Apparently some TNA contracts are coming up...

[Mr. Nerfect]

Christian Cage, Kevin Nash, Amazing Kong and Team 3D all have their TNA contracts coming up, and nothing has really been set in stone for them. I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts of this, and which of those TNA folk you'd like to see take a walk from the company. Would you like to see them return to the WWE? What do you think will happen?

Just some fun discussion, because I am bored.

[CSL]

I think a heel Christian would be perfect in WWE right now. Christian/CM Punk over the title for a few months? Yes sir, thank you sir

[CSL]

Also, Nash as the new Smackdown GM after Taker sends Vicki to 'hell'/under the ring to wait for everybody to leave? Fine by me

[CSL]

Awesome Kong squashing every female 'talent' on Smackdown and holding the Divas belt for 3 years? Why not?

[CSL]

Dudleyz can stay at home though

[Xero]

Awesome Kong to WWE, debuts with savage gimmick, Umaga falls in love.

[Kane Knight]

Awesome Kong to WWE, debuts with savage gimmick, Umaga falls in love.

They then come up with some of the creepiest tag team manuevers ever.

[FourFifty]

They then come up with some of the creepiest tag team manuevers ever.

As long as we see them as a legit tag team, I'm good with that idea. Hell, throw the tag team titles on them a let them go in the ring with Beth Phoenix and Santino.

[Mercury Bullet]

I would like to see Christian back in WWE on Raw and Nash come back in an angle where he is Adamle's Bodyguard/Assistant GM.

[Mercury Bullet]

Also, in a time where WWE is starting to use smaller wrestlers in more prominent roles (like Punk and Kendrick) I wish they'd pick up Alex Shelley and Chris Sabin and maybe they could go be used right. How weird is that, leaving TNA to go be used properly in WWE?

[screech]

Heel Christian would be the goods on either SD! or Raw. An Edge and Christian reunion or feud would be sweet. He's really the main reason I watch TNA because he usually gets treated well (push-wise), but I wouldn't complain if he came back to Double Double E. As long as I still get to watch him (damn you, Tomko for bolting to Japan) I'll be a happy man.

Nash as either a bodyguard/assistant as Mercury Bullet said or as the GM over on SD! as CSL said would be cool. Nash seems likely to leave since he's been quite upset with TNA creative lately. He's another main reason I watch TNA, but again I wouldn't mind a return. I'd like to see a match or two out of him once in a while (maybe a win here and there) but the aforementioned ideas are great for him.

I love the Kong/Umanga idea, Xero. It would make for some great television. Do you think if Kong goes, Saeed would follow? It would be awesome to watch her lead them to tag team glory. Or to watch her lead Kong to dominance on SD! (or Raw). Or to watch her as Cheerleader Melissa. *in John Morrison voice* What ever happened to that girl?

Team 3D can stay where they are as far as I'm concerned. It sucks for D-Von that everyone hates Bubba (for being such a dick), but I really can't see either of them succeeding as singles wrestlers. Besides, they make TNA slightly entertaining.

[Anybody Thrilla]

If they gave D-Von a reverend gimmick, I think it could work.

[Innovator]

If HBK needs time off, it'd be great for Christian to fill in and take it to Jericho until Shawn can come back

[screech]

How long did that even last? I remember seeing Rev. D-Von with Dancin' Dave when he debuted. Next thing I knew, Team 3D was TNA-ing it up and Dave wandered into Evolution.

[Anybody Thrilla]

It lasted much too long. Let's just leave it at that, my fair screech.

[Anybody Thrilla]

If HBK needs time off, it'd be great for Christian to fill in and take it to Jericho until Shawn can come back

Christian had storyline allegiances to Jericho and none to Michaels. Wouldn't make much sense. Just because his name IS Christian doesn't mean that he is A Christian, which I guess could link him to HBK, but....you know what, nevermind.

[Innovator]

Allegiances, like stealing Trish from him

[McLegend]

If they gave D-Von a reverend gimmick, I think it could work.

Want to make a bet that it couldn't.

Personally I would like my chances.

[ClockShot]

Anything involving Christian would be great. Hooking him back up with Edge would be even better.

I'm also down with "Big Daddy Cool" Kevin Nash to come back. He has said he wouldn't mind coming back to bodyguard for HBK. Wouldn't be a bad idea if the writers are gonna stretch out Jericho/Michaels till it breaks. When that's all over, have him mentor some up and coming like he's doing now.

Xero might be on to something with Awesome Kong and Umaga. But somebody gotta manage them to make sure they're in check.

Team Dudleys are hit or miss. I could care less.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Allegiances, like stealing Trish from him

Bros before hoes, I'm sure they're over that by now. That was five years ago.

[addy2hotty]

If Christian was to come out to Just Close Your Eyes to challenge Punk, and eventually beat him, I would forgive them for all the years of pain they have put me through.

[Kane Knight]

If Christian was to come out to Just Close Your Eyes to challenge Punk, and eventually beat him, I would forgive them for all the years of pain they have put me through.

Captain Charisma versus Captain Coke.

[Y2Ant]

Christian is the only TNA guy I want them to bring back.

[ron the dial]

Captain Charisma versus Captain Coke.
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rof l::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Kane Knight]

Your sarcasm is duly noted, WeX.

[ron the dial]

oh no really your repetitious comedy never gets old

[Kane Knight]

Thanks. Neither do your continued "witty" criticisms.

[ron the dial]

i wasn't aware they were meant to be witty. you got the sarcasm part, though. good work.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Christian in the WWE would be the goods, I think we can all agree on that. I'm just trying to work out what I'd mark out harder for: Edge returns and is going up against La Familia, and then says he brought some family of his own. Christian's titantron and theme then hit, and out comes Captain Charisma with a steel chair. Fuck, now that he's not signed on to TNA, bring in Tyson Tomko again as a third member of their group. An uneasy alliance between them and The Undertaker to destroy La Familia at Survivor Series could be really entertaining.

Another possibility is that Vickie Guerrero tells Chavo she has been seeing someone else. Chavo wants to find out who, and then one day Christian just walks into the picture, and calls Vickie a pet name. From one brother to another. You could have Christian in the same position Edge was a few weeks ago with this, or you could eventually have Christian turn on Vickie and La Familia, asking if they really thought he would choose them over his brother.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Dare I say it, I'd like to see The Dudley Boyz brought in for a few months. They are an established tag team that people actually care about. If they had a little bit of a feud with a heel team, they could really put them over. I wouldn't sign them to really long contracts, though.

Amazing Kong would be very cool on RAW. I'd mark out if she showed up, squashed some diva like Kelly Kelly, and then said that the women on RAW weren't enough of a challenge, so she wanted to face the men. She specifically sets her sight on Santino Marella, and the Intercontinental Championship. This doesn't sit well with Beth Phoenix, and you get a program between Kong and Glamarella going.

Kevin Nash is a maybe for me. I'd like to see him get one more crack in the WWE, just because he is so entertaining on the mic. I'm hoping that Triple H drops the WWE Championship soon (I know, I know) possibly due to his programs with guys like Kenny Dykstra and The Great Khali growing out of control. They beat-down Triple H week-in and week-out, and challenge him to a tag team match at the next PPV. They say that if no one wants to help Triple H (which they don't think anyone will), he will have to face them in a Handicap Match. Cue Kevin Nash at the PPV, who manages to go over Kenny Dykstra with the Jackknife Powerbomb.

Then just put him over Jimmy Wang Yang on SmackDown!, and let him and Triple H have a buddy-buddy relationship on the blue brand.

[Destor]

lol WeX

[screech]

Noid, I fucking love reading your posts.

I love the idea for Christian, mostly the first one because it would involve Tomko returning to my television and that is always a good thing. A Survivor Series matchup would kick some ass. I'm thinking who would be a good candidate to join them against La Familia, but I can't put my finger on one. I'd like to see Kane because of his history with the group and Kane and Taker is always awesome. Another possible one could be Bourne because, well why the hell not? He's a name that just popped into my head so I went with it.

I like the second one because, as I said before, an Edge and Christian reunion would be pretty damn awesome. Going that route, I could see another tag title run (or at least a match for the belts, against Hawkins and Ryder) for them. That turn could also possibly tear apart La Familia (and end Vickie's GM run) with Chavo saying Vickie can't make good decisions and lets personal problems affect her job performance. Chavo and Bam leave her by herself (Hawkins and Ryder would have left sometime after Edge) and Undertaker sends her "to hell" since that's popular these days, putting her off TV for a while (or for good).

And, as was alluded to by myself and others, enter Kevin Nash as GM.

[screech]

I actually like the Dudleyz over in TNA, so my thought is to keep them there. Your idea isn't a bad one, though. People would actually give a shit about them if they jumped. They obviously wouldn't stay long, but a program involving Orton (since there's real heat between him and Bubba) would be interesting. Orton/Bats (as heels) taking on the Dudleyz would be sweet. They have histories (Orton/Bubba, D-Von/Bats) so it would make the match interesting and somewhat personal.

I like the Kong idea. I'd love to see her dominate women and men alike. But I gotta lean toward the Umanga angle Xero suggested because that would be absolute gold.

A Nash/Trips alliance would be cool, as long as Nash turns (when it comes to an end). They already did a Nash coming back to help Trips angle (in 2003), but Trips turned on him which lead to a six-man at Backlash and a title match between the two at Judgment Day. If they redid it, which they totally would given the chance, I'd want the turn to go the other way. Trips always seems to turn on his partner so it'd be nice to see things go differently.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Evan Bourne would make a good partner for Team Edge if he were to go against La Familia, mainly because Bourne has got problems with Chavo Guerrero, and I think the WWE wants him to be moved up the card a little. More so than say, your Gavin Spearses, Scotty Goldmans and Ryan Braddocks, anyway.

[screech]

And because seeing Edge, Christian, Tomko, Undertaker, and Bourne take on La Familia would be fucking sweet.

[KYR]

As much as I would like to see Christian back in the WWE (as previous posters have noted, there would be no shortage of story-lines to use him in) and as much as I think the Dudleys COULD invigorate (or by default force the WWE to invigorate) the Tag Title scene, I really don't think it would be good for wrestling.

As much as we pan the creative writing over at TNA (and yes I'm guilty of this too) the WWE (like any other marketable product) needs good competition - this is what drives you to make YOUR product better.

TNA needs to be a much stronger force in the business. Wrestlers coming off contract and jumping ship or returning to the WWE ultimately is not a good thing.

TNA needs to get it's act together and become a true thorn in WWE's side.

[screech]

As much as I would like to see Christian back in the WWE (as previous posters have noted, there would be no shortage of story-lines to use him in) and as much as I think the Dudleys COULD invigorate (or by default force the WWE to invigorate) the Tag Title scene, I really don't think it would be good for wrestling.

As much as we pan the creative writing over at TNA (and yes I'm guilty of this too) the WWE (like any other marketable product) needs good competition - this is what drives you to make YOUR product better.

TNA needs to be a much stronger force in the business. Wrestlers coming off contract and jumping ship or returning to the WWE ultimately is not a good thing.

TNA needs to get it's act together and become a true thorn in WWE's side.

I agree. I'm probably one of the few people who wants TNA to do well. They have such a good roster and so much potential. They could be right up there with Double Double E if they got their shit together. For WWE, this is good short term, but probably not long term (these guys have to retire sometime). For TNA, it sucks short term and long term. Short term, they're losing guys that have helped bring the company profits. Long term, they're losing talent because of the way they do business and that can only end badly for them.

[KYR]

I think you under-estimate a lot of posters.

I believe a lot of people who post here WANT TNA to succeed.

But, unfortunately, TNA is only half-way to success. They simply SUCK.

[screech]

Maybe you're right about people wanting TNA to succeed, but I don't think it shows very much. They aren't there yet, but the product has been better lately. Aside from lame promos from the "Beautiful People" (hardly) and others, and overkill with the superhero segments, TNA has been decent.

[AKin3D]

TNA succeed would be great, but I realised when they said they were bring Sting in, that TNA really dosen't have hope in the long run unless something changes. Every time TNA gets something good going they fuck up. I mean they can pay Stings stupid ass all the money under the sun, but they can't afford to tour or even come the the West Coast?!

Anyway Christian Cage, I love to have him back. I believe they would be able to make a storyline for him. Hell even though I doubt you guys would want to see it, Christian vs Jeff number 1 contender can't be over looked.

Kevin Nash, please go away. I loved yeah back in the day, but just let go.

Amazing Kong Japan needs you back. It's a good time to g back. The Womaen are give the men a run for their money in all companies.

Team 3D......They'll go back when they're ready. I don't know what they'll do in ring, but out of ring stuff looks great. Though I don't think Brother Ray's "wife" is gonna let him leave his frount desk job at the spa.

[Mr. Nerfect]

And because seeing Edge, Christian, Tomko, Undertaker, and Bourne take on La Familia would be fucking sweet.

To even the score, have Gregory Helms join La Familia (possibly as the new guy boning Vickie Guerrero). Helms and Chavo had that tag team going before Helms was injured, and while they were thrown together pretty wildly, I really like the chemistry there, and was bizarrely fascinated by the story between them.

Helms was the longest reigning Cruiserweight Champion of all-time, and then Chavo Guerrero won the title from Helms (albeit indirectly). Instead of Helms being all pissed off and whatnot, though, it seemed he either really respected Chavo for being the next CW Champ, or he was keeping his enemies close. It was a story that I don't think was fleshed out enough, and although the dynamic would almost definitely need to switch to a respect thing ("We were the greatest Cruiserweight Champions of all-time!"), it's something I'd like to see continued.

[Mr. Nerfect]

As much as I would like to see Christian back in the WWE (as previous posters have noted, there would be no shortage of story-lines to use him in) and as much as I think the Dudleys COULD invigorate (or by default force the WWE to invigorate) the Tag Title scene, I really don't think it would be good for wrestling.

As much as we pan the creative writing over at TNA (and yes I'm guilty of this too) the WWE (like any other marketable product) needs good competition - this is what drives you to make YOUR product better.

TNA needs to be a much stronger force in the business. Wrestlers coming off contract and jumping ship or returning to the WWE ultimately is not a good thing.

TNA needs to get it's act together and become a true thorn in WWE's side.

While I do agree with you, and having those five names would definitely be better for TNA's talent pool, I think that there is a flip-side to this argument.

Christian Cage has consistently been one of, if not the best thing TNA has had going for them. He was the first major star to actually choose TNA over the WWE. Kevin Nash has been consistently entertaining, and despite never being a fan of him in the ring, I think he has done far more good than bad for TNA, and he honestly hasn't looked too terrible in the squared...*cough*...hexagonal circle.

Team 3D, again guys I'm not big fans of, get more shit than they deserve. Sure, Bubba is crap in the ring, but he's fairly good on the mic. I remember reading an article about TNA's MVP recently, and when the chips were down on the table, Team 3D have been in a surprisingly lot of great matches in recent TNA history. They are great heel lackies for whoever they hang around with, and are recognisable. Then you have Awesome Kong, who was absolutely crucial in helping TNA's Knockout Division look so good from the start.

All are really important to TNA, but if they left, TNA wouldn't immediately die. They'd have a vacuum, and somehow they would need to fill that vacuum. If that convinced TNA to better use their homegrown talent (yes, laugh it up), and keep the talent that chose them over the WWE over them happier (and that doesn't mean constantly putting them over, it just means letting them be a part of a company not overshadowed by silly politics), then it could do them some good.

[screech]

To even the score, have Gregory Helms join La Familia (possibly as the new guy boning Vickie Guerrero). Helms and Chavo had that tag team going before Helms was injured, and while they were thrown together pretty wildly, I really like the chemistry there, and was bizarrely fascinated by the story between them.

Helms was the longest reigning Cruiserweight Champion of all-time, and then Chavo Guerrero won the title from Helms (albeit indirectly). Instead of Helms being all pissed off and whatnot, though, it seemed he either really respected Chavo for being the next CW Champ, or he was keeping his enemies close. It was a story that I don't think was fleshed out enough, and although the dynamic would almost definitely need to switch to a respect thing ("We were the greatest Cruiserweight Champions of all-time!"), it's something I'd like to see continued.

I've always been a fan of Helms, especially as The Hurricane, so I'm definitely down with that idea. Plus, he makes a great heel. When he plays off the "I'm the longest reigning champion in SD! history" thing, he gets some good heat. He's one of the few guys (I think) who can pull off being a face and a heel (much like Christian).

I didn't see much of that pairing before Helms went down, but I saw a match and I really liked how the two worked together, even though I usually can't stand watching Chavo. I'd like to see them paired up again since I missed it the first time and because I liked what little of it I saw.

Hell, I just want to see Gregory Helms in the ring again.

[Indifferent Clox]

I'd love to see Nash come in as HBK's Manager or moral support or something, because of Lance Cade or whatever, and then turn on HBK.

Christian and Edge should feud for the title :drool:


Awesome Kong v. all the divas.

Dudleyz could do something entertaining I'm sure

[screech]

All are really important to TNA, but if they left, TNA wouldn't immediately die. They'd have a vacuum, and somehow they would need to fill that vacuum. If that convinced TNA to better use their homegrown talent (yes, laugh it up), and keep the talent that chose them over the WWE over them happier (and that doesn't mean constantly putting them over, it just means letting them be a part of a company not overshadowed by silly politics), then it could do them some good.

You raise a good point here, but it shouldn't take five stars leaving to convince them to better use their own talent. Their lackluster ratings and not-so-great buy rates should be enough of a kick in the ass. I know, I know they're making money but that doesn't mean they're doing everything they could be to produce good television and a good product.

Making money was step one. Now they have to move forward and improve; with or without these five talents.

[Mooияakeя™]

I pray Christian comes to WWE.

[Mr. Nerfect]

You raise a good point here, but it shouldn't take five stars leaving to convince them to better use their own talent. Their lackluster ratings and not-so-great buy rates should be enough of a kick in the ass. I know, I know they're making money but that doesn't mean they're doing everything they could be to produce good television and a good product.

Making money was step one. Now they have to move forward and improve; with or without these five talents.

You're exactly right, but cue Vince Russo talking about how important ratings are, and then talking about magazines when the point of low ratings is brought up.

[screech]

Team 3D is sticking around in TNA, which I think is good for both parties.

I'm hoping for TNA's sake that Awesome Kong stays. They took a huge hit with Gail leaving, and Kong makes the Knockouts' segments entertaining. At least she makes up for the ridiculous segments that involve the "Beautiful People" and their new stylist.

[Mr. Nerfect]

To be honest, I think staying in TNA would be the smartest thing for Awesome Kong to do. The WWE could offer more money, I guess, but she's not their type. Regardless of how awesome Kong is, the WWE would likely lose interest or fuck things up.

Team 3D staying in TNA is fair enough. I guess they have their smoothie store to think of, and they do get treated like major players in TNA. But to be honest, I think going back to the WWE would have been good for them. They'd get to rack up a few more Tag Team Championships on a bigger stage.

[screech]

I totally agree about Kong. Aside from an awesome Umanga/Kong love story, WWE wouldn't have anything good for her. They'd ruin her for sure.

While it's true that Team 3D would get to rack up more [meaningful] championships, I think TNA is where they should be right now. People [fans] would certainly accept them, but WWE isn't the same company it was when the Dudleyz were there years ago. They'd get over at first, but then they'd have to change their image to adapt to the "new" style of programming and I can't see them doing that.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Apparently internal "sources" (not sure how reliable these are) suggest there is a 50-50 chance regarding what Christian Cage and Kevin Nash do. Personally, I hope it is to the WWE with both of them. At least for a little while with Nash. For entertainment purposes.

[screech]

Latest updates: Beautiful People and Salinas' contracts set to expire soon.

I can't stand the Beautiful People (sorry, Destor) but they're a pretty big part of the Knockouts division so it's best for all involved if they stay where they are. People watch because they're on TV, so TNA should do all they can to keep them there.

Salinas is fucking amazing and should stay in TNA as well. She's a big part of LAX and again, people watch because of her (I know I do). She most likely wouldn't go back to WWE because of Dave, so I just hope she renews her contract so she continues to make weekly appearances on my TV.

Also, Nash is apparently headed to WWE. I'm fine either way as long as he doesn't get fucked over by either side (i.e. misused in the E or jobbed out before he leaves TNA).

[Mr. Nerfect]

That's interesting about The Beautiful People. They really are pretty crucial to TNA's Knockout scene at the moment, but I can't see them going anywhere. Actually, I can't see Angelina Love going anywhere. She was cut from the WWE before, and her gimmick just wouldn't fit the way the WWE treat their women, in my opinion.

Velvet Sky being snatched up, especially with Gregory Helms spreading her praises around, is probably much more likely. Especially if she just used TNA to advertise her skills a bit, to show Vince what she can do, so she can get some leverage in dealing with the WWE. She's a very hot girl, and she's not completely awful in the ring. Talia Madison in the WWE could be quite cool, and she's not nearly as much a focus of The Beautiful People as Angelina is.

If I were TNA, I'd definitely job Nash out before he left for the WWE. That's the only reason you keep those old guys around -- to make stars. If they're on their way out, it's time to get some mileage out of them. Joe should definitely bitch out Nash before he leaves, at the very least.

Salinas is very unlikely to return to the WWE, so I can see her signing with TNA. It gets her a paycheck, and puts her body on TV, which are two things I'm sure Salinas loves. She's a good part of TNA right now, and if she continues to train in the ring, she could be a distinct (and reliable) force in their Knockouts Division.

I'm wondering if TNA might put the TNA World Heavyweight Championship on Christian Cage in exchange for him signing a new deal with TNA? His heat with the WWE is apparently water under the bridge, and he's more likely to get better treatment there now, but I could see him agreeing to stay around and continue to help out TNA. I mean, No Surrender is in his hometown.

[screech]

If Love were to leave, would you see it as a good idea to bring in another "beautiful person" to keep the group alive? Again, I can't stand them but they bring in ratings so maybe it wouldn't be a bad way to go.

As much as I hate to say it, I agree with you about Nash. It also seems like they are going that route (Joe bitching out Nash) now anyway.

Salinas could be very good, and it would be great for them if she becomes a big time player (or at least starts wrestling). Salinas as Knockouts Champion would be amazing. AMAZING.

I'm wondering if TNA might put the TNA World Heavyweight Championship on Christian Cage in exchange for him signing a new deal with TNA?

This would be my mark out moment of the year. I would love to see it because I'm sick of seeing that fat piece of shit with the belt. And it would free him up for this New Blood/Millionaires Club angle, or whatever it's called, that's supposed to be happening soon.