The NXE topic, public release Nov. 19, now with a list of HDD game installfile sizes.

[KingofOldSchool]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/v78cub

There is the update.

Download and unzip the file, then burn it onto a CD.

And then put the disc into your 360 and then restart the system.

You then should be prompted to install the update.

BE WARNED: Once you do this, you can NOT log onto X-Box Live until November 19th when the update is actually released.

So if you really want to use the install feature and you can wait a shade over two weeks to use Live, then here it is in all its glory.

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HDD game install file sizes, use this as a tool to determine your space, games you want to install, etc.

Army of Two.........................[5.7GB]
Assassin's Creed....................[6.7GB]
Battlefield Bad Company.............[6.5GB]
Battlestations: Midway..............[5.5GB]
Beautiful Katamari..................[3.4GB]
Big Bumpin'.........................[Not Supported]
Bioshock............................[6.1GB]
Blazing Angels......................[3.4GB]
Blue Dragon.........................[19.9GB]
Bully: Scholarship Edition..........[3.4GB]
Burnout Paradise....................[3.4GB]
Burnout Revenge.....................[4.4GB]
C&C: Tiberium Wars..................[6.6GB]
Call of Duty 2......................[6.0GB]
Call of Duty 3......................[5.8GB]
Call of Duty 4......................[6.7GB]
Cars................................[5.2GB]
Civilization Revolution.............[6.3GB]
Club, The...........................[5.2GB]
Clive Barker's Jericho..............[5.6GB]
Colin McRae Dirt....................[6.4GB]
Command & Conquer 3.................[3.6GB]
Condemned: Criminal Origins.........[5.4GB]
Condemned 2: Bloodshot..............[6.8GB]
Crackdown...........................[Not Supported]
Darkness, The.......................[6.8GB]
Dark Sector.........................[3.4GB]
Dead or Alive 4.....................[6.8GB]
Dead or Alive Xtreme 2..............[Not Supported]
Dead Rising.........................[6.6GB]
Dead Space..........................[6.6GB]
Dynasty Warriors Gundam.............[5.6GB]
F.E.A.R.............................[4.0GB]
Fable II............................[6.8GB]
Fallout 3...........................[5.9GB]
Far Cry 2...........................[4.5GB]
FIFA 09.............................[6.0GB]
Fight Night Round 3.................[3.4GB]
Flatout Ultimate Carnage............[4.9GB]
Forza 2.............................[5.3GB]
Fracture............................[4.1GB]
Full Auto...........................[3.4GB]
Gears of War........................[6.5GB]
Gears of War 2......................[6.7GB]
Ghost Recon: Advance Warfighter.....[5.2GB]
Ghost Recon: Advance Warfighter 2...[6.8GB]
GRID................................[6.6GB]
GTA IV..............................[6.8GB]
Guitar Hero 2.......................[3.4GB]
Guitar Hero: World Tour.............[3.4GB]
Gun.................................[3.6GB]
Halo 3..............................[6.3GB]
Hitman: Blood Money.................[5.8GB]
Infinite Undiscovery................[12.5GB]
Just Cause..........................[5.6GB]
Kameo: Elements of Power............[5.9GB]
King Kong...........................[6.5GB]
Lara Croft Tomb Raider: Legend......[6.7GB]
LEGO Batman.........................[6.0GB]
LEGO Indiana Jones..................[4.4GB]
LEGO Star Wars: Complete Saga.......[5.8GB]
LEGO Star Wars: Original Trilogy....[3.4GB]
Lost Odyssey........................[23.2GB]
Lost Planet.........................[6.8GB]
Lost Via Domus......................[4.2GB]
LOTR: Battle For Middle Earth.......[4.4GB]
Madden 2009.........................[6.7GB]
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance...........[5.9GB]
Mass Effect.........................[6.8GB]
Mercenaries 2.......................[6.4GB]
Midnight Club: LA...................[6.0GB]
NBA 2K9.............................[3.4GB]
NBA Live 09.........................[6.3GB]
NFL Head Coach 2009.................[5.8GB]
NFS Most Wanted.....................[6.8GB]
NHL 09..............................[5.7GB]
Ninja Gaiden II.....................[6.8GB]
Oblivion............................[6.7GB]
Orange Box, The.....................[4.7GB]
Perfect Dark Zero...................[5.3GB]
Pocket Bike Racers..................[Not Supported]
Prey................................[5.0GB]
Project Gotham Racing 3.............[6.2GB]
Project Gotham Racing 4.............[6.0GB]
Pro Evolution Soccer 6..............[3.4GB]
Quake 4.............................[5.9GB]
Quantum of Solace...................[6.8GB]
Rainbow Six: Vegas..................[6.7GB]
Rainbow Six: Vegas 2................[6.6GB]
Rock Band 2.........................[6.3GB]
Saints Row..........................[6.8GB]
Saints Row 2........................[6.8GB]
Scene It............................[6.8GB]
SEGA Rally..........................[4.2GB]
Shadowrun...........................[4.3GB]
Simpson's Game, The.................[4.7GB]
skate...............................[6.8GB]
Sneak King..........................[Not Supported]
Soul Calibur IV.....................[5.9GB]
Spider-man Web of Shadows...........[6.2GB]
Splinter Cell: Double Agent.........[6.8GB]
Star Trek Legacy....................[5.7GB]
Stranglehold........................[6.7GB]
Stuntman Ignition...................[5.8GB]
The Forced Unleashed................[6.6GB]
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 09.............[6.0GB]
Timeshift...........................[5.8GB]
Tomb Raider Anniversary.............[6.4GB]
Tony Hawk's American Wasteland......[5.0GB]
Too Human...........................[6.2GB]
Unreal Tournament 3.................[6.4GB]
Viva Pinata.........................[5.0GB]
Xbox Live Arcade Compilation Disc...[5.9GB]

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I'd probably do this as I'm pretty burned out on most of my games online at the moment, BUT Gears 2 comes out in about 5 days so I gotta take a pass

[KingofOldSchool]

I'm actually going to wait a week and see if DLC for Smackdown vs. Raw 2009 will be available around launch before I do this.

And I want to get a 120GB HDD as well.

[darkpower]

Mii's...now in HD!

[Kane Knight]

Mii's...now in HD!

Considering the concept and name are both ripped from Microsoft....

[Vietnamese Crippler]

The only thing I want from this is the "rip games to hard drive" function. But considering my paltry 20GB HDD, I think I can wait for this update :-\

[darkpower]

Considering the concept and name are both ripped from Microsoft....

Yeah, like they "invented" custom soundtracks (which they also tried to say they invented)?

[Funky Fly]

The only thing I want from this is the "rip games to hard drive" function. But considering my paltry 20GB HDD, I think I can wait for this update :-\

Just a few things:

1. Get some damn games. :mad: You haven't played anything yet on your 360 apparently.

2. Get the 120GB HDD. With all the Rock Band and Guitar Hero ish, not to mention Live Marketplace awesomeness out there, you'll really need it.

3. Ripping games to the HDD makes only a slight difference in load times thus far, according to gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/hardware/blogs/hardware-insider/909185655/26656232/xbox-360-hard-drive-game-installation-testing.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=picks&tag=picks;title;5). Also, you still need the disc to run your shit, so no stocking up on gamefly rentals.

[Kane Knight]

Yeah, like they "invented" custom soundtracks (which they also tried to say they invented)?

Who said they invented them? Oops.

[KingofOldSchool]

3. Ripping games to the HDD makes only a slight difference in load times thus far, according to gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/hardware/blogs/hardware-insider/909185655/26656232/xbox-360-hard-drive-game-installation-testing.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=picks&tag=picks;title;5). Also, you still need the disc to run your shit, so no stocking up on gamefly rentals.

It's not about the load times, it's more about taking a lot of stress off of the DVD Drive which also reduces the noise that the 360 makes.

[darkpower]

Who said they invented them? Oops.

Microsoft. They were the ones that tried to file a patent on it, after all.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

Just a few things:

1. Get some damn games. :mad: You haven't played anything yet on your 360 apparently.

2. Get the 120GB HDD. With all the Rock Band and Guitar Hero ish, not to mention Live Marketplace awesomeness out there, you'll really need it.

3. Ripping games to the HDD makes only a slight difference in load times thus far, according to gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/hardware/blogs/hardware-insider/909185655/26656232/xbox-360-hard-drive-game-installation-testing.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=picks&tag=picks;title;5). Also, you still need the disc to run your shit, so no stocking up on gamefly rentals.

I've only connected to Live twice: once to make my account and once to download the update that lets me play Shenmue II. I'm just waiting for a good deal on a wireless adapter and also the 120GB HDD.

And KoOS is right, one of the bigger drawing points of the game ripping is to reduce the noise. I watched a video they did on IGN where they tested the console before and after the update, and the noise levels were reduced pretty significantly.

[KingofOldSchool]

Added a list of so far known game install file sizes.

[Kane Knight]

Microsoft. They were the ones that tried to file a patent on it, after all.

Oddly enough, I didn't bring that up.

Oops.

[Kane Knight]

Anyway, the "for dummies" version of why DP is wrong:

Nobody really said they invented it. However, Microsoft had a digital service prior to the Wii. Almost a decade before, they had a service called Wiimiis or something to that effect.

But yeah, Microsoft is the one copying Miis. After all, Nintendo isn't under like six different lawsuits for ripping off patents right now.

More of the "for dummies" commentary, DP, they didn't try to patent, they did patent methods for custom soundtrack application.

Oops. I guess darkpower should think before he starts talking.

[darkpower]

Anyway, the "for dummies" version of why DP is wrong:

Nobody really said they invented it. However, Microsoft had a digital service prior to the Wii. Almost a decade before, they had a service called Wiimiis or something to that effect.

But yeah, Microsoft is the one copying Miis. After all, Nintendo isn't under like six different lawsuits for ripping off patents right now.

More of the "for dummies" commentary, DP, they didn't try to patent, they did patent methods for custom soundtrack application.

Oops. I guess darkpower should think before he starts talking.

Yet you never give anything to base your claims on. You just want everyone to just believe you because it's you that said it and then call the OTHER guy wrong.

But then again, I'm arguing with an Xbot, a 360 fanboy, one of the worst of them, at that. That and MS can NEVER do ANYTHING wrong, and that they NEVER ripped off of anyone.

Again, you made the claim, but you're not backing them up and hoping that people just believe you because of your TPWW status, which is really sad.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Oh please, everyone rips off everyone. Did you get in to a <s>Second Life PS3</s> Home beta?

[darkpower]

Oh please, everyone rips off everyone. Did you get in to a <s>Second Life PS3</s> Home beta?

No, and I was wanting to, actually (had the theme that had you qualified as a potential candidate installed). But, not to worry, because that has been rumored (a pretty strong rumor) of the Open Beta for Home to be dropping on...

...well...NOVEMBER 19TH...

...WAAAAIIIIIT!!! You don't think MS....nah, couldn't be! That's just a fanboy argument. No WAY that MS could've....not a chance!

[#BROKEN Hasney]

It's not, it was a misconstrued quote from the AP

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/10/12/Rumor-associated-press-dates-home-for-nov-19/

[darkpower]

Good nonetheless (don't really care WHO announced first). The two can compete it out, actually, which is really good.

However, personally, I think the Home thing will be more appealing to me (even if I had a 360, I don't know if that new interface would really work above what they had. Looks like a XMB prototype and I didn't see what was so wrong with the blades). Yeah, looks like Second Life (which I haven't done at all), but it looks like it's more streamlined than that and looks a lot more social and realistic than NXE (which just looks like a Mii ripoff to me).

My guess is that because of LBP and as much socializing as you have to do to get some of the trophies in that game (I spent about a week creating a level to get some of the trophies that require you to make one. Just published it today, actually), they would have to get Home out there ASAP to take advantage of the social aspects and to meet new people. This is something that I've been waiting for and was kind of pissed that they delayed it from the Spring to now. Hopefully we'll see devs take advantage of the proposed Home intergration with the games (Bioshock was one that was at one point bragging about it's intergration).

[Kane Knight]

Yet you never give anything to base your claims on. You just want everyone to just believe you because it's you that said it and then call the OTHER guy wrong.

But then again, I'm arguing with an Xbot, a 360 fanboy, one of the worst of them, at that. That and MS can NEVER do ANYTHING wrong, and that they NEVER ripped off of anyone.

Again, you made the claim, but you're not backing them up and hoping that people just believe you because of your TPWW status, which is really sad.

You may be arguing with an X-Bot, but you're surely not arguing with me. You're making up statements like "MS can NEVER do ANYTHING wrong" and "they NEVER ripped off of anyone," which are things nobody said.

I'm also not sure why you think I rely on my reputation on this forum. Two of the three statements I made are ones in which I have provided evidence prior to this thread in threads where you were involved. A USPTO search will give you the patent for custom soundtracks. But you already knew that. You already knew about lawsuits against Nintendo for patent infringement, also already posted.

What's left? Well, Avatars. If you're not familiar with avatars in gaming before the Mii was created, pretty sure you've never been near an electronic device before.

[Kane Knight]

It's not, it was a misconstrued quote from the AP

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/10/12/Rumor-associated-press-dates-home-for-nov-19/

What fanboyish reasoning to consider the facts instead of making baseless claims and then trying to imply bad things about one or the other....

[#BROKEN Hasney]

What fanboyish reasoning to consider the facts instead of making baseless claims and then trying to imply bad things about one or the other....

What? Why are you defending Sega in this?. It's always the same with you, banging on about the Master System and what-not. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[KingofOldSchool]

What? Why are you defending Sega in this?. It's always the same with you, banging on about the Master System and what-not. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Sega CD, FTW

[Kane Knight]

What? Why are you defending Sega in this?. It's always the same with you, banging on about the Master System and what-not. :roll: :roll: :roll:

You should talk, with all your "The 2600 is the perfect system" and "Atari can do no wrong."

[#BROKEN Hasney]

All I said was that the Atari had the best online system and I stand by that. You can keep your free Seganet, I'll pay my £10 a year for some Custers Last Stand with voice chat KTHX

[RoXer]

So about the sharing streaming video...is it JUST with Netflix movies? Or can I dl a movie from a torrent/watch a DVD, hook up with a party of friends, and have them all watch it too?

Because that would be disgusting as shit.

[KingofOldSchool]

So about the sharing streaming video...is it JUST with Netflix movies? Or can I dl a movie from a torrent/watch a DVD, hook up with a party of friends, and have them all watch it too?

Because that would be disgusting as shit.

Just Netflix.

[Kane Knight]

All I said was that the Atari had the best online system and I stand by that. You can keep your free Seganet, I'll pay my £10 a year for some Custers Last Stand with voice chat KTHX

You never give anything to base your claims on. You just want everyone to believe you because it's YOU arguing. But then again, I'm arguing with an A-Tard, an Atari fanboy, one of the worst of them. That and Atari can NEVER do anything wrong, and they NEVER ripped off anyone.

Not to mention that Atari's online is just Peer to Peer. It may be impossible to find players on most games because nobody uses Seganet, but at least I'm not paying anything.

Besides, if both Sony and Nintendo go off the map in the next four months, the Dreamcast could become the #1 system on the market.

[Kalyx triaD]

So the NXE comes in a week. I have a Q:

Can you sort your friends into categories now? Like a have a "TPWW" column, "Family" column and all that. It's a pretty standard thing for social listings in most systems.

[KingofOldSchool]

Wooo just got to install the NXE.

[Kane Knight]

Any good? I'm not gonna rush out and DL it before the 19th, but I am curious as to some feedback other than the tards screaming that it's awesome or it sucks.

[KingofOldSchool]

Any good? I'm not gonna rush out and DL it before the 19th, but I am curious as to some feedback other than the tards screaming that it's awesome or it sucks.

Obviously it'll take some time getting adjusted to the interface. I don't really care about the avatars because they never give you good enough customization.

[D Mac]

Wonder what time it will be up.

[Funky Fly]

Yeah, got my xbox on rn because they said the d/l would be automatic.

[D Mac]

3 am here and still not up yet. I bet there's some kind of problem or delay.

[HankScorpio]

Just finished installing it. don't know what all the fuss is about, t'ain't nothin special

[Disturbed316]

Downloaded it about two hours ago and like the layout, but the avatars are very homosexual at the moment.

Also, somewhere it has majorly fucked up. I went to download some songs from Rock Band via the in game store, yet it says that my family settings are restricting me from doing it, and when I check my settings I dont have any in place. I could download stuff from there before hand with no problems whatsoever so have no idea why its started to be a prick about it.

[Kane Knight]

Turned on the Box at 9, got prompted for an update. So instead of playing SR2, I've been dicking around with Avatars, looking at the new settings, and setting up a background that I could read all the text on.

I'm trying the install process on SR2, though I'm not sure I will be usuing the feature regularly. I just want to see the difference.

Disturbed, there are a lot of glitches with the Marketplace right now, and they should be fixed soon (Of course, with MS, that could mean Christmas).

[Disturbed316]

Thats handy to know, its very annoying not being able to use RB's store. At the moment I haven't tried installing a game, but have used my avatar in Scene It, doesn't do much really but its a nice touch.

Finally deleted all those annoying game trials I had on my game history aswell, god they were annoying.

[Kane Knight]

Hell, just scrolling down to the install option, I get an error code, because it has "downloads" between play and install.

[Disturbed316]

Yeah I got that too. Just installed SvR09, took about 6.3gb up. Doubt I'll use this feature much, but it does seem alot quieter and I'm sure will help against RROD's occuring as its not always firing up and down.

[Boomer]

Already seen one of my three friends with basically my identical clothes on...probably going to be pretty common. Oh well, I like it all so far.

[Disturbed316]

http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/NJackson21/avatar-body.png

Thats me, although I look nothing really like that. Hope they will release new stuff for these soon.

[Boomer]

LOL it was you

http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/Jtboomer2/avatar-body.png

[Disturbed316]

Nice shirt.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Are you two gonna gay each other right now?

[Kane Knight]

Yeah I got that too. Just installed SvR09, took about 6.3gb up. Doubt I'll use this feature much, but it does seem alot quieter and I'm sure will help against RROD's occuring as its not always firing up and down.

Yeah, I installed three games just to see how much of a difference it would make. The other two were Fable 2 and Rock Band 2, because they were the only discs I play close to regularly right now. 20 GB overall installation size. Haven't tried RB2 yet, but it does make a difference on the other two. It's likely I will simply delete RB2, because it doesn't make that much of a difference, but SR2 will be good because it means less loading times while playing online.

I can't see myself using this feature much, though. Maybe for a couple of my most played games at a time, simply to avoid the extra wear and tear, but...It's mostly pointless.

Already seen one of my three friends with basically my identical clothes on...probably going to be pretty common. Oh well, I like it all so far.

They don't really have a lot of options for clothing or features, so it will be common.

[Triple A]

It's nice. Netflix is great. Been setting up my instant queue for like the last hour.

[Shaggy]

The thing I was gonna love the most about the new experience was Netflix and so far thats what i have been spending the most time with. Been loading up my que and watching old tv shows that I havnt seen in forever...

I really hate the avatar thing right now. I thought I would enjoy it but they had nothng to make mine actually look like mine. So I thought for a second I would just make a cool looking one only to realize that you couldnt really change the hair color to anything besides the basic hair colors. I wanted blue hair...

[D Mac]

I'm getting a lot of "Cant retrieve info on Xbox live" errors. Hopefully it's fixed soon.

[D Mac]

It's nice. Netflix is great. Been setting up my instant queue for like the last hour.

How does the picture look through Netflix?

I'm getting it back this weekend.

[D Mac]

Yeah I still have 95gb left on my HDD, so I'll be installing a few games. :cool:

It still says the dashboard is unavailable when you're playing an original Xbox game, that sucks, hoped that was fixed in this. :n:

[RoXer]

Finally deleted all those annoying game trials I had on my game history aswell

HOW!?!? I've been looking everywhere to do that.

[RoXer]

Oh shit there it is. Under achievements. Duh.

[Kalyx triaD]

I so badly want to change the color of my clothing. Admittingly, its kinda cool seeing you guys as avys - and I'm pleased we all took the 'cartoon version of you' route instead of wacky shit.

I must also say the menu system - to me - is more confusing than the old system. Alot of it is overblown and flashier than it needs to be and I find myself using the blade system to surf around... which kinda makes the download moot for me in the end. Some Marketplace hiccups aside (you had to expect something) everything else seems to be in working order.

[RoXer]

Yeah it's very convoluted to me. Shit is all over the place. It's been a day and I'm still unsure about where things are.

[Kane Knight]

My biggest gripe is that I can't disable more of the tabs.

[Funky Fly]

Spent like 10 minutes dicking around and putting together my avy. Needs more avy parts or everyone will look exactly the same.

D/led SvR09 to the hdd and gonna do Fable 2 when I get back later. They're pretty much all I play these days. I need to get one of those premium themes right quick because everything looks horribly bland, Wii-style rn.

[Shaggy]

lol...ive been watching Netflix all day on my xbox...I love it...

Watched the new episode of Heroes and then got through about 6 episodes of Xena season 1....

I wish other shows would be on here like Heroes the day off....I would love to watch Califonication or True Blood on here...

[Triple A]

How does the picture look through Netflix?

I'm getting it back this weekend.
It looks great. Way better than I expected. It's better than watching a downloaded DivX movie through the Xbox I think.

The HD collection is terrible though. There are maybe 3 things I would want to watch and like 10 I have even heard of among the 300 or so.

[RoXer]

Bo and I went into the Photo Party thing and that works REALLY well. I dunno how great his camera was but he was showing me some of his pictures and they look really clean and crisp.

We should definitly try to get a party going and view some photos.

[RoXer]

I've been having a lot of freezing issues. Most of the time it's when I go into the friends channel, view their profile, and back out. It freezes for about 15 seconds before I can do anything. I've also been having a few marketplace hiccups but those should be fixed.

I have the "night" theme on now. I'm assuming "Premium" themes are the themes for NXE?

[U-Warrior]

Anyone know where the "played games" section is in marketplace now? Didn't see it. Would suck if they took it out, as it was the best category to check for dlc updates.

[Funky Fly]

The new layout is a little confusing. Don't like the new colour scheme or sound effects. How do you get blades back?

lil disappointed in the premium themes. Really only changes the friends page. Otherwise, you may as well stick with the regular ones. Also no free default premium themes? gay. My xbox had like 15 themes when I first got it.

[Funky Fly]

The new layout is a little confusing. Don't like the new colour scheme or sound effects. How do you get blades back?

lil disappointed in the premium themes. Really only changes the friends page. Otherwise, you may as well stick with the regular ones. Also no free default premium themes? gay. My xbox had like 15 themes when I first got it.

[D Mac]

There are some interesting Community games on here.

Gonna download some trials. It's gay that some of these games cost 400 or more MS points.

[D Mac]

It looks great. Way better than I expected. It's better than watching a downloaded DivX movie through the Xbox I think.

The HD collection is terrible though. There are maybe 3 things I would want to watch and like 10 I have even heard of among the 300 or so.

So can you browse movies on the 360 or do you have to set them up on your instant queue on the pc first?

[Drakul]

The NXE was confusing at first and even now I get lost occasionally. I installed Fable II and I can't see any improvements on the load times but the 360 is almost silent when I play it now.
Here's my avatar:
http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/Drakulbites/avatar-body.png
I wish I could change the colour of my trousers though.

[PapaGeorgio]

So can you browse movies on the 360 or do you have to set them up on your instant queue on the pc first?

You must add them to your instant queue for them to show up on your xbox 360.


As for the avatars and shit, they are alright for what they are. Few gripes are they tried to give you all these options, but as it was mentioned you can't change something simple like the colors of clothes and shit. Also they don't have any like kangol type hats for me to sport, so i'm rocking it hatless.

Also did a party which was alright. Like if you want to talk to a friend but not play the same game it is cool. I talked to some friends to college i graduated from which was nice to hear from them. Doubt it will be used much after that.

Also KK you sent me a voice message but I have no flipping clue what it said cause could barely hear any sound, and what i could hear I could make out.

[Kane Knight]

That's odd. I played it back on my speakers before I sent it and it sounded fine.