Matt Hardy to SmackDown is all well and good, but... [Archive]

Exyle

01-28-2009, 11:32 AM

Why would Teddy Long just let him leave? That's the biggest "name" on your brand; surely, you could get a nice trade from SD. This would be like a sports team letting their star player switch to another team while he's still under contract, and expecting nothing in return.

And there are plenty of names on that roster who could benefit from a healthy face push on ECW.

Hurricane Helms could be a great face and fresh feud for Swagger.
R-Truth is pretty stagnant; switch him and let him get over.
Carlito as ECW's top face would be an interesting change; just need to get the tag belts off of him.

So, anyway. Just seems silly to me. I guess this is WWE logic, though.

Anybody Thrilla

01-28-2009, 11:37 AM

I was thinking the same thing. Pretty ridiculous to just let him go without a trade. It's like Theddy wants ECW to suck.

Nark Order

01-28-2009, 11:40 AM

Xero

01-28-2009, 11:40 AM

It's clearly a personal favor dating back to the time the Hardy Boyz almost lost the titles but Teddy gave them a fast count for the win.

Anybody Thrilla

01-28-2009, 11:41 AM

He follows up the announcement of Matt Hardy's departure with an announcement that we will be seeing The Boogeyman in action TONIGHT! What a kick in the junk that was.

Fox

01-28-2009, 11:41 AM

Teddy is just a good guy like that I guess. In kayfabe, Matt came to him either before or after the Royal Rumble (probably before) and explained to him how badly he needed to be on the same brand as his brother, saying that he was unhappy in ECW and needed to change or continue to be depressed about his place in the company, and Teddy gave it to him.

Or Matt did some sex favors for Edge. Not gay sex favors - more like Edge convincing Vickie to blind-fold her during sex, and Edge slipped out of the room while Matt took his place on the job (aka "the old switcheroo"). Edge then convinces Vickie to sign Matt for helping him win the WWE Title.

Xero

01-28-2009, 11:43 AM

Teddy is just a good guy like that I guess. In kayfabe, Matt came to him either before or after the Royal Rumble (probably before) and explained to him how badly he needed to be on the same brand as his brother, saying that he was unhappy in ECW and needed to change or continue to be depressed about his place in the company, and Teddy gave it to him.

But if it was before the Rumble, why would Teddy allow Matt to switch brands when he could win the ECW title and take it with him?

That's an oversight Vince could never make.

Fox

01-28-2009, 11:48 AM

Matt agreed to throw the match to help Teddy build a new top star on the show prior to his leaving. Teddy, being the sly shyster that he is, agreed.

Xero

01-28-2009, 11:48 AM

Still, he could have screwed Teddy. In fact, he should have, given his turn.

Fox

01-28-2009, 11:52 AM

Maybe Teddy didn't sign the contract until after he tossed the match?

Xero

01-28-2009, 11:53 AM

Maybe we're over-thinking this and this is just a case of WWE logic?

Mr. Nerfect

01-28-2009, 12:15 PM

They could ave at least pulled an angle where Teddy was so disgusted with the actions of Matt that he granted him his elease but yeah, I agree. Seemed a bit wierd to just let your MVP go without any compensation.

Funny you should say that. Reading over the ECW report, I thought it would have been cool if Teddy had been so disgusted with Matt, that he no longer wanted him on his brand, so he traded him to Vickie Guerrero. Teddy then introduces us to ECW's newest Superstar...MVP.

Now that he is meant to be a face, MVP would do well on ECW, and could climb the ranks there overnight. It's fucking ECW, for crying out loud.

The only hole in the story is that Teddy and MVP haven't exactly been buddies - but MVP could come out, and thank Theodore Long for signing him onto his original contract, and even though they don't see eye-to-eye, he is just happy to be off the Vickie and Edge show. MVP can then promise Teddy Long he will earn back the figures he was making on SmackDown!.

Kane Knight

01-28-2009, 12:18 PM

ECW isn't a real brand. That's where the sense comes in.

BigDaddyCool

01-28-2009, 12:18 PM

They way I count it, ECW kinda only has 8 wrestlers now, and one fo them is injured. BTW, that list would be Boogen, DJ Gaberiel, Even Borne, Finlay, Swagger, Mark Henry, Paul Burchill, and Tommy Dreamer. I don't count Miz and Morrison because they spend more time on Raw, and Chavo spends a lot of time on Smackdown. So getting rid of Matt Hardy is really dumb.

01-28-2009, 01:52 PM

Looking at the roster on WWE.com, the two biggest draws in the brand right now are Finley and Mark Henry, and neither one is making me stay home to watch them on Tuesday Nights. Miz and Morrison are probably the biggest names on the roster, but they compete more on RAW then ECW these days, so it's not even point to mention they are there.

I also agree that a trade would have been a smart move, but maybe the company isn't seeing much of a future for ECW anymore.

parkmania

01-28-2009, 07:13 PM

When's the contract with Sci-Fi up this time?

Kane Knight

01-28-2009, 07:56 PM

When's the contract with Sci-Fi up this time?

Does it matter? They will be pressured into signing WWE again.

thedamndest

01-28-2009, 08:11 PM

DID YOU KNOW ECW IS THE HIGHEST RATED PROGRAM ON THE HOME SHOPPING NETWORK FOR 29 WEEKS IN A ROW!

Jeritron

01-28-2009, 08:13 PM

DID YOU KNOW ECW IS THE HIGHEST RATED PROGRAM ON THE HOME SHOPPING NETWORK FOR 29 WEEKS IN A ROW!

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OH MY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!

*EC DUB, EC DUB, EC DUB*

Jeritron

01-28-2009, 08:15 PM

a Don West joke also would have been acceptable here

thedamndest

01-28-2009, 08:20 PM

Jeritron

01-28-2009, 08:21 PM

He made the mistake of over-selling the knife shot, and as a result under-sold his quota.

Jeritron

01-28-2009, 08:21 PM

Nice run in at the end though. That guy handled it much better than Orton when HHH tore his quad.

Theo Dious

01-28-2009, 08:22 PM

Has anybody considered that maybe T-Lo is thinking that he doesn't want some so-called main-eventer on his brand that loses to JACK SWAGGER?

Jeritron

01-28-2009, 08:23 PM

Jeritron

01-28-2009, 08:26 PM

ROOKIES!

thedamndest

01-28-2009, 08:28 PM

The guy on the left is inducting Austin.

thedamndest

01-28-2009, 08:28 PM

FACTORY SET!

Jeritron

01-28-2009, 08:30 PM

I'm pretty sure I was watching it one night and they had Goldberg on the show

thedamndest

01-28-2009, 08:31 PM

I'm going to walk into a memorabilia shop and tell the guy I have a 1987 Fleer FACTORY SET.

Jeritron

01-28-2009, 08:31 PM

thedamndest

01-28-2009, 08:31 PM

lol 1994 Michael Jordan rookie card.

Jeritron

01-28-2009, 08:32 PM

That beanie baby came out of retirement faster than Terry Funk.

That beanie baby covers everything! He's never been pinned!

Jeritron

01-28-2009, 08:33 PM

"You have Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sinbad duking it out trying to get the last one!"

Glory. BOUND FOR GLORY!

thedamndest

01-28-2009, 08:35 PM

Grown men with Beanie Babies are probably like the only men Trekkies could beat up.

Jeritron

01-28-2009, 08:37 PM

Are beanie babies worth anything now? In this economy they could be safer than gold.

Xero

01-28-2009, 08:37 PM

He was looking on the local internets!

Theo Dious

01-28-2009, 08:37 PM

Grown men with Beanie Babies are probably like the only men Trekkies could beat up.

I stand firm in my belief that your average Trekkie could beat up your average anime freak.

Jeritron

01-28-2009, 08:38 PM

I love that they brought up rookie cards during the beanie babies pitch. All roads lead to rookie cards in those guys minds.

thedamndest

01-28-2009, 08:39 PM

Oh yeah. Those guys were smarks before there were smarks.

Jeritron

01-28-2009, 08:39 PM

lol garcia bear

thedamndest

01-28-2009, 08:40 PM

But with real sports :shifty:

Xero

01-28-2009, 08:40 PM

Jeritron

01-28-2009, 08:42 PM

I just looked up how much that shits worth. Nothing. I hope the people who were paying hundreds for those things sold quickly

thedamndest

01-28-2009, 08:43 PM

I stand firm in my belief that your average Trekkie could beat up your average anime freak.

Guys who collect baseball cards>Star Wars Fans>Trekkies>beanie baby guys>anime freaks

thedamndest

01-28-2009, 08:44 PM

I just looked up how much that shits worth. Nothing. I hope the people who were paying hundreds for those things sold quickly

We will all look like fools when the dollar becomes worthless and Ty uses its influence to make the Bean the new currency.

Theo Dious

01-28-2009, 08:48 PM

Guys who collect baseball cards>Star Wars Fans>Trekkies>beanie baby guys>anime freaks

Thank you for getting the Star Wars/Star Trek hierarchy correct.

Jeritron

01-28-2009, 09:23 PM

To be honest, at this stage in the game, I think being a Star Wars fan is far more acceptable than collecting baseball cards.
Baseball cards, as far as I know, have gone to shit as an industry. Most people from the past few generations, or males at least, are star wars fans on some level.
If you mean die-hard convention types, then yea sure.

Kane Knight

01-29-2009, 09:57 AM

Guys who collect baseball cards>Star Wars Fans>Trekkies>beanie baby guys>anime freaks
>Pro Wrestling fans.

Actually, we still probably outrank anime freaks. Except so many of the posters here seem to be them.

Jeritron

01-29-2009, 04:25 PM

>Pro Wrestling fans.

Actually, we still probably outrank anime freaks. Except so many of the posters here seem to be them.

Didnt you use to have an anime avatar?

Kane Knight

01-29-2009, 04:32 PM

I'm hard pressed to say a single frame of a cartoon constitutes an anime freak.

Jeritron

01-29-2009, 04:37 PM

Just asking

Jeritron

01-29-2009, 04:37 PM

Don't you have a prized ninja sword too?

thedamndest

01-29-2009, 04:37 PM

>Pro Wrestling fans.

Actually, we still probably outrank anime freaks. Except so many of the posters here seem to be them.

Being cross-nerded in more than two of these things probably puts you at the very bottom of the barrel with a significant gap on the ladder to the next highest spot. Your muscles would have atrophied to the point where there is no contest you could win that involved anything beyond simple motor functions of the dominant hand from years of furry wanking after furious bouts of Spellfire.

You might have a latent advantage in that you would probably have hideously unkempt nails, having given up on society long ago; however, this may be countered by the fact that you may also gnaw on your nails, thus defeating any advantage.

Jeritron

01-29-2009, 04:38 PM

In high school some kid tried to show me an anime and said it was like the Godfather of animes. I fell asleep.
Personally I hate it, but I got not bones against people who like it. Whatever floats your boat I say.

Jeritron

01-29-2009, 04:39 PM

Being cross-nerded in more than two of these things probably puts you at the very bottom of the barrel with a significant gap on the ladder to the next highest spot. Your muscles would have atrophied to the point where there is no contest you could win that involved anything beyond simple motor functions of the dominant hand from years of furry wanking after furious bouts of Spellfire.

You might have a latent advantage in that you would probably have hideously unkempt nails, having given up on society long ago; however, this may be countered by the fact that you may also gnaw on your nails, thus defeating any advantage.

My favorite is people who are all-nerded. They love anything and everything that has a geek cult following.

Triple Naitch

01-29-2009, 04:40 PM

I never understood what makes anime better than any other cartoon or show on tv..

Jeritron

01-29-2009, 04:41 PM

It's probably because most cult followings/groups of fans have such overlap into other things. If you're into most of that stuff that falls under the category of nerdom, you probably have a higher probability of meeting friends and having stuff in common/to do.

It's an interesting subculture.

Kane Knight

01-29-2009, 04:42 PM

Don't you have a prized ninja sword too?

You'll have to explain to me the exact correlation between a "ninja" sword and anime.

thedamndest

01-29-2009, 04:42 PM

There was a guy in my dorm who was rumored to be into gay furry porn. If I had to guess what someone who put on a suit and had intercourse with other men in animal suits, it would definitely be him.

Kane Knight

01-29-2009, 04:44 PM

Being cross-nerded in more than two of these things probably puts you at the very bottom of the barrel with a significant gap on the ladder to the next highest spot. Your muscles would have atrophied to the point where there is no contest you could win that involved anything beyond simple motor functions of the dominant hand from years of furry wanking after furious bouts of Spellfire.

You might have a latent advantage in that you would probably have hideously unkempt nails, having given up on society long ago; however, this may be countered by the fact that you may also gnaw on your nails, thus defeating any advantage.
So does the factor increase for each additional nerd activity? Is there a further hierarchy?

(Or lowerarchy).

Jeritron

01-29-2009, 04:45 PM

There's only a correlation if you make one. I thought of the ninja thing, because anime, well, features ninjas and comes from the same culture. I asked two questions after you made a statement. Easy.

Jeritron

01-29-2009, 04:45 PM

Do people who watch the O'Reilly Factor count as cult fans?

thedamndest

01-29-2009, 04:48 PM

Yes, but not exponentially. I am going to develop a formula for amount of time devoted to the (activity x money spent)(number of nerdy activities). There may be some variables, but this should give you a pretty accurate reading of your Real World Nerdability.

parkmania

01-29-2009, 04:48 PM

Being cross-nerded in more than two of these things probably puts you at the very bottom of the barrel with a significant gap on the ladder to the next highest spot. Your muscles would have atrophied to the point where there is no contest you could win that involved anything beyond simple motor functions of the dominant hand from years of furry wanking after furious bouts of Spellfire.

The fact that you know of Spellfire shows just where your geekiness doth lie.
You are either a Dungeons & Dragons geek or a CCG/TCG geek.

And that's not a bad thing, that's a good thing.

thedamndest

01-29-2009, 04:49 PM

Hmm...the advent of the internet throws my formula off because many nerds would download their anime for free...no money spent.

thedamndest

01-29-2009, 04:51 PM

The fact that you know of Spellfire shows just where your geekiness doth lie.
You are either a Dungeons & Dragons geek or a CCG/TCG geek.

And that's not a bad thing, that's a good thing.

One time I beat up a nerd and demanded to know where his lunch money was. The last thing he said to me before blood loss caused him to lose consciousness was, "Between my Spellfire cards and my inhaler!"

Kane Knight

01-29-2009, 04:51 PM

There's only a correlation if you make one. I thought of the ninja thing, because anime, well, features ninjas and comes from the same culture. I asked two questions after you made a statement. Easy.

Settle down.

Jeritron

01-29-2009, 04:53 PM

That's the funny thing about nerds. They all think they're owed something by the creators of the stuff they worship, even though they've gotten a lifetime of entertainment from it.
When something new comes out, they think they deserved more even though they're the ones who aren't paying for it.

Prime example would be the people who shape their lives around George Lucas' creations (Star Wars, Indiana Jones), a guy who created the very thing they're in love with. Then they want the guy put to death for not living up to their hype.

I think wrestling fans can be the exact same way about Vince McMahon.

Jeritron

01-29-2009, 04:54 PM

Settle down.

classic.

parkmania

01-29-2009, 04:54 PM

One time I beat up a nerd and demanded to know where his lunch money was. The last thing he said to me before blood loss caused him to lose consciousness was, "Between my Spellfire cards and my inhaler!"

:yes: sure :roll: Whatever you say. Spellfire hasn't been made in over 10 years. I doubt you'd remember one throwaway reference.

thedamndest

01-29-2009, 04:58 PM

Back then I used to record my nerd beatings with my Talkboy so I could relive the sounds of fist on doughy flesh over and over, or, if I so chose, in SLOW mode.

Kane Knight

01-29-2009, 05:03 PM

classic.
Nice Damage Control.

Triple Naitch

01-29-2009, 05:04 PM

Did you also record your voice and change it so that you could reserve fancy hotels in New York as your dad? Credit card? You got it.

thedamndest

01-29-2009, 05:07 PM

I have been on all kinds of wacky adventures with the Talkboy. Including going to Smackdown to see Matt Hardy.

parkmania

01-29-2009, 05:08 PM

I have been on all kinds of wacky adventures with the Talkboy. Including going to Smackdown to see Matt Hardy.

Did you tell him he was poopy?

.44 Magdalene

01-29-2009, 05:14 PM

A conversation about Matt Hardy has turned into a conversation about nerds

Gasp

thedamndest

01-29-2009, 05:15 PM

Oh yeah. I told him, then I rewound it in case he didn't catch it the first time.

Parkmania, I've been meaning to ask: does your name pertain to a massive love for parks, and if so, amusement or dog-walking? Or is it a love of having your car safely nestled in your garage for the night, ignition off, with the excitement of getting to pull that brake again tomorrow?

Triple Naitch

01-29-2009, 05:15 PM

Actually it made its way full circle back to Matt Hardy

Jeritron

01-29-2009, 05:18 PM

Nice Damage Control.

I believe that's what yours was

thedamndest

01-29-2009, 05:18 PM

What an amazing Twist of Fate!

parkmania

01-29-2009, 05:18 PM

TD, my name's a play on my last name, and the fact that 25 years ago, I was a huge Hogan mark.

thedamndest

01-29-2009, 05:22 PM

So you don't love GatorWorld, you don't love dog walking, and you have no affinity for car parking. I was way off.

parkmania

01-29-2009, 05:25 PM

Never heard of GatorWorld (Kennywood is the local amusement park, if that's what you mean), I hate dogs (I especially love to punt little yipper dogs), and I don't have a garage.

So yeah, way off.

Jeritron

01-29-2009, 06:48 PM

Gator Golf, you give it a whack. Gator Golf, he'll spit it right back

Jeritron

01-29-2009, 06:48 PM

Not to be confused with Crocodile Mile.

You run, you slide, you hit the bump and take a diveee

parkmania

01-29-2009, 07:08 PM

I usually prefered Hungry Hungry Hippos.

Fox

01-29-2009, 07:33 PM

You prefer eating balls to sliding in and getting wet?

Hmm.

Xero

01-29-2009, 07:40 PM

Crossfire... You'll get caught up in the... Crossfire... Crossfire... CROSSFIRE!

parkmania

01-29-2009, 08:01 PM

*shakes head*

How did I let myself get drawn into that one...

*neg reps self*

The Mackem

01-29-2009, 08:05 PM

Let me help you out there parkmania.

Triple Naitch

01-29-2009, 09:16 PM

I prefer Mr. Bucket

I'm Mr. Bucket, put your balls in my mouth, Mr. Bucket

Kane Knight

01-29-2009, 09:31 PM

A conversation about Matt Hardy has turned into a conversation about nerds

Gasp

lawl hes on the internet

Kane Knight

01-29-2009, 09:33 PM

I believe that's what yours was

Mine was more about telling you to settle down after you got your back up over me using logic. :p

If I pretend otherwise to placate you, will you drop it? :kiss: