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Jeritron
02-12-2009, 05:13 AM
At least to me. Sounds very good, and I think it's nice to take a break from Gotham and work on another project.
Nolan's amazing, and this sounds like it could be very cool. It's probably some type of deal with WB where they're funding this project of his and he'll do the third movie afterwards. Or maybe not? We won't know for a couple years.
Christopher Nolan Directing Inception Next
Source: The Hollywood Reporter February 11, 2009
Christopher Nolan has set up his next project with Warner Bros., an original screenplay he wrote called Inception. The "Dark Knight" director hopes to shoot the sci-fi action film in the summer for a release during summer 2010.
Nolan will produce with partner Emma Thomas, who served as a producer on The Dark Knight.
"Chris Nolan is a visionary filmmaker who continually raises the bar with each movie he makes," Warner Bros. Pictures Group president Jeff Robinov said. "We are thrilled to be collaborating again with him and Emma on this exciting new motion picture."
Inception is described as "a contemporary sci-fi actioner set within the architecture of the mind."
This pushes back any potential filming on a third Batman film, but three years -- and The Prestige -- passed between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. Nolan has also long been attached to direct a big-screen adaptation of the British TV series "The Prisoner" for producer Scott Stuber at Universal.
Mr. Nerfect
02-12-2009, 07:39 AM
To be honest, I think this is a wise move. With The Dark Knight being so awesome, and the performance by Heath Ledger soaking up more praise than pretty much any other element of the movie, rushing in to do "Batman 3" could dry up excitement pretty fast.
I mean, it's going to be one hell of a challenge to make a movie better than The Dark Knight, and if it comes along too soon after The Dark Knight, I fear that people may begin to become immune to the awesomeness that is that series.
Christopher Nolan can do some awesome directing (maybe one or two movies) and Christian Bale some awesome acting, and then later they can meet up and do the third one, and people will be like "about fucking time!"
Alan The Rapist
02-12-2009, 09:36 AM
This is a big, fat "Duh". They should do the Batman thing every 3-4 years to keep it fresh. When you rush them, you get the crap movies from the first run. PLus, it keeps Nolan's head in a good place to keep the creativity top notch and doesn't bog a genius down.
DaveWadding
02-12-2009, 10:08 PM
Christopher Nolan is the greatest director of all time. He has NOT made a movie less than 10/10
YOUR Hero
02-13-2009, 10:22 AM
They should pump out new Batman movies every 6 months.
Jeritron
03-04-2009, 03:18 PM
DiCaprio Boards Nolan's Inception
Source: The Hollywood Reporter March 3, 2009
Leonardo DiCaprio is set to star in Inception, the sci-fi action film Christopher Nolan (The Dark Knight, Batman Begins) wrote and is directing for Warner Bros. Pictures.
Inception is described as a contemporary sci-fi action movie set within "the architecture of the mind."
Buzzkill
07-16-2010, 07:25 PM
Just came home from seeing an early morning screening of this, and I have to say that I was sufficiently mind blown.
I can see why some people have taken issue with it, but I loved every minute of it. It takes you on a crazy ride that you just have to roll with. I've been thinking about it nonstop, and I definitely plan on seeing it again.
Movie of the year, and one of the best action movies I've seen in the last 5 years.
Definitely gets a bit overambitious at times, but it was so well constructed and brilliantly conceived that it really doesn't matter. Great great film making.
4.5/5 for me
FakeLaser
07-16-2010, 08:59 PM
Only read yr. first sentence because I am going to see this shortly
McLegend
07-16-2010, 09:39 PM
From the previews this kind of looks Dark City.
Is it like Dark City anyway?
Everyone wakes up at the end
The End
FakeLaser
07-17-2010, 01:16 AM
The story is fantastic, very complex and layered; I will say that. The action sequences got to be a bit much at certain points but I guess it is an action/sci-fi movie. I still give it a 9/10. It doesn't get much better than that if you're talking summer blockbuster. One of the best directors of our time.
Buzzkill
07-17-2010, 04:46 AM
(SPOILERS - This thread got merged from another which had a spoiler warning in the title)
Almost never see movies multiple times in theaters, but I'm going again asap while it's still fresh in my head. Really loved that after seeing it, the whole movie felt like a bit of a dream itself. A few things that weren't quite right and deliberately couldn't make sense as it related to the story. Definitely pulls the rug out from under you.
Anyway, my take on the ending is that there is no possible way to know. I figured he just cut away to tease us a bit, but that it was implied he was in the main reality. Really no way of knowing for sure.
Didn't entirely follow where the opening scene occured in the timeline, but it seemed to be between Leo's death at the hands of Mal and his arrival in the US. BUT WHO THE FUCK KNOWS YA?
Confused
07-17-2010, 12:20 PM
Great film. Thought there were some absolutely brilliant set pieces like the gravity loss bits and the city constructions / destructions.
Could see the bit with the totem at the end coming a mile off.
Tom Hardy will surely be a big star on the back of this. He was fantastic.
Confused
07-17-2010, 12:25 PM
One of the best directors of our time.
Completely agree with that.
I'm in the process of replacing all of the Nolan films i have on DVD with the Blu-Rays.
Can't wait to see what The Prestige looks like in High Definition.
dronepool
07-17-2010, 09:35 PM
Inception was really good, one of the most unique movies I've seen in a few years.
Saw it late last night. I'm still in awe. This is so far away from the usual action popcorn garbage we get served up every year. Nothing else released this year can top Inception, in all categories.
I'm probably going to see it again today or tomorrow night. I have to see it again to try and understand everything fully.
What Would Kevin Do?
07-18-2010, 09:25 AM
I seriously love the ambiguity at the end. Especially since there is so much stuff sprinkled throughout the movie that makes it seem like his reality is a dream. For example, Cobb is never shown going anywhere, he just arrives.
Another great thing I was thinking about was that if it was a dream, it'd all be in Cobb's head, so why were the figments in the mark's head going after him... Then I realized that everytime someone went after Cobb in the mark's head, someone else was with him, so they could have been going after the mark, and not him.
Buzzkill
07-18-2010, 07:52 PM
SPOILERS
Yeah the more I think about it, there was so much in the "main" reality that was off and dreamlike. The chase in Mombosa? Totally surreal. Then Saito just shows up out of nowhere? HMMMM
Starting to think the whole movie was similar to the "alt" timeline in Lost. It served to help Cobb let go of Mal, maybe explicitly by some unknown character (the whole thing was basically an "inception" into Cobb's mind, maybe with Ariadne as the main agent)
FakeLaser
07-19-2010, 05:25 PM
SPOILERS
As soon as Cobb mentioned being stuck in crazy ass purgatory for a long ass time I figured the entire movie was his purgatory and Saito had figured out some way to get him out of it, hence their deal which was able to finally send Cobb home. I mean, in pretty much EVERY reality you had visuals of the kids with their backs turned and also of his wife. Dunno though.
Buzzkill
07-19-2010, 10:02 PM
SPOILERS
Also consider that when Fischer dies in the 3rd tier, Cobb goes into the subconscious to pull him back out, but that level was actually Cobb's former "limbo" state. Why would Fischer be there? Doesn't that imply that Fischer himself is just a projection of Cobb's subconscious, and thus, everything that happened throughout the film?
FakeLaser
07-19-2010, 11:55 PM
SPOILERS
Yeah I was thinking that.
Also the movie begins abruptly, "in the middle" just like Cobb explained when he first introduced the architect to the concept of Inception. You never remember a dream from the beginning, you kind of just show up in the middle of the action.
Blitz
07-20-2010, 09:44 PM
Awesome movie. And the final scene was amazing. Entire audience was like "ughhhhhhh" when it cut to black.
Fuck, DiCaprio sure likes the the intense loner with emotional damage roles. Get the man into a comedy, ffs. Also, I'd watch Joseph Gordon Levitt read the phone book and probably be monstrously entertained. Most underrated actor going today.
Blitz
07-20-2010, 09:44 PM
Also want to do naughty things to Ellen Page.
Triple A
07-21-2010, 02:35 AM
Feel like I am going to be "in the minority" obviously but really didn't like this.
All of the dialogue felt "dreadful" to me. Cringed so many times during this movie. Eventually kinda started to almost completely lose interest. Kept daydreaming about having missionary position sex with Ellen Page for like 8% of the movie. Felt extremely bored for like 80% of the movie, and really liked about 12% of it.
I dunno what I was expecting though I guess. Kinda feel like I "should have known" what to expect (sci fi action movie with "snappy" comic book dialogue) but I dunno. I "loved" The Dark Knight in spite of that so kinda expected to like this as much, also considering that it is now #3 on imdb ( :roll: ).
I DUNNO whatever.
You should go and watch it again. Hollywood News says "see it twice"
Buzzkill
07-21-2010, 03:29 AM
Feel like I am going to be "in the minority" obviously but really didn't like this.
All of the dialogue felt "dreadful" to me. Cringed so many times during this movie. Eventually kinda started to almost completely lose interest. Kept daydreaming about having missionary position sex with Ellen Page for like 8% of the movie. Felt extremely bored for like 80% of the movie, and really liked about 12% of it.
I dunno what I was expecting though I guess. Kinda feel like I "should have known" what to expect (sci fi action movie with "snappy" comic book dialogue) but I dunno. I "loved" The Dark Knight in spite of that so kinda expected to like this as much, also considering that it is now #3 on imdb ( :roll: ).
I DUNNO whatever.Yeah there were some bits of dialogue that had me cringing as well.
"NO IDEA IS SIMPLE WHEN YOU'RE PLANTING IT IN SOMEONE'S MIND!"
But the pure ingenuity and intricacy of the plot overshadowed all of its flaws for me. Just saw it again, and the final thirty minutes are absolutely brilliant. The way it is put together from a film making standpoint is just supreme.
Even if it doesn't explicitly imply that the story was an inception into Cobb's mind, the parallels to his inception on Fischer seemed deliberate. Through reaching deep into the subconscious, he was able to achieve his "catharsis" in the same way that Fischer did.
Also consider that Ellen Page was poking around in his subconscious the entire time, and it was eventually her that convinced him to dive into limbo. If she was in fact performing Inception on Cobb, she was using a very similar technique as Cobb was on Fischer (convince the subject to go there for other reasons)
The Mackem
07-21-2010, 01:57 PM
Great film. Thought there were some absolutely brilliant set pieces like the gravity loss bits and the city constructions / destructions.
Could see the bit with the totem at the end coming a mile off.
Tom Hardy will surely be a big star on the back of this. He was fantastic.
I literally sat up and said 'fucking hell' at the gravity loss fight scene. Seriously. Probably the best cinema experience since Dark Knight for me. Well worth seeing.
Everybody let out a collective 'awwww' at the end. Haha can't remember anything like it.
Cast was phenomenal but I don't know how much was the actors and how much was the writing and the actual film itself but holy crap it was all amazing.
Really liked it, probably the most I've enjoyed a film this year. Didn't read much about it beforehand but mainly went to see it because of Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Was even happier when Tom Hardy showed up.
St. Jimmy
07-22-2010, 02:31 PM
Do we get to see Juno naked? If not, pass.
Buzzkill
07-22-2010, 02:36 PM
Don't understand why everybody omgs over Ellen Page so much. Looks like an oddly shaped 14 year old
Requiem
07-22-2010, 02:43 PM
Going to see this tonight with former TPWW poster DS.
McLegend
07-22-2010, 04:53 PM
Good movie
I do kind of want to see it again. Also Ellen Page didn't bother me in this, because she usually does. She looked good in the Hotel part to.
I think Leo is still trapped in limbo. You never saw them taking the sedatives out of them in the plane, and then later Micahael Caine and Leo just appeared at the house.
Also is it possible there there is only one limbo, and therefore making it possible for Saito and Leo to meet up in limbo?
Another thing is why didn't everyone wake up from the 1st layer when they hit the water. Shouldn't they have woken up on the plane without ever having to swim out of the car?
Ellen Page is fucking ugly. I bet Leo refused to do the movie unless she wore a Mila Kunis mask when not shooting.
Ellen Page rocking the Bieber
http://www.cartoondollemporium.com/forum/pics/cdeblog/244.page.ellen.092706.jpg
Ellen Page may have invented the Bieber before Bieber. I dunno.
I could totally see Ellen Page being a lesbian in the next 2 years or so.
Loose Cannon
07-23-2010, 12:10 PM
lol The BIEBER
Reavant
07-23-2010, 07:56 PM
I have to see it again because i fell asleep through half of it.... not because it was boring but because i was so fucking tired. ANYWAY i think that this is one of those movies that if you say you didnt like it, then people will say its because you were not smart enough to understand it.
McLegend
07-23-2010, 10:35 PM
Or they could say
You didn't like it because you fell asleep.
Gonzo
07-23-2010, 11:36 PM
Just saw this, I've read some of the posts in here and hadn't considered some of them, but this is what I have concluded from my first viewing:
Saito dies in the third layer from his wound in the first layer obviously. He becomes trapped in limbo. Cobb gets stabbed by Mal in the fourth layer, and says he has to stay to find Saito (because without him he can't return to the United States.) My initial interpretation is that Cobb "dies" from his stab wound, thus going into limbo where Saito is. I interpret this to be another level from all the others, because at the end, Cobb has trouble recalling why he is going to find Saito. They talk about the agreement, and Cobb mentions a "leap of faith." The falling sensation is what wakes them up. Now if you'll remember that each successive layer gives you more time to return using the "kick" as the previous one, then Cobb and Saito theoretically have more time to return using the kick. Thus, they create the falling sensation and use the kick to return to the plane, and back to reality. The little top or whatever it is was wobbling at the end.
I'm sure there are holes in there I'm not thinking of. Plus, if you also subscribe to the notion that the whole thing is Cobb's dreams plus his sub-conscience then this is null. I think with movies like this we tend to over analyze stuff, but some of the stuff is plainly explained in the film.
I bet Ellen Page's beaver has a Bieber.
Reavant
07-24-2010, 11:36 AM
Or they could say
You didn't like it because you fell asleep.
i liked what i saw...
El Vaquero de Infierno
07-24-2010, 02:25 PM
Tom Hardy has definitely improved since Star Trek: Nemesis.
I liked the film. I don't know why some people have a hard time following it.
RoXer
07-25-2010, 07:39 PM
Loved it
I didn't really like this. I have pretty shitty vision and couldn't really see what was going on because I was sitting in the back, so I may have to see it again to get a better appreciation of the movie. It just seemed like a generic thriller with a quasi complex plot to make the chase scenes in the movie feel more important. The characters really had no depth beyond what was needed for the story, and the dream reality thing felt limited in terms of the logic used to appropriate them. Also they kept on using the word 'subconscious' to describe everything, which is a layman's term that isn't used in scientific contexts and wouldn't be used in the situations set up in the movie. I know I am nitpicking there, but it made the movie appear to be a bit undiscerning to certain details.
I will give this movie another chance eventually. Sometimes it takes me more than one seeing to start to like a film, especially one like this.
Y2Ant
07-25-2010, 08:47 PM
I really wanna see this.
Let's make it happen, DrA.
We can see it together in IMAX. I didn't like Fight Club or The Matrix at first either but changed my position on them the second time they were reviewed on DrA and Roeper. I just wasn't in the mood to see a 148 minute movie today.
mitch_h
07-25-2010, 11:05 PM
I thought it was good. The whole dream invasion pseudo science aspect isn't really that interesting on it's own but I really liked the way Nolan worked it into a smart heist film. The performances were incredible as were the visuals and it was refreshing to see a summer movie with brians.
As for the things that bothered me, I found it was a bit too bloated with content, which resulted in the narrative feeling a little clunky. Actually, I thought that The Dark Knight suffered from the same problem. Also with so much story and content to go through the film lost some of the nuances and character development of other heist films like Rififi, Asphalt Jungle, The Killing and Heat. The third layer didn't do anything for me either, the action scenes were poorly directed and the set piece felt out of place or something. Still really liked it though. 8/10
The action scenes were poorly directed? That Joseph Gordon-Levitt scene with the 'anti-gravity'/revolving set was spectacular. Stands out so much that I don't actually remember enough about the other scenes to argue your point or not.
mitch_h
07-26-2010, 07:28 AM
The action scenes were poorly directed? That Joseph Gordon-Levitt scene with the 'anti-gravity'/revolving set was spectacular. Stands out so much that I don't actually remember enough about the other scenes to argue your point or not.
Yes I agree, I meant just the action scenes in the third layer, all that arctic compound stuff. I think Nolan can be hit or miss when directing actions scenes... I thought they were terrible in Batman Begins but good for the most part in The Dark Knight.
RoXer
07-26-2010, 03:08 PM
Part of me wants to take this at face value and enjoy the story that was explicitly told. Then the Lost fan in me really likes Frazor's theory of it all being a dream.
I have to figure out what side I'm on.
Requiem
07-26-2010, 03:19 PM
What? No. The action scenes in this movie were tight the whole way through. Honestly have no complaints about this movie.
XCaliber
07-27-2010, 09:44 PM
I'd have to agree that the 3rd layer wasn't all that great but this movie was so great I am actually considering giving the novel a chance and see how much it differs and how I envison it.
Stickman
07-27-2010, 10:04 PM
I was meh by the movie. I really don't have an interest in explaining why. I was entertained but I wasn't sitting on the edge of my seat, 7/10.
Just saw this, I've read some of the posts in here and hadn't considered some of them, but this is what I have concluded from my first viewing:
Saito dies in the third layer from his wound in the first layer obviously. He becomes trapped in limbo. Cobb gets stabbed by Mal in the fourth layer, and says he has to stay to find Saito (because without him he can't return to the United States.) My initial interpretation is that Cobb "dies" from his stab wound, thus going into limbo where Saito is. I interpret this to be another level from all the others, because at the end, Cobb has trouble recalling why he is going to find Saito. They talk about the agreement, and Cobb mentions a "leap of faith." The falling sensation is what wakes them up. Now if you'll remember that each successive layer gives you more time to return using the "kick" as the previous one, then Cobb and Saito theoretically have more time to return using the kick. Thus, they create the falling sensation and use the kick to return to the plane, and back to reality. The little top or whatever it is was wobbling at the end.
I'm sure there are holes in there I'm not thinking of. Plus, if you also subscribe to the notion that the whole thing is Cobb's dreams plus his sub-conscience then this is null. I think with movies like this we tend to over analyze stuff, but some of the stuff is plainly explained in the film.
Here's my take:
Saito dies in the third layer (the arctic dream) and goes into Cobb's limbo, as he is the only one who has been to limbo who is also sharing Saito's dream. Fischer is also killed in the third layer (sent to limbo), so Cobb and Ariadne have to go deeper than the third level and into limbo to retrieve him. There, Ariadne and Fischer jump off the roof and use the kick to ride back up to the third layer where Fischer confronts his father. Cobb misses the kick, but dies in limbo. Due to the heavy sedation used to get them down to the third level of dreams, Cobb is unable to return to the real world, and instead returns to the first dream level, where he is drowned underwater. He then awakens in limbo (in the water) where he finds Saito, who is now an old man (the few minutes he died before Cobb died translated to decades in limbo), convinced that limbo is his reality. Cobb's arrival convinces him otherwise and he shoots himself and Cobb, sending them back to the real world, as the extreme sedation has worn off.
Emperor Smeat
07-28-2010, 12:45 AM
Just came back from watching it and its defiantly one of the best films I've seen in the last few years. Whole audience was upset at the Sopranos-like ending but not because it was bad but because everyone wanted to know the final question of the film.
YOUR Hero
07-28-2010, 09:55 AM
I was so bored watching this. It took so long to develop and then once it did, I was 'out of it'. There were some good points to the film, but overall I left feeling "meh". I wouldn't watch it again.
DaveWadding
07-28-2010, 05:57 PM
Christopher Nolan is the greatest director of all time. He has NOT made a movie less than 10/10
I was exaggerating the 1st part. But not the 2nd. Holy shit.
Jeritron
07-29-2010, 08:10 PM
Just reading this thread I'm seeing a lot of talk about the action sequences. Maybe I was just really into it but I didn't feel like there were a lot of action sequences at all.
Just 2 or 3, which were woven into the story and didn't really stick out to me as gratuitous action. I dunno. I wouldn't call this any more of an action movie than Blade Runner or something in that vain.
It's just science fiction noir.
Team Sheep
07-29-2010, 08:36 PM
Watched this tonight. Really enjoyed it, if not a bit confused at times. I felt terrible watching it and having the hots for that Ellen Page, thinking she was like 14/15. I come home and google her and it turns out she's 23 :o
McLegend
07-29-2010, 08:40 PM
So
Can anyone answer why the gravity in the 3rd layer wasn't fucked up like it was in the 2nd layer?
So
Can anyone answer why the gravity in the 3rd layer wasn't fucked up like it was in the 2nd layer?
An easy guess is that the gravity/tremor effects only effect you one layer down. So, while on Level 2 they felt the gravity shift and tremors from the van shaking and eventually falling off the bridge in Level 1, those effects will only travel down one level, from 1 to 2. If the hotel in Level 2 were breaking or collapsing or something, perhaps they might feel THAT on Level 3.
Triple A
08-03-2010, 01:12 AM
Suddenly they are all skiing
Hanso Amore
08-03-2010, 10:24 AM
Honestly I was kind of baked and watched a bootleg of this so I am lost
Each level time changes, so like you could be in Limbo for YEARS and in your real world life it was only 2 hours, right?
And what happens to your real world body if you are stuck in limbo? Coma? Is that what is seems like to the real world?
And so you die in a dream and you go to limbo? Then you need to be kicked all the way back to the real world?
I need to watch this again
The Destroyer
08-10-2010, 12:28 PM
Finally got around to seeing this and really, really enjoyed it. Best film I've seen in a long time.
I'm really struggling to think of anything I didn't like about it. I even liked the ending, despite the whole ambiguity of it.
Joey Slugs
08-16-2010, 10:50 PM
Just saw it last night.
Christopher Nolan is a fucking genius
Joey Slugs
08-16-2010, 11:07 PM
Joey Slugs
Yes?
Snowden
08-17-2010, 01:04 AM
Honestly I was kind of baked and watched a bootleg of this so I am lost
Each level time changes, so like you could be in Limbo for YEARS and in your real world life it was only 2 hours, right?
And what happens to your real world body if you are stuck in limbo? Coma? Is that what is seems like to the real world?
And so you die in a dream and you go to limbo? Then you need to be kicked all the way back to the real world?
I need to watch this again
When you're in limbo your brain feels like its been asleep for ages, but in reality you've just been laying there for however long you've been asleep. Essentially, your brain is tricked into thinking a lot of time has passed, when in the real world you've just been having a very vivid, elaborate, and seemingly long dream
RoXer
08-17-2010, 01:09 AM
I've seen more spine in jellyfish.
Hanso Amore
08-17-2010, 01:32 PM
So if you were in limbo, and your alarm went off, you would come out of it?
Snowden
08-17-2010, 01:38 PM
Well, being in limbo for 50 years may be the equivalent of being asleep for a second or two...but in the off chance that that did happen, I doubt it.
Here's why: to get to Limbo you have to be heavily sedated when you dream. If you're knocked out that much, then I doubt those sounds would awaken you.
Joey Slugs
08-17-2010, 04:44 PM
I've seen more spine in jellyfish.
I've seen more guts in eleven-year-old kids.
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