CM Punk tidbit *RAW Spoilers* [Archive]

Mr. Nerfect

01-20-2009, 03:16 AM

I've seen KingOfOldSchool around these parts talking about how CM Punk is apparently the second fastest guy to win the Triple Crown in WWE history, and I sort of just accepted it. But reading up on some news reports, CM Punk is being touted as the fastest guy to do it.

Kevin Nash won the World Tag Team Championship, Intercontinental Championship and WWE Championship in 227 days. CM Punk apparently did it in 203 days.

Good for Punk, I say.

thedamndest

01-20-2009, 03:23 AM

He was also one of the fastest guys to go from WWE champion to midcard.

Mr. Nerfect

01-20-2009, 03:27 AM

Yeah, because the WWE hates Punk. That's right.

Jeritron

01-20-2009, 03:31 AM

Matters very little. The quality of doing so is far more important. How long did it take Shawn Michaels, 10 years?

They're doing the right thing with him now, that's all I will say. I just wish they did what they're doing now sooner.

thedamndest

01-20-2009, 03:38 AM

Noid, I didn't say the E hates Punk. But this is where he should be right now. That fluke title win shouldn't have happened and made him look terrible and now they do have to build him back up if they expect him to be credible on that level legitimately. His match with Regal was excellent and right now as long as he is a fighting champion he could compete at that level in the next two years or so.

Mr. Nerfect

01-20-2009, 04:14 AM

Noid, I didn't say the E hates Punk. But this is where he should be right now. That fluke title win shouldn't have happened and made him look terrible and now they do have to build him back up if they expect him to be credible on that level legitimately. His match with Regal was excellent and right now as long as he is a fighting champion he could compete at that level in the next two years or so.

I didn't mean it to sound like I was lashing out at you. I just wish people would accept some things about Punk that they haven't. What he's done in the WWE so far is pretty impressive. Especially for a guy that is in the "doghouse" and being "kept down."

KingofOldSchool

01-20-2009, 08:40 AM

I've seen KingOfOldSchool around these parts talking about how CM Punk is apparently the second fastest guy to win the Triple Crown in WWE history, and I sort of just accepted it. But reading up on some news reports, CM Punk is being touted as the fastest guy to do it.

Kevin Nash won the World Tag Team Championship, Intercontinental Championship and WWE Championship in 227 days. CM Punk apparently did it in 203 days.

Good for Punk, I say.

No, Nash was the fastest one. Whoever the stupid monkey that sent in those stats didn't factor from the time they both debuted. They calculated based one the first of the three title reigns. Which in reality should be determined based on when they first entered the WWE.

Nash was the fastest and Punk was the second.

XL

01-20-2009, 08:47 AM

I'd go with KoOS' take on it.

Also, Nash's win will always be more legitimate to me cos of the number of titles available in WWE today. You've effectively got twice as many chances to do a "Triple Crown".

KingofOldSchool

01-20-2009, 09:06 AM

I'd go with KoOS' take on it.

Also, Nash's win will always be more legitimate to me cos of the number of titles available in WWE today. You've effectively got twice as many chances to do a "Triple Crown".

Meh.

The Triple Crown is only consisting of either the WWE or World title, the IC Title, and a Tag title.

Since Punk has only been on ECW and Raw, I think you can say this one is just as impressive. Especially considering how he did get the titles within 6 months of debuting on Raw, which is the show needed for the Triple Crown.

BigDaddyCool

01-20-2009, 09:34 AM

This makes me very angry. How dare he beat Nash's record. Ah well, at least Nash looked like a real champion. Does Nash still have the fastest title win? Cause punks was fast and cheap.

Legend Killer

01-20-2009, 10:59 AM

Here's the real question...Did Punk really lose the championship?

Dorkchop

01-20-2009, 11:15 AM

Punk's in the doghouse.

Legend Killer

01-20-2009, 11:18 AM

Punk's in the doghouse.

He better watch out then, cuz that's in Taker's yard.

Xero

01-20-2009, 12:41 PM

I seriously doubt this was intentional. I'm sure it's a case of short-sighted booking than anything else.

Jeritron

01-20-2009, 12:45 PM

Yea, I highly doubt the thought process behind it was to make him a triple crown. It sort of just happens or it doesn't. Undertaker and Brock aren't triple crown winners and they were pushed to the moon.

BigDaddyCool

01-20-2009, 01:26 PM

Everyone is a triple crown champion now a days. Jeff Hardy is, Matt Hardy could be (if the US and ECW titles count towards it), Jericho is.

Serious question, what are the titles you need to win to have the triple crown, or does any combnation of tag, midcard, and mainevent title work? And if so, where is the ECW title in this, because if it is a midcard title, CM Punk was already a triple crown winner.

Juan

01-20-2009, 01:36 PM

^ WWE/WHC, IC and Tag

Johnny Vegas

01-20-2009, 01:39 PM

I think Grand Slam is more of an honor that Triple Crown tbh. But seeing as the European title isn't available anymore, i guess those who are in that category will be the only ones.

BigDaddyCool

01-20-2009, 01:42 PM

Well, the triple crown has more history, but the grand slam has less people, and the names are more quality. Kane is a triple crown champion with his one day WWF title run. Plus Kane is an original defition triple crown champion. CM Punk is not.

Xero

01-20-2009, 02:01 PM

I don't see why the US title isn't counted in this, especially considering the WHC is. While it is slightly lower than the IC title, they're the same level title, and the US title holds a decent history.

I'd say, if we're restricting anything, it should be down to the WWE, IC and WWE Tag. Otherwise, every title except the two Women's championships and the Cruiser title should count. And yes, I'm counting the ECW championship in that, only at the IC level and not the World level.