UFC 92 Discussion (12/27/08)

[Kris P Lettus]

<table class="data_table" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr class="data_title"><td colspan="7">Forrest Griffin Vs. Rashad Evans </td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td width="15">
</td> <td valign="top" width="150"> <table class="data_table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Name:</td> <td>Forrest Griffin</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Height:</td> <td>6' 3" (191 cm)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Weight:</td> <td>205 (93 kg)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Record:</td> <td>16-4-0</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td valign="top" width="185"> http://media.ufc.tv/i.cfc?method=get&s=FF6A8861-1422-0E8C-9AA244A632BACEB7.jpg&rs=40&q=75&x=33&y=33&w=90&h=120&ro=0 (http://www.ufc.com/ForrestGriffin)

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</td> <td align="right" valign="top" width="150"> <table class="data_table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Name:</td> <td>Rashad Evans </td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Height:</td> <td>5' 11" (180 cm)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Weight:</td> <td>205 (93 kg)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Record: </td> <td>16-0-1</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td align="right" valign="top" width="185"> http://media.ufc.tv/i.cfc?method=get&s=356C8D83-1422-0E8C-9A2A59788A29C727.jpg&rs=30&q=75&x=14&y=10&w=90&h=120&ro=0 (http://www.ufc.com/RashadEvans)
"Sugar"
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<table class="data_table" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr class="data_title"> <td colspan="7"> Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Vs. Frank Mir </td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td width="15">
</td> <td valign="top" width="150"> <table class="data_table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Name:</td> <td>Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Height:</td> <td>6' 1" (185 cm)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Weight:</td> <td>240 (109 kg)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Record:</td> <td>31-4-1</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td valign="top" width="185"> http://media.ufc.tv/i.cfc?method=get&s=7213B8AC-1422-0E8C-9A89785E8DD306BF.jpg&rs=35&q=75&x=26&y=18&w=90&h=120&ro=0 (http://www.ufc.com/AntonioRodrigoNogueira)
"Minotauro"
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</td> <td align="right" valign="top" width="150"> <table class="data_table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Name:</td> <td>Frank Mir </td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Height:</td> <td>6' 1" (185 cm)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Weight:</td> <td>240 (109 kg)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Record: </td> <td>11-3-0</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td align="right" valign="top" width="185"> http://media.ufc.tv/i.cfc?method=get&s=D289B4AC-1422-0E8C-9AB12DF877FED7E2.jpg&rs=75&q=75&x=106&y=2&w=90&h=120&ro=0 (http://www.ufc.com/FrankMir)

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<table class="data_table" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr class="data_title"> <td colspan="7"> Wanderlei Silva Vs. Quinton Jackson </td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td width="15">
</td> <td valign="top" width="150"> <table class="data_table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Name:</td> <td>Wanderlei Silva</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Height:</td> <td>5' 11" (180 cm)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Weight:</td> <td>205 (93 kg)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Record:</td> <td>32-8-1</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td valign="top" width="185"> http://media.ufc.tv/i.cfc?method=get&s=3971A82D-1422-0E8C-9A85ECF674670AFF.jpg&rs=35&q=75&x=25&y=14&w=90&h=120&ro=0 (http://www.ufc.com/WanderleiSilva)
"The Axe Murderer"
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</td> <td align="right" valign="top" width="150"> <table class="data_table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Name:</td> <td>Quinton Jackson </td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Height:</td> <td>6' 1" (185 cm)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Weight:</td> <td>205 (93 kg)</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">Record: </td> <td>28-7-0</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td align="right" valign="top" width="185"> http://media.ufc.tv/i.cfc?method=get&s=FF6AF0DF-1422-0E8C-9A8B1D9A9DF82E5B.jpg&rs=25&q=75&x=5&y=5&w=90&h=120&ro=0 (http://www.ufc.com/QuintonJackson)
"Rampage"
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Here's the whole card:

UFC® 92 THE ULTIMATE 2008


<table id="FightCardPrint" class="data_table" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><thead> <tr> <th>Name</th> <th>Height</th> <th>Weight</th> <th>Record</th> <th>
</th> <th>Name</th> <th>Height</th> <th>Weight</th> <th>Record</th> </tr> </thead> <tfoot> </tfoot> <tbody> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td>Forrest Griffin</td> <td>6' 3" (191 cm)</td> <td>205</td> <td>16-4-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Rashad Evans</td> <td>5' 11" (180 cm)</td> <td>205</td> <td>16-0-1</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td>Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira</td> <td>6' 1" (185 cm)</td> <td>240</td> <td>31-4-1</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Frank Mir</td> <td>6' 1" (185 cm)</td> <td>240</td> <td>11-3-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td>CB Dollaway</td> <td>6' 2" (188 cm)</td> <td>185</td> <td>8-2-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Mike Massenzio</td> <td>6' 2" (188 cm)</td> <td>185</td> <td>11-2-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td>Wanderlei Silva</td> <td>5' 11" (180 cm)</td> <td>205</td> <td>32-8-1</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Quinton Jackson</td> <td>6' 1" (185 cm)</td> <td>205</td> <td>28-7-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td>Cheick Kongo</td> <td>6' 4" (193 cm)</td> <td>240</td> <td>22-4-1</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Mustapha Al-Turk</td> <td>n/a</td> <td>0</td> <td>6-3-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td>Yushin Okami</td> <td>6' 2" (188 cm)</td> <td>185</td> <td>23-4-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Dean Lister</td> <td>6' 1" (185 cm)</td> <td>185</td> <td>11-5-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td>Antoni Hardonk</td> <td>6' 4" (193 cm)</td> <td>245</td> <td>7-4-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Mark Burch</td> <td>n/a</td> <td>0</td> <td>9-2-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td>Matt Hamill</td> <td>6' 1" (185 cm)</td> <td>205</td> <td>6-1-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Reese Andy</td> <td>5' 10" (178 cm)</td> <td>205</td> <td>7-2-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td>Ryo Chonan</td> <td>5' 9" (175 cm)</td> <td>170</td> <td>14-8-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Brad Blackburn</td> <td>5' 10" (178 cm)</td> <td>170</td> <td>13-9-1</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td>Dan Evensen</td> <td>6' 3" (191 cm)</td> <td>250</td> <td>10-3-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Pat Barry</td> <td>5' 11" (180 cm)</td> <td>230</td> <td>3-0-0</td></tr></tbody></table>

[Kris P Lettus]

Prolly the best triple mainevent I can ever remember..

[Nark Order]

What a fucking ridiculous card.

[El Fangel]

That is fucking insane. Hopefully I can see it.

I am going to say

Evans - Round 2 - TKO
Mir - Goes to Decision
Silva - Round 3

[Kris P Lettus]

No way Nog/Mir goes to a decision.. Both of those guys are BJJ black belts.. Someone is gonna tap..

[El Fangel]

I think because they are BJJ Blackbelts, they would not get into a situation where they would tap, anyways just my opinion.

[Kris P Lettus]

Nog will make Mir tap..

guaranteed

[Loose Cannon]

Nice card. Looks a lot better then 91 all around to me at least. I hope Nog beats Mir, so we get Nog/Brock.

I'm all for Rampage/dickhead though

[Destor]

My money (as stated in the MMA thread) is on Nog.

[Nark Order]

Nog will make Mir tap..

guaranteed

[Nark Order]

I can't really decide on the Griffin/Evans fight. I want to say Griffin but Rashad has been quite the buzzkill lately.

[Innovator]

Nog, definitely

[Innovator]

That should be Rashad's new name, RASHAAAD "THE BUZZKILL" EVAAAAANS

I can hear Bruce Buffer now

[Kris P Lettus]

Nog
Griffin
Rampage

[Innovator]

http://images2.hiboox.com/images/4608/f40ed04c0d4ed31d5b494dcc06aa3450.gif?mcAuth=%2FBcAG0kg7JcAAPdnBT3Y0Ukg7NMIE6QraxayD4gAAA%3D%3D

[Kris P Lettus]

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/9503/jiujitsufj7.jpg

[Destor]

ROFL

[Rob]

Can't see Nog losing to Mir in any circumstance.

Evans can KO Griffin and obviously out wrestle him. I'm taking Griffin to win but this is the closest of the 3 fights.

Rampage is gonna muller Silva. Welcome to the world of fighting huge world class 205lbs when you aren't on steroids Wanderlai.

[Rob]

Can't see Nog losing to Mir in any circumstance.

Evans can KO Griffin and obviously out wrestle him. I'm taking Griffin to win but this is the closest of the 3 fights.

Rampage is gonna muller Silva. Welcome to the world of fighting huge world class 205lbs when you aren't on steroids Wanderlai.

[CSL]

No way is any caucasian male named 'Forrest Griffin'

[Rob]

Never been to Alabama or Georgia then eh? :D

[Loose Cannon]

lol, how do you know about Alabama Rob? have you been to a few pig races and ho downs?

[Rob]

I used to date a chick from there.

[Impact!]

Forrest via Decision
Nog via Submission (Third round)
Wanderlei via TKO (Third Round)

[Kris P Lettus]

MISSISSIPPI REPRESENT

[Confused]

I hope Nog tears that fucking cunt Mir apart.

[Rob]

What did I tell you about Rampage? That's called "getting your wolf on" baby! OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Danny Electric]

So whats hapened so far?

[Danny Electric]

Who does Rob owe money too?

[Rob]

Should have been RP but he never took the bet.

Like I said in the other thread, Nog looked shot. Total shell of his former self. Credit to Mir but I honestly think it was more Nog looking awful than Mir looking great. Mir vs. Lesnar II is a bigger fight anyway for business.

[Danny Electric]

I think Brock looked worried when the camera cut to him at the end of that fight, or was that just me.

[Rob]

Just you.

Rashad Evans has some serious power. I think Rampage would still murder him though. Hopefully they do that fight in 9 weeks in London since that show is lacking a main event big time and Rampage will probably be main eventing it regardless now.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I think Rashad could still beat Rampage, he seems to find ways to get things done.

[Vastardikai]

Kongo takes a ball shot, returns the favor, then beats the dog shit out of Mustafa.

I was surprised by the outcome of Wand/'Page. But that's because I forgot that 1. Wand isn't as good as he used to be and 2. 'Page is better than he used to be.

Leg kicks are a bitch, right Emerson (do I have the right guy?)? Hamil is a fucking beast. And CB looked dominant using the GnP from the rear guard.

I didn't see Mir/Nogiera's finish coming. Neither did most people with common sense. Calling it now: Someone is gonna bitch about Herb Dean "stopping the fight early."

I told a friend of mine that Rashad Evans was bit by Arlovski. Sadly, I said Shad, and he thought I meant the guy from Cryme Tyme. I then explained that Evans had fangs. I felt Evans was gonna win. I knew it in the second round, when Forest's onslaught only got a "Suck my Dick" like reaction from 'Shad.

The Hardonk fight was kind of funny. I thought I was hearing Goldberg say "Hard-on was delivering repeated blows to the mouth."

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Rampage merked Wandy's shit though. Some definite retribution for those 2 kos. It was early and emphatic.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Calling it now: Someone is gonna bitch about Herb Dean "stopping the fight early."

You know, I'm sort of pissed about it... I'm torn honestly.. I do honestly think Herb Dean was quick to call it. I'm not saying Nog was going to get out of it, I'm just saying the ref should have given it a couple more seconds. I mean, Kongo and Evans pounded on their opponents when they were blatantly out of it a lot longer than Mir was on Nog, a guy known for being in that posistion.

With that said though, Mir figured Nog out, and he did have his number. He just kept rocking him and then making him stand back up, which was a brillant strategy...

[Reavant]

Well a hero of mine died tonight... RIP Silva!

NOW I HAVE TO LISTEN TO ANOTHER FUCKIN SIX MONTHS OF BROK LESNAR SAY FRANK MUUUUUR! :mad:

[Rob]

You know, I'm sort of pissed about it... I'm torn honestly.. I do honestly think Herb Dean was quick to call it. I'm not saying Nog was going to get out of it, I'm just saying the ref should have given it a couple more seconds. I mean, Kongo and Evans pounded on their opponents when they were blatantly out of it a lot longer than Mir was on Nog, a guy known for being in that posistion.

With that said though, Mir figured Nog out, and he did have his number. He just kept rocking him and then making him stand back up, which was a brillant strategy...

How the fuck was Herb Dean quick to end it? Noguiera got up and couldn't walk.

[RP]

I hope Mir destroys Lesnar

[RP]

Also, Rashad Evans is putting together a resume as good if not better then Fedor right now.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

Bad night for Brazil.

[Innovator]

Wow, great striking by Mir. Herb stopping it was the right call, I mean cmon Nog was stumbling when he got up

[Impact!]

Well a hero of mine died tonight... RIP Silva!


:'(

[Savio]

I didn't see Mir/Nogiera's finish coming. Neither did most people with common sense. Calling it now: Someone is gonna bitch about Herb Dean "stopping the fight early."

yeah i did

[Stickman]

Anybody else think Rampage pulled a dick move when punching Silva 3 times while the ref was holding him? The ref jumped in when Silva hit the ground and Rampage still went after him. Not complaining, great finish and I'm happy Rampage won, I just thought it was kind of dickish.

[Rob]

Also, Rashad Evans is putting together a resume as good if not better then Fedor right now.

I don't think their respective CV's are even comparable.

[Rob]

Anybody else think Rampage pulled a dick move when punching Silva 3 times while the ref was holding him? The ref jumped in when Silva hit the ground and Rampage still went after him. Not complaining, great finish and I'm happy Rampage won, I just thought it was kind of dickish.

I think he got in 1 more punch but it's not that much of a big deal. You are told to fight until the ref stops it anyway. There were worse referee calls on the show than what Rampage did here.

Steve Mazzagatti might be finished in the UFC in a couple of months now. Dana White wasn't happy with him at all last night according to a couple of sources.

[Reavant]

dont the athletic commissions assign the refs anyway? The refs in the ufc arent exclussive to the ufc.

[Savio]

Steve Mazzagatti might be finished in the UFC in a couple of months now. Dana White wasn't happy with him at all last night according to a couple of sources.
For the knogo fight? can you post them?

[Innovator]

I miss big John McCarthy

[RP]

I don't think their respective CV's are even comparable.

no clue what you're saying. whats CV?

[RP]

fucking spell the words out. That shit pisses me off everytime. WTF is CV.

[Rob]

dont the athletic commissions assign the refs anyway? The refs in the ufc arent exclussive to the ufc.

Yeah but the rumour is he'll be finished as a ref in general by mid 09.

[Rob]

fucking spell the words out. That shit pisses me off everytime. WTF is CV.

Fuck sake. Ain't you got access to Google, Wikipedia or know anything about the world?

CV = Curriculum vitae. What most people outside the states call a "resume".

[Reavant]

Yeah but the rumour is he'll be finished as a ref in general by mid 09.
well that doesnt have anything to do with dana liking him
Fuck sake. Ain't you got access to Google, Wikipedia or know anything about the world?

CV = Curriculum vitae. What most people outside the states call a "resume".

Ok I figured CV was like career victories or something like that. Curriculum vitae? I have never seen that used ever before and i read a lot.

[Vastardikai]

well, considering that Congo DELIBERATELY Knee'd Al Turk in the groin and wasn't DQ'd may have something to do with it.

[Reavant]

HAHA! wow! you realize the shit storm that kongo could have raised? Theres no way from the position they were in that you could prove that it was deliberate whether it was or not because it happens so much in that position and depending on the body type of you or your opponent theres no way it wont happen. Al Turk got kongo because kongo's legs are so long that he couldnt reach his stomach and kongo could argue that al turk was too close for him to get his knee up and didnt realize till he threw it. Mind you I think it was deliberate, but shut up dude if you dont know what your talking about.

[Vastardikai]

I mean, the fact that it happens within 5 minutes of the first shot kind of makes it questionable. I am being a whiny cock for something that is easier to be a whiny cock about than bitching about an early stop for a guy who wasn't able to stand straight and had been rocked 2 times previous.

In the end, Maz made the right call in that situation. Warn them both to keep it clean.

Maz does have a track record for shit calls, though.

[Fabien Barthez]

You can't prove intentions. I think it was purpose as well, but justifying DQing someone for the same thing that just happened to them in the same circumstance would require Johnny Cochrane. and he's dead if i'm not mistaken.

[Blue Demon]

I was hoping Wanderlai would win :'(

[Impact!]

I think alot of people were :'(

[Rob]

I was hoping Wanderlai would win :'(

Why?

Since that 2nd fight, Rampage is 8-2 and was only stopped once. Silva is 5-6 and not has he lost 4 out of his last 5 fights, he was knocked the fuck out cold in 3 of those.

A win for him would have only hurt the division really.

Shogun better be running from Rampage now.

[Kris P Lettus]

Rampage>*

You can't argue with FACTS..

[Reavant]

Why?



I think the most simple answer would be that they are fans of wanderlei

[Impact!]

Bingo

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

http://i40.tinypic.com/243f6o3.jpg

[Stickman]

Silva was out for awhile too, I thought he was dead.

[KillerWolf]

anyone else feel that in the post fight interview, CB Daloway came off a little...well...fruity?

[Savio]

I thought he was dead too.....lol look at his leg twitching.

I am actually certain CB is gay

[Stickman]

I'm more curious as to why CB fought after Page/Silva.

[Rob]

I thought he was dead too.....lol look at his leg twitching.

I am actually certain CB is gay

He is one of those gays who just does not want to admit it so he goes out of his way to make himself look straight.

[Fabien Barthez]

He is gay for sure.

[Vastardikai]

CB = Cock Blower?

[Fignuts]

So happy Evans won. Ecstatic right now.