Silva wants Mir? [Archive]

HeartBreakMan2k

08-21-2009, 01:26 PM

Anderson Silva wants big-money event fights. And he's willing to work at heavyweight to make sure they happen.

Not only that, they already had an opponent in mind: Frank Mir.

Disinterested by middleweight contenders Nathan Marquardt, Demian Maia and Dan Henderson, and unwilling to fight close friend Lyoto Machida at light heavyweight -- where Silva could conceivably knock off challengers and make a disaster out of the UFC's marquee division -- "The Spider" needs new, challenging scenarios to stay motivated. A move to heavyweight would certainly achieve that, and according to Silva's manager Ed Soares, the UFC was receptive to the idea.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/8/20/996538/josh-gross-anderson-silva-wants-to

Anyone heard anything of this? And I seriously think that Anderson is looking past Henderson a little too far.

Goulet

08-21-2009, 03:16 PM

:nono:

Ol Dirty Dastard

08-21-2009, 03:20 PM

Shake your head but Anderson Silva vs. Frank Mir would be a lot of fun.

IC Champion

08-21-2009, 03:38 PM

Anyone heard anything of this? And I seriously think that Anderson is looking past Henderson a little too far.

He already beat Henderson once. Since then Henderson has just gotten older and slower.

Loose Cannon

08-21-2009, 03:39 PM

wow, that would be a good fight. Then will he go after Brock?

Vastardikai

08-21-2009, 04:16 PM

He SHOULD worry about Maia, though.

Reavant

08-21-2009, 05:01 PM

Anyone heard anything of this? And I seriously think that Anderson is looking past Henderson a little too far.

Yea its been reported by loretta hunt on sherdog so its probably pretty truthful

He SHOULD worry about Maia, though.

eh not really

redoneja

08-21-2009, 05:23 PM

He SHOULD worry about Maia, though.

What Reav said.

Vastardikai

08-21-2009, 05:55 PM

redoneja

08-21-2009, 06:16 PM

I agree with you on Maia. He's easily one of the top jujitsu guys in all of MMA, across all weight classes. And the Sonnen fight definitely proves that (again regardless of how overrated Sonnen may or may not be). Maia's takedown and transistion from mount to that triangle were tremendous.

Still, all fights start standing and no matter how great I could put over Maia's jujitsu, I do question his ability to ground Anderson Silva and to keep him down long enough to work a submission. I'm not saying Maia couldn't, I just think he would matchup in a similar fashion that Leites did.

Savio

08-21-2009, 06:24 PM

Kimbo......:shifty:

redoneja

08-21-2009, 06:26 PM

Back to the original topic, I'd definitely be interested in a Mir/Silva matchup. I'd rather see Silva stay on top of 185 or move up to 205 permanently but I'd still buy Mir v Silva

The Mask

08-21-2009, 06:27 PM

i don't think silva needs to fear many people on the ground, seeing as he is a bjj black belt.

redoneja

08-21-2009, 06:33 PM

Kimbo......:shifty:

Ya know, let's say Silva decided to just do 'dream matchups' or face random opponents across divisions for his last few fights on this contract, then I would want him to fight Randy Couture.

i don't think silva needs to fear many people on the ground, seeing as he is a bjj black belt.

Just because you're a black belt in an art doesn't necessarily mean you a top notch practitioner. Now, I'm not saying Silva's jujitsu is shit or anything, I'm just pointing out a fact that I've come across during my time training in martial arts.

Jura

08-21-2009, 06:36 PM

My Jiu-jitsu is stronger than yourssssssssss!

Funky Fly

08-22-2009, 02:52 AM

Silva could take Mir.

Reavant

08-22-2009, 05:38 AM

Just because you're a black belt in an art doesn't necessarily mean you a top notch practitioner. Now, I'm not saying Silva's jujitsu is shit or anything, I'm just pointing out a fact that I've come across during my time training in martial arts.

actually thats exactly what it means... at least its supposed to mean that. Some teachers hand them out like candy, but considering silva has one probably fro the nogiera brothers or a gracie, then his shit is top notch. He did submit lutter.

Reavant

08-22-2009, 05:43 AM

Maia is basically Thailes Leites, only he knows how to pull guard. He has one of the best submission games at MW. And, if the Chael Sonnen (overrated, I know, but still) fight was any indication, he can go upstairs for a takedown if need be.

Anderson Silva is very good, but he has weaknesses against good Jiu Jitsu guys. If Lutter had a gas tank, he could have pulled out an upset. The hard part is getting to the ground. Or hell, being conscious by the time you can get close enough to get in takedown position.

I think the fight with Marquardt will open a few eyes. Either Marquardt will prove that he's taken his talent to the next level, or Maia will prove he's for real. I just can't go against Maia, though.

Maia doesnt like "hurting" his opponents but hes going to get past that if he wants to fight silva. Aside from the fact that he has to get past silva's reach Maias takedowns are not technical at all so hes going to have to rely on pulling gaurd, and we see what happens when fighters pull gaurd on anderson.

This match might as well be named silva-leites 2

Impact!

08-22-2009, 06:01 AM

He got his black belt from minotauro, so I'd say he definetly knows his shit...it just depends how good his MMA jitsu is...

Goulet

08-22-2009, 10:38 AM

Silva just needs to man up and fight Machida

redoneja

08-22-2009, 01:04 PM

actually thats exactly what it means... at least its supposed to mean that. Some teachers hand them out like candy, but considering silva has one probably fro the nogiera brothers or a gracie, then his shit is top notch. He did submit lutter.

Yea, that's what I was getting at. A McDojo Black Belt =/= a black belt from the Nog brothers or Gracies, etc. Again, not insinuating that Silva doesn't know his jits or anything.

Dave Youell

08-22-2009, 07:01 PM

I would want to see this fight, and the see Silva knock out Brock......

Ok, the latter may not happen, but man, that would be awesome!