New WWE Submission PPV

[Mooияakeя™]

WWE sent out emails to some members of the “WWE Universe” today. In this email, the fans were asked to respond to questions to help name a future WWE event, which would feature submission matches for all main event matches on the show. Here were the listed potential names for the event:

* WWE Total Submission
* WWE Submission Sunday
* WWE Breaking Point
* WWE Submit & Quit

So...... What's your thoughts on the concept and the names??? Also, poll is up, which is ur best out of them.

If anything, Breaking Point is the best imo, but ffs. Just let people suggest names and vote on the best 10 or something. Fuck Submission Sunday, sounds like Cyber Sunday. I mean, where is the thought behind this?

[Rammsteinmad]

I actually think Total Submission if pretty cool, if it was a submission themed PPV.

[Testicle]

Breaking point is the only option that doesn't sound completely retarded. But I do believe that having a ppv built around a gimick match is retarded. (TNA Lockdown anyone?)

[Xero]

I don't like the idea of a submission-themed PPV. It would get redundant, like Lock Down.

And, I mean, who is even submission-oriented anymore? Seriously, can't think of anyone in the WWE.

This should have happened about ten years ago, not now.

[Xero]

Although, maybe Ryan Cock got his messages mixed and it's actually for a WWE 24/7 show/DVD. In that case it's fine.

Edit: Never mind, "Submission Sunday" shoots down that thought.

This is a stupid idea.

[KaliKot]

They should call it WWE Tapout

[IC Champion]

I don't like the idea of a submission-themed PPV. It would get redundant, like Lock Down.

And, I mean, who is even submission-oriented anymore? Seriously, can't think of anyone in the WWE.

This should have happened about ten years ago, not now.

I agree with this statement.

[Nicky Fives]

meh.... as long as I don't have to see Cena attempt to apply an STF on someone and have them tap, I'm all for the idea..... Total Submission works for me

[Hanso Amore]

Maybe Punk would finally start doing the Anaconda Vice again, which was 10 times better than the GTS, and he never uses it anymore

[Outsider]

What a great idea. Lets have all the members of the roster suddenly learn one submission move each for a month.

Christ, it would be such a boring three hours. Submission matches can be great with two good workers, but watching something like Umaga vs Khali to a submission? It's a thought that sends shivers down my spine.....

[#1-norm-fan]

Umaga vs. Punk in a submission match sounds amazing for some reason. Like... they build up the ridiculous thought of Punk never being able to make Umaga submit and then after a good, long match, he locks on the Anaconda Vice and after like a minute, minute and a half of trying to get out, Umaga starts to slowly pass out and taps. Makes Punk look a million bucks.

It reminds me of Umaga vs. Cena a few years ago at the Rumble. Fucking loved that match.

[Xero]

meh.... as long as I don't have to see Cena attempt to apply an STF on someone and have them tap, I'm all for the idea..... Total Submission works for me

So I guess you wouldn't be for it.

[Dorkchop]

Breaking Point is a cool name for a PPV. As lame as these are Tap Out or Tapped Out or Ye Old Tappe Out, would probably all work. Can't be any worse than Taboo Tuesday.

[Dave Youell]

What if they were to make some of the Sub matches gimmicky?

Like a falls count anywhere type thing where you can make them tap anywhere in the building

A 2 out of 3 taps match

I quit is surely an option

Add a Womens match and a tag and you've got a PPV with enough difference to make it semi interesting

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm very curious about the idea. It seems like they're not even thinking about making every match a Submission Match. It'd just be your main events. Edge and CM Punk could pull off a damn fine Submisison Match, I think. Edge has started using the Sharpshooter, and Punk could bring back to Anaconda Vice to go after the neck of Edge.

As Dave said, there are modified versions of the Submission Match to shake the PPV up. There's a regular Submission Match, an I Quit Match, Ultimate Submission.

Also, WWE Submit & Quit. :lol:

[Savio]

Doesn't TNA have a PPV called breaking Point? or was that UFC? that one sounds good but its been used before.

Also not every match would be submission just The main events

[Mr. Nerfect]

TNA has Turning Point.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I'm a really big fan of submission wrestling so I adore the concept, I just wish they had the roster to actually pull it off.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The WWE has the roster, they just don't let their roster implement a submission moveset.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

The WWE has the roster, they just don't let their roster implement a submission moveset.

Ok, I just wish they would put the focus on the guys capable of doing such a ppv then.

[Mr. Nerfect]

You'd hope that they'd have to, if they were going to do a PPV like this.

I miss the Haas of Pain. :(

[HeartBreakMan2k]

You'd hope that they'd have to, if they were going to do a PPV like this.

I miss the Haas of Pain. :(

You would think they would, but no.. they wouldn't. It'd be STFU's and bearhugs, and ugly crossfaces, and even worse sharpshooters :(

[Savio]

TNA has Turning Point.oh UFC 81 Breaking Point

[Mooияakeя™]

U reckon Taker will own all with his device of doom that he calls Hell's Gate / Devil's Triangle? - Be intersting to see WWE superstars attempt to do submission moves. lol. They'll look so stupid.

Strange they came up with this. It's to capitalise on the MMA thing a little, a little on the "hardcore wrestling marks" and to mix things up.

I do agree they should be different matches tho. 2 falls / 3 tap outs / no chokes / innovate a move only match etc.

[Fox]

WWE presents "Ask Him!" live on PPV

[.44 Magdalene]

WWE presents Ring the Bell

[Xero]

WWE Presents "I QUIT! I QUIT! I QUIT!"

[.44 Magdalene]

WWE presents Vigorously Slap the Mat to Indicate You Are Submitting

[Savio]

WWE Get the Pin, Get the Win.

[Mr. Nerfect]

WWE presents Ring the Bell

I'd honestly mark out if that was the tagline for the PPV.

WWE Breaking Point: Ring the Bell! To my knowledge, here are the wrestlers on the WWE roster who have used submission moves as finishing holds in the past:

Big Show: Anaconda Clutch (Cobra Clutch)

Carlito: Fourto Rico (Figure Four Leg Lock, OVW)

Chavo Guerrero: Low Rider (STF), White Out (Rolling Half-Boston Crab)

Cody Rhodes: Bore 'Em and Snore 'Em (Sleeper Hold, OVW)

Jamie Noble: Trailer Hitch (Modified Figure Four), Paydirt (Guillotine Choke), The Noble Dragon (Dragon Sleeper Clutch), Jujiga-Jamie (Cross Armbar)

John Cena: STFU (STF)

Mr. Kennedy: The Kennedy Curse (Modified Figure Four)

MVP: Take it to The Bank (Crippler Crossface, independent circuit)

Primo: Fourto Rico (Figure Four Leg Lock, independent circuit)

Santino Marella: Calabria Crack (Standing Inverted Fujiwara Armbar), Three-Sided Polygon Submission Maneuver (Triangle Choke)

Shawn Michaels: The Heartbreak Lock (Modified Figure Four), Crippler Crossface, Ankle Lock

Ted DiBiase: Million Dollar Dream (FCW)

Triple H: Game Over (Sleeper Hold), Aristocrack (Inverted Indian Deathlock, WCW), Crippler Crossface, Figure Four

William Regal: Regal Stretch (Arm-Trap Cross-Legged STF)

Charlie Haas: Haas of Pain (Modified Texas Cloverleaf)

Chris Jericho: Walls of Jericho (Modified Boston Crab)

CM Punk: Anaconda Vice (Arm-Trap Compression Choke)

Edge: Edgecator, Sharpshooter

Kung Fu Naki: Cross-Knee Lock, #1 Leg Lock (Figure Four)

The Great Khali: Khali Klaw

The Undertaker: Taker Care of Business (Standing Dragon Sleeper), Hell's Gate (Gogoplata)

Christian: Texas Cloverleaf

David Hart Smith: Sharpshooter, Bulldog Collar (Camel Clutch Variants), Bulldog Bite (Dragon Sleeper Variants)

Ezekiel Jackson: Jack-Rack (Torture Rack)

Finlay: Celtic Knot (Modified Indian Deathlock)

Mark Henry: World's Strongest Submission (Bear Hug)

Paul Burchill: Royal Mutilation (Fujiwara Armbar)

Beth Phoenix: Flight of the Phoenix (Elevated Double-Arm Chickenwing)

Candice Michelle: Candylicious (Hanging Figure Four Neck Lock)

Gail Kim: Christo (Tilt-a-Whirl Headscissors into Armbar)

Melina: California Dream (Sickle Hold)

Michelle McCool: Make a Diva Tap (Brazilian Heel Hook)

Natalya: Sharpshooter

[The Gold Standard]

Breaking Point is the best

[.44 Magdalene]

Taker Care of Business is easily one of the dumbest move names I've seen in a long time.

[Xero]

"That Submission Move Again" was worse.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Taker Care of Business is easily one of the dumbest move names I've seen in a long time.

Hey, that's actually one I didn't make up.

[Dave Youell]

They could do a lion's den match as well

And even have one under MMA rules, now to be honest, in a brawl for all style, with shoot wrestling, i'd be very interested in seeing who'd come out on top, everyone know's the story of Benoit beating Show backstage in a shoot wrestling match, I'd love to have seen that

[Dave Youell]

And of course Jericho pwning Goldberg would of been awesome to see as well

[Impeccable]

Jericho vs Regal, submission match, make it happen!

[Dave Youell]

Submission match with weapons legal

Ironman Submission

There's loads of idea's here!

[Kane Knight]

Total submission, only because I want the PG era WWE to have an S&M title.

[Theo Dious]

You know, they have a PPV called "No Mercy," don't they? Why don't they just attach this concept to that PPV if they want to do it so bad?

[James Steele]

KK, always adding great insight to the discussion.

[Kane Knight]

Shut up, you ignorant ass!

[Mr. Nerfect]

You know, they have a PPV called "No Mercy," don't they? Why don't they just attach this concept to that PPV if they want to do it so bad?

Thought about that, but wouldn't a wrestler tapping out be begging for mercy? The PPV should be renamed "WWE Show Mercy."

[Xero]

Ah, but the one applying the submission would be showing No Mercy.

[Savio]

But wouldn't that imply he would not break the hold?

[Jordan]

I really like Submit & Quit. Sounds pretty bad ass.

[RP]

If this was a tournament format wither every wrestler big, small all weight classes. This would be a terrific platform to give a huge push to someone who wins it, without hurting any of your main event superstars.

[Triple Naitch]

RP is right. A submission tournament would be pretty entertaining.

[St. Jimmy]

Brawl 4 All.

[Kane Knight]

How about a Rumble style submission match? It would be a clusterfuck, but an amusing one.

[Mr. Nerfect]

But wouldn't that imply he would not break the hold?

That's where I'm coming from. "No Mercy" would imply that if the guy tapped, the guy putting the hold on would be all "Fuck you, bitch! Die!"

[Mr. Nerfect]

How about a Rumble style submission match? It would be a clusterfuck, but an amusing one.

That would actually be pretty cool. I probably wouldn't go with timed entrances and stuff, but I'd like to see a multi-man match, where the only way to be eliminated is when you submitted or surrendered.