How I would bring in the ROH guys (danielson/ Mcguiness)

[Indifferent Clox]

I'd have either a commentatoror two guys backstage talk about "The Best Wrestler in World" not being in WWE. How "you may be great, but he's no American Dragon." But kind of have it be ignored and not talked about by the other commentator or wrestler.

He'd debut as "The guy everyone is talking about" and Have hi just beat midcard guys and even John Cena, who takes him lightly.


Nigel Eventually comes in and beats him because he "knows how". Have some other dominant force like Shelton Benjamin, who hasn't lost in a while, will be able to beat a lot of other guys, but Not Danielson. Eventually, he starts asking Nigel how he beat him, which would still be Danielson's only loss. Nigel says he';ll tell him if he can beat him in a best of 7 series. Shelton wins in the 7th match and he asks for the secret which is basically "study his old tapes and fight hi as often as I have." Shelton and Danielson have a great feud with Danielson still not losing and gaining the IC or US title or ECW title or whatever. and Eventually with the title on the line Benjamin beats Danielson. Then the next PPV Nigel v. Shelton v. Danielson and Danielson wins his title back.


I dunno then I'd eventually have CM Punk take them from ECW or whatever and have Jamie Noble and Jimmy Yang as tag champs, Danielson as US champ, NIgel as IC champ on raw, CM Punk as champ on smackdown and basically they all go around as the Stable of Honor, who want to bring Honor to wwe.


what would you do?

[Dave Youell]

Man, there's is next to no chance of that happening.

[Indifferent Clox]

I know.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I love to see Danielson just show up on ECW as an unannounced guy (sort of like born), and take someone like Regal, Kozlov, or Shelton to a time limit draw. Then they could do the whole "Who the fuck is this guy?" thing. Maybe reveal he's trained by HBK, mentored by Regal, etc.

[Traiklin1982]

I would love to see the wwe wait until they are in ring of honor country and then have them both sit ringside to do some kind of invasion angle. Or have them both run out during ecw and attack kozlov and jackson. Then they could both join Regal to join a new and better group.

[Bad Company]

There's no way WWE would let a "commentator" say that. Too much kayfabe.

[Vastardikai]

I say that they debut Danielson and Nigel on ECW as faces. Have them, for the most part, not be near each other in terms of storylines. Then, Regal's boys start doing some damage to Christian one night, and in come Danielson and Nigel to save the day. It leads to a 6 man Main Event: Christian, Nigel, and Danielson vs. Regal, Ezekiel (sp?), and Kozlov.

Have Nigel go over Kozlov. Have Regal look shocked, then seem to smirk as he turns his back. Next week, tag match between Nigel and Danielson against Ezekiel and Kozlov, with Regal at ringside. This time, Danielson defeats Ezekiel. Again, Regal feigns shock but smirks when his back is turned.

Then Regal vs. Christian for the ECW Title (the champion really doesn't matter.) The beasts come in, but are ran off by Danielson and Nigel. In the chaos, the referee goes down. Christian seems to have Regal where he wants him... Jawbreaker Lariat by Nigel on Christian? Danielson lifts up Christian's arms and stomps him out for good measure. They leave the ring and Regal wakes up the referee and pins Christian to win (or retain) the title. This, naturally, brings back a confused Kozlov and Ezekiel. Regal then announces Nigel and Danielson as his Sleeper Cell. Then the Hosses get demolished with Lariats, vicious holds, and a power of the punch or two for good measure.

[Traiklin1982]

Thats exactly what I said but with more details lol I do agree that would be cool though.

[Gertner]

And then Smarky the Smarkdog would run in a jizz all over both wrestlers.


Not a snowballs chance in hell that'd happen, and that would go over as well as a fart in church with the WWE's fans.

This isn't ROH. Nobody will give two shits about these guys.

[Dave Youell]

This is what will happen.

They will come out, and wrestle matches, and get over based on what they do in the ring, they won't get much (if any) mic time and will both probably be in ECW.

[CSL]

BUT THEY MUST TEAM WITH REGAL!!

[Loose Cannon]

Vince will come out on Smackdown to congratulate Punk for being such a great Champ so far. And Punk says thanks, but hold on a sec Vince. Punk is like We've watched you sit back and make a mockery out of wrestling for the past 10 years and now that I am the Champion of this company, you think everything is cool? Vince is like don't talk to me like that bitch. I am your boss. And Punk is like I don't really care. Nigel and Danielson hit the ring and crucify Vince. Punk then gets a sledge hammer and breaks the WWE Title in half. Just then Rob Feinstein comes down and hands Punk the ROH Belt and is jumping around the ring like a fag.

The crowd all of a sudden turns in PRO ROH fans starts chanting ROH ROH ROH. Then the lights go out and the remaining 100 WWE fans start cheering thinking it's Taker, but when the lights come back on, it's FUCKING JIMMMY JACOBS in the ring. At this moment, all the kids rip of thier Cena shirts and start doing the Jimmy Jacobs pose. Jacobs then cuts Vince with a knife and smears his blodd on his body in an ROH symbol. The crowd goes apeshit for this and the 10 remianing WWE fans have all been thrown out of the building by cops, who are all ROH fans. HHH tries to come down and get Vince out of there, but is just beaten down by the far more superior ROH wrestlers.

Matt Hardy then comes down, but is stopped by the cops and is like "RING OF HONOR RULES....COME SEE ME IN ROH" and everyone is like :rofl: as Smackdown goes off the air.


The End

[Loose Cannon]

definately happening

[Indifferent Clox]

The first part of that would be amazing.

[Wolfpack423]

I would like to see Danielson debut on Smackdown and Nigel debut on ECW. I think a good way to lead up to their debuts is to air them when CM Punk is doing a promo in the ring, saying how he is better than everyone else (yeah it's talking about him being straight edge, but it can be interpreted in other ways). Punk will see the promo and have a wide eyed look on his face and eventually it will lead to Danielson coming down the ramp, they have a face off and it leads into a feud, but I doubt it will happen, because Punk is the World Champ and I don't think they would toss him right into the title picture. The most realistic idea is having him debut like Evan Bourne did, but scoring a clean victory in a match over Shelton Benjamin or the current ECW champion (who I feel will be William Regal by then), with Striker saying Who Is Bryan Danielson? They won't bring up ROH or any of the indy work, because WWE doesn't acknowledge it. They will build him up like Chris Benoit. Not much has to be done, because he is a technical marvel and he can turn up the aggression in the ring. It won't take long for him to get over. Nigel McGuiness can debut in a tag team with Sheamus it would work so well. Of course they would want to establish he can be a good singles star first, but eventually pair them up and have them win the unified tag titles and join Regal (if his stable is still around).

[Mr. Nerfect]

Nigel McGuinness could perhaps be best brought in as an anti-thesis to William Regal. While Regal basks himself with followers, and wears elaborate robes to the ring -- Nigel just wears a t-shirt down, and beats the tar out of his opponents -- no flash, no flare.

He can initial have random matches with heels, and go over. He eventually runs into Sheamus, and after a battle between the two, Nigel eventually crosses paths with Regal, as ECW is a very small pond. Regal looks down on Nigel, while Nigel wants to knock Regal down a few pegs. It's a simple story, that draws on the differences between them well. It'd sort of be a similar formula to Vince/Stone Cold, with Nigel living out the average man's dreams, and punching the rich guy in the face.

Eventually, Nigel would win the ECW Title from Regal, as his great triumph, but then the drama comes from Regal trying to destroy McGuinness and win it back.

To turn him heel, you just have Nigel fall into the same traps that Regal once did -- and he starts wearing robes, and acting like a bit of a snob. He can eventually become a bit obsessed with keeping the ECW Title, and even cheating to retain it when neccessary. McGuinness could be the first guy to do a turn while holding a top championship in a long time.

Perhaps he can essentially side at Regal at some point, which could solidify a heel turn. This leads to feuds with guys like Tommy Dreamer, Christian, Shelton Benjamin, Yoshi Tatsu and whoever the faces on ECW are at this time.

By then it is time for McGuinness to be drafted to either RAW or SmackDown!, where he can then win the US or IC Title, and go from there.

[Gertner]

God damn, why won't people understand that wrestlers without gimmicks don't get over in the WWE. All this "Nigel should just have no flare, no nonsense" is fucking retarded. That'll get you over in front of 500 smarks at the local YMCA, but in the WWE it'll get ya released.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

God damn, why won't people understand that wrestlers without gimmicks don't get over in the WWE. All this "Nigel should just have no flare, no nonsense" is fucking retarded. That'll get you over in front of 500 smarks at the local YMCA, but in the WWE it'll get ya released.

Bingo.

Now if Nigel comes in and plays a sort of cocky/smart ass brit, like something out of a Guy Ritchie movie, it'll work... Especially since he looks like Jason Statham a bit with his head shaved.

[Hanso Amore]

Jesus you guys are fucking idiots.

I am quite sure the WWE isnt going to thrust two guy who only about 15 percent of their fanbase know into the spotlight. the WWE is marketing to kids, who dont know who the fuck these guys are.

The yare going to fail miserably because like Gerts said, no gimmick. Kiddies need gimmicks to relate to.

[Juan]

I don't think it's a guarantee that they're gonna fail miserably.

[Hanso Amore]

More likely than succeeding.

[Droford]

My guess is they'll come in as a group called HOR but I dont know what it would stand for.

[Indifferent Clox]

Hope for Rest holds.

[Mr. Nerfect]

God damn, why won't people understand that wrestlers without gimmicks don't get over in the WWE. All this "Nigel should just have no flare, no nonsense" is fucking retarded. That'll get you over in front of 500 smarks at the local YMCA, but in the WWE it'll get ya released.

Being "no nonsense" is a gimmick in itself.

[St. Jimmy]

Future Endeavors.

[St. Jimmy]

After being pinned by both the Brooklyn Brawler, and Hacksaw.

[Outsider]

I don't understand why WWE wouldn't mention their past with ROH, even if not by name. It is not going to harm the WWE in any way shape or form, ROH is years off being any sort of competition.

Just mentioning that they are former champions or whatever in 'a top indie organisation' and name dropping a few other current WWE stars who have been there, something along the lines of "You have to remember, that is the same company that CM Punk was wrestling for before he came to the WWE, and look what he has achieved" will just put them over a bit, give them a bit of history and credibility. These aren't two guys off the street, but two experienced and capable wrestlers.

There is no downside to it, I just don't get it!

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't understand why WWE wouldn't mention their past with ROH, even if not by name. It is not going to harm the WWE in any way shape or form, ROH is years off being any sort of competition.

Just mentioning that they are former champions or whatever in 'a top indie organisation' and name dropping a few other current WWE stars who have been there, something along the lines of "You have to remember, that is the same company that CM Punk was wrestling for before he came to the WWE, and look what he has achieved" will just put them over a bit, give them a bit of history and credibility. These aren't two guys off the street, but two experienced and capable wrestlers.

There is no downside to it, I just don't get it!

Well, with their signing actually being out of slight worry that ROH are going to be on the same night as RAW (arguably not hurting the WWE's ratings initially, but on a "wrestling night" other wrestling shows may get a boost, and that can create a bit more of a fanbase for ROH), it seems almost counter-point to bring up ROH.

I get what you are saying, but the WWE do sort of hint at stuff like that. Evan Bourne wasn't just a "guy off the street." I remember during his early days they put him over as a guy who had toured the world and had success before coming to the WWE. And Matt Striker has done the same thing with Yoshi Tatsu ("He left fame in Japan to come to the WWE"). I hope they don't bring Bryan Danielson and Nigel McGuinness in as "rookies" who haven't wrestled a match before -- but the most I would hope for is that Danielson eventually gets revealed as a student of Shawn Michaels and/or William Regal, and that Nigel McGuinness is put over as a guy who has wrestled all over and was one of the hottest prospects outside of the WWE.

The WWE don't even mention FCW on the air. Granted, I'm not sure if it would really help guys -- and it might actually hurt FCW -- but if Josh Mathews and Matt Striker don't mention Tyler Reks being the FCW Heavyweight Champion (or the best of the guys the WWE has training for the big time), then what good does promoting ROH's World Title have?

[Gertner]

Being "no nonsense" is a gimmick in itself.

And it gets over as well as a fart in church.

[Mr. Nerfect]

And it gets over as well as a fart in church.

My farts get pretty over in church, actually. It's a good church.