Cricket

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Rajah's is broken and I want somewhere to talk about cricket. This will probably get no responses since you don't have a thread already but never mind.

Massive Summer ahead; the mickey mouse world 20/20 followed by the serious stuff, England v Australia.

Anyway right now England are about to lose to Holland. A team of amateurs. In our own tournament. Embarrassing really. I wouldn't care too much but now all the Indians will say 'YOU ONLY DONT LIKE 20/20 CAUSE YOU'RE RUBBISH AT IT'. No, we don't like it cause it's shit.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Shocking bit of umpiring there. If you've got big lines to show where the wides are you really can't be giving them for deliveries 3 inches inside.

[Miotch]

Are you just going to talk to yourself then?

[1_Pablo_Angel]

I would have. But now you're here to keep me company :y:

Miotch loves his cricket.

[Team Sheep]

Hahahahahahaha

[1_Pablo_Angel]

:(

Talk about folding under pressure. Missed 3 easy(ish) runouts in the last 2 overs, pathetic stuff.

[Londoner]

Fucking amazing game, shocking performance by england but equally good by netherlands, thats 20/20 for you.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

It'd be OK if one of their players hit a ridiculously good innings. But we just gave it away by collapsing utterly under a bit of pressure at the end.

Doesn't bode well at all.

Also what's the point in playing Key and then holding him down the order when you've left Mascarenhas out of the side?

[Londoner]

That's what i've been thinking, Key is fucking shite. Never liked him. And nowlook, he's let us down again. Some batsmen.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Well to be fair I love Rob Key and his pudgey little face. But there's no point putting him in with 2 overs left. He's not that kind of batsman.

[Londoner]

I can't see the point of him being in 20/20 at all tbh.

[Londoner]

Also the bowling selection was questionable/the fielding positions.

[Rob Ban Fan]

Hahahahahahaha

<font color="#ff6600">England AND WALES Cricket Board m8.</font>

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Robert Croft will be fuming tonight.

[Team Sheep]

<font color="#ff6600">England AND WALES Cricket Board m8.</font>

I know that I'm not stupid. I support the team. I just found it hilarious and pitiful. :$

[GD]

Don't be hard on yourself son. We truly believe the grapes are sour.

[Bad Company]

We'll try follow your lead and lose to Scotland tonight.

[Pete Cash]

The ashes is where the action is :D

[Bad Company]

The Ashes is great. When England is competitive, which is once every 30 years.

[Londoner]

<font color="#ff6600">England AND WALES Cricket Board m8.</font>

Plus they get the first match in the ashes, bastards.

[Bad Company]

lol, 7 overs an innings for NZ v Scotland

[Londoner]

would've been 5 if they started at 12:30

[Bad Company]

Fucken stupid by the organisers doing back to back matches.

[Bad Company]

And we're getting destroyed.

[Pete Cash]

That Watson fellow went mental

[Londoner]

Can't believe i actually want scotland to win....what the hells goin on? First netherlands..now scotland doing well.

[Bad Company]

Yeah, he was going nuts.
Heaps of bad luck going our way too, bloody balls going to fine leg or 3rd man.

[Londoner]

Now you know how we felt.:D

[Bad Company]

Fucking hell, this is fucken ugly.

[Londoner]

uh oh

[Bad Company]

Our bowlers are absolute shit, always have been. We really needed Vettori.
Ah well, hopefully Shane Bond will be back before long.

[Londoner]

bizarre shot for six that!

[Londoner]

89 may be enough already...depends how shit scots bowlers are.

[Pete Cash]

New Zealand have a bit of fire power opening the batting. Scotland really need a couple of quick wickets and the Kiwis are in MASSIVE trouble.

[Bad Company]

Oh god, I sense another NZ implosion.

[Pete Cash]

This game is fucking hilarious.

One of the Scots dropped a ball and kicked it for four :lol:

[Londoner]

Game over now scotland. scots bowlers are shit, fielders to.

[Pete Cash]

The big fat fellow with the beard and the kilt takes a nice catch.... in the crowd :lol:

Bad luck Scots but you provided many a laugh

[Bad Company]

Good win, over to spare.

I wasn't worried :shifty:

[Londoner]

Good win, over to spare.

I wasn't worried :shifty:

Suuurrre!

[1_Pablo_Angel]

'Mon the Windies!

Your man Ponting is done Pete. Past it. This Summer will be his last Test series.

[Londoner]

haahahahaha aussies you cunts

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Why are the Windies always so terrible in the field?

[Londoner]

I'm not really watching it(got something else on) but i really hope the windies win this.

[Londoner]

yes! 15-3 what a time to switch over

[Pete Cash]

Ponting has never been a good twenty20 batsman. I'd rather him retire from both Twenty20 and ODI to be honest.

[Londoner]

excuses excuses excuses!!!

[Pete Cash]

We are going along alright here atm all things considered. i mean its not the might of the netherlands but we are recovering at present.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

oooh oooh THE NETHERLANDS fuck off

[Londoner]

Netherlands gonna win the tournament imo

[1_Pablo_Angel]

It's just nice to see Ponting falling over himself early in his innings. As usual. You'd think he might have ironed out that technical flaw a bit by now.

[Pete Cash]

australians always bat with flaws in their techniques.

look at langer, hayden, hughes, katich, clarke, hussey all have massive technique flaws yet impressive records

[Londoner]

yep,aussies are flawed,thanks for being honest pete.;)

I'm guessing aussies will get 140.

[Pete Cash]

but we are also the most successful cricketing nation ever :)

our batsman grow up in harsher conditions and learn to tough it out. look at ian bell lovely technique but weak as jelly. people with pretty techniques just get gobbled up in australia because of the bouncier wickets traditionally.

[Londoner]

I think the difference is we play too much cricket.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Dunno, we tried not playing any cricket and that didn't work either. It's the standard that's the problem.

The West Indies really are shocking in the field. If someone in my team made some of the mistakes they're making we'd get absolutely bollocked, and I play at a pretty low standard these days.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

australians always bat with flaws in their techniques.

look at langer, hayden, hughes, katich, clarke, hussey all have massive technique flaws yet impressive records

Only reason you beat us 5-0 last time was because you STOLE OUR PLANS :shifty:

[Pete Cash]

yeah the australian first class system has 5 sides. helps immensely in making sure that only the BEST players are slugging it out in the first class system. so lets say both nations produce the same amount of quality players... the australian batsman have gone through a tougher harsher system.

169 i will take that after the start.

[Londoner]

Oh well, so much for my prediction.

[Pete Cash]

God you are rubbish Lee. If the Windies are to win I hope they bash the SHIT out of Lee so he doesn't get picked for the ashes.

[Pete Cash]

Crikey this Fletcher fellow can hit a ball... looks like a zombie though

[Pete Cash]

Good one Hussey you dickhead. I think you should join the Windies like Brendan Nash

[1_Pablo_Angel]

If Scotland had held their nerve we could have had 3 massive upsets in the first 3 games. Just shows you what a lottery this format really is.

[Pete Cash]

The Windies are as good as Australia at this type of cricket IMHO. We just are shite. I mean Gayle just literally hit Lee onto the ROAD.

[Pete Cash]

Now he just hit him down the street.

[Londoner]

aussies are just flawed imo

[Pete Cash]

:lol:

Lee why are you bowling no balls you fuckwit. 1pa remember that MSN chat we had when you were like LEE IS QUALITY WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

[Londoner]

71-0 off 5 overs!

[1_Pablo_Angel]

:lol:

Lee why are you bowling no balls you fuckwit. 1pa remember that MSN chat we had when you were like LEE IS QUALITY WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

I don't actually, which would imply I was a touch under the influence :)

He can be good. When he's swinging it at 93mph he's all but unplayable. But you see more of him than me, and that last over was shocking. Great to watch though.

[Pete Cash]

He doesn't swing the ball.

I mean the white ball doesn't swing much anyway but even with the red ball he seldom gets swing any more. He is the worst bowler to take 300 wickets.

[Londoner]

lmao@the pigeons

[Pete Cash]

This ugly pie chucker will surely bowl Australia back into the game

[1_Pablo_Angel]

James Hopes and Robert Key should be the public faces of this tournament.

Eye candy.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

At least our embarassing defeat was close. I mean I know the Windies are better but this is a raping. Lest we forget England beat them by 9 wickets a couple of days ago.

[Londoner]

We've battered the windies over the last few months yet aussies can't even dominate at all in this.

[Pete Cash]

lol you batted them in your own country after they beat you in a test series.

[Londoner]

and we beat them in the one day series over there to, they only beat us 1-0 in the test series.

[Pete Cash]

We beat them in a test series and a one day series in the West Indies a few months before you played them.

This tournament is a warm up to the Ashes to get used to English conditions. Nothing more

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Not to us. Ask an Indian how important it is.

What happened to TheRavi btw? I miss the crazy idiot.

[Londoner]

We beat them in a test series and a one day series in the West Indies a few months before you played them.

This tournament is a warm up to the Ashes to get used to English conditions. Nothing more

hahahaahah sure,shutup.:)

You criticizing lee so badly shows this isnt just a warm up to you.

[Pete Cash]

He I am sure is caring very deeply over this tournament.

If Australia wants to play in these things they should send specialist teams. These sorta ODI sides we send are retarded. Just pick a bunch of t20 specialists and have the others sneak into county teams

[Pete Cash]

hahahaahah sure,shutup.:)

You criticizing lee so badly shows this isnt just a warm up to you.

There is potential Lee might play for Australia in the Ashes when we just beat South Africa with no Lee in sight. I would criticise him walking down the road. Ask IPA my thoughts on Lee :lol:

[Londoner]

So when aussies lose the ashes, they'll be like'oh we only care about the 50 over game, but we'll laugh at england whenever they lose in 20/20'

[Pete Cash]

No, if Australia loses the Ashes we aren't going to pretend to not care about Test cricket. Can't you remember 2005 or something?

Losing 2005 was one of the darkest days in Australian cricket. If we lose the Ashes this time it won't be QUITE as bad but it would still be terrible.

[Londoner]

No, if Australia loses the Ashes we aren't going to pretend to not care about Test cricket. Can't you remember 2005 or something?

Losing 2005 was one of the darkest days in Australian cricket. If we lose the Ashes this time it won't be QUITE as bad but it would still be terrible.

Course i remember 2005,i was at the celebration party thing.:cool: I was taking the piss out of you guys losing.:)

[Pete Cash]

How did the next Ashes series go again???

See we went down fighting, you guys capitulated like little girls :lol:

[Londoner]

How did the next Ashes series go again???

See we went down fighting, you guys capitulated like little girls :lol:

Different teams now though.:) where are warne and gilchrist?oh yeah...the IPL

[Pete Cash]

Thats why it wouldn't be so bad to lose. I sorta don't know what to expect to be honest. I think there is good potential in the Australian line up but i am terrified the selectors are going to make poor decisions.

I could cop losing this series to be honest. It will be close anyway.

[Londoner]

great catch

[Pete Cash]

I am watching Australia's AFC qualifier in the Football now.

[Londoner]

johnson bowls two wides,just thought i would inform you,and then gives a way a four, windies win!

[Pete Cash]

I still had cricinfo going mate.

[Londoner]

My updates are better and more accurate...

e.g: West indies completely batter the aussies.

[Pete Cash]

The West Indies are a full ICC member aren't they :lol:

[Londoner]

Haven't acted like it though.

[Pete Cash]

But they still are a full member.

I cannot remember the last time Australia lost to an Associate member. In fact I cannot recall it ever happening... when did England last lose to an Associate Member :lol:

[Londoner]

Thought you didn't care about 20/20?hmmmmm....

[Londoner]

Good news is england winning 4-0 in the football...aussies lost...and other things goin well,good day this.:)

[Pete Cash]

i care a lot about associate members getting good results. i like the associates doing well. especially if it comes from england losing ;)

i am a big fan of pushing cricket around the world. i could start a massive rant on the icc and south africas failure with kenya

[1_Pablo_Angel]

I don't like 20/20 but it's always shit to lose to crap teams. Windies are pretty crap, Holland are worse. At least Australia lost through a brilliant Chris Gaylre performance, we basically defeated ourselves, which is the worst thing. Mentally weak.

[Team Sheep]

Twenty 20 is a bit of a crap shoot though. It's like baseball, any team can win on any given day. They should play a best of series like baseball. I'm not suggesting a best of 7 in the world cup because that would take too much time but it should be at least a best of 3.

[Bad Company]

It's called the tri series, the aussies run it, and it's sweet.

[Team Sheep]

One game against each team in the group is ridiculous. Each team should play each other at least twice. Then a best of 3 series in the knockouts.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

That would take fucking ages.

It's a lottery, everyone knows it's a lottery, who cares. Just don't take it too seriously.

[Team Sheep]

How would it take ages? Not if they had more venues.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Alright, you'd have a million games then. Can't see there being sufficient demand for tickets. Plus lots of meaningless/cancelled games.

[Team Sheep]

There's only 12 teams in the damn thing, it wouldn't take long at all. Each team in each group playing each other twice, that's only 6 games per group. You can get The group stages over within a week. Then another few days for the knockouts, that's 2 weeks tops. Where are the meaningless games coming from?

[Londoner]

Wouldn't work in this tournament, mainly because its a short tournament anyway and the ashes is straight after. Its just basically a warm up to get everybody in to the ashes series.

[Team Sheep]

True but if Twenty20 is the future of the game they should put some effort and thinking into it to give it some validity.

[Londoner]

20/20 and test cricket are the future, test cricket wont die i think. If it does then the sport itsself would die to, for me anyway.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Twenty 20 is not the future of the fucking game. It is a bit of a giggle.

I know lots of shallow stupid people think anything that takes longer than an hour and a half is boring but they are stupid and shallow and should not be pandered to. The game is more important than making a few quid in the short term. It's a pity the people in charge are businessmen rather than sportsmen. This is one area we could actually learn something from America.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Honestly. I'm just about sick of top flight football thanks to what money has done to it. If cricket is ruined as well I'll probably have to become a communist.

[Londoner]

Twenty 20 is not the future of the fucking game. It is a bit of a giggle.

I know lots of shallow stupid people think anything that takes longer than an hour and a half is boring but they are stupid and shallow and should not be pandered to. The game is more important than making a few quid in the short term. It's a pity the people in charge are businessmen rather than sportsmen. This is one area we could actually learn something from America.

Its the IPL that's ruining it abit, with all the money going there. And we play a lot of cricket in this country, something has to give. I hope not though, i love all forms of the game.

[Team Sheep]

Twenty 20 is not the future of the fucking game. It is a bit of a giggle.

I know lots of shallow stupid people think anything that takes longer than an hour and a half is boring but they are stupid and shallow and should not be pandered to. The game is more important than making a few quid in the short term. It's a pity the people in charge are businessmen rather than sportsmen. This is one area we could actually learn something from America.

Well you can't deny the popularity has increased since the inception of Twenty20. It may not be the cup of tea for purists like you, but that doesn't really matter. It's popular and it's growing, so it's going to be capitalized on for years to come.

[Londoner]

What i hate about 20/20 is those stupid fucking dancers after a boundary is scored.

[Team Sheep]

Lol the ones in England are just embarrassing.

[Londoner]

Lol the ones in England are just embarrassing.

Exactly! Makes me cringe.

[Team Sheep]

I guess it's acceptable in Africa or the West Indies cause it's in their culture and that. They just try and replicate it over here and it's awful to see :nono:

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Well you can't deny the popularity has increased since the inception of Twenty20. It may not be the cup of tea for purists like you, but that doesn't really matter. It's popular and it's growing, so it's going to be capitalized on for years to come.

Popularity might've increased temporarily but you're talking about a tiny spike in the context of a sport that's been around for over 100 years. In England 2020 attendances have dropped significantly this summer because there's so fucking much of it. I would also say that the 2005 Ashes did more for overall participation and interest levels in this country than 20/20 ever has. What did we do after that? Chase the short term cash by flogging Test rights to Sky, ensuring that most people can't watch it and as part of the contract we have to play an ever increasing number of pointless matches.

There is a place for 20/20 but not at the detriment of other forms of the game, and oversaturation is a real worry. Of course noone cares about this because they're just chasing the short term cash. As usual.

It doesn't take a purist to see that 20/20 is a far more limited game than Test cricket. One that, while popular now, is far less likely to stand the test of time.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Exactly! Makes me cringe.

DLF MAXIMUM!

stupid BCCI

[Pete Cash]

Twenty20 cricket is useful in growing cricket in other markets. Especially those of Africa and Asia where cricket is already fairly integrated but lagging behind football as a national game.

However, it is all well and good for the game to grow and it will because it is a good game. It is up to the ICC to capitalise and to say force South Africa and India to play games against emerging teams in those regions. South Africa did everything they could to avoid ODI against Kenya at a time when Kenya should have really been given full status.

There is no point having an exciting game if the ICC is a corrupt organisation that panders to a few countries just because they vote in a bloc.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

I am quite enjoying this i must say.

[Zeeboe]

Cricket!? :wtf: Nobody understands cricket! You gotta know what a crumpet is, to understand cricket.....

[Londoner]

Um,fuck off zeeboe.

[Londoner]

Were through to the super eights!

[yianni]

So when aussies lose the ashes, they'll be like'oh we only care about the 50 over game, but we'll laugh at england whenever they lose in 20/20'

Yep, that'd be right. Strayan supporters... :nono:

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Just catching the end of the Ireland game here, going to be tight. 20 runs from 3 overs. The O'Brien brothers have faces that I doubt even their own mother could love.

16 from 2.5 overs now.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Class. Some Super 8s fun on the way.

Got tickets to see Ireland vs. England ODI at Stormont in August, hope it doesn't rain.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Does this mean I am better at cricket than Pete Cash and yianni?

[Londoner]

Out of the tournament already eh aussies?HAHAHAHAAHA

[Bad Company]

Mate, he in glass houses :p

[Pete Cash]

Cricket... never liked it anyway :(

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Sri Lanka are brilliant. I knew Dilshan was good when I picked him in my fantasy world cup side years ago. He scored about 5 runs in 6 innings then, the bastard.

[Tazz Dan]

Brett Lee is past it. Keep an eye out for Hilfy at the ashes :y:

[Londoner]

WE BEAT THE DEFENDING CHAMPS! YEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

[Cactus Sid]

Is Kamran Akmal the most annoying sportsman on the planet?

[Pete Cash]

A few of those Irish cricketers are pretty good and could benefit from the ICC allowing them to play test matches against Bangladesh. I think two test leagues with a promotion/relegation system would be ideal.

Players like Boyd Rankin could go far under a proper professional system.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

It would also encourage some Irish players to stick with Ireland not go to on to be England back-ups. Eoin Morgan and Ed Joyce to name two. If Ireland had those pair, they'd have been more competitive in the 20/20.

But really Irish cricket has absolutely no chance if your biggest ambition is to maybe get picked for England. It already has to compete with football, rugby and GAA in a tiny country.

[Pete Cash]

I really don't see a massive difference between Ireland and the lower full members in talent. There is a fair gulf in ability between the top three full members and the rest. The gap between say South Africa and the West Indies is greater than that between Ireland and Bangladesh I would think.

The saddest thing about Ed Joyce is he decided on England during the period of time when Bell and Vaughan would not be dropped. He probably would have got a run if the selectors had been honest about it. Then they tried to turn him into a ODI opener.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Well the Irish cricket board were talking publically about this last week, to the effect of: what does Irish cricket have to do to gain full Test status? They are not calling for it immediately, but there are no guidelines for how it should even eventually happen. Irish cricket cannot capitalise on ODI or 20/20 World Cup performances if there is no future in the sport for aspiring players or current players to stick with the team and go full-time.

Cricket is such an oddly run sport. They appear intent on keeping it niche in terms of participation but want to make it huge in terms of audience. There's no concept that long-term competition has to be sustained and wide if people are to keep watching.

[GD]

WE BEAT THE DEFENDING CHAMPS! YEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

You have no idea what's happening in India post defeat.

[Ogen]

Guru Dave when will you admit that the Irish team are technically more gifted than those hooligans that play for India.

[GD]

TBH, I am a fan of the Irish cricket team. But it would be foolish to compare them with the Indian cricket team at least for now.

[Juan]

http://wpcontent.answers.com/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d7/JiminyCricket.jpg/250px-JiminyCricket.jpg

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Well, shame that's over but beating India was particularly satisfying :D

Bring on the Ashes. Oh and Sri Lanka to win the 20/20, hopefully.

[Pete Cash]

TBH, I am a fan of the Irish cricket team. But it would be foolish to compare them with the Indian cricket team at least for now.

Yeah, nobody massively overrates the Irish side and pretends they can win test series outside of Ireland lol

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Michael Vaughan officially retires from international cricket.

A sad day I suppose, not that he should be anywhere near the team.

http://www.alloutcricket.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/vaughan_lifting_ashes1.jpg

:heart:

[Bad Company]

Well, Shane Bond has re-signed with NZ Cricket. Good to see him back, we've finally got a decent pace bowler now.
Will be interesting to see how many seasons he lasts.

[WestNZ]

thank you god, you did hear my prayers,

Shane Bond is back on New Zealands Contracted players list, YAY for us, we actually have a bowler again that can keep pace with the best in the world

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Brett Lee is really showing Pete Cash today. And Ian Bell.

[Downunder]

I was talking to a former Australian captian the other week, he reckoned Brett Lee was past it.

I guess he was wrong.

[Derryn The Dog]

Phillip Hughes will tear the Poms a new arse this Ashes series, the boy is quality.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Yeah looked it at Worcester last week.

[Derryn The Dog]

Seen him play a couple of Sheffield Shield games for NSW, absolute freak. Glad Australia is willing to give someone under 35 a go for once

[Team Sheep]

Looks like England are gonna be saved by the weather. Nice one Wales :D

[Downunder]

Isn't it time you poms built a cricket ground with a roof.

[Team Sheep]

They should have one modern cricket stadium.

[Londoner]

Poor aussies. :lol:

[Team Sheep]

Woo draw. What an even contest :cool: :shifty:

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Isn't it time you poms built a cricket ground with a roof.

That would kill our home advantage. :roll:

[Londoner]

1-0 to the england! 75 years of hurt at lords finally ended! flintoff gets 5 wickets on his last ever test match at lords! Couldn't be any better!!

[Dave Youell]

The work at my office today has been minimal

God bless Freddie Flintoff

And god bless contraversail umpire decisions that go our way!

[Team Sheep]

1-0 :cool:

[Team Sheep]

Haha Graham Onions, first 2 balls of the day, 2 wickets. Brilliant.

[Danny Electric]

I only live down the road from Edgbaston, hope the traffic is ok later :)

[Team Sheep]

Good lord.

Maybe the Australians will come back to this thread after this morning.

[Dave Youell]

Fuck me!

Worst opening day I can remember in a very long time

Unless we are somehow batting again by the end of the day, it's looking like a 1-1 series heading into the Oval. Shit!

[Impeccable]

Fuck me!

Worst opening day I can remember in a very long time

Unless we are somehow batting again by the end of the day, it's looking like a 1-1 series heading into the Oval. Shit!

Ponting said after the second test that some outcomes are decided in the very first session of a test. Perfect example.

Personally, never known England to capitulate that badly. I've known us drop like flies before...there's no natural leaders and the team lacks a good batsmen...thought Trott would have played today to be honest.

Shocked....just shocked.

[Dave Youell]

Ponting said after the second test that some outcomes are decided in the very first session of a test. Perfect example.

Personally, never known England to capitulate that badly. I've known us drop like flies before...there's no natural leaders and the team lacks a good batsmen...thought Trott would have played today to be honest.

Shocked....just shocked.

I was trying to hang on to a glimmer of hope that the pitch was swinging loads or something.

The Ozzie reply seems to dissagree with my theory.

Agree that we should of gone with Trott. Bopara and Bell hardly install confidence. Strauss and Collingwood have had decent series thus far, and Prior didn't do anything wrong today, but the rest of the order should all have a good long look at themselves.

[Impeccable]

Yeah, right down the order, pathetic...Cook is having a poor test...Bopara is out of form but I wouldn't drop him... I'm not sure he's a number three so I'd move him down to four and put Trott in at three. At least with Trott, he'd have been an unknown quantity in there...much like Pietersen was in 2005.

As you say Strauss and Colly have had good series, but as today showed, they're always susceptible to a low score/cock up.

I wanted to believe that we weren't a one dimensional team relying on Pitersen and Flintoff. **sobs**

Just picked up Ashes cricket for the xbox 360...off to make things right.

[Bad Company]

lol

[Bad Company]

lol
llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

[Dave Youell]

COME THE FUCK ON MOTHER FUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!

[Londoner]

oooohhh what a day so far!!!!!!!!!! 5 more wickets to win the ashes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Londoner]

ENGLAND 2009 ASHES WINNERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Team Sheep]

Haha Australia :P

[ct2k]

Good times boys, good fucking times:y:

[Dave Youell]

FUCK YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs

[Downunder]

The way my pommy mate is carring on you'd think they'd won The Ashes.



oh wait.

[Londoner]

I'm still buzzing from this. Long may it continue!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sting Fan]

The way my pommy mate is carring on you'd think they'd won The Ashes more than twice this decade




But in all seriosuness its nice to see the ashes go to England, puts a bit more spice back into the rivalry for me.