Really, are they for serious with this? Lackluster. [Archive]

BigDaddyCool

06-16-2009, 10:08 AM

You know they were is Charlotte, NC. So naturally I was expecting Flair, plus I remember some sort of rumor saying he was going to be GM, that would have made sense and got a pop.

I was hoping it would have been Bischoff. I could have seen it go to Shane or even dare say HHH as a way for Vince to start fading out. It would have been completely crazy if it was Ted Turner.

But no, it was Trump? Really, that guy? What does he have to do with wrestling?

BigDaddyCool

06-16-2009, 10:08 AM

How do you own a brand anyhow?

Same way you don't need a belt because you are super over.

Gertner

06-16-2009, 10:11 AM

I have this odd feeling that this is something so stupid that it works.

Destor

06-16-2009, 10:12 AM

Same way you don't need a belt because you are super over.
Way to be a mark

BigDaddyCool

06-16-2009, 10:16 AM

Way to be a mark

Marks are what wrestling is all about.

BigDaddyCool

06-16-2009, 10:18 AM

I have this odd feeling that this is something so stupid that it works.

I don't. I have a feeling this is something so stupid they lost me as a fan.

Kane Knight

06-16-2009, 10:22 AM

Way to be a mark

When you can build a successful empire around smarks, let me know.

NeanderCarl

06-16-2009, 10:32 AM

They pretty much were doing it... then they decided they'd rather target dumb kids instead. To each his own.

True Brit Grit

06-16-2009, 10:40 AM

Wow. Three hours of my life I can never get back....

BigDaddyCool

06-16-2009, 10:40 AM

And you know what will really bring in dumb kids? Donald Trump's weird hair.

Kane Knight

06-16-2009, 10:43 AM

They pretty much were doing it... then they decided they'd rather target dumb kids instead. To each his own.

No, they were targeting teens and adults. Adult=/=smark.

Team Sheep

06-16-2009, 11:03 AM

Haha great. I loved the Trump/Vince feud in 2007. Glad it's back, some interesting drama.

Gertner

06-16-2009, 11:16 AM

At least it's something different.

legendkillerRKO

06-16-2009, 11:18 AM

I love all the people who say they lost me as a fan or i hate this...yet they will be tuned in next monday to see where this all goes...all that matters is that the belt is back where it belongs

Destor

06-16-2009, 11:21 AM

LOL

BigDaddyCool

06-16-2009, 11:25 AM

I love all the people who say they lost me as a fan or i hate this...yet they will be tuned in next monday to see where this all goes...all that matters is that the belt is back where it belongs

This the first time I've actually sat down and tried to watch since february. I don't think I'm tuning in again for a long time.

I've had personal issues that seemed more important than wrestling lately, and now that the issues have simmered down, I tried to watch. But if this is what they are doing, pass.

Destor

06-16-2009, 11:28 AM

When you can build a successful empire around smarks, let me know.
Well, I know you're completely unware of happening outside of the WWE but smarks have been used to build every modern raised promotion in the states (ECW, RoH, TNA) and every fan in Japan is smart so yeah. Not really a good joke/point.

BigDaddyCool

06-16-2009, 11:32 AM

Well, I know you're completely unware of happening outside of the WWE but smarks have been used to build every modern raised promotion in the states (ECW, RoH, TNA) and every fan in Japan is smart so yeah. Not really a good joke/point.

Again, when you have built a successful empire, let us know.

Destor

06-16-2009, 11:36 AM

The Jappaneese have done it.

BigDaddyCool

06-16-2009, 11:38 AM

Have you?

Destor

06-16-2009, 11:40 AM

OIC.

Yeah gotcha. What a stupid argument that is.

thedamndest

06-16-2009, 01:04 PM

There are probably lots more people who shouldn't own Raw. Rosie O'Donnell, Paris Hilton, Daniel Baldwin, you get the idea. Donald Trump is slightly above them in that he at least has SOME history with the wrestling business. I'm not just talking about shaving Vince, but he's hosted Wrestlemania a few times at Trump plaza (even though most of the current fans weren't born then).

That said, it would have made more sense to have somebody from the wrestling universe and not just with a passing affiliation to buy the show. Flair, Turner, Heyman, Shane, even Mike Adamle probably would have been better choices. This is a clear attempt a grabbing an audience, but with The Donald? He overstayed his pop culture welcome about four years ago.

That said, the matches featuring Smackdown superstars last night were quite good. Surprisingly, the Big Show looked dominant for a little bit. I hope that continues.

BigDaddyCool

06-16-2009, 01:11 PM

No, I see your point about he does have some passing history with the wrestling business. But it was just hard to watch when he was ranting about how he is going to give back to the WWE Universe and how great raw is but Vince has been running it into the ground or whatever. And then talking about how he is going to do something no one has done before by making it no commercials for one show. Who gives a fuck?

thedamndest

06-16-2009, 01:16 PM

Yeah, I would have preferred they not do the angle rather than get The Donald. Or get Flair. But I guess Flair can't give back to the WWE Universe AND make ET headlines.

I am glad Vince didn't do the whole giving back thing since it would have been his 1000th arbitrary face/heel turn. He's getting to be like Monty Burns with those trademark changes of heart.

erickman

06-16-2009, 01:33 PM

how long before trump names a gm i see trump geting board with this in 2 weeks, i do not see him being there every wneek. kind of wish he would name bischoff

Kane Knight

06-16-2009, 01:38 PM

Well, I know you're completely unware of happening outside of the WWE but smarks have been used to build every modern raised promotion in the states (ECW, RoH, TNA) and every fan in Japan is smart so yeah. Not really a good joke/point.

LOL ECW/TNA. I missed the time where they were an empire. That's like comparing a blogger to newscorp.

Let's stick to the US, though.

BigDaddyCool

06-16-2009, 01:38 PM

I was really hoping for bischoff or shane.

Kane Knight

06-16-2009, 01:46 PM

I was really hoping for bischoff or shane.

You know who I was hoping for?

Not Trump.

I was dreading the notion it might be Flair, but by comparison....

BigDaddyCool

06-16-2009, 01:52 PM

Xero

06-16-2009, 01:58 PM

It's like you're jerking off. You're sitting there, and you know what's going to be coming. But then a rabid dog bursts through the door and bites off your dick.

That's sort of like last night.

BigDaddyCool

06-16-2009, 02:07 PM

It is like sneaking into your parents closet in mid december to see all your present, then on christmas morning, you get socks, a wrench set, and some really nice suits...and there is no sign of the x-box anywhere.

06-16-2009, 02:08 PM

Fuck is going in here? :mad:

Droford

06-16-2009, 02:11 PM

I am predicting that he will sell it back to Shane in exactly 1 year, when the 6/15/10 Raw will be on his 64th Birthday.

Xero

06-16-2009, 02:12 PM

I'm predicting Trump leaves within two months, but not before plugging a new season of the Apprentice.

Kane Knight

06-16-2009, 02:13 PM

Exactly. I knew it would be someone boring...but Trump is just right out. It is like when someone is going to taco bell, and you give them a few bucks saying hey get me whatever this will buy. When they come back they give you a soda and 3 dollars in change.

Yeah, it's bad enough you were expecting Taco Bell, but to not even get that....

My main question really boils down to "to what end?"

I mean, I guess the answer is "ratings," but maybe a little more of a plan?

Evil Vito

06-16-2009, 02:15 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Donald Trump owning Raw is stupid, and was a huge let down. However, I'll admit I'm curious how long they go with this. Will Trump make appearances on the tron each week? (fuck knows he won't be there live each week).....and I have to admit I'd get a good laugh out of seeing Trump on the Raw Superstars page, if he makes it that far.</font>

Johnny Vegas

06-16-2009, 03:07 PM

trump owning raw is interesting. God, why dont you fucks just STOP WATCHING RAW. Its like complaining that your mom's house is so hot but you wont move out. I respect opinions but first ppl dont want shit to be predictable and you got it. God damn, give it a shot first b4 you shit on it. You guys are sounding like vince/hhh/steph in a meeting in 2003 with good ideas.

sulzerdrone

06-16-2009, 03:16 PM

You guys are missing the point. After watching the segment with Trump and Vince, It's obvious that Trump is exactly what the WWE universe needs. The most electrifying man in ZZZZZzzzzzzz...............

BigDaddyCool

06-16-2009, 03:17 PM

Johnny Vegas...we want things to be entertaining. Trump is not.

Johnny Vegas

06-16-2009, 03:34 PM

and how would you know if he hasnt had at least a month of his services

BigDaddyCool

06-16-2009, 03:35 PM

I'm noy sure if i get what you are saying. But I am sure you don't understand the comlaint.

sulzerdrone

06-16-2009, 03:39 PM

Trump did a program with Vince. Bored the shit out of me.

Now he's back, and cuts a long ass promo that guess what. Bored the shit out of me.

It may or may not be a good storyline, but for fuck sakes limit the mans mic time.

BigDaddyCool

06-16-2009, 03:42 PM

Exactly, his rant/barking about how awesome he is and how awesome raw is now that he owns it was annoying and boring.

Lock Jaw

06-16-2009, 03:45 PM

Was really hoping for JBL. That would have been amazing and a perfect fit.

I miss JBL. If he isn't going to wrestle anymore, that would have been a perfect opportunity to bring him back.

BigDaddyCool

06-16-2009, 03:51 PM

I was just thinking JBL would have made sence even.

Kane Knight

06-16-2009, 04:00 PM

BDC, your problem is you need to lowr your standards to placate Johnny Vegas.

Juan

06-16-2009, 04:18 PM

Sweet, no more BDC posts in the Wrestling forum. Now all we need is a ridiculous wrestling angle on Raw to get KK to stop posting in here.......

BigDaddyCool

06-16-2009, 04:20 PM

Jaun...i haven't posted in the wrestling forum for months already.

Juan

06-16-2009, 04:20 PM

Oh I know

BigDaddyCool

06-16-2009, 04:21 PM

Dick hole.

Ben Rodrigues

06-16-2009, 04:23 PM

This will lead to either John Cena or Triple H appearing on the next season of Celebrity Apprentice.

Johnny Vegas

06-16-2009, 10:44 PM

KK, why don't you become a writer for the WWE. Go ahead and put in a resume to the WWE, fly up to Conneticut to see Vince and discuss storylines with a cup of coffee. Maybe then we'll see how fucking brilliant you are not.

James Steele

06-16-2009, 11:22 PM

Kane Knight only writes shit nobody cares about.

legendkillerRKO

06-16-2009, 11:42 PM

Prolly next Apprentice will be for a job with WWE...they should have paid SCSA whatever he wanted to be RAW GM...that would have been freaking amazing!...or better yet....the new owner of Raw...Jeff Jarrett!!!!!!

Mr. Nerfect

06-16-2009, 11:47 PM

Yeah, it's like the WWE were really trying to shock and deliver a huge announcement with this, but it just sort of feels flat. So Donald Trump "owns RAW." What does that mean? I don't get why I should watch now.

Also, I'm a bit confused as to how Donald Trump could actually own RAW. RAW is part of the "WWE Universe" isn't it? So Donald Trump owns RAW, does that mean it is no longer part of the WWE? If it's still part of the WWE, then what does that make Trump? He has no power on SmackDown! or ECW.

To be honest, I just can't figure out how someone actually buying RAW away from Vince makes sense. I guess Trump would just own like 33% of WWE shares? I dunno.

James Steele

06-17-2009, 12:34 AM

Its a fucking storyline.

Destor

06-17-2009, 02:27 AM

LOL ECW/TNA. I missed the time where they were an empire. That's like comparing a blogger to newscorp.

Let's stick to the US, though.Yeah, ok. We'll stick to the ones that support your argument.

Sting Fan

06-17-2009, 03:15 AM

This will lead to either John Cena or Triple H appearing on the next season of Celebrity Apprentice.

Put them in a ring together and see who gets injured first, first injured "wins" being on the celebrity apprentice.

Johnny Vegas

06-17-2009, 10:03 AM

Its a fucking storyline.

lol thank you

BigDaddyCool

06-17-2009, 12:40 PM

A stupid story line.

DAMN iNATOR

06-17-2009, 12:42 PM

I remember sitting there Monday when Vince first spoke (from his backstage "office" or w/e), and I was seriously thinking he'd "sold" RAW to Ted Turner.

DAMN iNATOR

06-17-2009, 12:45 PM

BigDaddyCool

06-17-2009, 12:50 PM

starfox8500

06-17-2009, 01:10 PM

When you can build a successful empire around smarks, let me know.

...Junior Division?

wwe2222

06-18-2009, 08:17 AM

Ive only watched one Raw and one ECW since Wrestlemania. I happen to tune in to see Trump and it actually makes me want to tune in next week to see where they go with it.