View Full Version : Smackdown = "Minor Leagues"
spd10000
03-25-2004, 10:20 PM
Ya think Booker is right? Is Raw the better show? I kind of feel that way at times. Cena's awesome, I like Bradshaw's new gimmick, Mysterio can fly, and Kidman needs a push. But I think Raw's got that "cutting edge" (no pun intended) that Smackdown seems to be missing. I've been feeling this way for a while now, and would like to know if you all agree or not. Don't get me wrong, Raw's got its problems too, and maybe Smackdown isn't "the minor leagues," but I wonder if it's the "B show." And the "B" can stand for "bland."
Rock Bottom
03-25-2004, 10:22 PM
Oh, I most definitely agree.
Stickman
03-25-2004, 10:23 PM
I too agree.
Funky Fly
03-25-2004, 10:23 PM
I like how they're styled differently, but I hate how they seem intent on calling Smackdown the b-team show.
Smackdown has the better roster, IMO.
On an unrelated note, as much as I love the guy, Booker T is too big and sluggish for Smackdown. This is not gonna work. :nono:
spd10000
03-25-2004, 10:24 PM
For those who agree, how do you think they can make Smackdown better? More angles? Make it live instead of taped? Fire the Smackdown writers? Those are all a good start. (And yeah, Booker T belongs on Raw.)
Rock Bottom
03-25-2004, 10:28 PM
More angles would be good, and maybe a little bit more promo cutting. And hopefully Angle as the GM will liven it up a bit. Taped shows don't help either.
spd10000
03-25-2004, 10:30 PM
And hopefully Angle as the GM will liven it up a bit.
Actually, I know it's early, but I liked Heyman a hell of a lot better.
Kristanna Vola
03-25-2004, 10:32 PM
I still prefer SD, maybe because of the style of the wrestling, more fast paced with certain matches (Cruiserweights) and more wrestling than angles and storylines (unlike Raw)
I wish SD was live I also which they had at least two real established heels (besides the Big Show)
They might actually have that in the making with Booker T (really digged him tonight saying SD was the minor leagues) and I even enjoyed the new gimmick Bradshaw has going. :p
Kurt is alright as GM...still rather want him wrestling but his health is more important, so better to have him in some role, than in none.
Joe Kerr
03-25-2004, 10:33 PM
Smackdown as tazz or cole said when Renee dupree wrestled that Smackdown is cruiserweights..
Smackdown is deffinatly the minors unless your into the luchador scene as i am. RAW is deffinatly the power house show
spd10000
03-25-2004, 10:37 PM
Smackdown is deffinatly the minors unless your into the luchador scene as i am. RAW is deffinatly the power house show
I like Rey Mysterio (especially his entrance), and it's good that Spike Dudley is finally where he belongs (though he should have won tonight), but the rest of them are boring except for Billy Kidman. I always liked him, but I guess the writers don't. Why is he buried so much? I don't get it.
Boondock Saint
03-25-2004, 10:37 PM
Like Funky said, I like how they are styled differently but I don't like how SD is referred to as minor leagues. IMO, the wrestling aspect is better on SD than RAW. But the actual entertainment and intriguing angles seem to occur more frequently on RAW.
I watch both. I will continue to do so.
As for Booker T on SD, at first I thought it was a good move. And I did enjoy him tonight, and I like how they are using the "minor league" thing as the reason for his new attitude. I don't like how this could potentially hurt SD in the long run, making fans believe it is indeed a B show. When he wrestled I felt like he didn't quite fit into the style but I got into it. Overall, tonight, for me, he seemed like a RAW guy on SD.
Time will tell.
The CyNick
03-25-2004, 10:39 PM
Both shows have their good points. However, without beating a dead horse the main reason I like Smackdown over RAW (if I had to choose, because I watch both) is because it doesn't have HHH.
HHH makes such a huge difference to me. For example, no matter how awesome it is that Chris Benoit is the RAW Champion, I just cant get into it as much I thought I would. Why? Because I know its just a matter of time before HHH, who is far less deserving gets the title back and Benoit free falls down the card on RAW.
On Smackdown I'm totally amped about Eddie as champion because I never thought it would happen in the WWE for him, but more than that the sky is the limit for his title run. He could drop it in a couple of months to Kurt or he could easily carry it for a year. I just dont know, which makes it exciting to watch.
Aside from that I find SD to be a tighter show, there are fewer segments where I sit there, scratch my head and go "why?". Thats mainly due to the fact that they tend to focus on wrestling with the blue squad.
Dont get me wrong, RAW has its good points as well, but I find they try to be too cute with promos and backstage skits, and that usually hurts the quality of the show. And like I said they have the HHH-effect.
In terms of being live, hey if you can stay off the net between Wed morning and Thurs night, it would seem like SD is live. To me that means nothing, if anything SD is better for being taped because they can take out stuff that bombs.
spd10000
03-25-2004, 10:40 PM
I don't like how this could potentially hurt SD in the long run, making fans believe it is indeed a B show. When he wrestled I felt like he didn't quite fit into the style but I got into it. Overall, tonight, for me, he seemed like a RAW guy on SD.
I agree, but if they don't want Smackdown to seem like the "B show," then they should work a little harder (the writers, or whoever) to be sure that doesn't happen. I almost wonder if they're doing this purposely. Ya think maybe McMahon wants Raw to be better? That might be a stupid question.
Actually, wasn't it kind of the same in the WCW? Wasn't NITRO usually better than THUNDER? Maybe Thursday night wrestling will forever be blah.
spd10000
03-25-2004, 10:42 PM
Hey CyNick, you raised a great point about Triple H, and I feel the same way. But despite the "glass ceiling," I still find Raw to be the better show. I mean, I just don't pumped for Smackdown like I do for Raw every week.
The CyNick
03-25-2004, 10:52 PM
Hey CyNick, you raised a great point about Triple H, and I feel the same way. But despite the "glass ceiling," I still find Raw to be the better show. I mean, I just don't pumped for Smackdown like I do for Raw every week.
I dont know your tastes but it could also be because Monday night wrestling has been a tradition for over 10 years, and that was where the WCW-WWE war was fought, so it has that advantage of being the "wrestling night". Thursday night wrestling has less of a history, and even though its been around for 5 years it was never the battle ground for the wrestling war.
Or maybe you just like the RAW guys better, I dont know.
FreiHander
03-25-2004, 11:07 PM
Also is it just me or does it seem like the way Smackdown is designed the crowd is always into the show while RAW has moments where the crowd goes from cheering to "what?". I enjoy RAW for essentially the RKO occuring at any possible moment and Smackdown because as mentioned above the emphasis seems to be on wrestling (Even moreso after the additions made to the roster).
spd10000
03-25-2004, 11:10 PM
I dont know your tastes but it could also be because Monday night wrestling has been a tradition for over 10 years, and that was where the WCW-WWE war was fought, so it has that advantage of being the "wrestling night". Thursday night wrestling has less of a history, and even though its been around for 5 years it was never the battle ground for the wrestling war.
Or maybe you just like the RAW guys better, I dont know.
Hmmmm..... very interesting. I've always considered Mondays to be the night for wrestling (even back in the "Prime Time" days), so there's definitely that element of tradition. But if Thursday night wrestling could somehow be improved, I would no longer be partial to Mondays.
Also, I guess I do like the Raw guys better. Like I said I like John Cena, and Rey Mysterio, and Eddie and Kidman, but that's really about it. The Bashams suck, Angle should not be the GM (Heyman was much better), and a guy like Ultimo Dragon just does nothing for me. Chavo, Jamie Noble, The Big Show.... nah. (Oh, and I like the new Bradshaw, but he's not main event.)
That's why I was so excited when I heard about the lottery. I thought for sure they'd be changing things around, making the shows more balanced, but they obviously haven't. Kind of a disappointment.
Loose Cannon
03-25-2004, 11:14 PM
Hey CyNick, you raised a great point about Triple H, and I feel the same way. But despite the "glass ceiling," I still find Raw to be the better show. I mean, I just don't pumped for Smackdown like I do for Raw every week.
I agree with you. I mean, I know that Smackdown is the better show right now, but I just don't really care about it as much as I care for RAW. Like when I come home from school on Monday's I get excited that Raw's on that night. On Thursdays, I don't really as enthused about Smackdown. I guess it is the whole "tradition" thing.
spd10000
03-25-2004, 11:16 PM
I agree with you. I mean, I know that Smackdown is the better show right now, but I just don't really care about it as much as I care for RAW. Like when I come home from school on Monday's I get excited that Raw's on that night. On Thursdays, I don't really as enthused about Smackdown. I guess it is the whole "tradition" thing.
Yep. That's exactly how I feel. I start to think about Raw toward the end of each week, and when Monday comes I'm excited. But then it's like, "meh, Smackdown's on tonight." It's just not the same.
CYCLOPTERSAURUS
03-25-2004, 11:17 PM
There isn't one thing about Raw that I like better than Smackdown, barring the few exceptional wrestlers they have (Benoit, Jericho, Christian, Storm, etc.), but they rarely get the pushes they deserve. I had been only watching Smackdown since the Rumble (seeing one or two RAWs along the way), and started watching Raw again after Benoit got the title, but it just seems so stale in every aspect, and even Benoit couldn't make it appealing to me anymore. It's like the whole atmosphere is dull and tired or something, the booking is so generic IMO, and it never really captures my attention. It's like they aren't making any new stars or anything, just hanging on to old names from yesteryear (except for the (IMO) generic orton, and the awesome Christian). Maybe it's that the last few episodes have sucked? did I miss some exceptional shows or something?
However, with Bradshaw's push, Heyman leaving, Angle no longer wrestling, a stupid cowboy Undertaker and Big Show being two of the few remaining big names, and number of other issues may make Smackdown less enjoyable for me in the future, but as long as Eddie is headlining as champ, I'll be interested.
EDIT: Oh, and the cruiserweight division kicks ass. Why they traded Tajiri, especially as he was in a stable, I have no ****i</>ng idea.
Boondock Saint
03-25-2004, 11:17 PM
Wasn't Thunder on Wednesdays?
PureHatred
03-26-2004, 12:22 AM
SD is treated as the minor league show. But I like the SD style better, I like that there is more wrestling, and I like the cruiserweight scene. So I go out of my way to catch SD (not so much this week...NCAA's). I think showing it live would help it shake the "B" show feel, but with its time slot, the network its on, the FCC thing, and the fact that there couldn't be any run-over time...that's not happening. Oh...and I actually can listen to a match called by Taz/Cole whereas on raw, I mute the TV.
CBright7831
03-26-2004, 12:23 AM
It's wierd. SMackdown! has the most important belt in the company but RAW pushes the World Titlte like it is the most important belt in the company.
Corkscrewed
03-26-2004, 01:54 AM
I think both brands are equally important, and RAW is only better because they say so. I don't see it in the wrestling. If SD! needs improvement, however, it would be in pushing the tag division and definitely the CW division, which can really heat up TV.
DewMaster13
03-26-2004, 01:59 AM
Crusierwight Divison is like the hightlight of the show. You have these big name superstars and then The Lightweights steal the show I find degrating. Well Then again Mysterio should be in run for the U.s Title I think.
Kane Knight
03-26-2004, 02:04 AM
Smackdown is being treated like the minor league, or the second rate show. it's sad, because there's some awesome talent there, but it's also true.
Corkscrewed
03-26-2004, 02:04 AM
Watch WCW Cruiser matches. I've only seen anything approaching that three times on SD! since the division began. The CW DIVISION still has yet to be really pushed. They're obviously afraid they'll steal the show and make the upper carders look bad if they use their full potential..
Kane Knight
03-26-2004, 02:05 AM
The CW's are sorely underused.
DewMaster13
03-26-2004, 02:09 AM
Yea but, better than the real Top superstars.
Kane Knight
03-26-2004, 02:24 AM
Doesn't take much. A little charisma, a little talent, and you've got triple H whipped.
John la Rock
03-26-2004, 02:29 AM
Raw is way better than Raw IMO
Kane Knight
03-26-2004, 02:30 AM
Raw is better than Raw?
No way!
Raw rules Raw's ass!
Kane Knight
03-26-2004, 02:30 AM
Raw is way better than Raw IMO
Just teasin ya for your mistake. :)
den1982
03-26-2004, 03:13 AM
hire vince russo back mis spell his last name sorry
Ricky
03-26-2004, 06:13 AM
I think Raw deffinately feels more important, probably because as people have already said the tradition thing, we all know that it was the biggest weekly WWE show in the past and so it still feels like it now. When Smackdown came along it was "the other show" and has never been THE show of the WWE, so it doesn't feel as important.
Corkscrewed
03-26-2004, 06:32 AM
RAW: Established stars, more glitzy. Hot.
SD!: Youthful and athletic. The future. Cool. Very cool.
Stickman
03-26-2004, 12:10 PM
You know what I think would help Smackdown a bit or a lot? Putting Taz as a high mid card, low main event card on the show. Taz could just go and put on a clinic. I don't think it'll ever happen but I think it would be fricken awesome.
xXxClouderxXx
03-26-2004, 12:25 PM
If i was booker i would be just as pissed. i strongly agree with the wendys theif. i guess hhh just bitched and cried to steph untill he got his way
The Forgotten One
03-26-2004, 12:30 PM
IMO I think SD! isn't as good because it's on free t.v. Seriously all you would need is a good t.v. antenna and you can pick up UPN. Plus the production values of the network hurt the show also. In my area UPN is a grainy channnel and not that clear.
But SD! doesn't matter to me. I've never been into the SD! side of the roster. If I wanna see some good CW action I'll just order NWATNA on Wensday.
And SD! doesn't have Triple H so...:shifty:
Fryza
03-26-2004, 12:31 PM
I just flat out enjoy RAW to SmackDown!. Minus maybe someone like Eddie or Haas, SmackDown is utterly boring to me. I just find it to be every night's high point is a rap by Cena that have, IMO, gotten worse recently.
I dunno, I've really never enjoyed SD all that much, and the only reason I did watch it was for Haas, Rhyno, and O'Haire. I may click in now and again if Haas is wrestling, otherwise I'd just rather watch Velocity. It's like SmackDown Lite, and I prefer it to RAW and SmackDown!.
Kane Knight
03-26-2004, 01:59 PM
IMO I think SD! isn't as good because it's on free t.v. Seriously all you would need is a good t.v. antenna and you can pick up UPN. Plus the production values of the network hurt the show also. In my area UPN is a grainy channnel and not that clear.
That's far from typical.
parker
03-26-2004, 02:11 PM
Doesn't take much. A little charisma, a little talent, and you've got triple H whipped.
You forgot about the bad leg. Plus, I think saying a little talent might be too much. I won't even start on charisma, he has the charisma of a dying cow in my opinion.
Kane Knight
03-26-2004, 03:08 PM
You forgot about the bad leg. Plus, I think saying a little talent might be too much. I won't even start on charisma, he has the charisma of a dying cow in my opinion.Which is why they only need a little charisma. All they need to beat is a dying cow with minimal rassling skills.
PureHatred
03-26-2004, 03:22 PM
So take a wounded (can't really have a dying cow...gotta think long term) cow, have her limp around a ring & occasionally fall over and pin someone, and strap a belt around her neck and she'll draw better than Trips? Hmmmmm...it just might be crazy enough to work.
Also, considering that UPN being a free channel actually means that its available to more viewers ( which is why it tends to have better ratings than Raw ) so if the WWE looked at it that way, they would emphasize the show more, push the ratings up, and be able to demand more from their sponsors. That's just common sense speaking, of course.
parker
03-26-2004, 03:34 PM
So take a wounded (can't really have a dying cow...gotta think long term) cow, have her limp around a ring & occasionally fall over and pin someone, and strap a belt around her neck and she'll draw better than Trips? Hmmmmm...it just might be crazy enough to work.
Yes, it would be another over rated big wrestler for Vince to put a belt on.
tucsonspeed6
03-26-2004, 03:48 PM
Am I hearing this right? Should I stuff that corncobb up my butt a little more so I can hear this right? I think I have to restate my comment from earlier where I mentioned that if I had an anvil crush one of my nuts I'd at least be glad that I had one left. Well, if I won the lottery but it was only a million bucks, I wouldn't be pissed that it wasn't 100 million. For months now (the months that I've been on this board) and for the couple years before that, this website has fostered a belief that if all of the "main event hogging backstage politicians" were on Raw, Smackdown would be the Ace of Spades when it comes to wrestling. THe minute they do so, this damn topic comes up and everyone jumps on the bandwagon saying that despite its better wrestling, Raw is better. Make up your minds.
tucsonspeed6
03-26-2004, 04:03 PM
If i was booker i would be just as pissed. i strongly agree with the wendys theif. i guess hhh just bitched and cried to steph untill he got his way
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Dude, are you seriously like a mark or something? Do you honestly think that the draft was real? Like it just so happened that Cena walked up and pulled HHH's name out of the thing and he went to SD? At what point, then, did HHH say (off-camera, mind you) "Hey, I don't want to be on this show. Steph, I'll eat you out if you put me back on Raw with Evolution so they can help me cheat." Has it become clear to you yet that I'm mocking you, or should I pretend to be a character who is mocking you on TV so you'll believe it? I bet it'd be a shocker for you to see one of these documentaries that break kayfabe. It must be so damn confusing to see arch enemies wish each other luck before a match.
Basically, you started out with the general knowledge that HHH and Stephanie are married, HHH isn't much liked by many internet wrestling fans, and that Stephanie has some sort of authority behind the scenes. Then you mixed it with what you see on TV, and you assumed that HHH didn't want to be on SmackDown because he would be away from his Evolution buddies :roll: and so he went backstage and cried to his authoritative wife.
Truth be known to you now, son, HHH doesn't need Steph for crap to do anything. He probably offered to be drafted on the show so it'd make for a big shocker before the second commercial break, and because he felt more inclined to work on Raw, he probably had a discussion, long before the draft took place, with the writers to trade him back to Raw inbetween shows. ...No bitching. ...No crying ...Maybe a little eating Steph out, but I'm sure it was unrelated.
R3st!nP3ac3
03-26-2004, 05:31 PM
On an unrelated note, as much as I love the guy, Booker T is too big and sluggish for Smackdown. This is not gonna work. :nono:
Well theres a couple big guys.....Big show and rikishi....u think they should be on Raw
Stickman
03-26-2004, 05:32 PM
I do think Raw got worse as well with Rhyno and A Train. NO offence to Rhyno but he won't do dick or Raw, and offence to A Train, he just sucks.
The Forgotten One
03-26-2004, 05:58 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Dude, are you seriously like a mark or something? Do you honestly think that the draft was real? Like it just so happened that Cena walked up and pulled HHH's name out of the thing and he went to SD? At what point, then, did HHH say (off-camera, mind you) "Hey, I don't want to be on this show. Steph, I'll eat you out if you put me back on Raw with Evolution so they can help me cheat." Has it become clear to you yet that I'm mocking you, or should I pretend to be a character who is mocking you on TV so you'll believe it? I bet it'd be a shocker for you to see one of these documentaries that break kayfabe. It must be so damn confusing to see arch enemies wish each other luck before a match.
Basically, you started out with the general knowledge that HHH and Stephanie are married, HHH isn't much liked by many internet wrestling fans, and that Stephanie has some sort of authority behind the scenes. Then you mixed it with what you see on TV, and you assumed that HHH didn't want to be on SmackDown because he would be away from his Evolution buddies :roll: and so he went backstage and cried to his authoritative wife.
Truth be known to you now, son, HHH doesn't need Steph for crap to do anything. He probably offered to be drafted on the show so it'd make for a big shocker before the second commercial break, and because he felt more inclined to work on Raw, he probably had a discussion, long before the draft took place, with the writers to trade him back to Raw inbetween shows. ...No bitching. ...No crying ...Maybe a little eating Steph out, but I'm sure it was unrelated.
He's pretty much a mark but he's not that ****ing stupid.
Do you actually believe that HHH married Steph just because he loved her?
He knew how much pull he would get backstage just from marrying her.
tucsonspeed6
03-27-2004, 10:26 AM
Do you actually believe that HHH married Steph just because he loved her?
He knew how much pull he would get backstage just from marrying her.
Yeah, I understand that, but nowadays he doesn't necessarily need to talk to Steph to get anything done. I'd say he's got just as much influence over the company now (if not a little more) as she does, so there wouldn't be any need to go crying to her if he wanted something done.
The Forgotten One
03-27-2004, 10:35 AM
I agree.
rockyrocky
03-27-2004, 12:25 PM
The thing I find funny is why on Smackdown cole, tazz and that god awful josh matthews always push SD as the better show, especially when they hype the PPV's, eg. they put the holly v lesnar match from Royal Rumble over the last man standing match, when it was so obvious that it would come before it. And also after WMXX matthews gave detailed descriptions of every SD match on the card, and then just stuck the triple threat on the end, and that was the main event!
Kane Knight
03-27-2004, 04:39 PM
Yeah, why would they put the Lesnar/Holly mmatch over one which left more people disappointed?
Kane Knight
03-27-2004, 04:41 PM
While we're at it, how stupid of Smackdown announcers to hype their show as the better show...:roll:
notice how Raw announcers do the same thing? Or how Eric calls Raw the flagship show?
I wonder if it could have something to do with the fact that they're trying to play up that each show is better to the fans of that respective show...Especially when they were hyping an inter-promotional card with cross-promotion matches?
Naw. It's stupid. :roll:
John la Rock
03-27-2004, 04:44 PM
Raw will always be the number # 1 show because it's live.
A show being live and taped makes a big difference
Champion of Europa
03-27-2004, 04:46 PM
I don't get how people can call for more people to advance and become major players and yet whine that RAW is more heavily stacked with main eventers.
The lack of main eventers on Smackdown will lead to people advancing up the ranks, just like everyone has been whining to happen for years now.
Kane Knight
03-27-2004, 04:53 PM
Raw will always be the number # 1 show because it's live.
A show being live and taped makes a big difference
*waits for CyNick to address this again*
Kane Knight
03-27-2004, 04:54 PM
I don't get how people can call for more people to advance and become major players and yet whine that RAW is more heavily stacked with main eventers.
The lack of main eventers on Smackdown will lead to people advancing up the ranks, just like everyone has been whining to happen for years now.
Except there has to be some middle ground.
Champion of Europa
03-27-2004, 05:02 PM
Except there has to be some middle ground.
When more people are pushed to main event, more of the Velocity jobbers like Paul London or Ultimo Dragon might get a good spot in the cruiserweight division, making everyone happy.
Tornado
03-27-2004, 05:17 PM
<font color=#33ffff>Raw has a far more important feel to it, probably due to the fact that it's live.
IMO, Smackdown is the superior show. I don't have Sky Sports anymore, so I can only watch Smackdown and Bottom Line, but if I did have SS, I still think i'd give Raw a miss every Friday night.</font>
Jacko
03-27-2004, 08:14 PM
Depends on what takes your fancy.
Wrestling or a Soap Opera...
The CyNick
03-27-2004, 10:18 PM
*waits for CyNick to address this again*
Should I even bother?
I mean I can understand if the guy is new to the forum, but he has a lot of posts under his belt, so its obvious he either doesn't listen or he's just a moron. I'm not sure which it is.
Kane Knight
03-27-2004, 10:27 PM
Good point. And I'm not trying to slough all the work on ya, for the record, but you have argued the point far better and actually remeber examples to cite...
The CyNick
03-27-2004, 10:37 PM
Good point. And I'm not trying to slough all the work on ya, for the record, but you have argued the point far better and actually remeber examples to cite...
Yeah well I assume at this point most of the people who have been here for a little while know the deal with taped vs live.
Kane Knight
03-27-2004, 10:40 PM
One should hope so.
The Forgotten One
03-27-2004, 11:28 PM
Taped shows aren't better? :shifty:
Kane Knight
03-27-2004, 11:35 PM
Live shows aare OBVIOUSLY better.
:shifty:
And the fact that Raw has always dominated the ratings just goes to show that.
:lol:
xXxClouderxXx
03-31-2004, 07:38 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Dude, are you seriously like a mark or something? Do you honestly think that the draft was real? Like it just so happened that Cena walked up and pulled HHH's name out of the thing and he went to SD? At what point, then, did HHH say (off-camera, mind you) "Hey, I don't want to be on this show. Steph, I'll eat you out if you put me back on Raw with Evolution so they can help me cheat." Has it become clear to you yet that I'm mocking you, or should I pretend to be a character who is mocking you on TV so you'll believe it? I bet it'd be a shocker for you to see one of these documentaries that break kayfabe. It must be so damn confusing to see arch enemies wish each other luck before a match.
Basically, you started out with the general knowledge that HHH and Stephanie are married, HHH isn't much liked by many internet wrestling fans, and that Stephanie has some sort of authority behind the scenes. Then you mixed it with what you see on TV, and you assumed that HHH didn't want to be on SmackDown because he would be away from his Evolution buddies :roll: and so he went backstage and cried to his authoritative wife.
Truth be known to you now, son, HHH doesn't need Steph for crap to do anything. He probably offered to be drafted on the show so it'd make for a big shocker before the second commercial break, and because he felt more inclined to work on Raw, he probably had a discussion, long before the draft took place, with the writers to trade him back to Raw inbetween shows. ...No bitching. ...No crying ...Maybe a little eating Steph out, but I'm sure it was unrelated.
I really hate ppl like u... u take something someone says and turns it into something else and trys to make someone look like a dumbass by putting words into there mouth. i was just trying to make a joke.. soo shit man quit trying so hard to make someone look bad u bitch
spd10000
04-01-2004, 12:19 AM
Anyway, back to the topic... Based on the spoilers, this week's show will suck. Is there anything else on?
tucsonspeed6
04-01-2004, 10:57 AM
Depends on what takes your fancy.
Wrestling or a Soap Opera...
Soap Opera? I get exactly where you're going with this, and I have to object. Maybe Shawn Michaels trying to settle his score with HHH while still trying to get his title back is soap opera material, but OBVIOUSLY Stephanie trying to protect the little one legged boy from her evil father who has issues with his own self esteem that cause him to send endless armies of big guys to beat down the poor defenseless little one legged boy, and little Stephanie goes to his side and cries, "Please, daddy, the little one legged boy has so much heart. Please don't hurt him anymore!" is totally wrestling material. Its obvious that anyone who enjoys watching wrestling would find Smackdown a far superior show because it doesn't have any of that pointless backstage mellodrama that Raw has.
(This is the most recent storyline from SD! that I can recall, because after that point I gave up on the "wrestling oriented" show in favor of the "soap opera")
spd10000
04-01-2004, 04:23 PM
Even if Raw seems more like a "soap opera," it's still the better show. Watch Smackdown tonight, then you'll see what I mean. It's gonna suck.
Kane Knight
04-01-2004, 11:59 PM
Anyway, back to the topic... Based on the spoilers, this week's show will suck. Is there anything else on?
Hmmmm...Quality show. Dunno what you were one.
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