Eugene

[MVP]

From the newsboard:

Reports indicate that OVW talent Nick Dinsmore is working dark matches as the wrestler "Eugene." WWE is hoping to debut Eugene on TV in the near future. Eugene's character who loves wrestling, and is baed on Warren from the movie; There's Something About Mary.

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Well I'm anxious to see what happens if Dinsmore does appear on RAW or Smackdown as "Eugene." There's a possibility that it could offend a few people, but then again if the burning buildings during Kane's intro at WMXX didn't offend people then who knows about this.

[faust34]

oh goodie, beaver cleavage 2004

[BigDaddyCool]

I smell wrestlecrap.

[Boondock Saint]

I know Dinsmore and Conway were a tag team, but for those that know a lot about them, who was the better of the two?

I guess we'll wait and see how this plays out.

[MVP]

P.S. I'm going to mark out if he says "have you seen my baseball?"

Or "frank and beans!"

[Loose Cannon]

Has anyone seen my baseball

Have you seen my...Wiener. HAHA

[Loose Cannon]

P.S. I'm going to mark out if he says "have you seen my baseball?"

Or "frank and beans!"

dam, got that in before me.

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

I've never seen that movie - who is "Warren"?

Seems to me that a wrestler with a persona based off of a character from a comedy film from several years ago is doomed to failure though.

[Loose Cannon]

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[Stickman]

Yup, this will suck

[The CyNick]

I wonder why they waste a piece of talent like Dinsmore with a gimmick that is doomed to fail. Why not give it to a guy with no talent likt Jon Heindereich or something.

morons.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I wonder why they waste a piece of talent like Dinsmore with a gimmick that is doomed to fail. Why not give it to a guy with no talent likt Jon Heindereich or something.

morons.


Probably cause Nick already has a nice fan base. They can't have someone who fans already like come in and take heat away from HHH, Taker and Hardcore ya know.

[PureHatred]

A rasslin retard. yay.

[road doggy dogg]

Wow this is going to fail horribly.

[Heyman]

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LOL.

To be honest, I'm a little intrigued with this gimmick. It's not a "main-event" gimmick obviously (and so there would have to be a gimmick change for the future if the WWE have intentions of pushing Dunsmore as a main-eventer), but I think it could be decent initially.

Think of Val Venis' pornstar gimmick. It was doomed to fail (in terms of Val using that gimmick to become a main-eventer), but it was pretty decent for the SHORT term in garnerning interest. Val received respectable face heat for over a year because of the gimmick.

The WWE can always change Dunsmore's gimmick at a later date.

[The CyNick]

LOL.

To be honest, I'm a little intrigued with this gimmick. It's not a "main-event" gimmick obviously (and so there would have to be a gimmick change for the future if the WWE have intentions of pushing Dunsmore as a main-eventer), but I think it could be decent initially.

Think of Val Venis' pornstar gimmick. It was doomed to fail (in terms of Val using that gimmick to become a main-eventer), but it was pretty decent for the SHORT term in garnerning interest. Val received respectable face heat for over a year because of the gimmick.

The WWE can always change Dunsmore's gimmick at a later date.

Val Venis was doomed to fail? huh?

Val was just an updated version of Rick Rude, which was an over gimmick. Yeah he had to tweak it to main event, but it wasn't the kind of gimmick that made him look like a moron. It was a gimmick that showed he got chicks, which is never bad.

The problem with this Dinsmore gimmick is that he is going to be portrayed as a moron, which isn't good. With this gimmick he's basically going to have to say that he was just faking in order to get into the WWE, which is always horrible.

Like I said before, why not use this gimmick with a guy with no talent?

[Aussie Skier]

Has anyone seen my baseball

Have you seen my...Wiener. HAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA]

Ah thats a pisser!
makes me wanna **** this essay off and watch the movie again.

[Heyman]

Val Venis was doomed to fail? huh?

Val was just an updated version of Rick Rude, which was an over gimmick. Yeah he had to tweak it to main event, but it wasn't the kind of gimmick that made him look like a moron. It was a gimmick that showed he got chicks, which is never bad.

The problem with this Dinsmore gimmick is that he is going to be portrayed as a moron, which isn't good. With this gimmick he's basically going to have to say that he was just faking in order to get into the WWE, which is always horrible.

Like I said before, why not use this gimmick with a guy with no talent?

You have a point...........I'm not neccessarily disagreeing with you.

Just the childish mark in me thinks it would be funny if a 'retard' started annihalting his opponents with a series of technical wrestling moves. :shifty:

[#1-norm-fan]

I dunno. I like the thought of some of the lower card guys having "wacky" gimmicks like they did back in the day. We'll just have to see how this one turns out though.

[Rock Bottom]

LOL at this gimmick idea. He must have just cracked up some writer or something. WTF?

[SeanMC]

And your new intercontrinitental champion...Eugene!..I will crack up when i here those words! ROFL... this guys doomed.

[Rock Bottom]

LOL he will tag with Kane.

[SeanMC]

Maybe he could tag with rico?Ahahahhaa, now that would be funny.

[Mister Sinister]

*imagines the soon to be funny, ways he tries to hulk himself up when he is in rest holds and submissions*

[loopydate]

I smell wrestlecrap.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

I smell wrestlecrap.

[KillerWolf]

Val Venis was doomed to fail? huh?

Val was just an updated version of Rick Rude, which was an over gimmick. Yeah he had to tweak it to main event, but it wasn't the kind of gimmick that made him look like a moron. It was a gimmick that showed he got chicks, which is never bad.

The problem with this Dinsmore gimmick is that he is going to be portrayed as a moron, which isn't good. With this gimmick he's basically going to have to say that he was just faking in order to get into the WWE, which is always horrible.

Like I said before, why not use this gimmick with a guy with no talent?
i may be missing your point, but in 2004 i would DEFINITELY rather watch Morely than Val Venis.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'm not gonna trash it yet. We haven't even SEEN it. It might be pretty entertaining.

[loopydate]

I'm not gonna trash it yet. We haven't even SEEN it. It might be pretty entertaining.

It's a wrestler. Who's based on a character from "There's Something About Mary." This will be bad.

[KingofOldSchool]

Maybe to follow up on this "There's Something About Mary" angle, have Stacy Keibler play "Eugene's" sister. Then have Rob Conway turn face and play Ben Stiller's character in the movie. Befriend both of them and Conway and "Eugene" can form a tag team.

Hey I'm just trying to get Conway and Dinsmore paired up as a tag team. :shifty:

[The Naitch]

lol at him tagging with Kane

[The Mackem]

I thought it said that it is "thought" that it will be based on the guy from Something about Mary. I wonder if it might be leaning more towards Adam Sandler's character from Waterboy.

I can't remember Warren from TSAM liking wrestling.

[Sensei Of Mattitude]

Eugene is my new favorite wrestler. And no, I am not kidding.

[The CyNick]

i may be missing your point, but in 2004 i would DEFINITELY rather watch Morely than Val Venis.

Heyman basically said the Val Venis gimmick was stupid and limiting or whatever.

My point is that with Val, while some may think its a stupid the gimmick, it didn't hurt him becuase the gimmick itself wasn't negative. The gimmick was Val is a porn star and gets laid a lot. Thats a positive in my book. Whereas with this Dinsmore gimmick they will be making up to be moron, I dont see how he can recover form that. Other than basically saying at some point that he was playing a character, which is usually suicide in wrestling.

[BLaZeR-]

Maybe to follow up on this "There's Something About Mary" angle, have Stacy Keibler play "Eugene's" sister. Then have Rob Conway turn face and play Ben Stiller's character in the movie. Befriend both of them and Conway and "Eugene" can form a tag team.

Hey I'm just trying to get Conway and Dinsmore paired up as a tag team. :shifty:

:rofl:

[tucsonspeed6]

Now come on guys...Wrestling retards have gotten over in the past. Just look at Scott Steiner and Goldberg.

Seriously, though, what about Bubba Ray Dudley? When he came to the WWF he had to slap himself in the back of the head to stop stuttering. The retard gimmick will pass and he'll move onto other things.

[The Naitch]

yeah, but Bubba has gotten the rub from being in a tag team. He sucked and annoyed me as a solo wrestler...

[Corkscrewed]

That and we'll get some comedy. Though this is a throwback to the 80s characters...

They might surprise us, though, like they did with Bradshaw.

[tucsonspeed6]

yeah, but Bubba has gotten the rub from being in a tag team. He sucked and annoyed me as a solo wrestler...


Me too. I think he annoyed everyone, but with me it was personal because he looks like my friend who is lazy and won't get a job because the unemployment checks pay for everything he wants.

[CanAmConnection]

I guess I'll reserve judgement, but I'm already doubtful that this gimmick will fly.


BTW, this is my first post. I've been reading these boards for a few weeks and decided to jump on in. So, hello to all.

[Gerard]

It kinda reminds me of that nerdy guy that used to accompany the bushwhackers, can't remember his name offhand. Wwe sure can churn out some crap\recycled gimmicks though.

[KingofOldSchool]

Jameson!!! :love:

[Gerard]

Jameson!!! :love:


Oh yeah thats it, wonder whatever happened him. Probably being sodomised by the genius still after that vicious boot to the shin. :wtf: :shifty:

[Champion of Europa]

I weep for OVW.

[Heyman]

Heyman basically said the Val Venis gimmick was stupid and limiting or whatever.



No.

I wasn't trying to imply that the Val Venis gimmick was 'stupid'. I do however, believe that it would've been impossible for Val Venis to become a MAIN-EVENTER with that gimmick (or atleast be accepted amongst the fans as a main-eventer with that gimmick).

In terms of getting initial attention however, I think Val Venis' gimmick was excellent. It was unique (to some degree), and it got him a lot of attention.

If the WWE had intentions of pushing Val as a main-eventer however, then a new gimmick was needed (which is one reason why they always changed Val's gimmick when he made his heel turns).

Is Dunsmore's gimmick stupid? Yes.........one could definitely argue that. However.......can this gimmick potentially get him INITIAL attention? (due to the uniqueness and comedy associated with it). Yes. Is this a 'gimmick' that one could use as a main-eventer? No. HOWEVER..........he can always have a gimmick change. Wrestlers have done this all the time. Triple H has re-invented himself on numerous occassions. Stone Cold used to be the Ring Master. Edge has re-invented himself,........as did Buh Buh Ray Dudley when he dropped the stuttering. Not too long ago, Dave Batista was Deacon Batista.


The CyNick - you argue that perhaps a 'less talanted' wrestler should get a gimmick like this.

I have to say the following to that - how many times do you see a talanted wrestlers (with no gimmick or a 'bland' gimmick) get held back because of that? Time after time again, we have seen great WRESTLERS get held back due to a 'bland' gimmick. Think about guys like Dean Malenko for instance. Think about Lance Storm.


My opinion - give this gimmick a shot. At worst, the WWE can always change it.........and the fans won't give a sh</>it, just as they didn't with Triple H, Austin, Batista, etc.