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KingofOldSchool
10-11-2008, 11:12 AM
Dave Meltzer is reporting that former WWE and TNA wrestler Scott Hall has been arrested. Apparently he got upset during the comedy roast of The Iron Sheik. Jimmy Graham, a comedian who has wrestled, and made a remark to Bill Apter, "Bill Apter, you're deaded than Owen Hart." Hall, who had been drinking, was furious about the disrespectful joke and threw punches at Graham until he was contained by security. More information will hopefully come out soon.
Hall, who had been drinking,
What, are you F'N kidding me? 'Straight Edge Scott' gets piss drunk and arrested? Noooooo.
Rollermacka
10-11-2008, 12:00 PM
Dave Meltzer is reporting that former WWE and TNA wrestler Scott Hall has been arrested.
Oh you are talkin about Hall. I was way off and thoought you were gonna say Jimm Duggan. Then again that's "Hey Yo," not "HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!"
thedamndest
10-11-2008, 12:04 PM
Maybe he was furious that the punchline just wasn't that good.
Sepholio
10-11-2008, 12:37 PM
Yea, can't really blame him at all. That line was extremely disrespectful and I have to give props to Scott for standing up to that bullshit, whether he was drunk or not.
NeanderCarl
10-11-2008, 01:03 PM
Maybe he was furious that the punchline just wasn't that good.
"Did it offend you as a friend of Owen Hart?"
"No, it offended me as a comedian!"
Channelling a bit of Seinfeld there...
Rollermacka
10-11-2008, 02:15 PM
Dave Meltzer is reporting that former WWE and TNA wrestler Scott Hall has been arrested. Apparently he got upset during the comedy roast of The Iron Sheik. Jimmy Graham, a comedian who has wrestled, and made a remark to Bill Apter, "Bill Apter, you're deaded than Owen Hart." Hall, who had been drinking, was furious about the disrespectful joke and threw punches at Graham until he was contained by security. More information will hopefully come out soon.
Wait a minute, Iron Shiek was in public and didnt cause a scene? WOW now that's news worthy. :shifty:
loopydate
10-11-2008, 05:08 PM
Yea, can't really blame him at all. That line was extremely disrespectful and I have to give props to Scott for standing up to that bullshit, whether he was drunk or not.
You've... never seen a roast, have you?
MCEazy
10-11-2008, 08:34 PM
LOL @ a Kliq member defending the honor of a member of the Hart family.
Destor
10-11-2008, 08:37 PM
I agree with Hall.
Kane Knight
10-11-2008, 08:37 PM
What, are you F'N kidding me? 'Straight Edge Scott' gets piss drunk and arrested? Noooooo.
What if it was light beer?
Kane Knight
10-11-2008, 08:46 PM
You've... never seen a roast, have you?
To be fair, roasts are often harsh, but the idea is to be, you know...
...Funny.
SammyG
10-11-2008, 09:02 PM
I agree with Hall.
AKin3D
10-11-2008, 11:47 PM
I agree with Hall.
Big Fat Mike
10-12-2008, 12:26 AM
On the lighter side. while he was always a big guy, Hall has really appeared to let himself go :(
Bad Company
10-12-2008, 12:50 AM
Anyone know if this was filmed or where I can find a torrent?
Xerzes
10-12-2008, 03:34 AM
I agree with Hall.
lol comedy roast of The Iron Shiek
The MAC
10-12-2008, 06:09 AM
That "Joke" was out of line because owen was not the subject of the roast,Sheik was.Good thing Bret wasnt there..he would have punched the guy out and the wrote about it.
Blue Demon
10-12-2008, 06:10 AM
Anyone know if this was filmed or where I can find a torrent?
http://www.wrestleview.com/news08/1223761455.shtml
Gertner
10-12-2008, 09:02 AM
lol I'm not surprised that somebody got arrested at this. Just surprised it wasn't Shiek for attacking Blair.
Nervous Ferret
10-12-2008, 09:03 AM
i laughed
You've... never seen a roast, have you?
Have you ever seen one? Maybe you don't understand the concept of them. Was the roast about Owen Hart? Erm... no.
And apparently Scott Hall didn't actually get arrested.
Super V
10-12-2008, 10:02 AM
Ppl are way too sensitive these days.
Would you be saying that if people made fun of your dead friend? I doubt it.
Or maybe you're a cunt.
Supreme Olajuwon
10-12-2008, 10:21 AM
I hope everyone who is outraged in this thread is as equally outraged by every other bit of disrespectful humor in the world.
Jimmy Kimmel made a joke about Chris Benoit at a roast and no one seemed too outraged about that.
Chris Benoit murdered 2 people. All bets are off there.
If your mum died and I made a joke about her death, would you laugh?
Super V
10-12-2008, 10:45 AM
Would you be saying that if people made fun of your dead friend? I doubt it.
Or maybe you're a cunt.
Cunt = Pussy. Sounds like you're the cunt. It was 9 years ago. What? Too soon? The joke was about Bill Apter anyway. All that guy was state that Owen Hart is dead.
Supreme Olajuwon
10-12-2008, 11:18 AM
Chris Benoit murdered 2 people. All bets are off there.
If your mum died and I made a joke about her death, would you laugh?
Chris Benoit still had people who cared about him and those people would still be offended by a joke about him. Those people didn't do anything to anyone so why is it ok for them to be subjected to offensive humor, but it's not ok in this case?
And yeah I would probably be offended if someone made a joke at a dead loved one's expense, but you tell me which is worse: telling an inappropriate, offensive joke at a roast or making a drunken spectacle of yourself and physically attacking another human being.
KingofOldSchool
10-12-2008, 11:24 AM
If your mum died and I made a joke about her death, would you laugh?
If it was funny.
Mr. Nerfect
10-12-2008, 11:44 AM
I'm going to take middle ground here. Comedy should not have subject limits. It's not what something is about, but how it is about it. I've seen people make Owen Hart jokes on these board -- it's not that big a deal. Yeah, it's a tragedy that Owen Hart died. World War II was a tragedy, too, but I've heard people make jokes about that, as well.
I've been around people when they have (unknowingly) said something that would qualify as being offensive to me. I don't make an ass of myself by attacking someone, looking like a drunk fuck and nearly getting into some serious trouble with the law. A good friend, you are tempted to defend honour, but you can do that by A) being funnier than the dumbass comedian making awful jokes, or B) using your words and telling him to shut the fuck up about it because it's tasteless, and not the right time, place or venue for this topic matter.
Also, the joke was apparently "When Sheik and Hacksaw Jim were caught snorting coke in the parking lot, Sheik's career fell quicker than Owen Hart." Or something closer to that. That's what I read from this Jimmy Graham guy, who has seemingly taken too many head-shots from his time as a wrestler. He wrote something on his MySpace which makes him seem like an idiot (he says he loved "Owen Heart" as a wrestler and as a man). Too lazy to check the video to see if it's that or the Bill Apter one.
In closing, Jimmy Graham doesn't sound like the funniest man, and seems to substitute shock matter and insults for wit and actual humour, but Scott Hall's drunken reaction was just as primitive, if not more so.
You don't make jokes that will offend your audience. Whole point is to make them laugh.
Gerard
10-12-2008, 12:24 PM
Hall commenting on it .
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Can't argue with the man.
Super V
10-12-2008, 01:42 PM
"Bill Apter, you're deader than Owen Hart."
Whether the joke is funny or not aside, where is that offensive to Owen Hart? Last I checked he is in fact dead. Was it a secret?
Stop trolling fucker. It's over.
Super V
10-12-2008, 02:41 PM
Being serious. I don't see where the joke was offensive. This whole thing comes off to me as Scott Hall looking for some attention.
Kane Knight
10-12-2008, 04:26 PM
That "Joke" was out of line because owen was not the subject of the roast,Sheik was.Good thing Bret wasnt there..he would have had a stroke and then wrote about it.
Have you ever seen one? Maybe you don't understand the concept of them. Was the roast about Owen Hart? Erm... no.
It didn't have to be about Owen Hart. The main issue is less that Owen was brought into it specifically, and more that the joke was terrible. This isn't without precedent in roasts or in comedy in general; no person is off limit strictly for being dead or the circumstances. But when you make a joke about a corpse, especially one who died tragically, you'd damn well better make it funny.
Jimmy Kimmel made a joke about Chris Benoit at a roast and no one seemed too outraged about that.
Just to preface, I'm not "outraged" per se. Doesn't make the joke funny, mind.
Now, this is the first I've heard about the Kimmel "joke." I neither know the context or the specifics, but I'm betting it wasn't funny, either. Mostly because Jimmy Kimmel isn't.
Then again, we probably wouldn't be hearing about this "joke," either, had Hall not gotten his panties in a wad. Perhaps letting the joke die on its own would have been a better idea.
D Mac
10-12-2008, 04:53 PM
Hall commenting on it .
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Hell yeah
Would he have said the joke if Bret Hart was standing there?
Innovator
10-12-2008, 05:09 PM
little too old to change your weight? idiot
Innovator
10-12-2008, 05:09 PM
But yeah the Owen line was not right
It not like there isn't a time and place for jokes like this but this wasn't one of those times and certainly not in that company.
Bad Company
10-12-2008, 06:43 PM
http://www.wrestleview.com/news08/1223761455.shtml
God fucking dammit, do retarded wrestling fans have to chant for everything.
Theo Dious
10-12-2008, 07:26 PM
After hearing the explanation, I'm all behind Hall. Interesting to know that they were friends, I had not heard that before. Gotta say though, if someone said that about a dead friend of mine, I'd probably have the same reaction, drinking or no.
Scott Hall didn't really have that many enemies. People mention Bret Hart because Scott was in the clique but Bret got on fine with Scott Hall, Kevin Nash and Sean Waltman.
ozzman6669
10-12-2008, 08:46 PM
With every stories i've heard about Scott, it looks like his only enemy is himself.
Well I've heard stories of him being a prick to people now and again. Him and Marty Jannetty didn't get on for years and Chris Jericho said in his book that Scott was a bit of a dick to him too.
Good Ol JG
10-12-2008, 09:24 PM
The Jimmy Kimmel joke had to do with Flavor Flav. Jimmy was talking about how Flav has had a lot of kids and he was a bad father, so he said the line "Chris Benoit was a better father than you." Kinda funny now, at the time it was a week or so after the Benoit killings, so it was considerably less funny then.
Now, to weigh in on the issue at hand. I've seen a lot of roasts, and I'm the type who laughs at basically anything, I don't get offended very much. I've seen the deaths of Kurt Cobain, Heath Ledger and others made fun of at roasts, and the jokes were funny, and I wasn't offended. The Owen Hart joke, while not very funny, is not offensive to me, but I can understand how someone close to him would be offended. I buy Hall's argument, if someone had made fun of my friend who had died tragically, I'd be pissed. Hell, at the Pamela Anderson Roast that Courtney Love attended, Jeff Ross said the line "How can Courtney Love look worse than Kurt Cobain?" which I thought was funny, but the woman was right there! Funny to me, but I can see how it's tasteless, the same as I can see how the Owen Hart line is tasteless. Bottom line: the man had every right to make the joke at a roast, and Scott Hall had every right to be upset. He shouldn't have went after the guy, but he should say whatever he wants. That's that.
loopydate
10-13-2008, 07:49 PM
And yeah I would probably be offended if someone made a joke at a dead loved one's expense, but you tell me which is worse: telling an inappropriate, offensive joke at a roast or making a drunken spectacle of yourself and physically attacking another human being.
Nail on head
Actually the joke is worst.
loopydate
10-14-2008, 03:18 PM
An off-color joke is worse than physical assault?
Doing something drunk can be excused in certain circumstances. Being a cock when you're sober is worse.
What physical assault is this anyway? Not like wrestling fans to fucking exaggerate something at all is it? Scott Hall would have smashed most of the guys in that room in a legit fight plus he is like twice the size of the comic.
loopydate
10-14-2008, 03:26 PM
"Threw punches until restrained by security" sounds like assault to me. And under what circumstances is "I hit him 'cause I was drunk" a suitable excuse? Punches are punches, no matter what your BAC is.
Yeah, I'm sorry but making a joke in the company of people who he must have known there was a chance of a bad reaction (not to mention it was such a shit joke that it just comes off as insulting) is worse than a man drunkenly and physically pointing out he was wrong/sticking up for somebody he knew personally. And physical assault? Get real you PC tart, Hall wouldn't have been out of line breaking his nose, let alone whiffing some punches and looking like a clown doing crotch chops
"Threw punches until restrained by security" sounds like assault to me. And under what circumstances is "I hit him 'cause I was drunk" a suitable excuse? Punches are punches, no matter what your BAC is.
Sounds like an assault to me too but that never happened. Watch the video instead of reading the report and then get back to me.
Kris P Lettus
10-14-2008, 04:44 PM
owen was not the subject of the roast,Sheik was.
Have you ever seen one? Maybe you don't understand the concept of them. Was the roast about Owen Hart? Erm... no.
I'm all for Hall standing up for the Nugget but seriously, have y'all ever seen a roast?? The dais and other performers ALWAYS get talked about, not just the Roasted..
loopydate
10-14-2008, 09:27 PM
Sounds like an assault to me too but that never happened. Watch the video instead of reading the report and then get back to me.
I stand corrected. I hadn't watched the video yet. Hall still made an ass out of himself, but at least he didn't go after the guy physically.
And, for the record, I was never defending the joke. The joke was in bad taste. But at a roast, everybody roasts everybody, and for somebody to take that kind of exception to a joke (no matter how un-PC or how unfunny) is ridiculous. Nothing and nobody is off-limits at a roast.
When you are being roasted, nothing is off limits. Your peers shouldn't be either if there are there at the roast. If someone is mocking the way one of my friends or family tragically dead then I'd have a problem. However if there are three people who would be off limits then it's Owen Hart, John Tenta and Nancy Benoit.
I'm all for Hall standing up for the Nugget but seriously, have y'all ever seen a roast?? The dais and other performers ALWAYS get talked about, not just the Roasted..
They don't make fun of tragic deaths of people in front of their friends and family though. It's not like he was a junkie who OD'd or something.
It would be like making fun of Chris Benoit being a great husband with Kevin Sullivan sitting there. Not cool.
Funky Fly
10-15-2008, 12:05 AM
little too old to change your weight? idiot
ways not weight
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