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Who is/was the best heel? I'm not talking about "I love that guy, he's great in the heel role." IE: Edge.
I'm talking a heel that you absolutely hate because of the things the character does/did. They could be a really great worker, but you feel (as close as possible to) genuine hate for them.
Triple Naitch
05-05-2009, 01:23 AM
Well, they have to be a member of the Cool Heels social group.
Triple Naitch
05-05-2009, 01:24 AM
Growing up, I hated Hollywood Hogan, Justin Credible, and Raven.
Nark Order
05-05-2009, 02:00 AM
Raven was the most evil motherfucker on the planet and there were many times as a child that I prayed for his death. Raven/Sandman and Raven/Tommy seriously made me want to find Raven somewhere and kill him. Like I would've cut his fucking head off.
The Genius
05-05-2009, 02:08 AM
ravishing rick rude
Mr. Nerfect
05-05-2009, 02:21 AM
I'm actually trying to think of one. Paul Heyman really made him hate him back before I had an appreciate for how awesome he was. And I've got to give it to him, for right or wrong reasons, Triple H really earned my disapproval when he was a heel. Normally it was because he was burying guys and was boring to watch, but when someone beat him, I was so happy.
Lock Jaw
05-05-2009, 02:26 AM
Jay Bee El
Ted Dibiase (Sr) and Bobby Heenan - can't split them.
Absolutely despised/loved them.
redoneja
05-05-2009, 03:02 AM
I feel an intense dislike for Jack Swagger. I'm not sure why though. It could be that stupid fucking smile.
jony lions
05-05-2009, 03:44 AM
austin the bitch loved watchin bret kick his ass
SammyG
05-05-2009, 03:57 AM
austin the bitch loved watchin bret kick his ass
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SIDRA
05-05-2009, 06:36 AM
Triple H - He made being a bad guy cool. He was such a bastard, for so long, that the crowd started to cheer for him when he would do evil shit. Love it.
HHH's first reign as the World Heavyweight Champion made he hate him a lot.
I even started to hate Brock when beat the holy hell out of Zack Gowen in front of his mother :(
Mr. Nerfect
05-05-2009, 08:33 AM
I feel an intense dislike for Jack Swagger. I'm not sure why though. It could be that stupid fucking smile.
Jack Swagger started off that way with me. At first, he was just a guy doing squashes, so while that put him more at the heel side of things, it didn't really pigeon-hold him into the role. Then, however, he moved onto beating definite faces, and then had that feud with Tommy Dreamer.
What I didn't like was how he just seemed like the arrogant jock-type. But during his feud with Tommy Dreamer, he became a really loathable asshole. There was no real reason the guy should be talking about Tommy Dreamer's kids being failures because of who his father is, or how his wife is going to leave him because of such, but Swagger did it, and it turned up the heat on him good.
Now he's eased back into his arrogant jock mold a bit, but interfering in Christian vs. Tommy Dreamer was such an unneccessary heel thing to do, and the crowd gave him shit for it. Awesome.
Mr. Nerfect
05-05-2009, 08:35 AM
Dolph Ziggler is someone that I am starting to see as a really good heel, albeit on a much lower level than some of the guys mentioned. In his match with MVP, he just seemed like a sleazeball that could get away with him. When MVP just casually back elbowed him while he was checking on Sherri Shepherd also made him seem a bit outclassed to a degree, whilst the rest of the match put him back into it.
Ziggler just seems like a heel who can get his ass kicked, which makes it justifiable to call him a waste or whatever (in a kayfabe sense), but then he can also win matches, which just makes you want to see him get his ass kicked more. If that makes sense?
Eddie Guerrero was always a great "love to hate" heel.
That would go to Raven he was just such a devious asshole and the way he went about it was awesome he wasnt greedy or evil in the classical sense of a heel. I always think of him as a mix of kevin sullivan and Triple H. But I think Paul Heymen summed him up best as the "David Koresh of wrestling"
Nicky Fives
05-05-2009, 12:58 PM
"Ravishing" Rick Rude
Zeeboe
05-05-2009, 01:37 PM
Those terrorist Arab guys from 2005. I don't even remember their names. Daviri or however it's spelled, and the other guy. I don't recall his name, don't care to recall his name. I seriously hated those guys so much. Anytime I heard their theme music, and I'd hear that weird Arab man yelling over the P.A., I'd sigh, curse, and wanna change the channel. I wanted to hurt those guys. I mean, I was 22 and those fellas actually turned me into a mark. I realize it was all a show, and they were playing characters....but I didn't care! I truly hated them! And I didn't want to see or listen to them! They pissed me off so much. And when Hulk Hogan came out to Real American to kick some terrorist ass, I wanted to cry tears of join. I know some smarks bitched about Hogan and HBK not jobbing to them, but screw that! People were waiting months to see those terrorists get their asses kicked!
I was glad when WWE booted them out. I thought the whole gimmick was in very poor taste. It was way too real. And cashing in 9/11 was pretty low.
Lock Jaw
05-05-2009, 03:54 PM
The Hassan gimmick was awesome. And for the most part, all he did was tel the truth and people booed him for it.
Futhermore, it AYYYYLEEEEAHHHHAYLEEEEEEEAHAYYYYYYYYLEEEEEEEEAAAA!!
Dammit, Hassan!
Zen v.W.o.
05-05-2009, 03:59 PM
The thing is, I really like great heels. Always have. I'm drawn to the bad/dark side.
Piper was the biggest heel there was, causing riots and enraging enough people to the point he was stabbed by some of those very people..but in the end the guy was so charismatic and hilarious that it didnt take long for him to then become perhaps one of the most loved guys there was.
Piper was the very first wrestler I ever became a big time fan of, and remains to this day one of my faves. Top 3.
But yeah, the guy was a massive heel and really didnt need any sort of gimmick or anything to incite hatred out of people.
Lord-Of-Darkness
05-05-2009, 06:02 PM
Back when Triple H initially turned on DX for the Corporation. I was a mark and hated him so much for turning on DX.
I think if I was a kid or a total mark now, I'd hate Jericho. But at this stage, he's my favourite guy to watch on any of the shows.
Mooияakeя™
05-05-2009, 06:05 PM
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Mooияakeя™
05-05-2009, 06:05 PM
FFS, DiBiase's was given loads of cash from the WWF Offices and he was deliberately booked on first-class flights. He was booked into 5-star hotels and given loads of money to throw around in public (i.e. pick up tabs and over tip, buy drinks for entire bars, actually pay for small items with a $100 bill, etc.) in order to make the character seem more real!
His laugh, his mic skills, his general look, the million dollar belt. Damn, I don't even remember being a face ffs.
Lord-Of-Darkness
05-05-2009, 06:07 PM
Yeah, read about that in his book. Which btw was an awesome read. One of the better ones I've read.
But yeah, Dibiase is definately up there with the best heels.
Lord-Of-Darkness
05-05-2009, 06:09 PM
I don't think DiBiase was a face during the Million Dollar Man days, from singles wrestler, to Money Inc., to commentary and management. He always had the heel thing going. But tbh, I just don't think the character would have allowed for a beleivable face run.
Mr. Nerfect
05-05-2009, 10:03 PM
The Hassan gimmick was awesome. And for the most part, all he did was tel the truth and people booed him for it.
Futhermore, it AYYYYLEEEEAHHHHAYLEEEEEEEAHAYYYYYYYYLEEEEEEEEAAAA!!
Dammit, Hassan!
That is why I cannot for the life of my list Muhammad Hassan or Chris Jericho here. Both characters were too awesome to really boo, and in the case of Hassan and Jericho's most recent persona, they are right.
How can you hate a guy who is right? An idiot hates a guy who is right. All Hassan said was that he was born in America, that he loves this country, and he was hurt by 9/11 too, but you still call him a terrorist based only on his race. *USA chants*
That character was way too advanced for WWE audiences. Especially because the commentators had no clue how to handle it. They treated him like he was a foreign heel, which wasn't the case.
Mr. Nerfect
05-05-2009, 10:06 PM
I never watched during his run, but I fucking love the Million Dollar Man. I'm sorry, but if I had started watching wrestling when he was around, I'd so be hoping he beat Hulk Hogan. I'd be disappointed every time, but come on -- the guy can wrestle, he's got a nice guy look about him, he's got an awesome laugh, and he's got money that he throws around! What's not to love about that man?
Ironballs
05-06-2009, 03:24 PM
I think if I was a kid or a total mark now, I'd hate Jericho. But at this stage, he's my favourite guy to watch on any of the shows.
My feelings exactly.
Probably the last guy I legitimately disliked as a heel was Austin after Wrestlemania XVI. The manner in which he won the title, his alliance with Vince, and his cowardly, paranoid demeanor portrayed him as the personification of a hypocrite.
Of course, I came to love and appreciate him in that role, just like everyone else. The guy was just too much fun to watch.
The 'What!?' catchphrase probably didn't help, either.
That is why I cannot for the life of my list Muhammad Hassan or Chris Jericho here. Both characters were too awesome to really boo, and in the case of Hassan and Jericho's most recent persona, they are right.
How can you hate a guy who is right? An idiot hates a guy who is right.
I would agree with you if it weren't for the segment with Vince/ Stephanie. It basically turned him into what he had been against in the first place. Who is he to call anyone a hypocrite or sycophant at this point? He's the definition of the words.
Lock Jaw
05-06-2009, 03:57 PM
Seriously, JBL.
I think the last time I actually wanted to see a heel champ get his comeuppance was with JBL. All the other heel champs that have come afterwards have been "yeah! cool!"
DAMN iNATOR
05-06-2009, 04:27 PM
WWE's best heel I would have to give slightly to:
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Zeeboe
05-06-2009, 07:02 PM
Someone on my rep said I didn't get the character, Muhammad Hassan. I did then, I do now.....and I don't care. I didn't like that gimmick. Maybe if some of you guys lost loved ones on 9/11 and/or if you are American, and love the country as much as I do could understand why people like me didn't like that character. He got people's blood boiling way too much, and it was a little too real for some of us. ("It's Still Real To Me Dammit" in regards of 9/11 is damn right) and Hassan probably would have gotten hurt by one of the fans if he kept it up.....Having them, and these ski-mask wearing dudes going out and beating up on The Undertaker or whoever it was on Smackdown, was too much. They needed to drop the angle, and I'm glad they did. Cause like or or not, WWE WAS cashing in on 9/11, and that ain't cool. Real life is not a game or an angle. Actual lives have been/are being lost over that nonsense, and feelings were being beyond hurt when Muhammad Hassan did his thing, and you don't play "pretend" with stuff like that. That's a no no.
I don't expect some of the more immature posters to get that. So go ahead and neg me if you must for this rant and for not liking that character some of you liked a little too much. Seriously, most people who marked for that guy are either non-American, or just Americans who hate their own country, or you're just immature little kids who are still in "kid world" where everything is all a game. And you see violence in real life the same way you see violence on TV, or in movies, or are your video games.
....Personally, I think Muhammad Hassan's last apperance should have been like the final scene from Death Proof....with the roles of hero belonging to Hulk Hogan, Sgt. Slaughter, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, a cameo by bad-ass American Undertaker, Kurt Angle, and hell....throw the The Patriot Del Wilks and American Express Lex Luger in there too!
Now THAT would be probably one of the greatest mark-out moments for me....ever.
DAMN iNATOR
05-06-2009, 07:17 PM
Someone on my rep said I didn't get the character, Muhammad Hassan. I did then, I do now.....and I don't care. I didn't like that gimmick. Maybe if some of you guys lost loved ones on 9/11 and/or if you are American, and love the country as much as I do could understand why people like me didn't like that character. He got people's blood boiling way too much, and it was a little too real for some of us. ("It's Still Real To Me Dammit" in regards of 9/11 is damn right) and Hassan probably would have gotten hurt by one of the fans if he kept it up.....Having them, and these ski-mask wearing dudes going out and beating up on The Undertaker or whoever it was on Smackdown, was too much. They needed to drop the angle, and I'm glad they did. Cause like or or not, WWE WAS cashing in on 9/11, and that ain't cool. Real life is not a game or an angle. Actual lives have been/are being lost over that nonsense, and feelings were being beyond hurt when Muhammad Hassan did his thing, and you don't play "pretend" with stuff like that. That's a no no.
I don't expect some of the more immature posters to get that. So go ahead and neg me if you must for this rant and for not liking that character some of you liked a little too much. Seriously, most people who marked for that guy are either non-American, or just Americans who hate their own country, or you're just immature little kids who are still in "kid world" where everything is all a game. And you see violence in real life the same way you see violence on TV, or in movies, or are your video games.
....Personally, I think Muhammad Hassan's last apperance should have been like the final scene from Death Proof....with the roles of hero belonging to Hulk Hogan, Sgt. Slaughter, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, a cameo by bad-ass American Undertaker, Kurt Angle, and hell....throw the The Patriot Del Wilks and American Express Lex Luger in there too!
Now THAT would be probably one of the greatest mark-out moments for me....ever.
Dude, your argument is so lame. You have to understand [Muhammad]Hassan and [Khosrow] Daivari are/were not even real Muslims. Hassan is originally from Italy, and the only (RETARDED) reason that he was taken off TV is because a bunch of people in the arab and/or muslim community of Dearborn (near Detroit) decided to bitch to UPN. Wah, wah fuckin' wah! Life isn't always fair.
Now, let's examine their argument that Hassan and Daivari portrayed a negative stereotype of Muslims, as every one of them being extremists who hate all Americans and only want to blow them all up or maim them in some other way. Nothing could be further from the truth. They portrayed only the extremist type Muslims who would be, or do serve someone like Bin Laden or Al'Qaeda or whatever, but even then none of it was real.
See, the problem is not with the character, it's that you percieved him as how I described him in the last paragraph. If you couldn't realize that it was only a gimmick, then instead of getting all pissed off, why didn't you turn the TV off or find something else to watch during such time as he was on camera. It's a simple solution that you couldn't find because you chose ignorance over seeing the big picture.
The One
05-06-2009, 07:31 PM
Freddie Blassie.
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Mooияakeя™
05-06-2009, 07:37 PM
Maybe the hint of html [/] threw the fact off into iweb oblivion.
I agonised over Freddie when I posted my response of Dibiase and Heenan.
I must also add that I agonised over Jesse Ventura (but that was probably more to do with his commentary work rather than his ring work).
St. Jimmy
05-06-2009, 07:40 PM
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Zeeboe
05-06-2009, 07:49 PM
Dude, your argument is so lame. You have to understand [Muhammad]Hassan and [Khosrow] Daivari are/were not even real Muslims. Hassan is originally from Italy, and the only (RETARDED) reason that he was taken off TV is because a bunch of people in the arab and/or muslim community of Dearborn (near Detroit) decided to bitch to UPN. Wah, wah fuckin' wah! Life isn't always fair.
Now, let's examine their argument that Hassan and Daivari portrayed a negative stereotype of Muslims, as every one of them being extremists who hate all Americans and only want to blow them all up or maim them in some other way. Nothing could be further from the truth. They portrayed only the extremist type Muslims who would be, or do serve someone like Bin Laden or Al'Qaeda or whatever, but even then none of it was real.
See, the problem is not with the character, it's that you percieved him as how I described him in the last paragraph. If you couldn't realize that it was only a gimmick, then instead of getting all pissed off, why didn't you turn the TV off or find something else to watch during such time as he was on camera. It's a simple solution that you couldn't find because you chose ignorance over seeing the big picture.
Like I said, lives were lost, and I don't think they should have cashed in on something like that. I got that the characters were these angry guys who were tired of some Arab-Americans being treated badly, but the 9/11 theme was still in the air, and that was not cool. It would have been like a bunch of goth guys going out after the 99' school shooting and saying they were tired of people assuming all goths were gonna blow up schools or something.
I just don't think topics like that are things you play around with.
Theo Dious
05-06-2009, 10:10 PM
That character was way too advanced for WWE audiences. Especially because the commentators had no clue how to handle it. They treated him like he was a foreign heel, which wasn't the case.
...yeah, because anyone who slanders an entire group because of something some people do, nah, that's not a heel move at all.
Theo Dious
05-06-2009, 10:12 PM
The guy aligned himself based on his ethnicity against the USA, what was SUPPOSED to happen?
Lock Jaw
05-06-2009, 10:50 PM
People were supposed to say "Hey! He's right! Give us hell, Hassan!" and then cheer him.
Mr. Nerfect
05-07-2009, 05:30 PM
...yeah, because anyone who slanders an entire group because of something some people do, nah, that's not a heel move at all.
I don't get your post at all. How does that make them a foreigner with a heel gimmick? Don't you actually have to be a foreigner for that? :roll:
Lock Jaw
05-07-2009, 05:31 PM
You don't have to be a foreigner to have a foreigner heel gimmick.
Mr. Nerfect
05-07-2009, 05:34 PM
The guy aligned himself based on his ethnicity against the USA, what was SUPPOSED to happen?
He wasn't against the USA. He was against prejudice. He loved America. He grew up watching Sesame Street, and learning English as a primary language. Then this group of select people did something horrible, and his country accused him of inhuman qualities because of his ancestry.
He was outraged by racism, ignorance and stereotypes. Yeah, what a horrible guy!
Mr. Nerfect
05-07-2009, 05:36 PM
You don't have to be a foreigner to have a foreigner heel gimmick.
No, but you have to either be playing a foreigner, or be playing someone who represents another country. Muhammad Hassan was originally from Syracuse, New York; later changed to Detroit, Michigan. Fans looked like idiots when they chanted "U-S-A!" in his presence. They totally missed what the character was saying.
Mr. Nerfect
05-07-2009, 05:45 PM
The only thing that made Hassan a heel was the ignorance of the fans, him no longer trying to reason with people that cannot be reasoned with, and towards the end of his run, playing into the stereotypes that the fans had of him.
Yeah, Hassan eventually became a typical foreign heel - but that was probably more to do with the fans' reaction to him than anything else.
Like I said, lives were lost, and I don't think they should have cashed in on something like that.
Would you not consider Angle winning the title just after 9/11 as "cashing in"? Cos I sure did! Then again, I'm not American so I couldn't possibly understand/sympathise/empathise.
Zeeboe
05-07-2009, 06:18 PM
Kurt Angle was already over insanely over at that point, so no.
Mr. Nerfect
05-09-2009, 02:15 AM
The point of Muhammad Hassan went way beyond any kind of specific culture. It was originally just about the concept of good people's fears causing them to judge irrationally. That is why the character was too smart for the WWE's writers to handle, its commentators to really talk about, and it's audience to understand. He was a good man with some flaws of his own, which is a character with too many dimensions in the black and white WWE world.
Zeeboe
05-15-2009, 01:30 PM
1997 D-Generation X was another group of heels I couldn't stand. I freaking hated them. I found them to be highly obnoxious and annoying. I wanted to see them beaten to a bloody pulp. Even now, when I look back and watch my old tapes, I can still remember the intense, and fiery hatred I had for them.
Heck, The Hart Foundation was getting cheered in America when they feuded with D-X! Bret Hart was the top bad guy who bashed the American wrestling fans for months, and yet D-Generation X was so dang irritating that the WWE marks were siding with Bret! These weren't overwhelming cheers mind you, and I think at first the fans were confused who to cheer for, and they booed both stables at different times, but overall anytime the two groups cut promos one another, it was The Hart Foundation who got cheered the loudest.
I also think D-X's return a few years back was pretty bad. They had grown very stale. In my view, what made D-Generation X so over was that Triple H and HBK had the look. They were young, so they came across as typical, smart-ass, rebellion, teenage high school boys/twenty-something year old college kids. But when they came back, they were too old looking, and came across as a bunch of old hippies trying to relive their partying days.
Plus, when D-Generation X was first born, WWE hadn't become "attitude" quite just yet, so the things they said and did were very shocking for it's time. But when they came back, the fans were use to their antics, and expected them, whereas fans in 97' were literally stunned and offended.
I will say in their defense, 1997 D-X was probably one of the greatest wrestling stables ever, were highly entertaining, and fun to hate. I hated them so much because they were that damn good. They knew how to push people's buttons where it just left fans like me speechless, shaking our heads, and glaring.
I use to hate Stone Cold Steve Austin at a time too, but when he feuded with D-X, I instantly became a huge Austin fan for life because I hated HBK that much, and I knew if anyone could give D-Generation X the well deserved karma they had coming towards them, it was the Texas Rattlesnake. And that's exactly what he did. Oh hell yeah! :)
As soon as Shawn Michaels left WWE, D-X were never really the same ever again. Especially after they became babyfaces. It was the end of a very short lived, and memorable era when Michaels retired.
Shisen Kopf
05-15-2009, 11:22 PM
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FourFifty
05-16-2009, 12:29 AM
Freddie Blassie.
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Seconded.
Seriously, people tired to FUCKING STAB HIM!!!
And replace "tried" with "made it a point to, and succeed"
Vastardikai
05-16-2009, 11:33 AM
Same with Harley Race.
Mr. Nerfect
05-17-2009, 09:54 AM
I'd love to see Triple H and Shawn Michaels get back together as a modern day heel version of DX called "The Kliq." That could be epic heat. They'd need faces to feud with, though. John Cena and Batista would probably be the two that the WWE sent, but I see the fans siding with Triple H & HBK in that one.
The Brian Kendrick is a really cool heel, if you ask me. He's small, obnoxious, full of himself, and wrestles like a weasel, chalking it up to "brains." I can see your average redneck wrestling fan wanting to see him get his shit fucked up. He's also got a lot of natural talent that he can bust out, which makes him even more dislikable as your classic "underachiever." He's good, and he knows it, but he chooses to duck and cover, pick his spots, and dance around because no one is going to be able to catch him to knock him out.
He borders on cool heel, but the way he wrestles just prevents him from truly being likeable beyond smarter fans.
Mr. Nerfect
05-17-2009, 09:55 AM
When The Brian Kendrick slapped Kane in the face on the draft show, I can imagine marks wanting to see Kane kill Spanky.
Stickman
05-17-2009, 12:29 PM
HBK
Stickman
05-17-2009, 12:30 PM
Mr. Perfect
Batista03
05-17-2009, 06:41 PM
I would have to go with Brock because I hate his ass. The best heels to me where HHH and Taker. If Cena ever went heel, he would be up there with Brock because I hate his character but he might be a cool guy though.
Batista03
05-17-2009, 06:46 PM
Edge too. I really started to hate him after watching the Matt Hardy DVD.
The Pope
05-17-2009, 07:03 PM
I Hate All the young new guys wwe brings in they think they are the shit. they can't do a promo without calling mom for advice
The Pope
05-17-2009, 07:05 PM
I always hated Jericho when he was the undisputed champion around like 2002 or something.
Then Trips came and took the title at wrestlemania 18
Droford
05-17-2009, 07:11 PM
Vince McMahon
Theo Dious
05-17-2009, 08:02 PM
He wasn't against the USA. He was against prejudice. He loved America. He grew up watching Sesame Street, and learning English as a primary language. Then this group of select people did something horrible, and his country accused him of inhuman qualities because of his ancestry.
He was outraged by racism, ignorance and stereotypes. Yeah, what a horrible guy!
I hate it when I forget that I've posted stuff for this long.
The character Hassan was playing wasn't pleading for tolerance. The message of the character was "Some Americans have been prejudiced against people of Middle-Eastern descent since 9/11, therefore if you are an American you are obviously a prejudiced bastard." He was holding the entire group responsible for the behavior of individuals. So even by your reasoning, this should make him a heel, because he did exactly what he was angry at people for doing. What didn't work about the character was that it didn't inflame people against him, it made them uncomfortable about their own feelings on the matter. Which isn't a good thing in a situation like that, because it just made them angry at the guy who was, which led to heat.
Fans looked like idiots when they chanted "U-S-A!" in his presence. They totally missed what the character was saying.
Let's see... Hassan went around accusing Americans of being prejudiced against people like him. They chanted "USA" in response because chanting "we disagree with your stated viewpoint, as you are accusing all of us of being prejudiced based on the behavior of others, and we resent that" would be horribly inefficient and hard to understand.
Basically, if the character were meant to be something other than a heel they would have had him behave in an honorable fashion in the ring, he wouldn't have issued blanket condemnations against Americans, and he wouldn't have had an angry guy yelling in a foriegn language at his side (like it or not this is a classic heel move.)
Mr. Nerfect
05-18-2009, 01:46 AM
Hassan played a heel, but I'm just saying that he was more than an anti-American heel. Also, to people in Canada, Australia, etc. he was 100% correct from our perspectives. When the WWE went to Canada early into his run, Hassan came out to a massive pop.
I don't really recall his promos, so you might even be right about what he said, but I cannot recall him saying what you said. I remember him saying that 9/11 was a crime on his country, but that people blamed his entire culture for it, and he's not going to tolerate it anymore. He got angry at JR and King for forwarding stupid American propaganda. Hassan was basically just left-wing, with a right-wing "hang them all" attitude.
His early promos were all about '... I am an ARAB... AMERICAN' like Alienoid was implying. And they still chanted 'USA! USA!'
Zeeboe
05-27-2009, 01:41 PM
I remember I hated Stone Cold Steve Austin in 1996/1997, and before he officialy became a babyface, I was distrubed by the fact that he had a such a strong fan base, and was offended anytime I saw people in the audience wearing Austin 3:16 t-shirts. When he became a face, I was use to it.
The Hart/Austin feud felt very real to me. It was so intense. It almost made me believe wrestling was real a few times, or it just felt so real, that I was able to forget it was all stagged. Looking back, in a way, it reminds me of any famous sports riviarly, especially as far as fans were concerned. I'd walk around town wearing a Bret Hart shirt, and I'd get glared at from other boys my age, and I'd return the hard look cause I honestly hated them and their hero as much as they hated me and my hero.
When I went to a WWF house show in the summer of 97', apart of me was hoping to have gotten into a fight with an Austin fan. I was 14, and full of anger like any other teen that age.
I also hated that Stone Cold turned the majority of fans against Bret Hart, and that he was making Bret's life miserable, and screwing him out of so many victories, and I couldn't understand why anyone would cheer Austin on. So by the time Bret turned heel, I was fed up as he the character was, with getting screwed over so many times, and the fans lack of support. I shared Bret's hate for Austin, and the American wrestling fans.
By 98', Austin grew on me, and most of the character he feuded with were just as evil as him, if not more evil, and there no more good guys after Bret left, and Owen Hart died, so I was okay with cheering Austin on.
Testicle
05-27-2009, 03:54 PM
-HHH because of all the squashing/burying.
-Regal because I never really liked him.
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