If you had to choose between a Trish return and a Lita return...

[DAMN iNATOR]

Who would you hope returned more? Trish Stratus or Lita?

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[James Steele]

Trish

[#1-norm-fan]

My initial thought was "Why is this even a question? Trish by a mile."

The more I think about it though, I don't know. They would both bring different things to the table depending on how they were used. I'll still say Trish though.

Especially since the PG rating would leave Lita and all the jokes at her expense just lame and watered down.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Trish without even blinking before I answer.

[Kalyx triaD]

Trish, easily. They both did great things for the women's division, but Trish just embodies "WWE Diva" ya know?

[Heyman]

Although I want to give oral to both Trish and Lita, I would have to choose Trish.

[#1-norm-fan]

...I want to give oral to... Lita

You may want to think about that.

[Londoner]

Trish, easily.

[Heyman]

I had a dream once that Trish was beating me up, but I was enjoying it.

In my dream, Trish picked up and cradled me over her right shoulder. I don't know what she was going to do next, but I got a boner and it poked into the area between her shoulder and chest. She then said, "wow."

The dream ended and I woke up. I had cummed my pants.

This dream happened in 2000 by the way.

I was 19 at the time.

[Heyman]

You may want to think about that.


Thought about it.

Would still do it.

Even though the erections of Edge and Matt Hardy have been in there, I'd make sure that her shit was clean before doing the deed.

[TheHaunted]

Trish.
I wanna see her in a match against Nattie Neidhart

[Nicky Fives]

Trish....pairing her up with Jericho would be amazing

[Volare]

Trish, but you have to remember if she came back, her showing off any "assets" is gonna be thrown out the window.

[Blitz]

Let's see, either a super hot good wrestler who knows how to play a character and cut a promo, or a fairly good looking shit wrestler who's voice makes me want to put super glue in my ears. What a contest.

Trish, obviously.

[Destor]

I want to close this thread cause it's so rediculous. But I wont.

[Dorkchop]

Lita was never the same after her neck surgery. If she returned more solid in the ring I'd vote for Lita because she does bring something a little different. However, knowing how hard of a worker Trish is I have to go with her.

[Shadow]

Trish, but you have to remember if she came back, her showing off any "assets" is gonna be thrown out the window.

You mean the assests of kick ass wrestling or the assets of a fantastic pair of tits? Both work alone but I'd rather have Trish for her fantastic wrestling ability then her huge knockers.

[Stealth-Icon]

I will stick with Trish over Lita

[My Final Heaven]

Wow, not one vote for Lita yet :lol:

I'll vote what I always do when this kind of question comes up, a resounding "MOLLY"!

[ministrychick77]

i'll soundly go with lita.

trish was amusing, but that's it for me. she was a 'diva-turned-wrestler', while lita was just a wrestler.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

i'll soundly go with lita.

trish was amusing, but that's it for me. she was a 'diva-turned-wrestler', while lita was just a wrestler.

But Trish was a diva-turned-great wrestler where as Lita was a good wrestler turned to shit wrestler.

[Shadow]

But Trish was a diva-turned-great wrestler where as Lita was a good wrestler turned to shit wrestler.

Turned to walking joke.

[Jannettyzilla]

Trish's growth from debut to "retirement" was astounding. Lita was excellent in prime, but as time went on it was pretty evident Lita needed to be paired and Trish could hold her own.

So, despite anything I ever expected I'd say, I too pick Trish.

[Destor]

i'll soundly go with lita.

trish was amusing, but that's it for me. she was a 'diva-turned-wrestler', while lita was just a wrestler.
terrible logic

[Juan]

Yeah. Lita might have been just a wrestler, but in the end Trish was a way better wrestler than Lita.

[Destor]

Apparently if wrestling wasn't your first job then you can never be better than someone who went straight into it.

[ministrychick77]

well i'm sorry... i never really liked trish..

and lita.. well damn. always liked lita

[Destor]

nothing wrong with that

[Executioner]

Going with Trish....better wrestler...better promos....and ran the greatest Diva storyline with Mickie James....:)

[Kane Knight]

Trish without even blinking before I answer.

[Batista03]

Going with Trish....better wrestler...better promos....and ran the greatest Diva storyline with Mickie James....:)

Hell yeah, I always wanted a threesome with them. Trish all the way. At the end, Lita went to a good wrestler to a $5 hoe with I dont know how many STDs.

[Blitz]

But Trish was a diva-turned-great wrestler where as Lita was a good wrestler turned to shit wrestler.
Lita was a good wrestler?

[Heyman]

Lita was a good wrestler?

Before her neck injury, she was decent. She had good aerial ability and was also really good at sucking Edge's dick.

[Testicle]

Trish because she is hot.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I think pretty much the only real impressive move Lita actually had was that bullshit kick-back DDT facecrusher move...other than that she was just a strange woman who SEEMED to have the skills, but was always a half-step behind Trish's silhouette...

[Rammsteinmad]

Trish. :drool:

[CSL]

Couldn't care less about either of 'em :-\

[Rollerskategirl]

Trish. :drool:

[Nark Order]

Lita as a manager. Lita was absolutely awesome in her role with Edge and it really added alot. Besides, I don't like women's wrestling and generally think it's just a huge waste of time and money. Sure you have some good women's wrestlers but for every Beth Pheonix there seems to be like 5 Marias.

[Destor]

Only in the WWE...

[Nark Order]

Maybe. I've just never seen a women's match that couldn't have been done 10000 times better by men. I understand that sex appeal is part of it and that's why alot of them have jobs but I could turn it to any other station on television really and see scantily clad women all over the place. When I watch wrestling, I want to see wrestling.

[Destor]

you haven't seen enough wmoens matches then.

[Juan]

SHIMMER

[Juan]

Women Athletes

[Nark Order]

Well, considering I never really watch much from other promotions, I don't think I'll be going out of my way to watch a bunch of women's matches.

[Juan]

Your loss. It's a shame though, because it's that kind of attitude that will never allow a women's match to be taken seriously in WWE.

[CSL]

GAEA was where it was at for women's wrestling

[Nark Order]

What? I'm not saying that there aren't good women's matches in feds that aren't mainstream but I generally don't really watch other promotions. It's not even a "I don't watch anything but WWE" attitude, it's more of a time thing. I'll catch TNA once in a blue moon but that's really it.

Besides, my comments were made more towards women in the WWE. Women's matches are generally piss breaks.

[thedamndest]

I think WWE Diva's matches have made a lot of progress in the last ten years. We don't have women in bra and panties, we have women that can actually wrestle (for the most part), and we have matches on a regular basis. None of these things happened ten or even five years ago. The notion of using women as sexual objects to sell tickets is pretty deeply ingrained in the minds of the mainstream wrestling fan. Undoing that thought process is going to take a lot more years of Trish Stratuses before people stop seeing it as the piss break match.

[Juan]

Besides, my comments were made more towards women in the WWE. Women's matches are generally piss breaks.

This is the attitude I was talking about. Most wrestling fans are programmed to hate women's wrestling, so much so that the term "piss break" has become a cliche.

Granted, some of the women in WWE aren't the the best athletes, but sometimes they will pop out a good match, but you will never hear about it because everyone is on a "piss break"

[Destor]

Too true

[Nark Order]

It is not my fault or the general fault of the viewers to see these matches as a piss break. We've been conditioned to view women's wrestling as a complete waste of time by the WWE, not by our own accord. I feel like the WWE owes me some money for all of the bra and panties matches, gravyboat matches, and french maid pillow fights I've been subjected to over the years. The women's title is generally booked on the undercard, is never really made to seem like it is worth much of anything, is constantly switched back and forth between talented and non-talented ladies, and we are encouraged not to watch the actual moves but pay more attention to the "puppies". The WWE has made every possible effort to make sure that Women's wrestling is not taken seriously. What do you want me to do here?

[Juan]

What do you want me to do here?

I dunno, don't let WWE brainwash you?

[James Steele]

Form your own fucking opinion and not use the lame "WWE makes me think this way" excuse for why you are a sexist.

[thedamndest]

The WWE has been making lots of efforts to "class up" their Divas wrestling. They don't have the slut matches anymore. Yes, the title is on the undercard, but is also on a PPV more often than either the US or IC title (or both). As for switching the title back and forth between talented and untalented people, I guess that never happens with the men, right?

[Jannettyzilla]

They need to gimmick up the women's matches. Like ladder matches and stuff. I've seen Beth and Katie Lea do it, there's no reason the likes of Mickie, Maryse, Michelle, etc. couldn't too.

[Nark Order]

Form your own fucking opinion and not use the lame "WWE makes me think this way" excuse for why you are a sexist.

I do have my own opinion, you guys just don't like it. I think Women's wrestling is a complete waste of time and money. I've already explained to you all why. Am I not allowed to think this way?

I never said that there isn't a good women's match once in a blue moon because there is. But why should I not view WWE Women's matches as a pissbreak when they have like a 10% success rate? Maybe they are trying to class it all up again but it's just going to take a little more time before I can start taking it seriously again after all they damage they did to it over the years. I've had as much halloween gavy pillow panties on a pole matches as I can handle here.

Once again, I'm not saying any of you are wrong for liking it. I just don't and think it is a waste of time. Maybe it's time to be more accepting of those with conflicting opinions?

[Juan]

It's one thing to have opinion, but it's a another to let what WWE had done in the past to form the opinion for you.

[Nark Order]

Why would I not let the actions of the WWE help form an opinion about an aspect of the WWE?

[Juan]

Why would I not let the actions of the WWE help form an opinion about an aspect of the WWE?

Think outside the box, dustin.

[Nark Order]

Now who's speaking in cliches?

[Juan]

I'm not trying to come off a *huge* women's wrestling mark, but I just don't think it gets a fair shake in today's era.

[Nark Order]

Cool, that's your opinion. It think it's a huge waste of time and money, as previously stated.

[Juan]

Now who's speaking in cliches?

Vintage deflection. You must have learned that from RP.

[Juan]

Cool, that's your opinion. It think it's a huge waste of time and money, as previously stated.

Yeah because WWE told you so lol

At least my opinion is my own and now what I've been "conditioned" to believe.

[Nark Order]

What am I deflecting? What do you want answered here? I'll be happy to answer your questions but I think you guys are getting a little hostile here over something silly.

I think you're right. I don't think Women's wrestling gets a fair shake these days but it isn't my fault of the fans faults for thinking it's inferior. WWE made a complete joke out of it for almost a decade.

[Juan]

Vintage Narc.

Just admit that you were brainwashed by WWE and I'll be on my way.

[Nark Order]

Yeah because WWE told you so lol

At least my opinion is my own and now what I've been "conditioned" to believe.

I don't really think I understand what you're trying to say here. You're telling me that I'm just "another face in the crowd" as far as all of this goes because I don't like Women's wrestling in WWE based on WWE's portrayal of Woman's wrestling over the past 15 years? What else do I have to judge it off of other than the programming I am subjected to?

[Destor]

Cool, that's your opinion. It think it's a huge waste of time and money, as previously stated.And you've also previously stated that you've been condition to feel this way. Which EXACTLY like saying you're not thinking for yourself.

[Destor]

Narc will of course argue in circles for the next thrre pages to avoid admitting any fault.

[Destor]

DEFINE BETTER

[Juan]

I don't really think I understand what you're trying to say here. You're telling me that I'm just "another face in the crowd" as far as all of this goes because I don't like Women's wrestling in WWE based on WWE's portrayal of Woman's wrestling over the past 15 years? What else do I have to judge it off of other than the programming I am subjected to?

I'm saying that you have been brainwashed by WWE. Nothing more, nothing less. You can spin it any way you like.

[Nark Order]

No, I think you guys are either misunderstanding what I'm saying or are just trying to get a rise out of me. WWE rarely gives time to Women's matches, rarely has talented ladies competing (which is getting less common these days but you still have alot of useless Divas around), doesn't make a big deal out of Women's competition, and tells us to pay more attention to the ladie's bodies rather than their in ring skill on purpose. They basically set them up to fail before hand. I don't take the division seriously because the matches are subpar, there is no character development (not in all cases, but generally), and the people making the program don't even take them seriously.

I'm saying that over the course of the past 10-15 years, I just haven't been interested in the matches or the way that the entire division is portrayed. I'm not saying that these Women do not have the potential to put on great programming, but they really aren't even given a chance to do so. Alot of you think I'm saying that Women in general can't perform and that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that the way the division works and the amount of time they are given to perform, it's nearly impossible to be taken seriously. Do I think that Beth and Mickie could main event a RAW for the Women's title in a 2 out of 3 falls match? Yes, I do and it would probably be pretty damn good, but will it happen? No. It won't. We will mostly likely get a gravytrain match instead.

[James Steele]

I've just never seen a women's match that couldn't have been done 10000 times better by men.

You can edit that post now.

[Nark Order]

I haven't. I usually only watch WWE and I never really see great women's matches the way that the division is. I know it's much easier to paint me out as sexist than to really listen to what my actual point of view is but come on. lol

[Destor]

No, I think you guys are either misunderstanding what I'm saying or are just trying to get a rise out of me. WWE rarely gives time to Women's matches, rarely has talented ladies competing (which is getting less common these days but you still have alot of useless Divas around), doesn't make a big deal out of Women's competition, and tells us to pay more attention to the ladie's bodies rather than their in ring skill on purpose. They basically set them up to fail before hand. I don't take the division seriously because the matches are subpar, there is no character development (not in all cases, but generally), and the people making the program don't even take them seriously.

I'm saying that over the course of the past 10-15 years, I just haven't been interested in the matches or the way that the entire division is portrayed. I'm not saying that these Women do not have the potential to put on great programming, but they really aren't even given a chance to do so. Alot of you think I'm saying that Women in general can't perform and that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that the way the division works and the amount of time they are given to perform, it's nearly impossible to be taken seriously. Do I think that Beth and Mickie could main event a RAW for the Women's title in a 2 out of 3 falls match? Yes, I do and it would probably be pretty damn good, but will it happen? No. It won't. We will mostly likely get a gravytrain match instead.
You're right. They aren't given the chance to...BY YOU. And why? Because the WWE isn't putting them over.

you = tool

[Rob]

Lita. You see, I like Trish and I hope she is successful and happy enough outside the wrestling business to never have to come back. I actually hope Lita is too but if one of them had to return, I'd pick her.

[James Steele]

Narc, you are blaming the WWE when you are enabling the WWE. You are no worse then a family member who cries over their sibling doing crack but you'll take them to go buy a damn rock.

[Destor]

Somehow I enjoy the womens matches WWE puts out there that deserve it, and how you ask? I watch them and give them a fair chance. Im not blindly letting the WWE years of conditioning me to dislike something on site. If that were the case I would take a piss during tag matches and crusierweight matches too.

[Nark Order]

Alright Destor, I won't go take a piss the next time there is a bra and panties match. Will this make you happy?

[Destor]

ONLY MALE SINGLES MATCHES FEATURING A MEMBER OF THE KLIQ ARE WORTH MY TIME!

+CENA MATCHES! YAY!

[CSL]

This thread got ridiculous quickly

[Juan]

No, I think you guys are either misunderstanding what I'm saying or are just trying to get a rise out of me. WWE rarely gives time to Women's matches, rarely has talented ladies competing (which is getting less common these days but you still have alot of useless Divas around), doesn't make a big deal out of Women's competition, and tells us to pay more attention to the ladie's bodies rather than their in ring skill on purpose. They basically set them up to fail before hand. I don't take the division seriously because the matches are subpar, there is no character development (not in all cases, but generally), and the people making the program don't even take them seriously.

I'm saying that over the course of the past 10-15 years, I just haven't been interested in the matches or the way that the entire division is portrayed. I'm not saying that these Women do not have the potential to put on great programming, but they really aren't even given a chance to do so. Alot of you think I'm saying that Women in general can't perform and that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that the way the division works and the amount of time they are given to perform, it's nearly impossible to be taken seriously. Do I think that Beth and Mickie could main event a RAW for the Women's title in a 2 out of 3 falls match? Yes, I do and it would probably be pretty damn good, but will it happen? No. It won't. We will mostly likely get a gravytrain match instead.



You're broadening the subject matter here. The point is that you think women's matches in WWE are a waste because that's what WWE has conditioned you to believe. You either need to broaden your horizons and watch other wrestling besides WWE or not let WWE's booking have such profound impact on you.

[Destor]

Alright Destor, I won't go take a piss the next time there is a bra and panties match. Will this make you happy?
Feel free to piss during those...can't even remeber the last one of those I saw tbh but their only purpose is smut unlike a WRESTLING MATCH. Which somehow you are confusing.

You can tell a smut gimmick from a match right?

[Destor]

This thread got ridiculous quicklyIt started that way

[Nark Order]

You're broadening the subject matter here. The point is that you think women's matches in WWE are a waste because that's what WWE has conditioned you to believe. You either need to broaden your horizons and watch other wrestling besides WWE or not let WWE's booking have such profound impact on you.

If I hear that the matches are good, I usually go back and watch them on DVR. As it stands, there are rarely outstanding Women's matches in the WWE. I've said nothing about the quality of them in other promotions because I rarely watch other promotions.

You guys just don't want to hear that somebody doesn't like something that you like. I was willing to leave this as just conflicting opinions, you guys dragged this out into something bigger than it was.

[Destor]

If I hear that the matches are good, I usually go back and watch them on DVR. As it stands, there are rarely outstanding Women's matches in the WWE. I've said nothing about the quality of them in other promotions because I rarely watch other promotions.

You guys just don't want to hear that somebody doesn't like something that you like. I was willing to leave this as just conflicting opinions, you guys dragged this out into something bigger than it was.No it's REALLY not that. You being so close minded that women's wrestling isn't worth your time is thre problem.

[Juan]

No it's REALLY not that. You being so close minded that women's wrestling isn't worth your time is thre problem.

Exactly.

I couldn't care less what you do or don't like, it's your logic that is bugging the shit out of me.

[Nark Order]

No it's REALLY not that. You being so close minded that women's wrestling isn't worth your time is thre problem.

That's not what I said. I told you that I'll go back and watch the matches on DVR if I hear that they are good. It's just like matches involving guys that I don't think work well (Henry, Koslov, etc.). I don't usually watch them unless I hear it's something I should watch. The track record for women's matches just isn't very good given the amount of time that is given to them and the talent that the WWE chooses to display sometimes.

[Juan]

Seems like no matter what we say, you're still going at have an "out" so this is really pointless now.

First women's matches aren't worth the time, now you're saying you'll go back and watch them if you hear they're good. Make up your mind, then get back to me.

[Destor]

That's not what I said. I told you that I'll go back and watch the matches on DVR if I hear that they are good. It's just like matches involving guys that I don't think work well (Henry, Koslov, etc.). I don't usually watch them unless I hear it's something I should watch. The track record for women's matches just isn't very good given the amount of time that is given to them and the talent that the WWE chooses to display sometimes.
Right and instead of judging them based on being bad workers (like Henry and Koslov) you judge them on their vaginas. I dont give a lot of attention to the matches from the "divas". No different then the poor male workers. But the girls who CAN wrestle? All eyes on the screen. And the WWE has a good number of girls who can go. But you wouldn't know that cause you're in the bathroom.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/845/trishlitasuperiorpicscombrapan1.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

They really liked each other.

[Destor]

..and lol, the womens wrestling is only worth his time if someone else tell him about it.

[Nark Order]

An "out"? Am I supposed to get on my knees, tell you you are right, suck your dick, then shoot myself in the head for causing you trouble or something? What do you want? I don't think any of us are right or wrong. You really want me to say I'm wrong here but I don't think I am. I think it's a matter of opinion.

I already said in the beginning that there are some good women's matches but you don't want to acknowledge that. I've said all that can be said on the matter. Either agree or disagree.

[Juan]

An "out"? Am I supposed to get on my knees, tell you you are right, suck your dick, then shoot myself in the head for causing you trouble or something?

You're ridiculous. YES NARC THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT.

[Destor]

I agree with Juan that you're a sexist closed minded tool.

[Xero]

I've got to side with Narc here. The vast majority of women's matches in WWE are pretty terrible and sloppy and are generally there for the eye candy. I won't shit on the entire concept of women's wrestling, because I know there are a lot of great female wrestlers out there. But WWE's concept of women's wrestling is not what women's wrestling should be.

[Juan]

Plus, it's hard to take your opinion on this matter seriously, when it changes from post to post.

[Nark Order]

You're ridiculous. YES NARC THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT.

Why is it that of all the stuff I say, you only acknowledge like the first sentence?

[Juan]

I've got to side with Narc here. The vast majority of women's matches in WWE are pretty terrible and sloppy and are generally there for the eye candy. I won't shit on the entire concept of women's wrestling, because I know there are a lot of great female wrestlers out there. But WWE's concept of women's wrestling is not what women's wrestling should be.

That's fine, but what Narc initially said was that women's wrestling was not worth his time.

[Juan]

Why is it that of all the stuff I say, you only acknowledge like the first sentence?

Post #99

[Destor]

I've got to side with Narc here. The vast majority of women's matches in WWE are pretty terrible and sloppy and are generally there for the eye candy. I won't shit on the entire concept of women's wrestling, because I know there are a lot of great female wrestlers out there. But WWE's concept of women's wrestling is not what women's wrestling should be.If that was what Narc was saying it would be fine. Instead of lumping all the talented women they do have up with the diva trash and shting on all the quality angles they've actually had over the years.

Plus, it's hard to take your opinion on this matter seriously, when it changes from post to post.Seriously.

Again my only issue has been stereotyping and generalizing.

Basically being a closedminded tool.

[Destor]

..and when Diva trash comes up when you're talking baout Trish and/or Lita you know you really don't get the difference.

[Nark Order]

Plus, it's hard to take your opinion on this matter seriously, when it changes from post to post.

It never changed, you're just trying to interpret it differently from how you know that I meant it. I know some Women's matches are good and I said that from the beginning but most of them aren't. Some due to the talent of the women in the ring and some due to WWE's inability to see them for anything else than eye candy. Believe it or not, WWE's portrayal of Women's wrestling does effect the quality of the matches.

[Theo Dious]

Not that anyone is taking this thread serious anymore, but Lita. Anything you're going to get from Trish is the same old shit Trish has done before. She's either going to be the happy, springy, clean-cut uber-Diva or the vaguely trashy prissy pseudo-bitch. There are still a few things that might be done with Lita; consider that she's never had any kind of real push that didn't latch her onto a guy. Trish has been tapped dry (That one was also sexual! Giggity!) while Lita could still do a thing or two new. I'm not saying that WWE WOULD do anything different with her, but whereas with Lita they MIGHT, with Trish they WON'T.

Plus, and I refuse to apologize to everyone out their with the libido creativity of a 13 year old, but I'd take a trashy redhead over a barbie-doll blonde any day.

[Nark Order]

That's fine, but what Narc initially said was that women's wrestling was not worth his time.

And most of it isn't. I still think that. I said from the beginning though that there are sometimes great performers and great matches. Yoiu guys just don't want to hear that.

[Xero]

If WWE doesn't give two shits about women's wrestling, why should we?

And I'm not talking about in general, but in the WWE.

And ask MC, she knows first hand Vince's opinion on this.

[road doggy dogg]

Women Athletes

:lol:

[Nark Order]

If WWE doesn't give two shits about women's wrestling, why should we?

And I'm not talking about in general, but in the WWE.

This was my original argument. When I say it though I'm brainwashed.

[Destor]

And most of it isn't. I still think that. I said from the beginning though that there are sometimes great performers and great matches. Yoiu guys just don't want to hear that.And see hear's the problem, most is. Most in the WWE? No. But fuck that goes for men too. But there is an insane ammount of AMAZING female wrestling and you will never know about because you only do what th eWWE wants you to.

[Destor]

If WWE doesn't give two shits about women's wrestling, why should we?

And I'm not talking about in general, but in the WWE.

And ask MC, she knows first hand Vince's opinion on this.Because Im not Vince's puppet mostly. By that logic we should all be Cena marks.

[Juan]

And most of it isn't. I still think that. I said from the beginning though that there are sometimes great performers and great matches. Yoiu guys just don't want to hear that.

Yes, you've said this already and trust me, I BELIEVE YOU, but my problem is with the "women's wrestling isn't worth my time" mentality.

[Juan]

:lol:

that's the tag line for SHIMMER

[Juan]

If WWE doesn't give two shits about women's wrestling, why should we?

And I'm not talking about in general, but in the WWE.

And ask MC, she knows first hand Vince's opinion on this.

Vince doesn't give a shit about internet wrestling smarks either, but yet here we are...

[CSL]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__NAcoJmQSDM/SZwWPPpxoxI/AAAAAAAAAhg/3DO0Tyimjes/S692/lita6vvxf5.jpg

http://www.blazinbeauties.com/images2/trish%20stratus/trish_stratus12.jpg

[Xero]

My point is that the way he books it, it SHOWS that he doesn't give a fuck. If they put women wrestlers out there in almost every match and completely ignored storylines I'd be contempt to watch the matches. Instead we're subjected to terrible piss break matches.

[Xero]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__NAcoJmQSDM/SZwWPPpxoxI/AAAAAAAAAhg/3DO0Tyimjes/S692/lita6vvxf5.jpg

holy hell

[Destor]

My point is that the way he books it, it SHOWS that he doesn't give a fuck. If they put women wrestlers out there in almost every match and completely ignored storylines I'd be contempt to watch the matches. Instead we're subjected to terrible piss break matches.
The same with half the roster.

[Juan]

My point is that the way he books it, it SHOWS that he doesn't give a fuck. If they put women wrestlers out there in almost every match and completely ignored storylines I'd be contempt to watch the matches. Instead we're subjected to terrible piss break matches.

I think people miss the good ones because of said piss breaks. Like i said earlier, most wrestling fans are programmed to hate women's wrestling, so when there IS a good match, you will never hear about it because everyone is on a piss break.

[Nark Order]

Yes, you've said this already and trust me, I BELIEVE YOU, but my problem is with the "women's wrestling isn't worth my time" mentality.

Well, more along the lines of "Women's wrestling in WWE isn't worth my time" I still think that. Most of the time, it isn't worth my time. There are times that I'll watch it, but as a general rule, unless it is a special circumstance I typically use the Women's match as my piss break. I don't think it's sexist at all. It's just MOST OF THE TIME, the women's match is one of the worst matches on the program. Whether it's how the match is handled, how much time it is given, or a lack of talent from the participants, it usually is a subpar performance. I'll throw in another "in my opinion" if it will make you feel better.

[Juan]

Michelle McCool (who I had never really cared for as a wrestler) and Gail Kim had a great match on Smackdown about a month ago, yet you will never hear about it because women's matches are "piss breaks"

[KYR]

This thread has turned into the Wrestling Forum's piss break.

[Nark Order]

Michelle McCool (who I had never really cared for as a wrestler) and Gail Kim had a great match on Smackdown about a month ago, yet you will never hear about it because women's matches are "piss breaks"

I remember a match between the two on Smackdown that was like 3-4 minutes long. Was there another?

[Testicle]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__NAcoJmQSDM/SZwWPPpxoxI/AAAAAAAAAhg/3DO0Tyimjes/S692/lita6vvxf5.jpg



I can't believe that Matt Hardy got to hit that for 6 years, lucky fuck.

[Juan]

I remember a match between the two on Smackdown that was like 3-4 minutes long. Was there another?

Yeah, they had a number of matches on Smackdown.

[DAMN iNATOR]

http://www.onscreenbabes.co.uk/Lita_Amy_Dumas/lita14b.jpg
(hint: lita + boobs= :drool:)

[Kalyx triaD]

hint: FAKE

[CSL]

Surely even you realize that is faker than fake crates on a fake ship

[Kalyx triaD]

Good effort, though. I'd do Lita. If it was 2004. And then 2006. But not in 2009.

[Testicle]

He can dream can't he?

[Testicle]

Good effort, though. I'd do Lita. If it was 2004. And then 2006. But not in 2009.

Why? What does she look like now?

[Kalyx triaD]

Normal.

[Kalyx triaD]

Still:

http://www.topfloormusic.com/keywords/Amy_Dumas/Amy_Dumas_1.jpg

She was hot.

[Destor]

I in no way ever found Lita attractive. The only thing she had was boobs and she had to pay for them. epic fail for her parents.

[Kalyx triaD]

I always thought she was cute. I found it funny when Edge's ex-wife said she looked like a man, though.

[Destor]

I completely agree with her.

[Kane Knight]

I dunno, don't let WWE brainwash you?

Brainwashing's a pretty harsh term here. Narc may not particularly like the idea based on a poor product, but that alone doesn't make him brainwashed.

Most people don't take wrestling as anything more than a passtime at best, casual entertainment. And honestly, you shouldn't really have to hunt for casual entertainment.

But more importantly, if you think disinterest in women's wrestling is tied to WWE, I think you're a little out of touch with society. At least, American society. Women's atheltics are either highly sexualised or considered secondary, a joke, or all three of the above.

I'm not sure why we'd expect much different from wrestling fans en generale.

I know a lot of smarks love to scour for wrestling, but that's not a one size fits all mentality.

[Jannettyzilla]

Today's divas (at least on RAW, which I'm accustomed to) are far more talented than the divas 8-9 years ago....but the divas then were given far more time.

So silly.

[Juan]

Brainwashing's a pretty harsh term here. Narc may not particularly like the idea based on a poor product, but that alone doesn't make him brainwashed.

Most people don't take wrestling as anything more than a passtime at best, casual entertainment. And honestly, you shouldn't really have to hunt for casual entertainment.

But more importantly, if you think disinterest in women's wrestling is tied to WWE, I think you're a little out of touch with society. At least, American society. Women's atheltics are either highly sexualised or considered secondary, a joke, or all three of the above.

I'm not sure why we'd expect much different from wrestling fans en generale.

I know a lot of smarks love to scour for wrestling, but that's not a one size fits all mentality.

Blah blah blah. Way to take what I said out of context and at the same time make it a point that you're not a smark or a part of the IWC. I GET IT. You're a casual and I'm a loser for being a smark.

[Juan]

Most people don't take wrestling as anything more than a passtime at best, casual entertainment. And honestly, you shouldn't really have to hunt for casual entertainment.

I know a lot of smarks love to scour for wrestling, but that's not a one size fits all mentality.

I said that looking into other feds was an option he could explore if he wanted to see a different side of women's wrestling, instead of what WWE force feeds him, not that he NEEDS to to be a huge internet nerd smark carny like me.

[Nark Order]

But I already said that I wasn't going to do that because I really don't have the time or the desire to make the time based off of what I've already seen. Whether you like it or not, my attitude towards women's wrestling is pretty much a common attitude. Everybody I know that likes wrestling thinks more or less the same thing and women's matches are typically looked at as 'pissbreaks' among the fans I know. Once again, not entirely based off the lack of wrestling skill from the females because alot of them are talented, but just the way the division is treated in general. It's almost as if they put the matches on the air just to fill time or to actually provide a piss break. But I'm sure I'll remain brainwashed and sexist...

And KK DOES have a bit of a point here. How about just Women's sports in general? Tell me Juan. You are a Basketball fan and a huge fan of the Lakers. Do you provide equal time or any time at all watching the WNBA? Why or why not?

[thedamndest]

Do you really think they've gone to all the trouble to give the Divas a classier look, give them PPV and TV time (often over US/IC or the tag team division), and actually increase the standards of the women they hire to intentionally provide a piss break? Barring the fact that most of the shows have 60 commercials/recaps, if you can't hold your urine for 2-3 hours you should see a specialist.

[Juan]

But I already said that I wasn't going to do that because I really don't have the time or the desire to make the time based off of what I've already seen. Whether you like it or not, my attitude towards women's wrestling is pretty much a common attitude. Everybody I know that likes wrestling thinks more or less the same thing and women's matches are typically looked at as 'pissbreaks' among the fans I know. Once again, not entirely based off the lack of wrestling skill from the females because alot of them are talented, but just the way the division is treated in general. It's almost as if they put the matches on the air just to fill time or to actually provide a piss break. But I'm sure I'll remain brainwashed and sexist...

And KK DOES have a bit of a point here. How about just Women's sports in general? Tell me Juan. You are a Basketball fan and a huge fan of the Lakers. Do you provide equal time or any time at all watching the WNBA? Why or why not?

Dude, now you're just repeating yourself. I GET IT

And yes, I do watch WNBA. Candace Parker ftw

[parkmania]

I in no way ever found Lita attractive. The only thing she had was boobs and she had to pay for them. epic fail for her parents.

Um, it seems that a significant percentage (trying to choose my words carefully here) of female wrestlers that have smaller frames end up getting plastic surgery. Mainly because that part of the anatomy is fatty tissue, and when a person exercises, they are burning fat.

So in order to not look like Flatty McFlatterson, there's 3 options for these ladies: a) get surgery, b) pad it, c) be out of shape for what's required in the ring.

[Theo Dious]

I'd also like to point out that I've actually fucked a girl who bore something of a resemblance to Lita, only somewhat less mannish and less bony.

[Destor]

Um, it seems that a significant percentage (trying to choose my words carefully here) of female wrestlers that have smaller frames end up getting plastic surgery. Mainly because that part of the anatomy is fatty tissue, and when a person exercises, they are burning fat.

So in order to not look like Flatty McFlatterson, there's 3 options for these ladies: a) get surgery, b) pad it, c) be out of shape for what's required in the ring.Yeah, I know this. My point was how nothing about her is attractive save her fake boobs, wasn't giving her a hard time for having them.

[The Mackem]

If you've gotta go, you've gotta go Narc. Don't piss on your mom's sofa or anything.

[Nark Order]

I've already gone many times during this thread, whether it was on the sofa or otherwise. Want to know a secret, though? So has everybody else that was arguing with me here, they're just better at hiding it. ;)

[AJHayes]

I'm going to have to say Molly with Trish as a close second.

I would be quite pleased with a molly vs. Beth Phoenix feud.


I was a Lita fan up until she became the "Rated R Herpes Scar."