Liger

[The Naitch]

What are your thoughts on him?

And btw, how tall is he?

[CANADIAN]

He is a legend in puroresu. A pioneer of Junior Wrestling. I believe he is 5'3" . I have a bio of him on my site http://legendsofthering.150m.com

[Loose Cannon]

Him and Pillman had some kick ass matches in WCW.

[Funky Fly]

He is the man.

I've seen some of his matches, and if you like ground-based wrestling, you will like him.

[Rob]

Legend but I don't like him ever since he worked Monday Nitro in the Russo era. He was told to drop the IWGP Jnr hvy title to Juventud Guerrera and not only did he not bring the belt with him to the ring but he failed to catch Juvi on a plancha and nearly killed him. Totally unprofessional.

[CANADIAN]

See J Cup 94, his semi final match with Sasuke is one of the best, if not the best match ever.

[Funky Fly]

he failed to catch Juvi on a plancha and nearly killed him. Totally unprofessional.
Not bringing the belt is one thing, but if the plancha miss was intentional, he is a bastard of the highest degree. :nono:

[Rob]

Well Juvi asked him later why he didn't catch him and he wouldn't give him an answer or apologize.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

He's awesome. His match with Sasuke was badass. I prefer Junior Liger to heavyweight Liger anyday. Palm strikes own all.

[Funky Fly]

Well Juvi asked him later why he didn't catch him and he wouldn't give him an answer or apologize.
Wow. :|

[The Naitch]

I'm just learning about the guy right now. I know he has a biography, but I don't feel like reading it all. So I need to ask these question...

What ground based or heavyweight moves does he do, besides the Liger Bomb?

What's his moveset like?

[CANADIAN]

IWGP is a prestigious title.. I can see why he wouldnt bring it.

[CANADIAN]

Brainbuster, Palm Strikes, lots of submissions, SSP, Flying Body Attack, Hurracarans.. By the way where can I get the Nitro where that happened?

[The Naitch]

probably a dedication website or something

[Mister Sinister]

Well, While I'm a huge fan of Liger, I'm ashamed that he didn't catch Juvi off the Plancha, I actually throught he was more professional then that, Then again, this is the same man, Who stop being friends with Hayabusa, because he refused to go to New Japan.

Now, however the Title Part, I can understand, One, Vince Russo shouldn't have asked and demended a title change since it's not his company's belt to do so with, But then again, I'm sure that, Russo might of gotten permission for a Title change, but then again, that is Russo we're talking about.......

[The Naitch]

was this "not catching Juvi" thing after or before the "hoot and toot incident"?

[Rob]

He was told by his own bosses in New Japan to drop the title to a WCW wrestler and he'd get it back a week later. He brought the belt to Nitro but never took it to the ring. Juvi had to get the belt backstage and made sure pictures where taken of him wearing it (for the Japanese magazines and such to make people believe it happened). Russo is a dick, no argument there and how he got the belt back to Liger was stupid but if Liger had caught Juvi, he would have been physically able to step in a ring a week later and drop the title back to him.

[Sensei Of Mattitude]

Screw Juvi, he is a little punk ass b*tch... Liger shouldn't have to drop the gold to him.

[Mister Sinister]

Well, just checking the Officially Title History of New Japan and the Jr. Heavyweight Title, I guess they actually acknowledged the title change....

[CANADIAN]

Where did you guys find out about the Hayabusa thing, and what Nitro was this on?

[Mister Sinister]

http://bahufmw0.tripod.com/Hayabio.html

But here is what is says

Eiji Ezaki remained out of action for a couple months as he healed and waited for his contract with FMW to expire so he could decide what to do with his career. While in Florida, he decided to go backstage to a WCW World Wide taping show where his best friend Jushin Liger would be. Liger and Ezaki talked for awhile which lead to Liger offering Ezaki a contract with New Japan Pro Wrestling, where Ezaki would be pushed as one of the top Jr. Heavyweights for the promotion for much more money than he was receiving with FMW. Ezaki sat back and waited awhile to make the decision that would probably affect the rest of his wrestling career. He ended up choosing to go back to FMW, where he would be used as the Number one wrestler in the promotion. When he called to tell his best friend Jushin Liger, that he was going to stay with FMW instead of going with New Japan, it made Liger furious and Liger began screaming and yelling at his best friend for the stupid decision he apparently was making. Liger then told Ezaki, that if that was his choice, then their friendship was over, Ezaki still decided that staying with FMW was the best thing to do, and he and Liger have not talk to each other since the incident.

[CANADIAN]

Hmmm.... I should add that to my Hayabusa bio on my site.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Legend but I don't like him ever since he worked Monday Nitro in the Russo era. He was told to drop the IWGP Jnr hvy title to Juventud Guerrera and not only did he not bring the belt with him to the ring but he failed to catch Juvi on a plancha and nearly killed him. Totally unprofessional.

To be fair if I was a legend in Japan and told I was going to be jobbing to a bottle of tequila I'd be pretty pissed as well.

Not an excuse but maybe mitigating circumstances to small degree

[Rob]

Well, just checking the Officially Title History of New Japan and the Jr. Heavyweight Title, I guess they actually acknowledged the title change....

They were going to anyway. It was Liger who was being doubted. Without video or photographic proof, Liger could lie and say he never lost the belt.

[CANADIAN]

To be fair if I was a legend in Japan and told I was going to be jobbing to a bottle of tequila I'd be pretty pissed as well.



Agreed.

[The Naitch]

this thread is inspiring :)

[Mister Sinister]

It could always be worse, He could of Ignorged the Finish and started doing Backflips off the Turnbuckles :p

[Rob]

To be fair if I was a legend in Japan and told I was going to be jobbing to a bottle of tequila I'd be pretty pissed as well.

Not an excuse but maybe mitigating circumstances to small degree

I would have walked out of the company if I was told I had to drop a title to Vince Russo, David Arquette or Judy Bagwell. I'd job to a bottle of tequila anyday.

[CANADIAN]

Liger or Juvi who do you guys like more? For me its Liger.

[The Naitch]

I honestly haven't seen enough of them to make a decision.

Whos' more professional out of the two? Now that's a question...

[CANADIAN]

Liger.. Juvi is always getting in trouble.. Hell I just found out he is out of team Triple A (TNA and AAA related)

[Funky Fly]

I prefer Juventud in the ring, but it seems they are both assholes in reality.

[CANADIAN]

In a match I would feel safer with Liger. He is not as careless (and intoxicated) as Juvi.

[Mister Sinister]

In a match I would feel safer with Liger. He is not as careless (and intoxicated) as Juvi.

Unless you piss him off, then he'll drop you on your head with a devasting Brainbuster

[Rob]

Personally I love Juvi. Who has he ever had beefs with (even when he ran over Brad Armstrong, he didn't even have bad things to say!)?

[The Naitch]

What are the details behind the "hoot and toot" incident in the hotel lobby?

[Rob]

It could always be worse, He could of Ignorged the Finish and started doing Backflips off the Turnbuckles :p

And who is the most over wrestler and most talked about wrestling on the indy scene again? :p

What are the details behind the "hoot and toot" incident in the hotel lobby?

You mean when he dropped an X, flipped out, got naked and got arrested?

[Mister Sinister]

What are the details behind the "hoot and toot" incident in the hotel lobby?

He was drunk, like Rob said dropped X and got naked, and if I'm not mistaken, Tried to Wrestle Disco (Glenn Gilberti) Naked, or something, I just know Juvi was naked and had something to do about Disco

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I would have walked out of the company if I was told I had to drop a title to Vince Russo, David Arquette or Judy Bagwell. I'd job to a bottle of tequila anyday.

You're doing the awesome wrestling skills of Judy Bagwell a gross injustice there

[The Mackem]

OK what the hell does dropping an X mean?

[Rob]

Taking an ecstacy pill

[The Mackem]

I thought it was some wrestling term :o

[The Naitch]

yeah, dropping X can make you say stuff you wouldn't normally say if you were sober. Or even drunk. When you're just drunk, you'll be more aggressive, but you can still keep your mouth shut. You regret saying stuff a couple days later and say to yourself "What the hell was I thinking?"

[The Mackem]

It's not refered to as "X", where I'm from.

[The Naitch]

E or E-bombers where I'm from.

[Rob]

I wouldn't know really as I don't do drugs. :)

[Mr. Monday Morning]

You must be on something to dismiss the awesome technical prowess of Judy Bagwell :yes: