get falls quicker than usual just for the sake of it being a Survivor Series match, I know it's wrestling and that it can't always be realistic but it just annoys me a little.

Saying that i'll probably just forget about it and enjoy the match like usual.

[Mr. Nerfect]

So, there's a few questions:

1. How many refs? In theory 2 decisions could happen at the same time
2. If that does happen, who's the temp champ?
3. I'm pleased that all the changes won't mean that that person is recognized as champ
4. So one guy is only going to get 5 minutes in the match? Weird.
5. Good that the champ starts, adds excitement, as they will probably lose at some point

I hope for a CM Punk win (after losing it at some point in the match)

And a Hardy win on the Smackdown side, although realistically, I don't feel anyone apart from HHH can carry that ball from the guys in the match

1. I can't see any reason for more than one ref. Theoretically, the same thing could happen in any Fatal 4 Way Match.
2. I guess the belt would either be declared vacant; we'd get co-champions; the match would be declared a draw between the two challengers, but seeing as no decision was reached, the title would remain where it was; the two who got the falls go into sudden death. They're all the possibilities I can think of.
3. I sort of am, too, as those changes would cheapen the championship, but I admit it would be pretty cool to get the wins of Kane and Chris Jericho.
4. That is really weird, but I can see it working. Especially for a character like The Brian Kendrick or JBL.
5. The champion starting pretty much gets rid of champion's advantage, but it's a dramatic concept. Theoretically, the champion should be in the best position to start first, as they are the highest ranked on their brand.

I'm hoping CM Punk retains his title, and that The Brian Kendrick wins the WWE Title on SmackDown! (which has no chance of happening).