View Full Version : No more YOO-MANGA!?!?!
Nicky Fives
06-08-2009, 07:14 PM
http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/10461872
Did not see this one coming.....
Huh. 2nd strange release in a week or 2. Punk'll be next
Supreme Olajuwon
06-08-2009, 07:16 PM
What? Fuck that.
Inadequacy
06-08-2009, 07:17 PM
Well that sucks.
Savio
06-08-2009, 07:17 PM
Wow that was unexpected
thedamndest
06-08-2009, 07:17 PM
Hope he likes Umaga tattoos.
Testicle
06-08-2009, 07:19 PM
Wow, his work has been good, I bet there was some back stage stuff going on.
Splaya
06-08-2009, 07:20 PM
WHAT THE FUCK
owenbrown
06-08-2009, 07:24 PM
What the fuck is going on? :wtf:
Savio
06-08-2009, 07:24 PM
Apparently John Cena bad mouthed him to Vince. Dunno why
Don't believe that for a second :-\
Rammsteinmad
06-08-2009, 07:29 PM
Damn! Was fucking loving Smackdowns main event scene at the moment, and Umaga has been pulling out some really good stuff lately.
Halbowsky
06-08-2009, 07:34 PM
And just when he starts talking.
First Kennedy, then Batista doesn't get future endeavored for being injured again, then Umaga gets future endeavored...
Something really doesn't seem right about everything... :?:
Evil Vito
06-08-2009, 07:35 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Shit, they really are trying to cut back costs lately. Kennedy and Umaga's releases were both surprising...have to figure they were both making decent money.</font>
You saying Batista should be fired?
Because if you are then you are a moron.
And if you aren't, well then you aren't a moron :)
Umaga is talent though. I don't know why they got rid of him.
Savio
06-08-2009, 07:36 PM
Don't believe that for a second :-\
heard it at NoDQ
Umaga > Joe over the last 2 years
NeanderCarl
06-08-2009, 07:40 PM
WWE apparently has zero desire to create longterm stars for the future. Even the guys they get over short term in high card spots get the chop a couple of years later on a McMahon whim.
Umaga (and Kennedy) may not have been vital to the WWE of today, but may well have turned out vital to the WWE of tomorrow.
DarKCentaur
06-08-2009, 07:40 PM
TNA must be creaming their pants as of late.
NeanderCarl
06-08-2009, 07:42 PM
Hmmm... I can see them picking up Kennedy, but not so sure bout Umaga... I reckon he's Japan bound.
You saying Batista should be fired?
Because if you are then you are a moron.
And if you aren't, well then you aren't a moron :)
Umaga is talent though. I don't know why they got rid of him.
Should be released...no he should.
Should be given the WWE Championship even though he can't wrestle a full match in his current condition....yea, that was dumb.
Hey, idk about you guys, but my friends were loving Umanga as of late. If TNA doesn't consider picking up a hot wrestler like Umanga then they must be idio...oh yeaaaaa....
Supreme Olajuwon
06-08-2009, 07:45 PM
Umaga was great. Way better than any of the other evil foreign monsters like Kozlov and Khali.
Halbowsky
06-08-2009, 07:47 PM
I also find it a bit interesting that wwe.com announced this under their "WWE NEWS" section while they announced Kennedy under their "INDUSTRY NEWS" section
I also find this a bit shocking on the tails of a PPV where I've heard some people give him better reviews then his partner CM Punk. I mean I could see Kennedy (guys been a bit of a waste in the last year or more), but this is a shocker. I was expexting Candice to be on her way out before Umanga.
NeanderCarl
06-08-2009, 07:49 PM
Umaga was great. Way better than any of the other evil foreign monsters like Kozlov and Khali.
I reckon one of those two guys could be next on the chopping block.
Of the two, Khali has the following in India which has apparently added to WWE's popularity over there... but Koslov by far has the most potential to actually go somewhere in future. He's no spring chicken, but he's still learning, and he has a good heel presence... he looks like a scary badass.
If I had to choose, I'd drop Khali and employ Dutt as the 'token Indian' to maintain the popularity.
Dorkchop
06-08-2009, 07:49 PM
This is very surprising. I'm going to assume there were some things backstage that we didn't know about.
WWE needs to release the untalented divas. No one cares about them.
This is very surprising. I'm going to assume there were some things backstage that we didn't know about.
WWE needs to release the untalented divas. No one cares about them.
If they did that they'd need to hold a Diva Search to replace them.
DO YOU WANT TO SUBJECT US TO THAT!?
Dorkchop
06-08-2009, 07:52 PM
I reckon one of those two guys could be next on the chopping block.
Of the two, Khali has the following in India which has apparently added to WWE's popularity over there... but Koslov by far has the most potential to actually go somewhere in future. He's no spring chicken, but he's still learning, and he has a good heel presence... he looks like a scary badass.
If I had to choose, I'd drop Khali and employ Dutt as the 'token Indian' to maintain the popularity.
Dutt is pretty tiny though. WWE doesn't like really tiny guys that aren't Rey. He can be pretty fun in the ring though. Too bad there isn't a place for guys like him in the company. Hopefully things can change soon. They won't.
DarKCentaur
06-08-2009, 07:52 PM
If TNA picked up Trevor Murdoch, surely they'd be interested in Umaga. Also, while Sonjay Dutt is better than Khali by leaps and bounds, isn't Khali some kind of national hero in India? He's a much bigger asset to the company as far as PR is concerned.
erickman
06-08-2009, 08:02 PM
time for the island boys to join tna's tag div, guess they will be in joes an tazzzes nat of vilance
Londoner
06-08-2009, 08:07 PM
Stupid fucking wwe. Just as they were going in the right direction with him they release him.:roll:
Evil Vito
06-08-2009, 08:07 PM
If TNA picked up Trevor Murdoch, surely they'd be interested in Umaga. Also, while Sonjay Dutt is better than Khali by leaps and bounds, isn't Khali some kind of national hero in India? He's a much bigger asset to the company as far as PR is concerned.
<font color=goldenrod>Yeah...as shit as Khali might be in the ring, I'd be sad if he got released cause he donates a large portion of his income to India. Great guy.</font>
NeanderCarl
06-08-2009, 08:08 PM
If TNA picked up Trevor Murdoch, surely they'd be interested in Umaga. Also, while Sonjay Dutt is better than Khali by leaps and bounds, isn't Khali some kind of national hero in India? He's a much bigger asset to the company as far as PR is concerned.
Depends really. Depends whether WWE thinks Khali himself is the attraction, or having a national representative as a hero is the attraction. It's not like Khali is a main eventer or top contender anymore, so what difference does it make if Sonjay Dutt slips into the Indian national hero role? They'll both be about as successful as each other, except one of them can work great matches, and the other one is a physical mess.
It also depends how much Khali is earning. I think that in the recession, nobody is safe from the chop, no matter how unexpected it may seem, unless they are bonafide main eventers or can't miss future prospects who haven't totally flopped.
Shame to say it, but I reckon Kane will be under consideration too if they are spring cleaning. Also, Mark Henry (and Tony Atlas). Basically, all tenured guys who have clearly peaked and can't really headline anymore (or never really did), but probably earn healthy wages due to their longevity.
As for Umaga, I think TNA may be interested but I reckon Umaga will choose to go to Japan, not be forced there out of lack of opportunities in the US.
NeanderCarl
06-08-2009, 08:14 PM
Hmmm, I think Regal could fall into the "tenured + peaked = off you endeavour" category.
Regal is tight with Trips. I think he stands a good shot at getting an agent job when he's done. Then again, I didn't see Kennedy or Umaga coming
redoneja
06-08-2009, 08:17 PM
Wow. I was enjoying his work since he's been back on Smackdown.
Savio
06-08-2009, 08:17 PM
I can't see Kane going
Supreme Olajuwon
06-08-2009, 08:20 PM
Hmmm, I think Regal could fall into the "tenured + peaked = off you endeavour" category.
Regal has a past history of shining in roles out of the ring so I think he's safe
NeanderCarl
06-08-2009, 08:21 PM
I like Kane, and he's contributed a lot over the last 12 years, but there comes a time when you can't take a character anywhere else. How mnay more heel turns? How many more face turns? How many more fun-lovin' goofball runs? How many more sadistic twisted evil maniac runs? How many more feuds with Undertaker?
Physically, he is not the same guy he was when he debuted (as Kane), but he is also stale and exhausted. I can see him leaving on amicable terms and returning now and again for one shots and short term storylines. I can't see him offering anything new at all in 2009 or beyond. Just retreading old ground less successfully each time round.
Same goes for Goldust.
NeanderCarl
06-08-2009, 08:22 PM
Regal has a past history of shining in roles out of the ring so I think he's safe
That's very true. I think he'd make a fantastic colour commentator.
Savio
06-08-2009, 08:28 PM
I like Kane, and he's contributed a lot over the last 12 years, but there comes a time when you can't take a character anywhere else. How mnay more heel turns? How many more face turns? How many more fun-lovin' goofball runs? How many more sadistic twisted evil maniac runs? How many more feuds with Undertaker?
Physically, he is not the same guy he was when he debuted (as Kane), but he is also stale and exhausted. I can see him leaving on amicable terms and returning now and again for one shots and short term storylines. I can't see him offering anything new at all in 2009 or beyond. Just retreading old ground less successfully each time round.
Same goes for Goldust.
I agree but I also have to say being that he has been there 12 years straight WWE won't just release him
Lock Jaw
06-08-2009, 08:37 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Umanga has been really interesting lately. Not to mention putting on some good matches. He could have definitely stuck around as the "Kane" of the WWE. As in, rarely winning anything big, but treated like he is a huge monster threat.
Umanga at WM24 really had some people in the crowd behind him and I enjoyed that. They should've kept going with him being crazy and not making any sense on the mic. Firing him was stupid.
Maybe he failed another pee test
NeanderCarl
06-08-2009, 08:44 PM
I agree but I also have to say being that he has been there 12 years straight WWE won't just release him
Bob Holly was there for the better part of two decades, and he got canned when he passed his use-by-date too. Vince is quite loyal to his old soldiers, but he's even more loyal to the almighty buck.
Team Sheep
06-08-2009, 08:53 PM
They didn't even try Umaga out as a face. They teased it one time where he'd just get all destructive with the heels and the fans loved it, but then he disappeared for a while and nothing came of it. Bit disappointed by this as I didn't think he was half bad, his matches with Punk at Judgment Day and Smackdown last Friday were great, but yeah it could easily be to do with something completely unrelated to his ring work or character.
Nark Order
06-08-2009, 09:12 PM
Umaga is canned and KANE is still around?!? What in the fuck is going on here?
The Gold Standard
06-08-2009, 09:21 PM
I do not understand this move at all. I always thought he was good. The downfall started when he began to talk.
ClockShot
06-08-2009, 09:22 PM
What? Umaga takes time off, comes back looking stunning, and had something going for him.
I know Vince is quietly housecleaning, but Kennedy and now Umaga? There's gotta be more to this.
Triple Naitch
06-08-2009, 09:33 PM
His character was really starting to take off. Bummer.
Legend Killer
06-08-2009, 09:37 PM
Some little shit head last night on the Live Stream I watch of Extreme Rules said this, I thought he was a stupid Mark. But evidently, this kid or whoever knew.
Damn...
I shall now go and listen to Dust in the Wind...
They should get rid of ALL the divas to be honest. They don't even undress and noone gives a flying fuck about their matches.
How dare you blasphemise MARYYYSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEE like that
RGWhat316
06-08-2009, 10:17 PM
This one is pretty surprising. Possible wellness??
RatedGSuperstar
06-09-2009, 02:04 AM
It could just be that they got fed up with him getting injured every time they tried to do something with him. The timing is definitely awkward, but I guess they figured since the Punk feud is over they didn't really have anything for him, and they'd rather cut him loose than have him toil away with nothing to do.
As far as Khali/Dutt goes, there's a chance Khali just leaves when his contract is up. I believe he's acknowledged that he can't compete for much longer with his bad knees, and that he's had a ton of movie offers. I think I'd definitely see a Bollywood movie with Khali in it. ;)
I don't know if Dutt would be embraced as the Indian national hero. Khali was actually born in Punjab; Dutt was born in Washington D.C. I don't know how in touch he is with the culture (I imagine at least a bit considering he based his ring name off the famous Indian actor), but there's always the chance he's seen as more American than Indian...but perhaps some of the Indians here can help in that regard. ;)
Shadow
06-09-2009, 02:38 AM
I mean...wow. Jesus christ who saw this coming? Nobody that's who.
Mr. Nerfect
06-09-2009, 04:07 AM
Umaga is a damn good talent. Eddie Fatu will do well for himself either in Japan, ROH or TNA. Personally, I'd be very interested to see the guy working in TNA. Samoa Joe vs. Ekmo Joe could be pretty cool.
I believe there has to be something more to this. Umaga either failing another piss test, and the WWE just giving up on him, or some sort of political issue.
If the WWE are making roster cuts, I can definitely see Tony Atlas being shipped off after losing to Evan Bourne on ECW. Then it may be Mark Henry's time. Also, if he's not wrestling, I can't see the WWE showing too much loyalty to Gregory Helms. I'm surprised that Sim Snuka and DJ Gabriel are still on the roster.
Didn't people go ape-shit for Sonjay Dutt when he went over to India? Plus, considering some of the stuff he can do in the ring, and the price the WWE would be able to bring him in for -- Dutt could be, ultimately, a much better choice over Khali. Which is a shame, because Khali is a great guy.
Afterlife
06-09-2009, 04:38 AM
This is upsetting.
Lord-Of-Darkness
06-09-2009, 07:05 AM
3MW return next year?
The Mackem
06-09-2009, 08:05 AM
I think WWE would have picked up Dutt before now if they were going to.
Outsider
06-09-2009, 08:06 AM
You know how I posted a topic pointing out that the fact that profits were down was very significant and some people said it wasn't?
I was right.
Theo Dious
06-09-2009, 09:19 AM
I just wish they'd stop firing guys Ive bought action figures of.
Theo Dious
06-09-2009, 09:21 AM
This one is pretty surprising. Possible wellness??
I was just thinking that. They could have decided to let him go after a strike 2 and not make much noise about it.
Mr. Nerfect
06-09-2009, 10:53 AM
I still think this could be pretty good for Eddie Fatu's career. The guy has got a lot of talent, and has really come unto his own. Umaga should have never worked, but the performer really made it (despite the usual monster booking that usually goes nowhere). With Samoa Joe now playing an Umaga rip-off in TNA (which is ironic), TNA bringing in Fatu could be very awesome.
Plus, Fatu is the kind of guy that can work in every division TNA has. He's big enough, credible enough and talented enough to work the main event; and he's agile and exciting enough against smaller opponents to work in the X-Division. I dream of a feud between Kurt Angle, Rob Van Dam and Eddie Fatu over the X-Division Title. I know, I am dreaming, but it could rule.
erickman
06-09-2009, 11:33 AM
3MW return next year?
wwe owns that name but i am pumped for the island boys joining joe in october, they would be a badass group with tazzzz.
erickman
06-09-2009, 11:37 AM
I still think this could be pretty good for Eddie Fatu's career. The guy has got a lot of talent, and has really come unto his own. Umaga should have never worked, but the performer really made it (despite the usual monster booking that usually goes nowhere). With Samoa Joe now playing an Umaga rip-off in TNA (which is ironic), TNA bringing in Fatu could be very awesome.
Plus, Fatu is the kind of guy that can work in every division TNA has. He's big enough, credible enough and talented enough to work the main event; and he's agile and exciting enough against smaller opponents to work in the X-Division. I dream of a feud between Kurt Angle, Rob Van Dam and Eddie Fatu over the X-Division Title. I know, I am dreaming, but it could rule.
i thought umaga was the ripoff, i rember when joe was undefeted an at his hight of popularty at tna. then vince brings fatu back calls him umaga gives him a monster undefeted streek.
Umaga was defo after Samoa Joe debuted in TNA.
Afterlife
06-09-2009, 04:25 PM
Hence the irony, gentlemen.
DAMN iNATOR
06-10-2009, 02:18 PM
Samoa Joe vs Samoa Jamal
So, would that be Joe's...3 Minute Warning?:shifty:
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UmbrellaCorporation
06-10-2009, 02:35 PM
If they did that they'd need to hold a Diva Search to replace them.
DO YOU WANT TO SUBJECT US TO THAT!?
Xero has a point here.
It's damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Mooияakeя™
06-10-2009, 05:31 PM
Fuck Umanga. That's all that ever made him entertaining. When Regal called him that.
Mr. Nerfect
06-11-2009, 09:21 AM
Hence the irony, gentlemen.
Yeah, thank you. Samoa Joe debuted in TNA; the Umaga character debuted in the WWE, complete with jabs at Joe; Eddie Fatu made the character work; Samoa Joe has been repackaged with a character that now seems like an Umaga rip-off.
Mr. Nerfect
06-11-2009, 09:22 AM
That's like Coca Cola doing well, Pepsi making shots at Coke, Pepsi actually doing well, so Coke decides to change its entire business strategy to look like Pepsi.
redoneja
06-11-2009, 12:56 PM
As reported on WWE.com on Monday, June 8, 2009, WWE Superstar Umaga (Edward Fatu) has been released from his World Wrestling Entertainment contract. However, consistent with the practice of announcing wellness policy violations, it should be noted that Umaga's termination was due to his second violation of the WWE Wellness Program and his subsequent refusal to attend a rehabilitation facility.
http://www.wwe.com/inside/industrynews/10492878
Volare
06-11-2009, 01:18 PM
Well holy shit.
I didn't even know he had one strike...
Vastardikai
06-11-2009, 03:29 PM
What strikes me as odd is this:
The possibility that maybe he refused to go to rehab because he didn't... I dunno... actually take the drugs?
I mean, it could have just as well been an "untouchable" pissing under his name. (aka: the 'Kai's favorite conspiracy theory as it pertains to wellness.)
Beyond that, the policy itself states he should have been suspended indefinitely, not released.
He may have asked for the release. That's what I heard he was telling people but it was before this was announced.
Vastardikai
06-11-2009, 03:35 PM
Didn't Booker T also deny the results of a Wellness Policy Violation one time?
Also, it's kind of intruiging that Bat's has surgery to repair torn biceps (kind of a suspicious injury, the kind he gets ALL the DAMNED TIME), but never pees bad.
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