The Hart Trilogy Debuts

[Gertner]

D H Smith debuted interfering in Tyson Kidd v Finlay. They hit the Hart Attack on Finlay after the DQ. Anybody else mark the fuck out?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I shall tomorrow when I watch it. :y:

So, is the Unified WWE Tag Team Championship still interpromotional? Or are they just going to be an alliance that helps the other guys out. It's a shame they're not on a show with Tag Titles, and a ladies' title for Natalya to win.

I wonder if Finlay is going to bring up Sheamus O'Shaunnessy under some other name to be his tag team partner to battle them?

[Juan]

I was just gonna make a thread about it.

It was pretty awesome.

[The Genius]

definitely excited about this. going to have to find a clip of this tomorrow.

[The Genius]

YES! just watched the ending and marked out seeing the hart attack.

[Splaya]

Someone link me

[The Genius]

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/ecw/2009/may8-14/10190806

[Sovereigntywillpr]

I shall tomorrow when I watch it. :y:

So, is the Unified WWE Tag Team Championship still interpromotional? Or are they just going to be an alliance that helps the other guys out. It's a shame they're not on a show with Tag Titles, and a ladies' title for Natalya to win.

I wonder if Finlay is going to bring up Sheamus O'Shaunnessy under some other name to be his tag team partner to battle them?
Why change his name?

[jony lions]

i love the harts

[Mooияakeя™]

It ain't the Foundation 2.0 until Teddy Hart appears :shifty:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Why change his name?

Because the WWE loves giving guys names that they can "own." Unless the WWE already owns Sheamus' name. Not too sure, and can't be fucked researching. I can see them just calling him "SOS" or something. Or they'll just change his last name to "Finnegan."

[Impeccable]

That was amazing...marked out big time for that

Dave Hart-Smith....love it. Also, he doesn't look goofy anymore.

[Dave Youell]

Yeah SOS has already been getting dark matches, really wouldn't surprise me if he's on TV as early as next week

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I much prefer David Hart Smith to just DH Smith. But yeah I can definitely see Sheamus coming in for a feud.</font>

[FourFifty]

I'm not impressed.
Here you have this green kid who has about as much drawing power as CAWdy who did something on ECW. He can be the king of No One Gives A Damn castle and I'd still be "m'eh" oh DH Smith.

[Fabien Barthez]

I'm not impressed.
Here you have this green kid who has about as much drawing power as CAWdy who did something on ECW.

It was his fucking debut, he is a rising star.

You are a proper idiot. How else do you debut someone to have a relevant role? He is on ECW at that, the brand for building new stars..

CAWdy - not funny.
You - not clever.

[RP]

LOL WWE has things so ass backwards

Why are they trying to get this over on ECW? Seriously? No one is even watching ECW. Its like they put them out there to fail or something. It's like they're using ECW as a house show. This might have been big if it was someone other then Finlay and it was on Raw or Smackdown. But its on ECW. No one gives a shit. If these guys go to Raw or Smackdown, no one will remember last night at all. It makes no sense at all unless they just dont care and want them to flop. Thats the only sense it could possibly make.

Its hilarious how much of a joke WWE has become. TNA is no better ofcourse, but I expect better from WWE. They cant even properly book there product, reguardless of if its horrible or not. Essentially it really doesnt matter what kind of talent a wrestler/entertainer has. They could be the worst ever and it would'nt matter, because WWE will book them in a position that is 100% fail. They could be amazing talent, but they'll be booked as 100% fail. It doesnt matter.

Sadly this is what happens when people who run a product or industry lose touch with reality and have no clue what the fuck they are doing. You see this junk.

No one cares. It means dick.

[James Steele]

Opinions - not allowed.

[The Mackem]

Is there a video of this about?

[Fabien Barthez]

Being unimpressed because he is new and has no drawing power before his debut is hardly reasonable

[The Mackem]

Hogan wasn't built in a day

[Dave Youell]

LOL WWE has things so ass backwards

Why are they trying to get this over on ECW? Seriously? No one is even watching ECW. Its like they put them out there to fail or something. It's like they're using ECW as a house show. This might have been big if it was someone other then Finlay and it was on Raw or Smackdown. But its on ECW. No one gives a shit. If these guys go to Raw or Smackdown, no one will remember last night at all. It makes no sense at all unless they just dont care and want them to flop. Thats the only sense it could possibly make.

Its hilarious how much of a joke WWE has become. TNA is no better ofcourse, but I expect better from WWE. They cant even properly book there product, reguardless of if its horrible or not. Essentially it really doesnt matter what kind of talent a wrestler/entertainer has. They could be the worst ever and it would'nt matter, because WWE will book them in a position that is 100% fail. They could be amazing talent, but they'll be booked as 100% fail. It doesnt matter.

Sadly this is what happens when people who run a product or industry lose touch with reality and have no clue what the fuck they are doing. You see this junk.

No one cares. It means dick.


WHAT?

Surely you are kidding right? ECW has created more stars than any other brand recently, it’s the perfect place to bring in a guy to test the waters, if they epically fail, it’s better it’s on ECW rather than Raw surely? The fact that it generates lower ratings means they can take more risks with it. It makes perfect sense to have this debut on ECW, they will be allowed more time to develop, if this was on Raw they’d have 2 weeks to get over and then disappear off the face of the earth, on ECW, they could easily survive for 2 months on a slow build and establish themselves.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Is there a video of this about?
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[Zeeboe]

Haha. The Karate Kid....sweep the leg! God, I love the 80's.

Anyhow, I am a huge mark for the Harts, including the British Bulldog. Harry looks a lot like his old man. His physique and his style are very similar to his Dad's. Good for him. His Pop would have been proud. I may just have to start watching wrestling again for Smith alone.

[Hanso Amore]

I think it it shit, because there isnt a single Hart in the group.

I know Natties Mom and Davies Mom were Harts, but in name they just dont have the power to be the focal point of a Hart Re-boot. TJ has no blood ties either.

I know they fit, but to a normal fan without deep knowledge, it makes no sense.

[GD]

So does the WWE want me to forget that Cena pwned Smith?

[Zeeboe]

It's a shame Bret's sons don't want to become wrestlers.
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/ecw/2009/may8-14/10190806

My god, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to offend you fellas.....but that commentary was just plain horrible. :n: Good wrestling, and great Finley put Smith over, but the commentary was crap! I can't believe Josh from Tough Enough is still around.

They needed to act more distrubed and shocked by the whole thing, really sell the audience and put Smith over as a threat. Those guys sounded WAY too relaxed, and came across like they didn't give a shit.

[Xero]

lol when they set up the Hart Attack.

"Really?"

[Loose Cannon]

hmmm, maybe it's about time Anvil got put on the payroll again

[Zen v.W.o.]

Anvil, TEDDY mthrfckn HART.....

[Volare]

Just let Hart Foundation win the titles, thanks to a random showing of Anvil, then let Legacy feud with them for some random reason...for the love of god!

[Anybody Thrilla]

I like the potential of this new group.

Also, if nobody answered this, they said on Raw that the Unified Tag Titles can be defended on any show. Once Carlito and Primo lose those titles, they become exclusive property of Raw.

[thedamndest]

I don't want to say anything about what kind of chemistry the team has before I see them in an actual match, but I do wonder how far they will go with the current state of the tag division. Are we going to see some thrown together teams?

[loopydate]

They're a good team. I watched them when they were in FCW and they had some really good matches with some good psychology. The match where they lost the belts to Tyler Reks and Johnny Curtis was excellent.

[Gerard]

I love how absoloutely nobody in the crowd reacted to the hart attack. :foc:

[The Fonz]

I love how absoloutely nobody in the crowd reacted to the hart attack. :foc:

Since an actual Hart hasn't been in the "WWE Universe" spotlight in over a decade, that's to be expected.

They did look good, hopefully they get the Miz/Morrison treatment and get to expose themselves in all three brands.

[XL]

I know they fit, but to a normal fan without deep knowledge, it makes no sense.

I don't get this.

A normal fan without deep knowledge? Are we talking a mark? If we are then I don't see a problem. If the WWE debuted a guy, called him Tim Savage and billed him as Macho Man's son, then marks would just take it as fact that he is what they say.

So, regardless of direct bloodlines or whatever you're getting at, if the 'E says they are Harts, then, for a "normal fan without deep knowledge", they are Harts.

[Rob]

I love how this is a great WWE idea all of a sudden. This team was ready to be called up over 3 years ago!

[Triple Naitch]

I love how this is a great WWE idea all of a sudden. This team was ready to be called up over 3 years ago!

Yeah, but it's rare that they actually follow through on an idea.

[Ruien]

I don't want to say anything about what kind of chemistry the team has before I see them in an actual match, but I do wonder how far they will go with the current state of the tag division. Are we going to see some thrown together teams?

TBK and his partner, Colons, Simply Priceless, and Cryme Time (If they count). Truthfully, I am suprised Simply Priceless has not been in the hunt for the titles. Since that is what being in Legacy was suppose to be about in the beginning.

[FourFifty]

It was his fucking debut, he is a rising star.

You are a proper idiot. How else do you debut someone to have a relevant role? He is on ECW at that, the brand for building new stars..

CAWdy - not funny.
You - not clever.

Wait, we are talking about DH Smith, right?
Didn't he already have a WWE debut? Is he that unnoticeable and forgettable that you've forgotten that he already had a debut?
And please, none of this "Well it was his first match on so and such brand" because it's all the same company.

[Xero]

Didn't he have two 'debuts', not counting this one?

[Zen v.W.o.]

Wait, we are talking about DH Smith, right?
Didn't he already have a WWE debut? Is he that unnoticeable and forgettable that you've forgotten that he already had a debut?
And please, none of this "Well it was his first match on so and such brand" because it's all the same company.

lol, are you seriously gonna consider the other "debut" a fucking debut worth looking back on? He hit the ring amid 20 other guys. All the other times they decided to punish him for going against their fucking policy on drugs.

To use that for any sort of basis to be nagative on the guy is just showing your tre intentions and biased opinion, which in the end becomes null and void.

[Evil Vito]

Didn't he have two 'debuts', not counting this one?

<font color=goldenrod>Nah, his first official debut was on Raw in 2007...pretty sure they debuted him in the UK so he could get the "Davey Boy Smith's son" pop. He won a few matches, got suspended, then lost a shitload and they did nothing with him.

Then he got drafted to SmackDown where he remained until this year's draft, he never even made his SmackDown debut. :o Last night was his first television appearance since his last time on Raw.</font>

[Juan]

Wait, we are talking about DH Smith, right?
Didn't he already have a WWE debut? Is he that unnoticeable and forgettable that you've forgotten that he already had a debut?
And please, none of this "Well it was his first match on so and such brand" because it's all the same company.

Are you kidding me with this? It wasn't his WWE debut, it was his ECW debut. GTFO

[thedamndest]

That was DH Smith. This is David Hart Smith.

[Xero]

lol

[FourFifty]

lol, are you seriously gonna consider the other "debut" a fucking debut worth looking back on? He hit the ring amid 20 other guys. All the other times they decided to punish him for going against their fucking policy on drugs.

To use that for any sort of basis to be nagative on the guy is just showing your tre intentions and biased opinion, which in the end becomes null and void.

Wait, what? He had his TV (Raw) debut vs Carlito. He got busted for drugs, came back for a "second debut" where he beat Hass (on Heat), and to be honest the guy is so unremarkable that I don't know what you're talking about with him in the ring with 20 other guys.
Calling his bit on ECW a "debut" is a joke, and I just don't care for the guy.

[redoneja]

Yea, he was pretty unremarkable in his first few appearances. Kinda like that Isaac Yankem guy. Good thing they never stuck with him or anything.

[FourFifty]

Yea, he was pretty unremarkable in his first few appearances. Kinda like that Isaac Yankem guy. Good thing they never stuck with him or anything.

Everyone when they start out has room to improve. It's not like I'm saying DH will never be somebody, or fire him right now to save us some time.
And please stop with the "but he's new" line. There have been people who caught my eye who I liked right off the bat. Mr Kennedy, Carlito, Nitro, Goldust, Matt Striker, John Cena, and others over the years.
However we're so far off topic it's not funny. All I simply said to start out in this thread is that was not his debut, and I don't care for the guy. Give it a rest.

[The Mackem]

I like what they do with the up and comers on ECW.

[Fabien Barthez]

well if the technicalities of a few anonamous matches over a year ago are that important to you being right, then fine.

Fact is, it's a new role, leading into a storyline and that is a debut. One much like you discribed in the name of past eye grabbers.

And Kennedy and Cena both worked TV matches before they 'debuted'

[Fabien Barthez]

I like what they do with the up and comers on ECW.

Me too. I wish it was 90 minutes though. They should do the opening 30 minutes on WWE.com or something.

[St. Jimmy]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9f/BretHartTheSimpsons.jpg

[St. Jimmy]

Dick Head Smith.

[Ben Rodrigues]

So is it time to bring back the original Hart Foundation music?

[Volare]

I kinda like the theme they got. I mean if this is gonna be the next-gen Hart Foundation, then sadly we must part ways with the old school. (Even though I am a fan of it too.)

[Kane Knight]

I can't wait until they stick it to the chairmanual.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't like the name David Hart Smith, I will be honest. Like the team, though. Looking forward to an eventual match with The Colons. It's a shame that Natalya can't really go after a ladies' title, though (although I am sure that won't stop the WWE).