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BigDaddyCool
02-17-2009, 11:00 AM
Not only that Rey can take a million times more punishment than they can, it looks so unrealistic. And here is the thing that really gets me, how can Rey take all this and still win, while Jamie Noble gets utterly destroyed in seconds by the exact same monsters Rey faced the week before?

Volare
02-17-2009, 11:01 AM
He's da batman!

Londoner
02-17-2009, 11:02 AM
I don't give a shit about Rey atm, tbh.

Volare
02-17-2009, 11:04 AM
Now that I think about it, every PG show needs its Superhero! Hurricane Helms just turned down the job to Rey.

6to1
02-17-2009, 11:25 AM
yea i was sick of that back in wcw days, i think that is all that ray wants to wrestle. i wish vince would bring back the light weight div or let all the small guys go to tna or roh.

Afterlife
02-17-2009, 11:28 AM
Rey the biggest little guy they've got. And Noble's not allowed to be popular.

Maluco
02-17-2009, 11:30 AM
Its strange, because the hosses, like Knox, seem to man handle him in the build up to matches, and thewn come match time, like you say, he seems to win everytime.

As adult watchers it is difficult to suspend belief, but the kids love Rey and as long as they do, he will continue to prosper, although with the state of his knees etc... they should maybe be looking at him to put over more cruiserweights in his place rather than stand alone against these hosses.

Novaman
02-17-2009, 11:41 AM
Yes im sick of it, i miss the days of cruiserweight matchs at least they were watchable

Hanso Amore
02-17-2009, 11:50 AM
I dont need to see him in a lightweight match, but would like to see him with a normal sized opponent. Kane, Knox, JBL, Khali, Henry etc are all big dudes. Why can we see like a program with someone like Jericho? That match could be killer.

Hanso Amore
02-17-2009, 11:51 AM
The Big Man little man dynamic only goes so far, and they over do it constantly.

BigDaddyCool
02-17-2009, 11:53 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing Rey against Orton or the Hardies or Edge or whatever. His moves would look more effective.

wwe2222
02-17-2009, 11:59 AM
Im tired of Rey period.

Xero
02-17-2009, 12:09 PM
Now that I think about it, every PG show needs its Superhero! Hurricane Helms just turned down the job to Rey.
Why does RAW need two, though?

Xero
02-17-2009, 12:10 PM
Have they done Michaels/Rey yet? That could be a decent feud for SummerSlam, or at least the downtime between Mania and SummerSlam.

BigDaddyCool
02-17-2009, 12:11 PM
I don't think so. But would it be face v face? Cause those are gay.

Kane86
02-17-2009, 12:13 PM
Rey should got back to Mexico there is no room for him left............

Xero
02-17-2009, 12:14 PM
I don't think so. But would it be face v face? Cause those are gay.

Doesn't need to be. Heel Rey would be a nice change of pace.

Of course, WWE wouldn't do that because Rey sells merch. And heel Shawn would be terrible if the JBL storyline is any indication of his "alternate" gimmicks.

So yeah, without a Rey turn I don't want to see the feud.

BigDaddyCool
02-17-2009, 12:15 PM
He could go back to being a selfish prick (HBM).

screech
02-17-2009, 12:31 PM
Im tired of Rey period.

Agreed. I fucking hate Rey.

Kane86
02-17-2009, 12:32 PM
He should go backt o mexico it would not be hard to replace him. Take in an example Evan Bourne. Hell fuck that he is better

Kane Knight
02-17-2009, 12:50 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Rey against Orton or the Hardies or Edge or whatever. His moves would look more effective.
Yeah, Rey's moves look terrible on big guys. He's too injured to be a cruiser now, so that leaves middle ground. He's not TOO crippled to work with them yet, and it still won't look as terrible.

Still, I'd as soon have him off my TV. I know it won't happen, but....

Dorkchop
02-17-2009, 04:27 PM
I don't mind it every now and then. He's had a good match or two with Kane when Kane isn't being booked to be Barry Horowitz. At this stage in his career, I find his best matches are with guys average sized guys.

Juan
02-17-2009, 04:28 PM
That Kofi/Rey vs. Kane/Knox tag match from a few weeks ago was pretty damn good.

Afterlife
02-17-2009, 04:30 PM
Heel Rey is something I would welcome happily. That vs. HBM would be grand.

Savio
02-17-2009, 04:59 PM
I remember back when he won the title he jobbed to every monster in the WWE.

BigDaddyCool
02-17-2009, 05:21 PM
Which title?

Xero
02-17-2009, 05:27 PM
Must be talking about the Cruiserweight.

Juan
02-17-2009, 05:29 PM
http://www.freewebs.com/tneh/April0606.jpg

:shifty:

Xero
02-17-2009, 05:36 PM
http://www.freewebs.com/tneh/April0606.jpg

:shifty:
LOL, remember that storyline? Where Rey was going around pretending to be the champion of everything, stealing belts?

:rofl:

Mr. Nerfect
02-17-2009, 05:45 PM
I'm not the biggest Rey Mysterio fan in the world, but to deny that he's had some good matches recently is pretty ignorant. His stuff with Kane and Mike Knox has been pretty high-end stuff. It's not everyone that can get that out of those men.

What I'd really like to see, is a Rey Mysterio vs. Umaga feud. They teased it back when Umaga was Vince McMahon's hired gun, and I like what they teased. Some stuff with Shelton Benjamin would be cool, too.

BigDaddyCool
02-17-2009, 05:51 PM
Shut up noid.

Xero
02-17-2009, 05:51 PM
Rey is the definition of a cliche.

He's a Mexican, mask wearing wrestling midget.

Mr. Nerfect
02-17-2009, 05:54 PM
Shut up noid.

I won't even think about shutting up until you start using proper grammar. You're not fucking e.e. cummings.

Supreme Olajuwon
02-17-2009, 07:04 PM
I think Rey would work best as a tag wrestler. At least then it'd be more believable because he'd be a change of pace that would catch opponents off guard. One on one I can't buy half the stuff he does.

SuperSlim
02-17-2009, 07:19 PM
Not only that Rey can take a million times more punishment than they can, it looks so unrealistic. And here is the thing that really gets me, how can Rey take all this and still win, while Jamie Noble gets utterly destroyed in seconds by the exact same monsters Rey faced the week before?

I've been tired of Rey for years but yeah I definitely agree with that. I'd actually rather see Noble go over than Rey. But yeah it's stupid how Rey can take so much and somehow overcome the odds and defeat the bigger and stronger man every freakin time.

Mr. Nerfect
02-17-2009, 07:37 PM
Jamie Noble should get a freakin' big push, if you ask me. I'm still trying to work out if he is meant to be a face or a heel, though. That he is consistently entertaining is one thing that I know.

Mr. Nerfect
02-17-2009, 07:37 PM
I think Rey would work best as a tag wrestler. At least then it'd be more believable because he'd be a change of pace that would catch opponents off guard. One on one I can't buy half the stuff he does.

Just wait until the debut Dos Caras. He's a masked Mexican, so what's the bet they stick him with Rey Mysterio?

Oh, and BDC, that doesn't mean I want them to do it.

thedamndest
02-17-2009, 08:27 PM
I thought Two Caras ended up not signing with WWE.

RatedGSuperstar
02-17-2009, 08:28 PM
http://www.freewebs.com/tneh/April0606.jpg

:shifty:

Awesome Photoshop job.

:lol:

Juan
02-17-2009, 08:29 PM
I thought Two Caras ended up not signing with WWE.

He didn't

thedamndest
02-17-2009, 08:33 PM
He didn't sign, or he didn't not sign?

Juan
02-17-2009, 08:43 PM
he didn't not not sign

thedamndest
02-17-2009, 08:44 PM
I'm just gonna google it.

Juan
02-17-2009, 08:44 PM
lol he DID NOT sign thed

thedamndest
02-17-2009, 08:49 PM
MMA? This guy would murder Rey so fast he would be able to feed Rey his own beating heart while Rey was still alive.

Fox
02-17-2009, 09:01 PM
Rey Mysterio had a great showing in the main event at No Way Out, and proved to me that he can still pull off some wild ass, entertaining shit. I agree that he needs to stay away from the hosses (Umaga is just more of the same, Noid) and wrestle average sized people. There are so many combinations that would just be amazing: Mysterio vs. Punk, Mysterio vs. Jericho, Mysterio vs. HBM, Mysterio vs. Benjamin, vs. MVP, vs. Killings, vs. Orton. He proved with Kurt Angle that he can put on an awesome match with an averagely sized opponent; they just have some weird thing about having him face Mike Knox every fucking week.

The Optimist
02-17-2009, 10:03 PM
It's not shitty within itself to be complete, but since we've been fed this sort of thing for ten years now it's pretty weak.

Stickman
02-18-2009, 12:04 AM
I've been tired of Rey for like 10 years.

Hornicane
02-18-2009, 03:03 AM
Rey should go back to Smackdown. He could be very effective in the midcard/US title picture that's been shaping up with Shelton, MVP, and Killings. Bouncing him from big guy to big guy got old years ago.

Anybody Thrilla
02-18-2009, 03:17 AM
I don't completely hate Rey, but I REALLY want Mike Knox to go over him clean at least once.

GD
02-18-2009, 03:44 AM
LOL, remember that storyline? Where Rey was going around pretending to be the champion of everything, stealing belts?

:rofl:

Yeah and he had freakin' name plates too!

Hornicane
02-18-2009, 03:46 AM
Rey has mad engraving skills.

GD
02-18-2009, 03:49 AM
I'm not the biggest Rey Mysterio fan in the world, but to deny that he's had some good matches recently is pretty ignorant. His stuff with Kane and Mike Knox has been pretty high-end stuff. It's not everyone that can get that out of those men.

What I'd really like to see, is a Rey Mysterio vs. Umaga feud. They teased it back when Umaga was Vince McMahon's hired gun, and I like what they teased. Some stuff with Shelton Benjamin would be cool, too.

I do agree. The casual fans absolutely adore Rey Rey. I am not a big Rey Mysterio fan but I cannot deny the fact that he brings loads of excitement. I do like the idea of Mysterio vs. Benjamin btw. :)

Tazz Dan
02-18-2009, 06:25 AM
And here is the thing that really gets me, how can Rey take all this and still win, while Jamie Noble gets utterly destroyed in seconds by the exact same monsters Rey faced the week before?

You can flip that arouns also though. How come Snitsky is so good he can smash Noble one week, then loose to Rey the next. He must suck. 2 sides to every angle.



But yeah, see where you're coming from.

Jeritron
02-18-2009, 03:29 PM
I'd rather see Rey in a tag team with a hoss, rather than beating them.

I do like Rey, I just think he needs to be used better. He has star power, but that doesn't mean he has to win matches the same way as other stars.
I'd rather see him on ECW fueding with guys like Bourne. Either that or in the IC title division. I'd much rather see him facing guys like Kofi and Morrison, than Knox and Kane.

BigDaddyCool
02-18-2009, 03:44 PM
Here is another thing. On Raw, Rey won when Knox speared himself into the ring post and was dazed, then Rey went for a quick roll up. Cole mentioned Rey was waiting for the right opportunity to pick up the win in a positive voice. Now when Edge waits for the right opportunity it is always in a negative voice. Rey, against the monsters and hosses is wait if not forcing mistakes and opportunities for him to capitalize on, yet that is good? I know he is a face and Edge is a heel. It just pisses me off.

Jeritron
02-18-2009, 03:50 PM
Well, it's one thing to seize the oppurtunity legally in the match. It's another to find loopholes in the rules, employ body doubles, use money in the bank after the most grueling match possible, etc.

But yea, I guess I get what you're saying.

Juan
02-18-2009, 03:52 PM
That's how it works. When Finlay cheats and uses the shaleighleigh, the commentators love it, but when a heel uses a foreign object to win, it's "despicable"

BigDaddyCool
02-18-2009, 03:53 PM
To Edge's credit he went through 2 Elimination Chambers Sunday. When he took the title off Cena with the MITB contract, Cena had only gone through 1. Edge > Cena in Elimination chambers. Plus Edge has been through some grueling matches and still has what it takes to win, even if he has to cheat. Sure Edge's means are questionable, but you cannot deny he gets results and is a lot more dangerous than the announcers like to give him credit for.

BigDaddyCool
02-18-2009, 03:54 PM
That's how it works. When Finlay cheats and uses the shaleighleigh, the commentators love it, but when a heel uses a foreign object to win, it's "despicable"

Same thing when a woman is hit. If a male face hits a female heel, she is a jeezabell and has it coming, while if a male heel hits a female face he is a low down scum bag.

Jeritron
02-18-2009, 03:55 PM
You're employing too much logic and expecting too much BDC. Are you just picking up on this now? It's the beauty of wrestling.

Jeritron
02-18-2009, 03:56 PM
I watched a youtube clip the other night where Steiner was going to hit Stacy Kiebler with a chair. The crowd and announcers were giving him a tremendous amount of heat.
Austin came to the rescue, and everyone approved of his chivalry.

Then, he stunned her. After all of that. And guess what? The crowd loved it. So did I. That's the way it works.

BigDaddyCool
02-18-2009, 03:58 PM
I've known this for a long time, but it still bothers me today.

Afterlife
02-18-2009, 04:06 PM
Did we have Rey vs. Khali yet?

Jeritron
02-18-2009, 04:06 PM
I wouldn't let it. Whats the point? I have a hard time taking some of the "this has been bothering me for a while" threads seriously. It's one thing when it's dealing with real life creative aspects, but grappling with plot holes and inconsistencies with the logic of kayfabe is a dead end.

Jeritron
02-18-2009, 04:06 PM
Rey and Khali should be a tag team

thedamndest
02-18-2009, 04:07 PM
Khali was one of the hosses Rey jobbed to during his epic title run.

Afterlife
02-18-2009, 04:57 PM
I just find bitching about "little guy vs. big guy" feuds to be moot to begin with.

Batsu
02-19-2009, 09:32 PM
I'm just tired of the hosses and monsters outside of the ones who really do their job (has WWE had a real decent big since the Big Show?). Rey on the other hand is just whatever now... but him fighting Vince McMahon's favorite children is not how he's best utilized.