Better Wrestler #57

[Destor]

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VS

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3 days

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<SELECT><OPTION selected>Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</OPTION><OPTION>Taz</OPTION><OPTION>Kurt Angle</OPTION></SELECT>

[thedamndest]

R-Truth FTW!

[CSL]

Ouuuch. Get back to ya

[Destor]

Ouuuch. Get back to yaI liek seeing this reaction.

[Destor]

also, I voted punk cause I'm a huge Punk mark.

[Jeritron]

I mark for Punk more over the past few years, but I mark for Booker going way back. Harlem Heat, his US title days, and his early days in WWE. Even in WCW 2000 he was great, and the bright spot.

Still undecided.

[BigDaddyCool]

Booker T has simply done more than Punk.

[Krimzon7]

Booker T gets my vote. He Is still gold. He could be a top performer in the E if he chose to be right now. Punker is bland in the 'E' ,even for the 'E'.

[Jeritron]

You act like he's choosing not to be a top performer in the E. If he could, I'm sure he would. He can but he just doesn't want to? I don't buy that. He could, concievably, but they just weren't letting him. That would be a bit more accurate. Or he could, but it just didn't fall together right. Or how about, he just couldn't but he's still great anyways. It just wasn't happening for him, and he didn't like it. Now he's in TNA.

Still love Booker though

[Destor]

He was a top guy when he QUIT the WWE Jerry.

[Jeritron]

A top guy I suppose. I thought he was getting at the top. There were at least 7 or so guys that outranked him in terms of top spot.

And I think he was also gettin de-pushed in his last few months. Wasn't that one of the reasons he quit?

[The Mackem]

CM Punk doesn't come close to Booker for me. Not yet anyway.

[Destor]

Being in the top 10 is def being "at the top."

[Jeritron]

Well then maybe I have my facts wrong. I just thought he was unhappy with things, and that he was pretty much dropping on the card.

[Destor]

He wanted to keep taking pain killers and if he failed one more piss test they were gonna can him so he just quit.

[Jeritron]

lol

[Jeritron]

And fuckin TNA hires him and looks the other way

[Destor]

His official reason is he was pissed they chose FCW over his promotion to be the developemental teritory.

[Destor]

but that's a smoke screen

[Jeritron]

Did he play the Lashley card?

[Destor]

?

[Jeritron]

Honestly, I don't feel like checking this. Are you sure he was at the top? I know he was in like 2006, but after he dropped the title wasn't he pretty much midcard?

[Krimzon7]

Damn, beat me to it Destor, Good info.

[Jeritron]

?

Racism.

[Destor]

I thought he quit for more political resasons. The 60 day suspension, the fact that they went with FCW instead of his promotion, the fact they wanted to scrap Sharmell, etc. were all reasons that Booker left.
I coverd all this save Sharmell. Mostly cause I've never heard that before.

[Destor]

Honestly, I don't feel like checking this. Are you sure he was at the top? I know he was in like 2006, but after he dropped the title wasn't he pretty much midcard?Nah, semi-main/upper mid.

Racism.Probably.

[Krimzon7]

I coverd all this save Sharmell. Mostly cause I've never heard that before.

indeed you did. good point.

[Jeritron]

Nah, semi-main/upper mid.

Probably.

Alright then. For some reason I thought he was getting depushed but I was wrong. So I take it back. Booker could be in a top spot if he chose to be. I was just evaluating top as in Cena/Batista/HHH/HBM/Edge. He was def up there though, so he was top then.

[Jeritron]

I wonder if he bitched about the King gimmick too

[Destor]

seeing as he basically is doing the same gimick in TNA I'd say no. Plus he said several times he was really geting into the gimmick...

[Destor]

I'm being a huge smart ass in here. I love you Jerry. :heart:

[Jeritron]

I have no clue what's going on in Booker T's head. Last I heard he was being a major pain in the ass in TNA too.
A talented performer who's ego and personality is their worst enemy. That'd be a first.

I'm sure he'll be fine in TNA, since they need him more than he needs them. I just think it's kind of a dick move for him to know that, and exploit it.

[Destor]

I try to ignore the dirt sheets when it comes to "so and so is being a meany." But yeah, it wouldn't surprise me.

[Lock Jaw]

Booker T gets my vote. CM Punk just hasn't shown me enough to warrant being put ahead of Booker.

[Jeritron]

It's probably his wife pulling all the strings

[Jeritron]

6-1 Booker...

[Destor]

It's probably his wife pulling all the strings
There's only one thinmg she should be pulling...CAN YOU DIG IT?

[Destor]

6-1 Booker...lookin good for Mr.T

[thedamndest]

Things haven't looked this good for Mr. T since Wrestlemania 2.

[Destor]

lol

[mike adamle]

the poll is better wrestler, not bigger push or more accomplished, and for me seeing punk in roh and seeing booker in wcw punk easily gets my vote

[Triple Naitch]

No "We comin for you, nigga" video posted yet?

[Destor]

the poll is better wrestler, not bigger push or more accomplished, and for me seeing punk in roh and seeing booker in wcw punk easily gets my vote
While I personally agree with you, the poll is "better wreslter." This can be defined by much more than in ring work. Personally being a better wrestler means being better in the most facets of the job. Which incorparates in-ring work, mic work, pressence, accomplishments, etc. Its the total package.

My opinion.

[Destor]

Tenure is a HUGE one for me.

[Juan]

Although Booker is the more accomplished of the too, which is probably because he's been wrestling for like 20 years, I still say Punk has a better complete package as a far as what I define a wrestler to be.

[Heros Welcome]

Although Booker is the more accomplished of the too, which is probably because he's been wrestling for like 20 years, I still say Punk has a better complete package as a far as what I define a wrestler to be.

Short and to the point. Perfect!

[Ruien]

Ehhh, I have to go with Booker T. He is just so damn entertaining, no matter what gimmick he is doing. One of the few people I always loved to watch, young or old.

[El Fangel]

This makes me dislike Punk even more.

[Destor]

This makes me dislike Punk even more.
Why would him loseing to Booker make you hate him? Are you a racist?

[El Fangel]

I thought Punk was winning...

Anywho, I dislike Punk.

[Destor]

I nope, he's been trasiling since the third vote.

[Juan]

Are you drunk Destor??

[Destor]

?

[Destor]

Shucks mi bawlz

[Juan]

;)

[Destor]

wan

[Destor]

eye hayght yoo

[Juan]

obi-wan*

[The Optimist]

Voted Booker T.

[El Fangel]

Your number Juan.

[Destor]

Punk takes the lead 13-12. Tight race.

[BigDaddyCool]

While this isn't a knock against Booker, I don't think he is good enough to be the top guy of a promotion he deserves to be in, he could be like top guy in RoH, but right now RoH is beneth him. But in a promotion that does deserve him, there is no doubt he is semi-mainevent or higher.

Punk on the other hand is only uppermid card at best right now. Punk may one day be a top dog, but he isn't right now. They can both put on an entertaining match, but Booker is a far more complete packaged. Plus Booker has taken some really shitty gimmicks and made them gold. Punk has only had the straight edge gimmick which appearently was awesome in the indies and is now only passable as a face in WWE.

Also there is the fact that Booker's legacy is already cemented. He will be remembered as he has won more titles than everyone but Lawler, and one of the few legitamate black maineventers.

Punk, for the time being is a fluke World Heavyweight Champion that "out popped" DX. He is some sort of indy legend, but then again so is Jerry Lynn, and no one cares about him now.

So besides flavor of the month, I have no idea how Punk is beating Booker T.

[Destor]

Jerry Lynn is still amazing.

[BigDaddyCool]

Jerry Lynn is ok for a vanilla midget.

[Destor]

5'10 isn't that short. There have been plenty of world champions at that heigth.

[BigDaddyCool]

Who and so what? While techincally he is amazing*, but seriously that is what every guy in the indies is known for.

*By that I mean he can do every move under the sun well.

[Jeritron]

BDC believes in the power 25, and not real talent

[BigDaddyCool]

BDC believes in the TPWW Power 25.

Anyone that says CM Punk is better than Booker T is a racist, there I said it.

[Destor]

Who and so what? While techincally he is amazing*, but seriously that is what every guy in the indies is known for.

*By that I mean he can do every move under the sun well.Jericho? Bret Bret Hart? HBM is really only 5'11...

And some people watch wrestling to see good matches BDC. Not interesting charecters. They have movies/TV for that.

Lord knows I didn't get into wrestling cause I wanted to an "entertaining charecter."

[BigDaddyCool]

Jericho, Bret and HBK are all taller than 5'10". You should have said Eddie Guerrero. And all 4 of them can do everything Lynn can do, plus they aren't boring as hell.

You could have also said Rey, but he was never a champion.

[Jeritron]

I don't think you know what you're talking about at all.

[Jeritron]

The first two sentences of that post are false, or misleading. And the second is a stale joke.

[Destor]

Jericho, Bret and HBK are all taller than 5'10". You should have said Eddie Guerrero. And all 4 of them can do everything Lynn can do, plus they aren't boring as hell.

You could have also said Rey, but he was never a champion.lol. what? WITH BOOTS ON Jericho and Bret are only 5'10. lol

[BigDaddyCool]

So are you saying Shawn Micheals is boring as hell?

[Destor]

Clearly not.

[BigDaddyCool]

Anyhow, the point isn't how tall they are, the point is they can put on a 5 star match every bit as well as Lynn, but they can do it with some zazz.

[Jeritron]

They can put out an end product like Lynn, but they can't do everything he can do. Just like he can't do everything they can do.

[Jeritron]

So are you saying Shawn Micheals is boring as hell?

lol

[BigDaddyCool]

They can put out an end product like Lynn, but they can't do everything he can do. Just like he can't do everything they can do.

I agree they can't suck as bad ass Lynn.

[Juan]

I agree they can't suck as bad ass Lynn.

C'mon! Now you're just talking out of your ass.

[BigDaddyCool]

Oh, so you are saying the poor dead Eddie Guererro suck as bad as Lynn?

[thedamndest]

When Jerry Lynn was born he sunset flipped out of the womb and did a cradle piledriver to the delivering doctor.

[Juan]

Jerry Lynn doesn't suck, so your whole argument is moot.

[Jeritron]

I highly doubt you've even seen him wrestle a match.

[Destor]

BDC I don't know where you get this stuff. Also, I thought you weren't talking to me?

[Jeritron]

Trouble in paradise for the Kliq. Maybe even thunder in paradise

[BigDaddyCool]

BDC I don't know where you get this stuff. Also, I thought you weren't talking to me?

I wasn't talking to you because you disappeared, now that you are back, I can talk you again, boy you are dumb.

[Destor]

Tied up. hot match

[Jeritron]

I still haven't voted

[Destor]

Seriously hot match though.

[Verbose Minch]

Hit one up for old Booker.

[RatedGSuperstar]

I tried putting together a solid post as to why I voted for Booker T, but fuck it. I like Punk, but I'm a Booker mark.

[Krimzon7]

:lol:
You're a Booker Mark?!?!?!?!?


I'm stopping a page 148, sucka!
Chapter 10 I'm coming for you NIGGA!

[Triple Naitch]

Trouble in paradise for the Kliq. Maybe even thunder in paradise

http://img.verycd.com/posts/0609/post-425982-1157999603.jpg

[RatedGSuperstar]

:lol:
You're a Booker Mark?!?!?!?!?


I'm stopping a page 148, sucka!
Chapter 10 I'm coming for you NIGGA!

He's just usually gold on the mic. It doesn't matter if he's being serious or goofing around, he's good. I haven't seen that kind of versatility out of Punk yet (although I'll admit I never followed him in the indies, so I don't know for sure).

I'm pretty sure everyone has someone they'd mark out for and feel a little guilty about. :lol:

[Anybody Thrilla]

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http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/2003/09/10/lynn_jerry_ecw.jpg

[Mercury Bullet]

Booker T. I like Punk but at this point in their careers The Book has just done so much more it wasn't really a touch decision.

[Innovator]

Punk

Booker's best time in WCW was just him ripping off the Rock, plus PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNK

[ron the dial]

yeah punk

[The Franchise]

CM Punk

[KYR]

Booker. Basically because he has been around longer and consequently had more time to establish himself and his various characters with the fans - Punk's still on the by-road waiting to get onto the main highway IMO.

Plus Booker/Goldy produced some of the funniest moments in WWF/E history.

[Jeritron]

I'm still undecided.

[Juan]

All tied up!

[Juan]

Make up your mind already, Jeri!

[Jeritron]

No.

[Destor]

Amazing match. We might have our first tie right here.

[Juan]

No.

Yes

[Jeritron]

My vote carries great power. But with great power, comes great responsibility.

[KYR]

I think you should do the responsible thing and cast your vote.

[Jeritron]

I dunno yet. This is coming from the guy who saved his to swerve us all

[Juan]

On second thought, don't vote Jeri. Save it to break the tie right before the poll closes.

[Destor]

save it to tie it back up right before the poll closes.

[thedamndest]

Do the White Thing.

[Jeritron]

I'm not listening to any of you. I have integrity. I will vote according to who I feel is the better man when I see fit.

[thedamndest]

Post your girlfriend masturbating.

[Juan]

lol

[Jeritron]

I possess The Three I's

[KYR]

I'm not listening to any of you. I have integrity. I will vote according to who I feel is the better man when I see fit.

No ThaT's fair enough Too. We wanT This to be as fair as possible wiThouT any undue facTors influencing your decision.

When The Time is righT you will casT your vote equiTably and by the BOOK er T

[Juan]

Too much Time on your hands.

[thedamndest]

It's black history month.

[thedamndest]

I'm not trying to say that one competitor is black, but Booker T is black.

[Jeritron]

It's black mystery month

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/12/18/article-0-02D86F7F000005DC-348_468x434.jpg

[Destor]

It's black history month.
And here punk is taking food out of black people mouthes...you know, with the whole straight edge thing...to far?

[Jeritron]

pepsi or purple stuff

[thedamndest]

I HAVE A DREAM! A DREAM WHERE BOOKER T CAN DEFEAT CM PUNK IN BETTER WRESTLER #57! NOW CAN YOU DIG THAT, SUCKA???

[Juan]

CM PUNK, WE COMIN FOR YOU, NIGGA!

[Jeritron]

CM CRUNK!! YEAHHHHH!

[Jeritron]

that was bad.

[Juan]

lol

[Jeritron]

Monday Nights on USA are the only place to see...CM Monk

[Jeritron]

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/2900/cmchunkzy2.jpg

[thedamndest]

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[The Mackem]

Bit surprised by this one to be honest.

[4 knuckles up]

Bit surprised by this one to be honest.

Do you think it has anything to do with CM Punk getting himself more established, or Book 'dropping' down to TNA?

[Destor]

There is a legit possibility that Punk is better.

[Destor]

15 to go and Booker is down by one!

[Destor]

Could we see our first tie?

[Destor]

PUNK WINS!!!

[Juan]

Good match :y:

[Jeritron]

My vote won it

[Dorkchop]

Crap. I didn't get a chance to vote for Booker. As much as I love CM Punk, Booker T is one of my top wrestlers of all time. I'm sure Punk will be up there at some point.

[Krimzon7]

Vote for Booker! It's freaking Feburary!!!

[The Mackem]

Do you think it has anything to do with CM Punk getting himself more established, or Book 'dropping' down to TNA?

Yeah he is on the road no doubts there, I like CM punk. I'm interested to see who he goes up against next because I seriously didn't think he would beat Booker T.