was nu-metal the most retrospectively regrettable genre since the 80s?

[The Mask]

i mean seriously the 80s had your cock rock and a bunch of synth/drum machine/epic reverb on your snare type songs that have dated horribly in the process, and have become quite laughable since. now it seems everyone is looking back at nu-metal and sighing a collective "what the fuck were we thinking?"

it also seems to have dropped off the face of the earth as a popular genre this past few years, and i think the only band to come out of that era with any respect still intact would be deftones, since they were a bit more musical and different to your korns and limpbizkits etc in that their lyrics were a little bit more subtle than a brick to the face, unlike every other nu-metal band whose defining trait would be to make lyrics laughably blunt. plus it is the genre that gave us fred durst.

[The Destroyer]

Now who'll admit to actually liking it at the time? Anyone?

It certainly did produce some absolutely horrible bands who really didn't deserve the spotlight. Give it 30 years and everyone will be looking back on it as the greatest musical genre of our time. :(

[DaveWadding]

I think that faggy dance music shit is worse than nu-metal. (Hi Gertie!)

[Ogen]

Detones aren't nu-metal surely

[Sixx]

I love me some 80s Hard Rock. The only musical genres I can`t stand are nu-metal, techno, and punk. To quote Ozzy - ''It`s like kicks straight to your brain''.

[bigdaddysuperfreak]

I dont think that way, sure Limp Bizcut bacame laughable but when they first came out everyone loved them, and how could you pan earlier Korn?

[bigdaddysuperfreak]

I love me some 80s Hard Rock. The only musical genres I can`t stand are nu-metal, techno, and punk. To quote Ozzy - ''It`s like kicks straight to your brain''.
80s hard rock is so shitty, its all the same preprocessed crap with different names.

[ron the dial]

i enjoyed a wide variety of nu-metal at the beginning of its popularity

i most definitely regret that decision. nah, not really, but i certainly don't listen to it nowadays for anything more than a life.

[Sixx]

80s hard rock is so shitty, its all the same preprocessed crap with different names.


Says a guy with Superfreak as his avatar. Seriously though, I don`t give a shit whether you like it or not, it`s my choice of music that I don`t care if you agree with. I used to listen to Black Metal when I was like 14 so by all measures it`s a step forward.

[Gertner]

Techno > you

[ron the dial]

lol wide variety of nu-metal

what was i thinking when i picked those words

[bigdaddysuperfreak]

Says a guy with Superfreak as his avatar. Seriously though, I don`t give a shit whether you like it or not, it`s my choice of music that I don`t care if you agree with. I used to listen to Black Metal when I was like 14 so by all measures it`s a step forward.
You stated your opinion and I stated mine, no need to get defensive like I spit in your face because I didnt even attack you personally. And congrats on listening to black metal at age 14 since you think that matters at all.

[Rammsteinmad]

Deftones have any respect? Meh...

I was never a fan of nu metal itself (at that time I was into Metallica, Megadeth and just starting my journey into progressive rock/metal) but I did like one or two songs from bands.

[Funky Fly]

Nu metal only seems to be associated with sports these days. Promo vids, highlight reels, ufc intros and WWE in general are all about the nu-metal still.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Deftones kick ass. I would not sully them with the label, "Nu metal."

Anyways, i think Soulfly were labelled nu-metal and they brought, and still bring, the shit.

[Rammsteinmad]

Are Linkin Park still considered Nu Metal? I remember when they came out they were all metal etc and people loved 'em, but now they seem like some boy band.

[Kris P Lettus]

I like(d) nu-metal.. But I liked it before it became popular, like original hardcore.. Biohazard, Anthrax, etc..

I still listen to metal/hip hip shit so the genre still interests me..

[bigdaddysuperfreak]

I like(d) nu-metal.. But I liked it before it became popular, like original hardcore.. Biohazard, Anthrax, etc..

I still listen to metal/hip hip shit so the genre still interests me..
Agreed but you forgot to mention Sick of it All.

[thecc]

Agreed but you forgot to mention Sick of it All.Seriously, one of the best hardcore bands ever.

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[bigdaddysuperfreak]

Also I would say Disco was one of the most regrettable genres. There has never been a numetal demolition night.
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[Hornicane]

Not gonna lie, I loved a lot of the nu-metal bands.

I'll still throw on the Bizkit when I'm playing beer pong or whatnot.

[Hornicane]

Why would I admit to that? :nono:

[Blitz]

Linkin Park remains one of my favourite bands.

[Skippord]

the only thing I have to say here is how much I love Deftones

[Fabien Barthez]

I still have love for Korn. Slipknot too.

would System of a Down be considered Nu? If so, then they are unquestionably the best band to be of a product of Nu-Metal.

[Bad Company]

Linkin Park remains one of my favourite bands.
Yeah me too.
Don't regard Deftones or SOAD as Nu-Metal though, they both rock.

[Sixx]

I like(d) nu-metal.. But I liked it before it became popular, like original hardcore.. Biohazard, Anthrax, etc..

I still listen to metal/hip hip shit so the genre still interests me..


C`mon , Anthrax ain`t no nu-metal.

[The Mask]

i sort of liked korn up until after issues. issues was like 40% good and the first album was nearly all good and the second was pretty shit apart from good god. third one was ok but a little too not metal for the most part. i brought them up cause the lyrical content had no subtlety, not because i think they were utter gash.

straight after issues everything they did was an utter fucking turd burger though.

[The Mask]

also i think system and deftones are bands that are unfairly lumped in there, but they were from around that era and they aren't straight ahead metal so they're close enough to fit.

[Hornicane]

Linkin Park remains one of my favourite bands.

Also, this. Seen them twice. :)

[RP]

I liked Limp Bizkit's first 2 albums. Still do. Love Counterfit.

[GD]

Linkin Park remains one of my favourite bands.

:y:

[Vastardikai]

Are Linkin Park still considered Nu Metal? I remember when they came out they were all metal etc and people loved 'em, but now they seem like some boy band.

Funny thing to me is, I never liked them. I saw the first video and immediately thought "Nsync with Guitars." To the point where my buddies & I referred to them as Nsync-in Park.

As for SOAD, they were Nu-Metal at one point, and have one of the two standard bands that link them to the genre (in their case Mr. Bungle, the other being Faith No More). I would say they're more along the lines of Progressive Metal/Rock at this point.

Mudvayne was lame until they wiped the clown makeup off of their face and went straight Hard-Rock. Hell Yeah! has better guitars, though.

Honestly, I liked some Nu-Metal at the time (early Korn, Shuvel, Primer 55, Reveille, first LB album, would Machine Head count?), but I pretty much grew out of the faze. I enjoy the cheesiness of Hair Metal now. But I prefer Southern Metal, Melodic Death Metal, and some Power Metal (but not Dragon Force, aka the band that masturbates with their guitar.)

[Anybody Thrilla]

I really would need a more clear definition of nu-metal before I could call it the most regrettable genre since the 80's. Either way, I like a lot of the bands mentioned in this thread. If you were my age when Limp Bizkit and Korn first came on the scene, chances are you thought they were amazing. Granted, I was in the seventh grade or so. Also, Three Dollar Bill, Ya'll is a fantastic album, no matter how faggoty Fred Durst would later become.

There were also some bands like Nonpoint, Reveille, and Insolence who I really liked, but they weren't as popular as some of the aforementioned bands. Is it possible that just like pretty much every other genre, the mainstream stuff is the worst of it all?

This thread in itself is sort of making me chuckle because it's like "nu metal was ridiculous, except for...." and then we're rattling off more than a handful of decent bands. Then somebody else will be like "but that's not nu-metal" in an effort to justify their favorite bands. I don't think nu-metal is such a horrible label, considering.

[Kris P Lettus]

C`mon , Anthrax ain`t no nu-metal.

Anthrax was doing rap/rock well before bands like Limp Bizkit came around..

[bigdaddysuperfreak]

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[Kris P Lettus]

One of the first metal/rap mash-ups..

Which is exactly what "nu-metal" tried to be..

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[Anybody Thrilla]

I've seen Nonpoint five times live and met them twice. Awesome band, nice guys. "Bullet With a Name" is off of To the Pain which is pretty decent, but I prefer Statement and Development.

[bigdaddysuperfreak]

I havent heard those albums, im gonna check em out

[bigdaddysuperfreak]

Who can forget this?
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[Kris P Lettus]

YES

they also did this

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[bigdaddysuperfreak]

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[Kris P Lettus]

Loud Records put out a compilation album that used all their "rock" bands, helping their "rap" acts cover rap songs called "Loud Rocks".. It had Wu Tang, S.O.A.D., Xibit, Mobb Deep, Everlast, MOP, Ozzy, The Liks, etc etc etc..

Awesome album..

http://www.amazon.com/Loud-Rocks-Various-Artists/dp/B00004XSTZ

[bigdaddysuperfreak]

Yep I had that cd used to jam that shit before playing deck hockey

[Kris P Lettus]

Hell yeah, I used to listen to it while working out..

[Kane Knight]

Regrettable. :lol:

Nah. Most Nu-Metal is shit, but it's only because it's disposable pop, like 80% of music is in the first place. It sells because it resonates with the public for some brief moment in time. It's no more regrettable than any other genre, except in the sense that it was made up as a catch-all (which is why Kripsy's calling Anthrax Nu-Metal, because most of the definitions were so pointless they applied to any group who ever blended rock and rap...).

[Mooияakeя™]

I liked one or two songs that would be classed as nu-metal, but still love Linkin Park, who have obviously adapted better than others of that time.

Also, I :heart: 80's. Insane to some, Iconic to me. There's lots of shit yes, but even some of that shit is better than the wank we have today. Pop songs of the 80's worked. Now it's just "you have to be this age", "you have to sing what we sing" etc. S.A.W brought the 80's pop scene the a close over here and started that whole. "ANYONE" can sing shit on a mass scale :(

[GD]

Linkin Park have evolved a lot. Minute 2 Midnight sounded way different than their previous releases. They did a decent performance of the "Wish" song. (well not as good as the original but above average)

[Funky Fly]

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That is by far one of the worst songs ever to infest my ear cavities.

[GD]

Hear it all the time on my PS2 while playing SVR 07.

[bigdaddysuperfreak]

That is by far one of the worst songs ever to infest my ear cavities.
You sir are an ignoramus.

[Kane Knight]

That is by far one of the worst songs ever to infest my ear cavities.

It's pretty terrible, yeah. I remember hearing that all the time on SVR.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Fuck nu-metal!

Put some Pig Destroyer on, instead!

[rez]

i mean seriously the 80s had your cock rock and a bunch of synth/drum machine/epic reverb on your snare type songs that have dated horribly in the process, and have become quite laughable since. now it seems everyone is looking back at nu-metal and sighing a collective "what the fuck were we thinking?"

it also seems to have dropped off the face of the earth as a popular genre this past few years, and i think the only band to come out of that era with any respect still intact would be deftones, since they were a bit more musical and different to your korns and limpbizkits etc in that their lyrics were a little bit more subtle than a brick to the face, unlike every other nu-metal band whose defining trait would be to make lyrics laughably blunt. plus it is the genre that gave us fred durst.

-.-

[drave]

Deftones are in no way, nu-metal. "Alternative".




Fred Durst is my dad

[Fignuts]

PLAY THAT FUCKIN TRACK

[drave]

PLAY THAT FUCKIN TRACK!