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Supreme Olajuwon
01-26-2009, 08:42 PM
Czech me out taking some initiative. Wooooo.

Umm anyway yeah Royal Rumble last night was sweeeeeeeeeet. Going to have the Orton/McMahon fallout tonight.

Miz and Morrison vs. Cryme Tyme for the tag titles

Qualifying matches for the Elimination Chamber as well

Londoner
01-26-2009, 08:43 PM
Was wondering why there was no Raw thread!

KYR
01-26-2009, 08:44 PM
Supreme with the intercept. :y:

Supreme Olajuwon
01-26-2009, 08:46 PM
Assuming the elimantion chamber will include JBL, HBK, and Jericho. I wonder if they'll try to give Rhodes or Dibiase a place in the chamber to make things interesting. Probably not since it's so early in the stable's progression.

Londoner
01-26-2009, 08:48 PM
Assuming the elimantion chamber will include JBL, HBK, and Jericho. I wonder if they'll try to give Rhodes or Dibiase a place in the chamber to make things interesting. Probably not since it's so early in the that stable's progression.

I highly doubt it.

Triple Naitch
01-26-2009, 08:53 PM
I would have titled it, Raw is Spoilin for a....eh KingOfOldSchool is better at these things

Corndad
01-26-2009, 08:58 PM
Evening fellas. The Road to Wrestlemania has begun. Hopefully the shows stay hot after a pretty decent PPV last night.

FourFifty
01-26-2009, 08:59 PM
Supreme with the intercept. :y:

Shut up Taker707




....uhhh... I meant to say "WHAT'S UP BITCHES!!!!!!!!!"

ron the dial
01-26-2009, 09:00 PM
i'm here for the party

FourFifty
01-26-2009, 09:00 PM
And for the record- Haystack Calhoun NEEDS to be in the Hall of Fame.

ClockShot
01-26-2009, 09:00 PM
Yeah. Let's get this Legacy party going!

Evening everyone.

Corndad
01-26-2009, 09:01 PM
Uber Heelness.

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 09:01 PM
Awesome video segment to open the show.

ClockShot
01-26-2009, 09:02 PM
Sick video.

Gotta go find me this later tonight.

KYR
01-26-2009, 09:02 PM
Shut up Taker707




....uhhh... I meant to say "WHAT'S UP BITCHES!!!!!!!!!"

Yes. I remember my first beer too.

And for the record- Haystack Calhoun NEEDS to be in the Hall of Fame.

Along with Bulldog Bob Brower, Killer Karl Kox and King Curtis.

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:02 PM
Orton's theme FTW!

Londoner
01-26-2009, 09:03 PM
Nice way to start the show!

Corndad
01-26-2009, 09:03 PM
Legacy Lawyers?

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:03 PM
HA! The Legacy has grew with 3 lawyers.

ron the dial
01-26-2009, 09:03 PM
damn that is a fine looking crew

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 09:03 PM
The suits attorneys for The Legacy?

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 09:04 PM
Legacy coming out to Orton's theme has to be the best entrance since Evolution.

RawRocks
01-26-2009, 09:05 PM
His name is Randy Orton.

RatedGSuperstar
01-26-2009, 09:05 PM
Orton needs a therapist? Maybe he does hear voices.

Triple Naitch
01-26-2009, 09:05 PM
J.R. mentioned last night that Orton's Rumble win guarantees him his Wrestlemania match no matter what. So I guess that is going to be his excuse from getting fired.

ClockShot
01-26-2009, 09:05 PM
ORTON IS NOT GUILTY!

FourFifty
01-26-2009, 09:05 PM
CAWdy looks like he's been pumping some iron, or is getting ready for a 30 day vacation.

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 09:06 PM
I'm a nerd for this, but when people say "the WWE" it irks the hell out of me.

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:06 PM
Fan yelled Herpes...LMFAO!

KYR
01-26-2009, 09:06 PM
Orton needs a therapist? Maybe he does hear voices.

I think Alan's around somewhere. :shifty:

JT
01-26-2009, 09:06 PM
Oh...this could be a momentum killer.

Corndad
01-26-2009, 09:06 PM
I E D?

Supreme Olajuwon
01-26-2009, 09:06 PM
With all the lawyers in suits now Legacy just looks like a white Nation of Domination

Clarence Mason 4ever

Londoner
01-26-2009, 09:06 PM
LOL What

ron the dial
01-26-2009, 09:06 PM
ied ridiculous

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 09:07 PM
I wish they hadn't gone the "I have a therapist" route with this. I wish he just fucking owned it with pride.

Triple Naitch
01-26-2009, 09:07 PM
Orton's got a Striker-esque bulge going on. No homo.

JT
01-26-2009, 09:07 PM
RANDY ORTON: This letter from my mom says I can beat the shit out of any billionaire I want!

ClockShot
01-26-2009, 09:07 PM
Oh dear.

Who in back cooked this up?

St. Jimmy
01-26-2009, 09:07 PM
wow. nice way to do this.

Lux
01-26-2009, 09:08 PM
I'm enjoying this Age Of Orton.

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:08 PM
Legacy dosen't have Flair's money....I don't blame em for suing.

RawRocks
01-26-2009, 09:08 PM
I am loving this

RatedGSuperstar
01-26-2009, 09:08 PM
This is better than Ryan Leaf reading an "apology" written by his agent.

St. Jimmy
01-26-2009, 09:09 PM
i love this stable.

Triple Naitch
01-26-2009, 09:09 PM
Ted DiBiase: Yeah. Wait. We're doing what?

Lux
01-26-2009, 09:09 PM
Love the drunk guy near the front row.

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:09 PM
Orton kills the legend of RAW.

Supreme Olajuwon
01-26-2009, 09:09 PM
Cody Rhodes looks like a can of Sunkist

easy with the spray on, homeboy

Johnny Vegas
01-26-2009, 09:10 PM
Damn, pretty interesting promo so far.

St. Jimmy
01-26-2009, 09:10 PM
haha, written statement apologies ftw.

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:10 PM
Orton: I have 1 more piece....One Fish Two Fish Red Fish Blue Fish.

Lux
01-26-2009, 09:10 PM
"SHUT UP!" :lol:

Corndad
01-26-2009, 09:10 PM
Although him just reading this makes it seem like he doesn't really mean it so could still go the uber heel way with this

ron the dial
01-26-2009, 09:10 PM
i love how he's reading all of this. beautiful.

JT
01-26-2009, 09:10 PM
This is better than Ryan Leaf reading an "apology" written by his agent.

You were saying?

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 09:10 PM
Ok scratch that, they've now just turned Randy into a calculating motherfucker in addition to a ruthless motherfucker.

ClockShot
01-26-2009, 09:10 PM
*sigh*

So much for a night of kicking ass and taking names.

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:12 PM
It will come...I guarntee it.

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:13 PM
Evil eyes...ooooooooo!

ClockShot
01-26-2009, 09:13 PM
She looks piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiissed.

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 09:14 PM
Yeah, Orton/Legacy have to destroy someone or something tonight. I'm ok with what just happened, because it shows intelligence, but he still has to be ruthless and still has to walk around like his shit doesn't stink.

St. Jimmy
01-26-2009, 09:14 PM
they knew of his acute case of IBS too. ask the purse.

RawRocks
01-26-2009, 09:14 PM
When has Stephanie not displayed evil eyes? :lol:

Triple Naitch
01-26-2009, 09:15 PM
Psyche rules

Corndad
01-26-2009, 09:16 PM
Brooklyn Brooklyn

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 09:16 PM
Yeah it does.

ClockShot
01-26-2009, 09:16 PM
Cryme Tyme finally winning tonight?

RawRocks
01-26-2009, 09:16 PM
Koko B. Ware Jr.

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 09:16 PM
Burn Notice as well.

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:16 PM
If Cryme Time wins the belts for once....I might actually mark out!

FourFifty
01-26-2009, 09:17 PM
I have a feeling that Cryme Tyme will "steal" this one. I want to see them as tag champs, but I don't want to see them take the titles from The In Crowd.

Triple Naitch
01-26-2009, 09:17 PM
Only if it means Morrison gets his singles push.

ClockShot
01-26-2009, 09:18 PM
What are going odds Hacksaw has something to do in this match?

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:18 PM
Rhodes and Dibiase should get into this somehow and say "The Legacy wants their titles back." Or something like that.

Londoner
01-26-2009, 09:19 PM
Only if it means Morrison gets his singles push.

Pefect timing to,with mania coming up.

Triple Naitch
01-26-2009, 09:19 PM
I really hope Hacksaw just goes away. Please. Am I the only one who thinks that?

RawRocks
01-26-2009, 09:20 PM
I really hope Hacksaw just goes away. Please. Am I the only one who thinks that?

no

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:20 PM
The old man wants his glory back...so meh.

Londoner
01-26-2009, 09:20 PM
Hacksaw sucks.

Lux
01-26-2009, 09:21 PM
It will be very interesting going into mania if Cryme Tyme takes the titles from The In Crowd

Lux
01-26-2009, 09:21 PM
Nope, guess not.

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:21 PM
Clean victory at least.

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 09:21 PM
THE IIIIIINNNNN CROWD!

Triple Naitch
01-26-2009, 09:22 PM
Ok so I was looking down at my homework for one problem and totally missed the entire match.

Londoner
01-26-2009, 09:22 PM
Ah well.

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:22 PM
This years NWO should be sweet.

RatedGSuperstar
01-26-2009, 09:22 PM
I kinda wish that match would've gone on for a little longer. Bummer.

At least the Abs won.

Supreme Olajuwon
01-26-2009, 09:23 PM
I miss immature heel Lawler.

Londoner
01-26-2009, 09:23 PM
I love the elimination chamber,especially as we get no way out for free here.

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 09:23 PM
Two chamber matches?

Corndad
01-26-2009, 09:23 PM
Mooo!

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:23 PM
JBL Promo...thank god.

Triple Naitch
01-26-2009, 09:23 PM
I love the Elimination Chamber but them having two matches as well as it being right before Wrestlemania kinda takes away it's luster.

ClockShot
01-26-2009, 09:24 PM
Bullshit.

Corndad
01-26-2009, 09:24 PM
so wait does that mean if he loses Cena won't be in the chamber to defend his own title?

RawRocks
01-26-2009, 09:24 PM
Burn Notice = Awesome

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 09:25 PM
Why is the world champion competing in a qualifying match for the Elimination Chamber when his title is on the line?

Supreme Olajuwon
01-26-2009, 09:25 PM
JBL better not start cutting promos like that. His promos are really the only redeeming quality he has.

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:25 PM
HBK will win and screw JBL at NWO....calling it now.

Londoner
01-26-2009, 09:25 PM
Two chamber matches?

Yeh,i was thinking 'wtf?' to.:mad:

FourFifty
01-26-2009, 09:26 PM
................uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh............................ Logic alart

Why would John Cena, the WHC, have to earn his spot in a title match?

RawRocks
01-26-2009, 09:26 PM
No Way Out is the Elimination Chamber PPV as it was last year

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:27 PM
I think it's that HBK has to win otherwise him and JBL are out....Cena dosen't matter since he's champ.

ClockShot
01-26-2009, 09:28 PM
Oh great. Cena's new movie trailer tonight. :roll:

Londoner
01-26-2009, 09:28 PM
I think it's that HBK has to win otherwise him and JBL are out....Cena dosen't matter since he's champ.

Yes, i think that's correct.

Corndad
01-26-2009, 09:28 PM
Im guessing he will be against jericho

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:29 PM
Koffee!

FourFifty
01-26-2009, 09:29 PM
JAMACIAN ME BOOKED IN A POINTLESS MATCH BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY KOFI IS READY FOR THE MAIN EVENT LIKE THAT!!!

Triple Naitch
01-26-2009, 09:29 PM
Kofi in the EC would be awesome. Kinda like having a monkey bouncing around in a....oh wait that sounds a little racist.

Corndad
01-26-2009, 09:29 PM
oh wow. Kane?

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:29 PM
Squash match...nevermind.

FourFifty
01-26-2009, 09:29 PM
Kane's gonna kill him.

ClockShot
01-26-2009, 09:29 PM
Kane's in already.

Supreme Olajuwon
01-26-2009, 09:29 PM
Woooo Kane might win a match tonight!

ron the dial
01-26-2009, 09:29 PM
now here's someone who will make your skin feel eerie

FourFifty
01-26-2009, 09:30 PM
The Swog or The Swag has a better shot at getting in that match than Kofi.

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:30 PM
If Koffee wins.....wait, nm, I must be high or somethin.

Londoner
01-26-2009, 09:31 PM
Can easily see Kofi being in this years Money in the bank match.

RawRocks
01-26-2009, 09:31 PM
Coffee Cup in an EC Q match.... dumb move WWE

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:32 PM
Wait a minute...you don't think.

Corndad
01-26-2009, 09:32 PM
KOFI??? REALLY?

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:32 PM
OMFG

FourFifty
01-26-2009, 09:32 PM
WHAT THE GOD DAMN FUCK!?!?!??!

Triple Naitch
01-26-2009, 09:32 PM
oh shit

ron the dial
01-26-2009, 09:32 PM
nice upset

Destor
01-26-2009, 09:32 PM
Great upset.

Heyman
01-26-2009, 09:32 PM
The beauty with Kane's character, is that no matter how many consecutive jobs he does....the guy can literally go out there a week later, and believably kick the living crap out of Cena or Orton for the title.....and the fans would buy it.

Supreme Olajuwon
01-26-2009, 09:32 PM
Bullshit. His shoulders were up, ref!

ClockShot
01-26-2009, 09:32 PM
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!?!

Londoner
01-26-2009, 09:32 PM
wtf!!!!!!!!!

Destor
01-26-2009, 09:32 PM
nice upset
OH YEAH?

FourFifty
01-26-2009, 09:32 PM
I MAY AS WELL TAKE A FUCKING CHEESE GRATER TO MY KANE MASK TATTOO!!!! THAT WAS BULLSHIT!!!!!!

RawRocks
01-26-2009, 09:32 PM
yet another dumb WWE move

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:33 PM
Alright...honest mark out right here right now.

ron the dial
01-26-2009, 09:33 PM
OH YEAH?
YEAH I SEEN IT

DaVe
01-26-2009, 09:33 PM
Wow... What?

Kane jobs again, and Kofi goes into the Elimination Chamber? Kane is always a threat, Kofi is just there for a beatdown.

RatedGSuperstar
01-26-2009, 09:34 PM
Just wondering because I wasn't paying attention -- any chance that it was the same ref that "screwed" Kane against Orton the other week? Is there an angle developing here or something?

DaVe
01-26-2009, 09:34 PM
Good question, G. Was thinking the same thing.

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:34 PM
Matt Hardy was gold last night.

Innovator
01-26-2009, 09:35 PM
AHAHAHAHA KANE LOST TO KOFI!

AHAHAHAHHA OLD YELLER

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 09:35 PM
The beauty with Kane's character, is that no matter how many consecutive jobs he does....the guy can literally go out there a week later, and believably kick the living crap out of Cena or Orton for the title.....and the fans would buy it.

Agreed, WWE isn't able to pull it off too often - but when they make a character and I mean truly make a character, that individual can do anything and still be credible. It's a beautiful thing.

Also, I'm kind of intrigued about Kofi in the Elimination Chamber. It'll be interesting to see what spots he's able to do.

Evil Vito
01-26-2009, 09:35 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Awesome upset right there...I wanna see Kofi do some crazy shit off the chamber walls or something.</font>

ClockShot
01-26-2009, 09:35 PM
The International trailer > 12 Rounds trailer.

Volare
01-26-2009, 09:37 PM
The new Jason should be good.

Supreme Olajuwon
01-26-2009, 09:37 PM
We know neither Kofi nor Kane is going to win, so I guess Kofi will be the more entertaining choice.

Triple Naitch
01-26-2009, 09:39 PM
Jericho: So I saw The Wrestler last night and it sucked

Corndad
01-26-2009, 09:39 PM
Oh sweet. Here starts Mickey/Jericho.

Supreme Olajuwon
01-26-2009, 09:39 PM
Jericho's goatee makes him look like a character from the evil universe episode of South Park

DaVe
01-26-2009, 09:39 PM
So here we are, then.

ron the dial
01-26-2009, 09:39 PM
jericho vs. rourke here we go

Londoner
01-26-2009, 09:39 PM
HAHAHAHA

FourFifty
01-26-2009, 09:40 PM
I'm a little shocked that they showed that....

Londoner
01-26-2009, 09:41 PM
ooooooooooh interesting

Corndad
01-26-2009, 09:41 PM
oh god i hope they allow Flair to be in his corner.

ron the dial
01-26-2009, 09:41 PM
this is such a smart move by wwe just to try and capitalize off of the hype surrounding this movie

James Steele
01-26-2009, 09:41 PM
Why the fuck do you waste Jericho's talent on this?

ClockShot
01-26-2009, 09:41 PM
Stay away, Mickey. Stay very far away. Don't fuck this up now.

FourFifty
01-26-2009, 09:42 PM
Why the fuck do you waste Jericho's talent on this?

God hates us?

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 09:42 PM
Jericho's goatee makes him look like a character from the evil universe episode of South Park

No, it's the Tony Stark goatee damn it.

Fabien Barthez
01-26-2009, 09:42 PM
Anyone watching online? can't find a stream anywhere.

ClockShot
01-26-2009, 09:44 PM
POOR MAN'S WRESTLEMANIA!

NEXT!

RatedGSuperstar
01-26-2009, 09:44 PM
Fabien, I've been hopping between channels on Justin.tv looking for one that's not laggy from all the traffic, too. Here's the one I'm on now: http://www.justin.tv/kensmarc

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 09:44 PM
Why the fuck do you waste Jericho's talent on this?

Because with the exception of Shawn Michaels, Jericho is one of maybe 3 guys who could carry Mickey to not only a decent set of promos but a watchable match? And it's a huge money maker/PR rush for WWE?

DaVe
01-26-2009, 09:45 PM
If you want live feeds for every wrasslin' show around: http://wrestling-fever.blogspot.com/

Go to it just before the show and you'll get your link.

Londoner
01-26-2009, 09:45 PM
Because with the exception of Shawn Michaels, Jericho is one of maybe 3 guys who could carry Mickey to not only a decent set of promos but a watchable match? And it's a huge money maker/PR rush for WWE?

:y:

FourFifty
01-26-2009, 09:46 PM
POOR MAN'S WRESTLEMANIA!

NEXT!

AGAIN!

Corndad
01-26-2009, 09:46 PM
Super Bowl baby.

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 09:47 PM
In fact, not only is it not a waste of Jericho's talent, it is a testament and compliment to his abilities that WWE would put him in that situation. And frankly, he's incredibly lucky to be there. He's going to become much more of a house hold name as result.

Londoner
01-26-2009, 09:48 PM
In fact, not only is it not a waste of Jericho's talent, it is a testament and compliment to his abilities that WWE would put him in that situation. And frankly, he's incredibly lucky to be there. He's going to become much more of a house hold name as result.

:y::y::yes:

James Steele
01-26-2009, 09:49 PM
I just had an idea:

HBK should lay down for Cena and screw JBL. It is then announced that Stephanie put HBK in the elimination chamber under the condition that if he wins the match, the McMahons will pay him a shitload of money. HBK and Randy Orton compete at WrestleMania. The McMahons agree to double HBK's "WrestleMania payday" if he takes out Randy Orton. The match is a no-dq match for the World Heavyweight Championship.

Londoner
01-26-2009, 09:49 PM
No classic HBK entrance?Meh.

Hanso Amore
01-26-2009, 09:50 PM
Wasnt this on Raw 2 weeks ago? Come on! book it different.

Supreme Olajuwon
01-26-2009, 09:50 PM
Hmm, so this isn't the main event? Intriguing

Corndad
01-26-2009, 09:50 PM
That double Sweet Chin Music last night was sweet.

Johnny Vegas
01-26-2009, 09:50 PM
Very true HBM2k. But here comes Clark Kent

FourFifty
01-26-2009, 09:51 PM
Cena needs to come out with Marty Jannety to even the odds.

RatedGSuperstar
01-26-2009, 09:51 PM
I think they should fuse the two entrance themes together, like they did with Undertaker and Kane back in 2001. Have the Sensational Sherri moaning start, only to cut into JBL's music...

"AH! AAH! AAAH! .....MOOOOOOO!"

James Steele
01-26-2009, 09:51 PM
For fuck sake, WWE could make money off of Rourke without having him in a fucking match. Have him as a ref or something. Is Big Show a bigger name than ever because of facing Mayweather last year...or do people still not really care?

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 09:52 PM
No classic HBK entrance?Meh.

Actually I think it was a subtle and smart move. It takes away some of Shawn's pops, putting Cena over. And HBK is competing for his employer in this match, not himself. So why would JBL allow Michaels to put himself over?

Hanso Amore
01-26-2009, 09:53 PM
Here is the thing...

Flair will be in Rourkes corner and cheat to help him win, because he would need to go over in WM fashion, and he cant beata main eventer clean.

Supreme Olajuwon
01-26-2009, 09:54 PM
For fuck sake, WWE could make money off of Rourke without having him in a fucking match. Have him as a ref or something. Is Big Show a bigger name than ever because of facing Mayweather last year...or do people still not really care?
You're comparing boxing to Hollywood. Nobody fucking cares about boxing.

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 09:54 PM
For fuck sake, WWE could make money off of Rourke without having him in a fucking match. Have him as a ref or something. Is Big Show a bigger name than ever because of facing Mayweather last year...or do people still not really care?

He is a bigger name actually. Big Show would have never been a conversational topic on ESPN or within a lot of other networks if it hadn't been for that match. I remember being at work and people who loathe wrestling were talking about the Big Show. Rather a match falters in the wrestling circle or not, has no dictation on what level of a mainstream success it was.

And Mickey is bigger than Mayweather, and Jericho is a better choice than show so the results will be even more successful in terms of mainstream coverage.

Johnny Vegas
01-26-2009, 09:55 PM
Cena needs to come out with Marty Jannety to even the odds.

lol

James Steele
01-26-2009, 09:55 PM
Is Bobby Lashley the biggest thing ever after being loved by Donald Trump? No.

I also wonder how much help RoH is getting from WWE supporting this movie now.

FourFifty
01-26-2009, 09:56 PM
Mayweather vs The Big Show as a better match than I thought it would be.
Much better.

ron the dial
01-26-2009, 09:56 PM
i think you're missing the part where rourke will probably be able to work a pretty solid match, while the people you are naming cannot/did not.

James Steele
01-26-2009, 09:57 PM
He is a bigger name actually. Big Show would have never been a conversational topic on ESPN or within a lot of other networks if it hadn't been for that match. I remember being at work and people who loathe wrestling were talking about the Big Show. Rather a match falters in the wrestling circle or not, has no dictation on what level of a mainstream success it was.

And Mickey is bigger than Mayweather, and Jericho is a better choice than show so the results will be even more successful in terms of mainstream coverage.


How many of them actually plopped down 60 bucks for WrestleMania? Probably the same number that put down 60 bucks for Big Show vs Akebono at WrestleMania 21.

Londoner
01-26-2009, 09:57 PM
Wait,they've missed out most of the match cause of adverts?

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 09:58 PM
Is Bobby Lashley the biggest thing ever after being loved by Donald Trump? No.

I also wonder how much help RoH is getting from WWE supporting this movie now.

No, he's not. But you can't argue that he was a topic of mainstream entertainment during the angle. The only reason Lashley isn't bigger is because he didn't have the ability to carry that position. That's why WWE went with Jericho this time. He has the potential and charisma to be marketed towards that demographic.

Again, just because it's not successful in the wrestling circle does not mean it wasn't a successful business venture.

Triple Naitch
01-26-2009, 09:59 PM
Tipsters standings posted

Hanso Amore
01-26-2009, 09:59 PM
How come HBK still has the fake Chaps tie strings in the back of his tights, when they are all one piece?

Same with the belt buckle.

Hanso Amore
01-26-2009, 10:00 PM
When did he ditch the old heart tights anyways, and did they ever say why?

Volare
01-26-2009, 10:00 PM
Who the hell knows.

Johnny Vegas
01-26-2009, 10:00 PM
LOL MICHAEL COLE WILL NOT CALL THAT MOVE WHAT IT IS

Hanso Amore
01-26-2009, 10:00 PM
Do you think it is odd to see the crossface?

HHH and HBK are the only 2 to use it.

Volare
01-26-2009, 10:00 PM
Cena will never tap.

Supreme Olajuwon
01-26-2009, 10:00 PM
Why doesn't JBL just go punch HBK and get Cena DQ'ed

Triple Naitch
01-26-2009, 10:01 PM
Interesting fact about assless chaps. All chaps are assless

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 10:01 PM
How many of them actually plopped down 60 bucks for WrestleMania? Probably the same number that put down 60 bucks for Big Show vs Akebono at WrestleMania 21.

You're arguing semantics. If one person purchased the show that wouldn't have before, it was successful. If WWE was on more mainstream television channels due to FREE publicity, it was successful. If one more person went to WWE.com to read about it, was raided by the PAID advertisement that WWE has on their site, it was successful.

This sort of stuff is about the monotony gain, and that happens when you use celebrity. This will be more successful because WWE was intellegent with their selection of what worker to put against Mickey. He has the cross-over appeal that Show doesn't, that Bam Bam didn't, and Bobby Lashley never could.

James Steele
01-26-2009, 10:01 PM
If it doesn't get people to put down money for WrestleMania, then all the free publicity means jack-shit.

I do not know any non-wrestling fan who bought the past few WrestleManias because of the celebrity gimmicks. Maybe if WrestleMania wasn't 60 bucks, but water cooler talk =/= money.

Corndad
01-26-2009, 10:02 PM
Why doesn't JBL just go punch HBK and get Cena DQ'ed

I was thinking the exact same thing.

Volare
01-26-2009, 10:02 PM
Wow...I was waiting for JBL to do something there.

Innovator
01-26-2009, 10:03 PM
How come HBK still has the fake Chaps tie strings in the back of his tights, when they are all one piece?

Same with the belt buckle.
THEY'RE STILL REAL TO HIM DAMMIT

Tb1
01-26-2009, 10:03 PM
This is Narc. Watching Raw at Tb1's house. So, how does this Jericho/Rourke thing makes sense? I mean from a storyline perspective. Rourke just comes out and says he's gonna Ram Jam Jericho with no provocation or anything? Think Rourke wasn't supposed to say anything yet but WWE just went with it anyway?

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 10:03 PM
Why doesn't JBL just go punch HBK and get Cena DQ'ed

He will, or he'll clothesline him rather. That'll end the match.

James Steele
01-26-2009, 10:03 PM
RoH invasion coming soon???

FourFifty
01-26-2009, 10:04 PM
I have to give the devil his due- Cena, who is over booked and shoved down our pikes on a weekly basis, brings out the best in many wrestlers.

James Steele
01-26-2009, 10:04 PM
You have to be at your best to carry his ass to a good match that isn't a street fight clusterfuck.

Londoner
01-26-2009, 10:05 PM
1..2..3..!

Volare
01-26-2009, 10:05 PM
JBL screwed JBL

Corndad
01-26-2009, 10:05 PM
HAHA Kofi is in and JBL isn't. wow.

ClockShot
01-26-2009, 10:05 PM
Well now.

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 10:06 PM
If it doesn't get people to put down money for WrestleMania, then all the free publicity means jack-shit.

I do not know any non-wrestling fan who bought the past few WrestleManias because of the celebrity gimmicks. Maybe if WrestleMania wasn't 60 bucks, but water cooler talk =/= money.

Are you really convinced that because you don't know people who did it, it didn't happen? And yes, WrestleMania buyrates are the ultimate goal but frankly the money they probably made in advertising was worth it alone. Success is not measured by a single indicator. You don't bank on one thing happening, you bank on a number of things happening. Advertising, increased web traffic, more name recognition, etc are all some of those goals.

Volare
01-26-2009, 10:06 PM
JBL will find a way...he always does.

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 10:06 PM
...well that's surprising...

Johnny Vegas
01-26-2009, 10:06 PM
UH OH, BOSS MAN AINT HAPPY

RatedGSuperstar
01-26-2009, 10:07 PM
Thank the baby Jesus...JBL out of the title picture.

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 10:07 PM
I'm guessing Shawn will get an opportunity to earn his own spot in the Chamber match, he'll get in, and JBL will make him hand it over.

ClockShot
01-26-2009, 10:07 PM
Yeah Vince, I was about to say the same thing.

Volare
01-26-2009, 10:07 PM
I can watch that punt over and over again.

James Steele
01-26-2009, 10:07 PM
I am sure some people did, but not enough to justify wasting major TV time on something that won't matter in the long term.

Supreme Olajuwon
01-26-2009, 10:09 PM
Steph's gonna get punted

Corndad
01-26-2009, 10:09 PM
This is turning out to be the night of the short promo.

Johnny Vegas
01-26-2009, 10:09 PM
lol im actually excited for the end of RAW

ClockShot
01-26-2009, 10:11 PM
I hope Shane is stashed away on the property somewhere.

Johnny Vegas
01-26-2009, 10:11 PM
Steph's gonna get punted

..omg..

lol that omg looks like a hand pointing

Londoner
01-26-2009, 10:11 PM
lol im actually excited for the end of RAW

Same here.

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 10:11 PM
I am sure some people did, but not enough to justify wasting major TV time on something that won't matter in the long term.

It wasn't wasting television time, the core audience as a whole that watches WWE continued to watch and would have regardless what was on. If it wasn't the celeb bullshit, it would have been more diva search bullshit and we would have continued to watch.

It isn't about what the wrestling circle wants to see, Vince has that audiance, this is about gaining a new audience; even if it's just short term but hopeful converting some into a long term viewership.

Supreme Olajuwon
01-26-2009, 10:11 PM
lol Afro Samurai

looks great

FourFifty
01-26-2009, 10:11 PM
Steph's gonna get punted

I'd punt* her.






*And by punt, I mean make sweet, sweet love to her mouth.

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 10:12 PM
Steph's gonna get punted

If that happened, or even if Shane came out to save Stephanie and got he got punted, I would mark out huge!

Supreme Olajuwon
01-26-2009, 10:13 PM
I'd punt* her.






*And by punt, I mean make sweet, sweet love to her mouth.

Good cause her vag is probably HUGE

Corndad
01-26-2009, 10:13 PM
Loved Beth using Melina's own foot last night to kick her own head lol

Londoner
01-26-2009, 10:14 PM
Kelly Kellys theme does my head in.

ClockShot
01-26-2009, 10:15 PM
Jillian?

They get rid of Rosa already or something?

Supreme Olajuwon
01-26-2009, 10:15 PM
SANTINOOOOOOOOO

Corndad
01-26-2009, 10:15 PM
You look great JR HAHAHAHAHA

FourFifty
01-26-2009, 10:16 PM
:lol: Santino is gold.

Johnny Vegas
01-26-2009, 10:16 PM
lol santino

RatedGSuperstar
01-26-2009, 10:16 PM
Santino on commentary. Suddenly this match isn't a piss break.

Londoner
01-26-2009, 10:16 PM
1.9 seconds haha

Corndad
01-26-2009, 10:16 PM
1.9 Seconds lol Amazing.

Londoner
01-26-2009, 10:17 PM
Santino on commentary. Suddenly this match isn't a piss break.

Yup.

HeartBreakMan2k
01-26-2009, 10:17 PM
Kelly Kelly is continuing to get much, much better. Also I would do very, very dirty things to her.

Johnny Vegas
01-26-2009, 10:18 PM
LOL SANTINO

"i can't..uh...say anything about that".

ron the dial
01-26-2009, 10:18 PM
actually being entertained by this match so far

Londoner
01-26-2009, 10:18 PM
'she fell' :D

ron the dial
01-26-2009, 10:18 PM
that's a pretty sick move

RatedGSuperstar
01-26-2009, 10:19 PM
"...she just fell. She's clumsy. Gotta go!" :lol: