College Football 2009 Thread

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The obligatory 736 Tebow shots per quarter aren't nearly as irritating when his team is getting stomped.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

lolllllllllllllll Tebow can barely speak

[McLegend]

Great stuff

[RP]

goodbye Tbone

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Let's go Huskers.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

No one seems to have noticed that Texas has had a cakewalk of a schedule this year because the Big 12 is terrible. Texas has beaten 1 team that's currently ranked. The computers actually have Cincinnati ranked ahead of Texas in the BCS because Cincy's played a tougher schedule.

[Emperor Smeat]

Not completely surprised that Florida could lose since they have been struggling against average to decent teams this year with a lot of lucky wins compared to last year's team.

[Droford]

Texas Losing = BCS CAMERA 6 WORST CASE SCENARIO !

I could honestly see the BCS breaking down and ending up with a Alabama/Florida rematch that would absolutely suck

[Emperor Smeat]

Supposedly the way the teams are ranked and even though Cincy is rated higher than Texas in the computer polls, it wouldn't be that hard for the human polls or the weight of the Alabama quality win to boost Florida to #2. Realistically it won't happen but theoretically its possible since the human polls can still influence the title game.

Would suck badly since BCS tried as hard as possible to ensure no repeat games a few years ago when Michigan-OSU was near top of the polls and the game itself was good enough to be considered a possible repeat but the other conferences and voters complained.

[Droford]

Nebraska is about to pull off the upset..

wow

[McLegend]

Aw man he kicks it out of bounds.

[Emperor Smeat]

:rofl: wtf was Texas doing with that last play. 1 second left but could have been game over from how dumb the play was.

[McLegend]

AWWWWWWWWWwww

[Droford]

blah..

Alabama will crush Texas

[Droford]

Bowl Pickem (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/bowl)

Someone should set that up.

[Skippord]

hook them horns

[Skippord]

TCU is better than Texas I think

weird

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>UCONN :love:

So glad they got to end on a happy note</font>

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Ending of the Texas game was weak as hell. Horse collar tackle than the replay with 1 second left, FUCK THAT

[Supreme Olajuwon]

If TCU gets matched up with Penn State or Iowa, they might win by 40.

[Emperor Smeat]

Bowl busters TCU and Boise State set to face each other in Fiesta Bowl and not anyone from the Big 4 (Big 10, Big 12, Pac-10, SEC).

Rose Bowl: Oregon vs Ohio State
Fiesta Bowl: Boise State vs TCU
Sugar Bowl: Cincinnati vs Florida
Orange Bowl: Iowa vs Georgia Tech
BCS Title: Texas vs Alabama

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Even in the BCS Selection Show, they have to talk about fucking Notre Dame. Let's not talk about the kids who played their asses off to be the best in the country. No let's talk about shitty ass 6-6 Notre Dame

[Emperor Smeat]

Normally I'd say its because Notre Dame has its own "contract" with the BCS along with the big 6 conferences but yes I agree. If Notre Dame refused to play a bowl, then they don't deserve to be talked about on the show. Leave that to ESPN with their 24/7 coverage.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Alabama vs. Texas sounds boring as hell. This was the BCS' chance to give a "non-traditional" team a chance in the big game and they went with the usual suspects. As good as TCU were this year I can't see them ever coming this close to the title game again.

Also feel terrible for Boise State. A consistently good program yet they can't get any of the "top schools" to agree to play them despite them waiving the right to have to play at Boise State.</font>

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Wish they would flip Iowa & Boise.

Boise State vs TCU is retarded, they just played recently in a bowl game. Wanted to see something different

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Computers had UC in the title game, voters had them fourth. Gotta love the unbiased system.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Pains me that the BCS isn't going to change anytime soon.</font>

[RP]

Smooth how the BCS put TCU vs Boise St against eachother so they can avoid and future justification that one of them should get a National Championship bid. Instead of TCU beating someone like Florida and staking a claim that the system is unfair, they'll get to beat Boise St and prove nothing.

[owenbrown]

fuck the BCS

[BCWWF]

Mizzou gets passed over for a better bowl for the third straight year.

In 2007, Mizzou was 11-2 after losing to Oklahoma in the Big 12 Championship Game. Then the Orange Bowl took 11-1 Kansas, who Mizzou had beaten TWO weeks earlier.

In 2008, Mizzou was the Big 12 North Champion and had beaten Nebraska head-to-head, but was passed over for the better bowl (at least this one is justifiable).

Now in 2009, Mizzou was 8-4, beat Iowa State in Week 10, but for whatever reason the Insight Bowl took 6-6 Iowa State instead. Now Mizzou is in the Texas Bowl.

On one hand, who cares? The money is the same (except travel expenses) and the Insight Bowl is a joke anyway, but it just goes to show that the system is flawed.

[Ermaximus]

BCS needs to just go away for good. Why can't they adopt a system like the NCAA basketball does? Start with the 64 best teams, work down to 32, to 16, etc. etc. But no, some fat, overpaid dipshit who is part of some booster club at said well known school gets to decide who goes where. FUCK THAT NOISE. I'm a big Gator fan, but I honestly will say that TCU deserves a title shot over Texas. Texas got lucky as shit against Nebraska. Whatever though, it's all a flawed system anyways. Roll Tide Roll. Bring the SEC another title I guess.

[Loose Cannon]

Clausen and Tate are both gone from the Irish. They will be entering the NFL Draft. Not surprising

[BCWWF]

BCS needs to just go away for good. Why can't they adopt a system like the NCAA basketball does? Start with the 64 best teams, work down to 32, to 16, etc. etc. But no, some fat, overpaid dipshit who is part of some booster club at said well known school gets to decide who goes where. FUCK THAT NOISE. I'm a big Gator fan, but I honestly will say that TCU deserves a title shot over Texas. Texas got lucky as shit against Nebraska. Whatever though, it's all a flawed system anyways. Roll Tide Roll. Bring the SEC another title I guess.

It's likely to do with the fact that there is no room for an additional six college football games, and the fact that a 64-team playoff would entirely ruin the significance of a regular season.

Four teams, aka plus-one, might work, unless there are five teams. Eight teams is too arbitrary.

The most logical and fair playoff, in my opinion, would be to take the 11 major conference champions and then five wildcards, with seeds based on BCS rankings. I've done this before on TPWW, so might as well do it again:

1. Alabama (SEC)
2. Texas (Big 12)
3. Cincinnati (Big East)
4. TCU (Mountain West)
5. Florida (Wildcard 1)
6. Boise State (WAC)
7. Oregon (Pacific-10)
8. Ohio State (Big Ten)
9. Georgia Tech (ACC)
10. Iowa (Wildcard 2)
11. Virginia Tech (Wildcard 3)
12. LSU (Wildcard 4)
13. Penn State (Wildcard 5)
14. Houston (C-USA)
15. Central Michigan (MAC)
16. Troy (Sun Belt)

Under this system, the biggest snub of 2009 would be No. 14 Brigham Young.

This also gives some significance to the smaller conferences. As it stands, there is no reason why the Sun Belt, MAC, C-USA, or WAC should be considered Division 1-A. Mountain West is at a severe disadvantage as well.

I personally think it would be a lot more fair to give every conference one entry than to arbitrarily pick the top eight teams and continue to reward the rich.

But again, this is obviously inconceivable due to time limits, which is why I think the Plus-One format would be the best (while also putting some significance back to the BCS bowl-ties)

[Ermaximus]

I could work with that BCWWF.

[BCWWF]

I'm bored at work:

Round 1
1. Alabama (SEC)
16. Troy (Sun Belt)
Result: Alabama

8. Ohio State (Big Ten)
9. Georgia Tech (ACC)
Result: Georgia Tech
----
4. TCU (Mountain West)
13. Penn State (Wildcard 5)
Result: Penn State

5. Florida (Wildcard 1)
12. LSU (Wildcard 4)
Result: Florida
----
3. Cincinnati (Big East)
14. Houston (C-USA)
Result: Cincinnati

6. Boise State (WAC)
11. Virginia Tech (Wildcard 3)
Result: Boise State
----
7. Oregon (Pacific-10)
10. Iowa (Wildcard 2)
Result: Oregon

2. Texas (Big 12)
15. Central Michigan (MAC)
Result: Texas
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Round 2
1 Alabama
9 Georgia Tech
Result: Alabama

13 Penn State
5 Florida
Result: Florida
----
3 Cincinnati
6 Boise State
Result: Boise State

7 Oregon
2 Texas
Result: Texas
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Round 3
1 Alabama
5 Florida
Result: Florida
----
6 Boise State
2 Texas
Result: Texas
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Championship
5 Florida
2 Texas
Result: I am so glad it did not come down to this!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I like that idea BCWWF.

Only thing - I'd like to see the five wildcards automatically slotted in at 12-16 depending on BCS standings...I dunno, kinda like how in other sports the weaker division winners get better seeds than the Wild Card teams.</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

House branch of Congress passes NCAA Football Playoff bill out of the comittees and should be debated/voted on soon by the rest of the House and Congress. If it becomes a law, BCS could either be in trouble for breaking anti-Trust laws if Justice Department investigates or make it illegal to promote a national title game without a playoff.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4727426

[BCWWF]

That's stupid and ridiculous. There is no reason why a league has to have a playoff to determine the winner.

[Emperor Smeat]

I don't believe the bill would state you can't declare a champion without a playoff but you can't be promoting a championship when its based on votes and not merit or on the idea of every game is important.

The bigger issue is how much a mess the BCS is since before being undefeated guaranteed a spot and now its 1 spot given automatically to the SEC and then the other is split between the Big 10, Big 12, or USC. If they didn't keep changing how the title game occurs, they probably don't have to worry about Congress getting involved if it passes and it probably won't unless the Justice Department gets involved.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Brian Kelly you stupid faggot

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>He's not even going to coach the Sugar Bowl. Wow.

Reading the articles, the Cincy players are pissed the fuck off...and deservedly so.

Just makes me hate Notre Dame even more.</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

He must hate BCS Bowls. He just gave up his last chance to coach in one.

[Gonzo]

He must hate BCS Bowls. He just gave up his last chance to coach in one.

lol

[Ermaximus]

Wow, I hope the Cincy fans make his last days there miserable for him walking out on them to be the coach of the piss poor "Fightin' Irish." Fuck Notre Dame, nobody cares about them anymore.

[Skippord]

Lou Holtz would like to have a word with you

[Ermaximus]

Lou Holtz would like to have a word with you

:-\

[BCWWF]

How can you blame Brian Kelly? Cincinnati is never going to have another season this good, and even if they do they will still be snubbed for a national title spot by a Big Ten, Big 12, SEC team or USC.

I'm sure he is also getting a substantial raise. And it's not like Notre Dame can't compete. I mean, 06 and 07 they were in a BCS bowl. Even this year they had one of the best offenses in the nation. It is complete bullshit when people claim Notre Dame can't get the top recruits anymore for academic reasons.

[Evil Vito]

How can you blame Brian Kelly? Cincinnati is never going to have another season this good, and even if they do they will still be snubbed for a national title spot by a Big Ten, Big 12, SEC team or USC.

I'm sure he is also getting a substantial raise. And it's not like Notre Dame can't compete. I mean, 06 and 07 they were in a BCS bowl. Even this year they had one of the best offenses in the nation. It is complete bullshit when people claim Notre Dame can't get the top recruits anymore for academic reasons.

<font color=goldenrod>I think it's a dick move because he's bailing on his team before the Sugar Bowl. Leaving for Notre Dame is one thing, but leaving before your team plays in its Bowl game is crap.

It might not even be his fault...but if Notre Dame said "Accept the offer now or you're out of the running," then shame on them.</font>

[BCWWF]

I haven't seen the details (are they public yet?), but these type of things seem like they are often 50/50. Sometimes the coach stays on to finish what he started, sometimes he leaves so as to not be a distraction.

Personally, I guess I can see how it might be awkward for Cincinnati to have Notre Dame's coach during the Sugar Bowl.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

He left now so he could recruit. Honestly the only reason I'm angry about this is because of the media. Stuff like this happens all the time. In fact, Kelly did this to Central Michigan when he went to Cincy. But that doesn't make it less shitty.

[Ermaximus]

He left now so he could recruit. Honestly the only reason I'm angry about this is because of the media. Stuff like this happens all the time. In fact, Kelly did this to Central Michigan when he went to Cincy. But that doesn't make it less shitty.

See also Nick Saban leaving the Miami Dolphins to go to Alabama. :shifty:

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Its funny though because as soon as this dies down, the talk will shift to "Ok what MAC or C-USA coach can we get to come to Cincy"

[Ermaximus]

Its funny though because as soon as this dies down, the talk will shift to "Ok what MAC or C-USA coach can we get to come to Cincy"

BRB. Gonna google the coaches at UCF and USF.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

USF is in the Big East

[Shadow]

Rich Rodriguez did this to WVU just before the Suger Bowl too.

Huh....what is with Big East Coaches leaving just before the Suger Bowl anyways?

[Shadow]

Sorry Fiesta Bowl.

[Droford]

Jim Harbaugh's going to Kansas for double the money Stanford was paying...wont be coaching them in their Bowl game.

I bet he ends up as a bust there..but since he's the brother of John Harbaugh, I hope he does good.

[Loose Cannon]

yes, what Kelly did is shitty, but it happens all the time. It's part of college football. Like Supreme said, it's Notre Dame, so the media is all over this one.

Great signing though for the Irish. I like Kelly. Now they just have to make up thier minds if they want to be Florida or if they want to be Harvard. Can't be both.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

It's interesting to note that Kelly only spent 3 years at CMU and UC. That means he's never coached a senior class that he recruited. It means he hasn't proven that he can recruit. He might end up being a huge fraud.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

He's an offensive guy though, ND's problem isn't their offense. Should have hired a defensive coach, like the D-Coordinator from Florida. Not a big name but I think it would have been a better move. Instead they hired another big name guy who is cashing in on that big name. I dunno it might work but I wouldn't be surprised to see it fail. As for not being able to recruit I somewhat agree, ND the last few years has got some of the biggest top recruits in the nation, however they have struggled with securing depth.

I know he is going to make a lot more at ND but I think I would have rather just stayed at Cinncy. I feel the same way about Rich Rodriquez at Michigan, I know he's making a lot more at Michigan and has an opportunity to get that program back, but I would much rather put a program on the map for the first instead of bringing a program back onto the map.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I'm also really hyped for the BC/USC bowl game. I know most people probably don't have the same feeling but I've been following the BC program a lot recently since I am from the area and a former teammate is a captain there. I also follow the USC program because I am big fan of Pete Carroll's coaching style and use a lot of his ideas with my own team. On top of that they are playing the San Francisco Giants' stadium, which creates an interesting dynamic since the lay out is a lot different than the usual football stadium.

[Emperor Smeat]

The post-game celebrations of Army-Navy game is probably one of the best things about college sports and pro sports. Biggest game of the year for either school and yet when its done both sides literally come together to support each other in songs and respect.

[Droford]

Gerhart should have won, lost by a measly 5 votes..

At least Tebow finished dead last.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'm happy with the result...woulda been happy with Gerhart and Suh as well.

Kinda was pulling for Suh just because defensive players get no respect...but knew he wouldn't win.</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

Surprised at McCoy being in 3rd since him and Tebow had a "down" year similar to Bradford before he got hurt. Also a bit surprised at Suh being in 4th since its rare for a defense position to be nominated for the Heisman.

Good choice with Bama's RB as winner since he basically was the "powerhorse" for Alabama this year.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

McCoy lost it in the Big 12 Championship game, where as Ingram won it in his conf. championship game. I figured McCoy was still going to finish 2nd though

[BCWWF]

Glad Ingram won. Definitely didn't want McCoy and especially Tebow. Wouldn't have minded the Nebraska defender, just for something different, but I don't like Nebraska.

In general though, I think Ingram was the best choice for a year in which there wasn't really any definitive choice.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Urban Meyer is stepping down. Wow.

For personal reasons...gotta assume something health related with the family or something.</font>

[Droford]

Urban Meyer is stepping down. Wow.

For personal reasons...gotta assume something health related with the family or something.

Tim Tebow.

He knows what next year is gonna be like...they'll absolutely suck.

[Kris P Lettus]

No way he is leaving cause of Tebow.. It's either an illness or he's going to the NFL..

[ClockShot]

I was thinking the same thing, Tim Tebow was leaving.

But as I'm watching ESPNews right now, I'm hearing an illness of some sorts.

Hope all is OK.

[Kris P Lettus]

He said something about ignoring his health and a new finding that made him reevaluate his life in his statement..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

If BC had a decent QB they would have been pretty good this season. Was still a pretty cool bowl game though with it being in the Giants Stadium. Made it a bit interesting

[RP]

Who's that saftey BC has. He looks pretty tough.

[Kris P Lettus]

If BC had a decent QB they would have been pretty good this season. Was still a pretty cool bowl game though with it being in the Giants Stadium. Made it a bit interesting


It was a crazy game.. Alot of weird fumbles and whatnot.. Too bad USC won though..

[Emperor Smeat]

Urban Meyers decides against resigning and wants to take the year off instead.

Makes a bit harder to believe its just stress or health issues when everyone knows Florida is going to be in rebuilding mode without Tebow and a few other players. Also a bit unfair on the interim coach since he's basically in a lose-lose situation because if Florida struggles, they will blame him and if Florida is back to being a power, Meyers comes back and takes the job away from him.

[BCWWF]

The whole Urban Meyer thing is pretty odd, with him now apparently not resigning? But I doubt it had anything to do with Tebow etc.

A program like Florida over the past couple years doesn't just disappear because some star players left. They are in a boat with USC now, in my opinion. USC was still very relevant after Leinart and Bush, and will probably be back in contention for a national championship again before long after this season.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I'm sure he thought about it before this season, but how could he leave when he had that team around him?

It's silly to think he's just doing it to hide from a rebuilding year. They'd still be in the running for the SEC title.

[BCWWF]

Spot on, really.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Who's that saftey BC has. He looks pretty tough.Bowman, he had a real good game against USC.

This Urban Meyer thing is pretty stupid, could have waited until after the season to do this. Now he isn't even resigning. I think its dumb how much attention is being paid to it now, hopefully Cinncy goes out there and smashes them now.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

It's pretty crazy how much stuff is happening to both coaching staffs for the Sugar Bowl.

UC head coach- left for Notre Dame
UF head coach- leaving after game
UC offensive coordinator- staying for game then going to Buffalo
UF defensive coordinator- left for Louisville

[Emperor Smeat]

Can't forget about the Big 12 and their coaches the last 2 months:

Kansas head coach - resigned due to player abuse complaints
Texas Tech coach - suspended due to player abuse complaints

[Supreme Olajuwon]

the Mike Leach stuff at Tech is such bullshit and now ESPN is running with it because the kid's dad is an analyst

[ClockShot]

the Mike Leach stuff at Tech is such bullshit and now ESPN is running with it because the kid's dad is an analyst

Texas Tech fires Mike Leach because of it.

[BCWWF]

That is terrible. This morning CBS Sportsline published a good handful of e-mails written by Texas Tech current and former players. They all vouched for Leach's credibility and blasted Adam James as being an entitled, lazy jackass.

http://dennis-dodd.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270202/19238949

But reading the story on ESPN, I have to wonder if either Texas Tech is really fucked up with internal politics and whatnot, or if they actually did discover something about Leach that justified firing him. But the statement from Leach is pretty scathing:

"Over the past several months there have been individuals in the Texas Tech administration, Board of Regents and booster groups who have dealt in lies and continue to do so," the statement read. "These lies have led to my firing [Wednesday]. I steadfastly refuse to deal in any lies and am disappointed that I have not been afforded the opportunity for the truth to be known.

"Texas Tech's decision to deal in lies and fabricate a story which led to my firing includes, but is not limited by, the animosity remaining from last year's contract negotiations. I will not tolerate such retaliatory action. Additionally, we will pursue all available legal remedies."

If Leach is to believed, Texas Tech is absolutely retarded and Leach will probably come out ahead. We know he is a great football coach. Almost any other Big 12 or Big Ten team would give him better resources, and I'm sure he could find a good fit in a lot of other conferences as well.

I just think that if Texas Tech fires a guy who has been an institution at their school, respected by many, and really put the program on the map, they better have a good reason. I believe Leach had one of the longest tenures of any Div. 1 coach.

After reading those CBS e-mails, this just really came out of left field to me.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol @ the Adam James cellphone video

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Leach got fired the day before he was guaranteed $800,000. CONVENIENT

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

He is a weird ass dude

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Bowling Green-Idaho was really good today. Then Nebraska beat the fuck out of Zona. Whatup RoXer

[DAMN iNATOR]

WOO! The playing field has become slightly more balanced for this Saturday's game with my Michigan State Spartans facing Texas Tech...I'll mark the fuck out if we win.

[redoneja]

Air Force's Triple Option and #1 rated pass defense destroyed Houston's Spread. The Mountain West remains undefeated in bowl games this season, with TCU the only team left in the conference to play a bowl.

[Emperor Smeat]

Florida State wins final bowl game for Bobby Bowden, 33-21 vs West Virginia.

[Buzzkill]

DUCKS DUCKS DUCKS QUACK QUAACK QUACK SCHOOL SPIRIT YEAH

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Florida is killing Cinncy, really wish a TCU or Boise State was playing UF.

[SammyG]

Jesus, this is a great sendoff for Tebow.

[redoneja]

As a Florida fan, I'm glad to see the Gators dominate but I can't help but feel for Cincy in regards to their coach abandoning them right before their biggest bowl game to date. Gives me another reason to root against Notre Dame.

[RatedGSuperstar]

The Big Ten would like to have a word about not being able to keep up with the speed of other conferences. Wisconsin dominates Miami, Penn State knocks off LSU, and Ohio State puts together one hell of a defensive effort holding Oregon to 17 points. They're a one point loss by Minnesota to Iowa State and an overtime loss by Northwestern away from being unbeaten in bowl play (that was one of the craziest games I've ever seen, BTW -- Northwestern's QB threw the ball 75 times). Pretty impressive given the amount of shit the conference as a whole gets.

[SammyG]

Tebow, with 4 seconds left in the first half : 20-23, 320 yards, 3 TDs

[redoneja]

The Big Ten would like to have a word about not being able to keep up with the speed of other conferences. Wisconsin dominates Miami, Penn State knocks off LSU, and Ohio State puts together one hell of a defensive effort holding Oregon to 17 points. They're a one point loss by Minnesota to Iowa State and an overtime loss by Northwestern away from being unbeaten in bowl play (that was one of the craziest games I've ever seen, BTW -- Northwestern's QB threw the ball 75 times). Pretty impressive given the amount of shit the conference as a whole gets.

Yea, not gonna lie, I've been pretty down on the Big 10 this year but they've stepped it up in bowl games this year. A convincing Iowa win over GATech would cement the Big 10's success this year.

Never would have thought that the two best bowl conferences this year would be the Mountain West and Big 10.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Michigan State is gonna have a real good shot at beating Texas Tech too with all this Mike Leach stuff going on.

[McLegend]

14 of Michigan State players are suspended though.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

haha seriously?

[ClockShot]

Jesus, the Bearcats got blown away. Either Tebow and Meyer wanted to go out with a bang. Or Brian Kelly was the brains behind Cincy's run this year.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I think this would've happened regardless. Florida was just way more talented. Good thing Kelly left when he did.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Like 85% of the bowls are being played in half full stadium. After watching a regular season of seeing all these teams play in jammed out stadiums it just doesn't seem right to end the season this way. I understand why it happens, but still.

[Emperor Smeat]

ESPN News has been doing the Tebow career montages for the last few hours like he is the greatest player ever in NCAA when they already did the same before with USC Leinhert and Bush and players before that.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>UConn</font> :)

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I dunno Tebow's definitely one of the 10 best college football players ever. And this is ESPN we're talking about.

[Nervous Ferret]

Houston Nutt

[Emperor Smeat]

I dunno Tebow's definitely one of the 10 best college football players ever. And this is ESPN we're talking about.

I don't blame ESPN or Florida for building his hype up except for the fact that during his time there, the RBs never got much chances in the Red Zone and he kind of killed off Chris Leak's NFL potential after the 1st title win.

ESPN already got burned before when they over-hyped players such as Leihnert (and Bush to an extent) last time they pull off the recent greatest player ever.

[McLegend]

haha seriously?

Yeah some of the players got in some fight like a month and a half ago.

[ClockShot]

I am quite proud of my Uconn Huskies today. Almost went flawless and kicked shit out of "The Old Ball Coach" and his Gamecocks.

Jasper must have been smiling upstairs. :'(

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I still can't believe a kid I played football with (he actually backed me up) now starts for UConn at guard. He was a year younger than me but still, I wasn't exactly an all state performer lol. Guess it pays to be 6'5 280 pounds when you are in high school, college teams are willing to take a gamble on it. He's really advanced a lot thanks to their weight training program, he's a beast now.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

They are playing the Texas Tech/Michigan State game at the Alamo Dome, I didn't realize it was still around. I know the Spurs don't play there anymore - so what else do they use it for? The rodeo? Seems like there would be a lot of overhead associated with keeping a stadium open without a regular professional/college using it.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Maybe they're waiting for another hurricane so they can get the Saints back

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I see it's sponsored by Valero. Wrote a nice little case study about that company in one of my graduate management classes a few weeks ago. Dunno if sponsoring a bowl game is that great of a business move for them!

[Team Sheep]

I still can't believe a kid I played football with (he actually backed me up) now starts for UConn at guard. He was a year younger than me but still, I wasn't exactly an all state performer lol. Guess it pays to be 6'5 280 pounds when you are in high school, college teams are willing to take a gamble on it. He's really advanced a lot thanks to their weight training program, he's a beast now.

Sadly, that's what scouts are like these days. They look for the tall guys then build them up from there. This guy I played rugby with 2 years ago, he was a Tongan so naturally big and had the potential to be a monster if conditioned properly. He was never anything spectacular. I started over him as flanker, fast forward to today he plays professionally for the Gwent Dragons. It's crazy.

Bottom line is, you could have all the skill and ability in the world, but if you're not tall or big then 99% of the time the big clubs won't even look at you. Same with a guy a year below me in school, he always had an awesome boot on him but average in overall play. The Dragons have had him under their wing the past few years and made him into an all round great player with a hell of a physique, and he's on the verge of turning professional.

[Team Sheep]

I watched the Cotton Bowl today. What a fucking mess.

[RatedGSuperstar]

From Texas Tech's administration, paraphrasing: "The person to blame for Mike's firing is Mike."

:shifty:

...Vince McMahon didn't screw Mike Leach. Mike Leach screwed Mike Leach.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Sadly, that's what scouts are like these days. They look for the tall guys then build them up from there. This guy I played rugby with 2 years ago, he was a Tongan so naturally big and had the potential to be a monster if conditioned properly. He was never anything spectacular. I started over him as flanker, fast forward to today he plays professionally for the Gwent Dragons. It's crazy.

Bottom line is, you could have all the skill and ability in the world, but if you're not tall or big then 99% of the time the big clubs won't even look at you. Same with a guy a year below me in school, he always had an awesome boot on him but average in overall play. The Dragons have had him under their wing the past few years and made him into an all round great player with a hell of a physique, and he's on the verge of turning professional.Well my friend who is about my size ended up getting a scholarship to play at Boston College so it's not all tied to size. I get what you are saying though, if you have unusual size it can definitely help make up for a lack of skill. Especially when it comes to offensive line play at the ocllege ranks, they can develop a kid who is 6'6 300 pounder into a good player. They can't really do with 6'0 215 pound high school offensive tackle

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Michigan State is wildin' out right now

Just ran a fake FG then the following play a WR took a direct snap in the "wildcat" and threw a TD pass.

[Vastardikai]

From Texas Tech's administration, paraphrasing: "The person to blame for Mike's firing is Mike."

:shifty:

...Vince McMahon didn't screw Mike Leach. Mike Leach screwed Mike Leach.

Yeah, it's not like ESPN was calling for his head, despite a BLATANT conflict of interest. Or that Texas Tech's administration was looking for a reason to fire him anyway.

[Skippord]

I would've fired Mike Leach too

but for being a really weird apparent douchebag

[BCWWF]

A shame about Leach, but it is starting to sound like Leach was starting to become kind of a mess there himself. Hopefully he can find a new place, and I hope Texas Tech becomes a miserable program for the foreseeable future.

As far as Kelly, as they said during the game, it's a shame, but it's not his fault. If you are going to switch coaching jobs, especially in that situation, Notre Dame isn't willing to wait. You have to go. The announcers were saying something has to be done, and I think implementing a rule that you can't begin talking to other schools' coaches until after the bowls would be fair.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Well I think the worst thing is hiring a new coach before Cincy even played in the bowl game. I would think it makes a bit weird for the players, since they 100% know for sure that the head coach for the bowl is only the head coach for that one game. I just think that would be a bit of an odd situation as a football player.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Well Cincy's interim coach went to Buffalo, so they knew he was only coach for a game anyway.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I thought a different assistant went to Buffalo, not one named the interim coach.

[Skippord]

TCU and Boise is going to be very good tonight I think

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Nah it was the interim coach/offensive coordinator

[McLegend]

This Troy/Central Michigan game is great.

[Droford]

Texas is fucked without McCoy.

[McLegend]

This game is over and there is like 5 minutes left in the 1st half.

[BCWWF]

Does anybody know why the GMAC Bowl was the second to last? It really is embarrassing to the bowl system that something like that happens. I understand this year was different with New Years Day being a Friday and then having a whole weekend to spread the games out. But something really has to be done to put the good games back on New Years Day.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

To be fair, since New Years Days its been pretty much the "good games," other than that one.

Its pretty lame that McCoy is out in this game. They aren't gonna make up 18 points.

Also heard that the back judge in this game does local EMass high school football games on his "off" weekends. There's a (slim) chance he reffed one of my games that I either played in or have coached in. That's pretty cool I guess?

[Droford]

OMG..he kicked it right off the Alabama player and it bounced right back to Texas..

Amusing way to get back in the game after that 44 yard TD

[Emperor Smeat]

That was an amazing onside kick by Texas. Almost never see the kicker try to deflect the kick from a defender (tough to do if defender is aware).

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Guess I was wrong about this game being lame

[McLegend]

Business has kind of picked up.

[Droford]

Alabama hasn't done anything in the 2nd half after it looked like they would run away with it. Pretty amazing game.

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeah Texas defense is what's keeping them in the game since Bama's been a bit too bland with all the predictable running. You can tell for a while Bama just wanted to run out the clock or use their dominate running backs to end the game faster.

[Droford]

I dont think Texas has enough time for a TD but they could get in FG range.

It would be epic if this went OT.

and just like that, Alabama's D shows back up and seals the deal.

[McLegend]

C'mon hold them to a field goal.

[Droford]

Saban looked pissed off after the Gatorade bath...

[DAMN iNATOR]

Well, another great season comes to an end, and it couldn't be a more fitting one for 'Bama, and their legendary coach, Nick Saban, who on this night became the only man to coach 2 separate teams (who was the other? LSU?) to National Championships in Division I college football.

My hat is off to you, Mr. Saban. Kudos on a great year!

[DAMN iNATOR]

See also Nick Saban leaving the Miami Dolphins to go to Alabama. :shifty:

Saban on jumping between teams all the time: (paraphrased) "Wherever the big money trail is! Bye now!:wave:"

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Ya it was LSU

lol @ the Gatorade bath

[redoneja]

I didn't realize the SEC was 6-0 in BCS title games and is the only conference with a winning record in BCS title games. I think they also have had more different teams make it than any other conference (Tennessee, LSU, Florida, Alabama). That's pretty stunning.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

South Florida fires Jim Levitt for allegedly grabbing a player by the throat and smacking him in the face.

At least he got his money's worth.

[Vastardikai]

I didn't realize the SEC was 6-0 in BCS title games and is the only conference with a winning record in BCS title games. I think they also have had more different teams make it than any other conference (Tennessee, LSU, Florida, Alabama). That's pretty stunning.

I've also read that 2 of the last 4 SEC Title Games were more closer than the National Title Games.

[BCWWF]

To be fair, since New Years Days its been pretty much the "good games," other than that one.

The point I think is more than New Years Day used to be the day. That's undoubtedly one of the reasons why the NHL Winter Classic is so successful.

[redoneja]

Lane Kiffin is going to be the new head ball coach at USC.

[Miotch]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Couldn't have hoped for a better, or more swift, resolution to Pete leaving. I'm thrilled to say the least.

Now let's just get past the NCAA without infractions for past misgivings and we should be OK going forward.

[ClockShot]

Whaaaaaaaaaaat?

The Fossil fired his ass in Oakland, and now he's going BACK to California to run USC?

Plus the 1 and done season at Tenn. Kinda wanna knock the guy out if I was a freshman on that football team.

[McLegend]

What a dick.

[Innovator]

I hope he gets shanked while leaving Tennessee

Seriously are these NCAAA coaching contracts written on a napkin from Denny's? They hold no weight

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Well it's the universities' faults that the coaches can breach contracts. The schools have every legal right when a coach leaves, but they often choose not to use any. And it's because they don't want to scare away their next hire. Nobody is going to want to come coach for the school that sues its coaches when there are other options out there.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Kiffin is a good fit for USC but I'm surprised he is dipping on Tennessee after just one season. I'm assuming that USC was his dream job because if things go bad at USC and he gets shit canned I don't see anyone lining up to hire him after this ditch move.

I bet if he knew that the USC job was going to open up this year he wouldn't have gone to Tennessee, probably would have just went back to being the OC at USC again, like he was prior to the Raiders job.

Another thing that's kinda getting swept under the rug is the fact that Norm Chow is coming back to coach the offense at SC too. Things were pretty good last time he was there...

[Supreme Olajuwon]

It's definitely a good move for Kiffin but I'm surprised that it was the best move for USC. I mean we don't even know for sure if the guy can coach.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I'm guessing USC wanted to name Kiffin the heir apparent like Jimbo Fisher at FSU and Joker Phillips at Kentucky and Will Muschamp at Texas, but didn't because he left or because they thought Carroll would be around forever.

I'm really surprised they didn't go hard after Chris Petersen at Boise State.

[BCWWF]

Yeah, really surprised by this. Kiffin to this point is all a name. He went to Oakland and did nothing (might not have been his fault). In one year at Tennessee he was nothing spectacular.

You'd just think that USC, with the location, the money, the reputation, resources, etc, could have had its pick. I'm not surprised they picked a big name over a promising but relatively unknown coach, but at least in my head Lane Kiffin carries a bad stigma. Will be interesting to see if he turns it around.

Although the coordinators he is bringing in are huge. Who knows?

[redoneja]

Kiffin is a good fit for USC but I'm surprised he is dipping on Tennessee after just one season. I'm assuming that USC was his dream job because if things go bad at USC and he gets shit canned I don't see anyone lining up to hire him after this ditch move.

I bet if he knew that the USC job was going to open up this year he wouldn't have gone to Tennessee, probably would have just went back to being the OC at USC again, like he was prior to the Raiders job.

Another thing that's kinda getting swept under the rug is the fact that Norm Chow is coming back to coach the offense at SC too. Things were pretty good last time he was there...


Chow is staying at UCLA (at least) for this season.

[Emperor Smeat]

Tennessee is going to luck out badly since their potential recruiting class was rated in the Top 10/15 for next year. Going to lose 5-6 players in top 25 recruits but their only good news is keeping the 6th ranked QB recruit for next year.

The fact Kiffin was able to recruit such a decent class for next year is a bit amazing considering the more powerful schools in the SEC.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

National Signing Day today

check out Stanford pulling in a top 15 class. Harbaugh has done wonders for that program.

[RP]

Purdue had a heck of a class. about nine, 3 star recruits if i remember correctly from Big 10 Network. Things are looking up.