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Gertner
09-10-2008, 12:58 AM
What's his background? He debuted on ECW this week and I thought he looked really good. Has a decent finisher.

TerranRich
09-10-2008, 01:29 AM
DAMMIT... all these new guys means more themes to find and add.

Never mind... apparently he just used one of Jamie Noble's old themes.

Juan
09-10-2008, 01:33 AM
Swagger's wont be hard to get, TR. He used Jamie Nobles old trailer trash theme.

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Gertner
09-10-2008, 01:33 AM
WWE is getting fucking lazy

TerranRich
09-10-2008, 01:36 AM
Yeah they are. I bet they heard this in their library and thought, "Wow, this is a great generic rock song! It's perfect for a theme for a new up-and-comer!"

Mr. Nerfect
09-10-2008, 01:39 AM
I actually like that theme of Noble's. Wish he still used it, to be honest.

Basically, Jack Swagger is Jake Hager from the developmental system. I think it's pretty silly they gave him a new name, because all of Hager's accomplishments are probably under his real name. Why create a pseudonym if you are going to be riding them?

He's done very well in DSW, OVW and FCW, and is apparently one of the more impressive guys in developmental. He comes from the University of Oklahoma and played football as well as setting the record for most pins in an All-American season of amateur wrestling with 30, or something.

Wish they had just called him Jake Hager.

Gertner
09-10-2008, 01:41 AM
Jack Swagger to WWE music production:"Hey guys , I'm debuting this week and I need some music

WWE Music Production:" Fuck, it's Friday and According to Jim is gonna be on in 5 minutes so here use this. Don't worry, wrestling fans have the attention span of a gnat."

Afterlife
09-10-2008, 01:42 AM
Juan: I need a pic.

Juan
09-10-2008, 01:42 AM
Also, apparently he's the FCW Heavyweight Champ is on an 62-0 win streak and he was a two-sport athlete at the University of Oklahoma, playing as a defensive tackle in football as well as a heavyweight amateur wrestler.

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q249/thedoglounge/fcw%20wrestling%205-6-2008/IMG_5373.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q249/thedoglounge/fcw%20wrestling%205-6-2008/IMG_5388.jpg

TerranRich
09-10-2008, 01:45 AM
Everybody, meet Renamed-For-No-Reason Developmental Talent #53. :wave:

Mr. Nerfect
09-10-2008, 01:48 AM
This re-naming guys just to own their trademarks is such a TNA move. It makes sense with some guys, but Jake Hager is a guy who really would have gotten real benefit from keeping his real name. I will say this, however: "The All-American American" is a damn good nickname.

I wish the WWE would re-use more themes, to be honest. I'd have marked out if Jack Swagger had used Kurt Angle's old music.

Afterlife
09-10-2008, 02:17 AM
Good lord. How about a pic without an acid-distorted face?

Juan
09-10-2008, 02:27 AM
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/JWWE/203JakeHager.jpg

Edit: Sorry I used my phone to post it the first time.

Afterlife
09-10-2008, 02:31 AM
Smaller, please?

Juan
09-10-2008, 02:39 AM
Fixed

Juan
09-10-2008, 02:41 AM
Kinda looks like a beefed up Chris Nowinski.

Afterlife
09-10-2008, 03:45 AM
He looks like Dobber with mental problems.

Mr. Nerfect
09-10-2008, 11:39 AM
I've also decided that Jack Swagger is my pick to challenge Santino and his Honk-a-Meter heading into WrestleMania XXV with the IC Title on the line. Swagger takes the belt in the first IC Title match at a Mania in seven years.

Was he playing a face or a heel?

Hanso Amore
09-10-2008, 12:17 PM
He played heel.

I think they might kind of play up the All American thing like they did with Angle as an Olympian when he started.

Hanso Amore
09-10-2008, 12:19 PM
The guy is big, has a great look, could be decent.

he needs new attire though. he should singlet it up, play off his ametuerness.

TerranRich
09-10-2008, 03:45 PM
This re-naming guys just to own their trademarks is such a TNA move.

Uhhhh what? It's more of a "WWE owns all their trademarks so we HAVE to rename most of our WWE defectors" move. Not much of a choice on TNA's part.

DarKCentaur
09-10-2008, 05:14 PM
Ok, this guy is my new favorite wrestler. I dunno why, but he had me entertained from the second he was announced. There's something about him that just screams "I'm gonna be a big star someday"

TerranRich
09-10-2008, 08:51 PM
All I could find on YouTube for Jack Swagger was some musician. Wonder if WWE.com has any clips of him.

DarKCentaur
09-10-2008, 09:08 PM
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/ecwquickcut/2008/september8-14/8056862?zone=ecw_videos

At about 1:45.

And I'm too lazy to embed.

Juan
09-10-2008, 09:13 PM
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Xero
09-10-2008, 09:15 PM
Kinda looks like a beefed up Chris Nowinski.

That was driving me nuts. I knew he looked like someone...

TerranRich
09-10-2008, 09:28 PM
Man... if he worked out and got rid of some of that extra padding, he'd be an amazing talent complete with the look as well.

And my first impression is JBL + Chris Nowinski

Afterlife
09-10-2008, 10:12 PM
Really? I'm the only guy who went to tv's "Coach"?

Lock Jaw
09-10-2008, 10:19 PM
For a guy with a great name like Jack Swagger, he sure has some generic ring attire. I would have expected more.... swagger...ness. More swaggerness. Yeah.

Hanso Amore
09-10-2008, 11:19 PM
I guess that was what he has been wearing since he was just Hagar, so maybe he has some new stuff being made I hope.

With his weird hips, he needs to go a Singlet like Angle.

FourFifty
09-11-2008, 03:03 AM
WWE is getting fucking lazy
Well would you pay someone to make music for a guy who is not Braden Walker that's only going to be around for two weeks for some music?

WWE using old themes for newer guys is a good idea on their part. Why waste the time and the money on something you don't know?

Juan
09-11-2008, 03:49 AM
Makes sense, 450.

Xero
09-11-2008, 03:51 AM
Well would you pay someone to make music for a guy who is not Braden Walker that's only going to be around for two weeks for some music?

WWE using old themes for newer guys is a good idea on their part. Why waste the time and the money on something you don't know?

Well they WOULD have money to throw around if it weren't for a certain rick roller who shall remain nameless. :mad:

:shifty:

Mr. Nerfect
09-11-2008, 05:01 AM
Uhhhh what? It's more of a "WWE owns all their trademarks so we HAVE to rename most of our WWE defectors" move. Not much of a choice on TNA's part.

Not in every case. For example, Shawn Daivari could have used his real name. Instead he is now "Sheik Abdul Bashir."

Besides, it's a moot point, I was just merely making fun of the WWE and TNA by comparing them to each other.

Mr. Nerfect
09-11-2008, 05:12 AM
He looked better than Josh Daniels, that's for sure.

I want this guy to go on a Goldberg-like winning streak, only with more an egotistical twist. Writing his current win-loss record on his tights, or bringing out women with score-cards.

TerranRich
09-11-2008, 10:01 AM
Makes sense, 450.

No, it doesn't make sense. Not when you realize that WWE has at their disposal a library of tens of THOUSANDS of songs to choose from, in all the production libraries they have access to. And they choose one that's been used by two separate entities (Noble and U.S. Express one time).

You DO realize that WWE (Jim Johnston) composes about 20% of the wrestling themes, right?

#1-norm-fan
09-11-2008, 07:50 PM
Really? I'm the only guy who went to tv's "Coach"?

I did think it was hilarious how you mentioned Dobber and just assumed everyone would get the reference for some reason. :lol:

Dark-Slicer Diago
09-11-2008, 08:00 PM
I remember when Noble came out to that, I started thinking that it sounded alot like Trigun's theme

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The Show Off
09-11-2008, 10:54 PM
I thought it was going to be Jack Swagert from the Apollo 13 mission.

Afterlife
09-12-2008, 09:42 AM
Did you really?

TerranRich
09-12-2008, 10:27 AM
I thought it was gonna be Jack Sparrow from the Pirates of the Caribbean!