Randy Orton Vs John Cena match for 3rd PPV in a row!

[RP]

Creativity has just been set back 20 years.




YAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

[Mr. Nerfect]

I love how arbitrary their Hell in a Cell match is. If I actually watched and cared about RAW, I would be pissed.

[Droford]

I bet we get Team Orton vs Team Cena at Survivor Series

Orton/Legacy/Big Show/Jericho vs Cena/DX/Henry/MVP

Combine all the repetitive fueds into one monster 5 on 5 Classic Survivor Series Match!

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think they should have put John Cena and DX together to face Legacy, and just streamline their HIAC matches.

[Juan]

I bet we get Team Orton vs Team Cena at Survivor Series

Orton/Legacy/Big Show/Jericho vs Cena/DX/Henry/MVP

Combine all the repetitive fueds into one monster 5 on 5 Classic Survivor Series Match!

I can actually see that happening.

[GD]

2007: John Cena versus Randy Orton
A lot of Random Tag matches
Summerslam
Unforgiven
No Mercy (at least it was scheduled)

not to mention the number of matches they had in 2008.

[Londoner]

i wouldn't have a problem with the feud if the wrestlers weren't so dull and irritating. I bet they even do a TLC match for these two after SS. Infact, i'm starting to think these ppvs were changed just so they could keep the cena/orton feud 'fresh'(for lack of a better word).

[GD]

The Orton-Jeff Hardy rivalry was the shit!

[Afterlife]

Here's what I want: Orton/Henry (title) and Cena/Swagger.

MIX THIS SHIT UP, WWE!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>DX and Legacy for the 3rd PPV in a row as well. Pisses me off cause DX are prolly gonna get their win back and that'll be it.</font>

[Mr. Nerfect]

I dunno. Triple H and Shawn Michaels are obviously pretty high on Legacy, having put them over at Breaking Point. Plus, the WWE is hurting for new talent. I think that we could see some shenanigans which allow Legacy to take another win at Hell in a Cell (with Cena retaining the WWE Title in the other RAW main event, to "keep the fans happy").

At least, I hope that is what happens. I'm also sensing that this feud might spark the tension between Triple H and Shawn Michaels that could lead to a potential match between the two at WrestleMania 26.

I do wish the WWE would just put the WWE Title on Shawn Michaels, though. It would be fresh, exciting, and it's not like HBK needs a credibility boost or anything to hold the WWE Title. I am really craving a Shawn Michaels vs. MVP match over the title.

[kareru]

how boring was that i quit match?, both wrestlers were getting booed, cena more than orton, so nobody really cared about the match, way to go raw creative.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think Cena vs. Orton will be the first Hell in a Cell that doesn't feature either Triple H or The Undertaker.

[The Jayman]

i think the only Hell in a Cell I know of that doesn't feature Undertaker or Triple H was on Raw in 1998 with Mankind vs. Kane. other than that was the cell being lowered halfway through the Austin/Kane match at KOTR 98

[Londoner]

i think the only Hell in a Cell I know of that doesn't feature Undertaker or Triple H was on Raw in 1998 with Mankind vs. Kane. other than that was the cell being lowered halfway through the Austin/Kane match at KOTR 98

I'm sure there must be more?

[kareru]

no those are the only ones

[Dorkchop]

I really like Orton, but I'm so bored of him facing HHH, Cena, or Batista. He needs new opponents to feud with.

[Anybody Thrilla]

how boring was that i quit match?, both wrestlers were getting booed, cena more than orton, so nobody really cared about the match, way to go raw creative.

I dunno, it felt like Cena was getting a good reaction.

[kareru]

I dunno, it felt like Cena was getting a good reaction.

yeah, good if he was a heel, lol

[Anybody Thrilla]

He got a good reaction coming out. I know this.

[kareru]

He got a good reaction coming out. I know this.

not a reaction fitting the top babyface on the top show

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm sure there must be more?

If you count Al Snow vs. Big Boss Man in the Kennell from Hell, then you can expand it to either The Undertaker, Mick Foley/Kane, Triple H or Boss Man/Al Snow. Take your picks.

Some other HIAC trivia:

* Taking the WWE's stigma that being "defeated" is taking a pinfall or submission loss -- Stone Cold Steve Austin and Kane are both undefeated in Hell in a Cell matches.

* One of the biggest stars of all-time in Stone Cold Steve Austin was only in two Hell in a Cell matches, and none of them were one-on-one. The Rock only appeared in one, and that was also a multi-man match.

* Heels seemed to generally win Hell in a Cell matches early on in the match's existence -- but now it seems almost exclusively that faces win.

* Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar and Batista are all undefeated in Hell in a Cell, although Batista is the only one of them who has appeared in more than one. Batista has also both pinned Triple H and The Undertaker in the structure, who are the most frequent Hell in a Cell competitors.

* If The Undertaker does face CM Punk in Hell in a Cell at the PPV, then it will be his tenth HIAC. This will be Triple H's seventh. It will also be Shawn Michaels' fourth.

* Of the four teams that have participated in Hell in a Cell as a team -- three out of the four have either been previous opponents or gone on to be opponents in HIAC.

* A submission has never ended a Hell in a Cell match.

[kareru]

If you count Al Snow vs. Big Boss Man in the Kennell from Hell, then you can expand it to either The Undertaker, Mick Foley/Kane, Triple H or Boss Man/Al Snow. Take your picks.

Some other HIAC trivia:

* Taking the WWE's stigma that being "defeated" is taking a pinfall or submission loss -- Stone Cold Steve Austin and Kane are both undefeated in Hell in a Cell matches.

* One of the biggest stars of all-time in Stone Cold Steve Austin was only in two Hell in a Cell matches, and none of them were one-on-one. The Rock only appeared in one, and that was also a multi-man match.

* Heels seemed to generally win Hell in a Cell matches early on in the match's existence -- but now it seems almost exclusively that faces win.

* Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar and Batista are all undefeated in Hell in a Cell, although Batista is the only one of them who has appeared in more than one. Batista has also both pinned Triple H and The Undertaker in the structure, who are the most frequent Hell in a Cell competitors.

* If The Undertaker does face CM Punk in Hell in a Cell at the PPV, then it will be his tenth HIAC. This will be Triple H's seventh. It will also be Shawn Michaels' fourth.

* Of the four teams that have participated in Hell in a Cell as a team -- three out of the four have either been previous opponents or gone on to be opponents in HIAC.

* A submission has never ended a Hell in a Cell match.

aww that 6 man hell in a cell at Armageddon was fucking awesome, well apart from that sawdust spot

[RP]

Well this time its serious. Its in a cell.

[kareru]

finally a ppv that can contain the carnage and blood and sheer brutality of the main event matches

[The Jayman]

finally a ppv that can contain the carnage and blood and sheer brutality of the main event matches

-blood thanks to pg wwe

[kareru]

-blood thanks to pg wwe

and -brutality and carnage

as a matter of interest, has the pg wwe ever had a hell in a cell match?

[The Jayman]

Summerslam 2008 Edge vs Taker is the most recent

[Anybody Thrilla]

not a reaction fitting the top babyface on the top show

Who got a better one?

[kareru]

Who got a better one?

The Undertaker
MVP and Mark henry
DX

[Anybody Thrilla]

Disagree.

[Lock Jaw]

Remember years back when people here were all clamoring for a big Cena/Orton feud and acted like it was going to be the biggest match WWE has done in a long time?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Didn't they waste the first one on Raw or something?

[Mogadishu]

I know this is off topic, but I'll mention it....since DX was brought up.

This will never happen, but I'd love it if at some point, Triple H and Shawn Michaels lost the rights to DX......to Rhodes and Dibiase.

Shortly afterwards, Rhodes and Dibiase distance themselves from Orton.

The Miz and John Morrison join Rhodes and Dibiase to form a new Degeneration X.

New DX:
-The Miz
-John Morrison
-Rhodes
-Dibiase

A younger and newer DX that is actually edgy.....like the OLD DX.

Eventually - Triple H and Shawn Michaels call up Hall and Nash.....for a one night....and one night only.....match between the New DX and The Kliq.

Stupid idea? Most likely. It would be interesting for me atleast.

[taker707]

i love that idea . but my opioion means shit around here

[Mr. Nerfect]

My only problem with that is that Cody Rhodes & Ted DiBiase don't really seem to fit the DX image -- and they seem to be crafting their own legacies right now. The Miz, however, is someone that I can see wanting to take the DX name for himself. If The Brian Kendrick were still around, he'd be a good fit for it, too.

Besides The Miz, I'd probably include a freshly moved Zack Ryder. His personality seems like it could be a good fit for a heel DX. Chris Masters and Carlito could also fit the stable pretty nicely. But yeah, The Miz and Zack Ryder would be my choices for a driving force behind them -- with Maryse likely being in, hanging off The Miz.

[Mogadishu]

Great points.

I think your idea with Ryder and Maryse is better.

[el bobbo]

Hey guys,

I remember back in the day (Attitude Era), I would be glued to my television every Monday night for Raw. Born in 1985, I was around 12/13/14 when Austin, The Rock, The Undertaker, and Mankind were involved in some seriously fucked up shit

I remember The Undertaker crucifying Stone Cold, The Undertaker "hanging" The Big Bossman, Val Venis almost getting his cock chopped off, Mick Foley Flying off the fucking cage, and Mark Henry fucking most of the female roster.

Hell, when I watched D-X back then, they were throwing people off the stage in dumpsters, invading WCW, and visiting strip clubs. What are they doing now? Going to the evangelical brainwashing center with Sting and performing 'relations' with the boss' daughter...

Why does the WWE feel the need to shelter this generation of fans from angles which are truly entertaining? I looked up to Stone Cold Steve Austin because he didn't give a god damn about what anybody thought of him (he even held a fucking gun to Vince McMahon's head). John Cena promotes "hustle, loyalty and respect." What the hell is that? When i watched wrestling in middle school it was an attempt to get away from all of the crap they taught me, not to reinforce it.

These kids watching the product do not need something that reinforces what they are taught in school. Give them something that makes them stand out as the kid who "saw a guy get his head grinded against a steel cage like a piece of cheese, and then came out the next night to smack everyone with a fucking steel chair." This safety shit is fucking boring the hell out of me...

[Verbose Minch]

Did you ever think that the reason you don't enjoy it as much anymore is because you grew up? You became more cynical, you picked it apart more?

[el bobbo]

I really have thought about that, but it really isn't the same as it was back then.

The "characters" had much more depth, involved storylines, and grudges to settle. I do not understand why they can't come up with some more angles like they used to have. They aren't doing anything else with their air time...

Austin drank beer and fucked shit up every week on Raw. He violently attacked a babyface like Bret Hart in the beginning of his push because the "WW-whatever" really wanted to put him over. What the fuck are they doing for Cena that makes him differential from every other guy in the company? he takes more steroids to get that amazing physique?

[Xero]

What does this have to do with PG? WWF was PG until 99.

[DaVe]

Because you can't get away with that 98-PG stuff in 2009.

[Mr. Nerfect]

To be honest, I think a lot of it has to do with the negative attention the deaths of Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit gave the company. They want to be seen as "nice guys" in the eyes of the media, which is a bit bizarre considering the testosterone the business runs on. Whatever.

[kareru]

pg WWE are averaging about a 4.0

WWF averaged at about 6.0 and keep in mind that this was during the monday night war when WCW were drawing about 4.5

so by that logic

wcw (the shitty years) > wwe (the pg/cena years)

[kareru]

i also found out

The highest rating to date that "Raw" has ever had was on September 27, 1999, in an episode that featured a 25-minute-long "This Is Your Life" segment with Mankind and The Rock. The segment received an 8.4 rating.

[Nicky Fives]

all I know is that kids nowadays know a hell of alot more about sex and violence then I ever did as a kid back in the attitude era..... If anyone generation of 8-14 years old can handle the 'edgier' side of pro wrestling, it's this generation

[kareru]

exactly, i dont know a kid in the 8-14 demographic that hasn't played GTA (3d ones)

[Rammsteinmad]

all I know is that kids nowadays know a hell of alot more about sex and violence then I ever did as a kid back in the attitude era..... If anyone generation of 8-14 years old can handle the 'edgier' side of pro wrestling, it's this generation

I agree with this.

[Steveviscious89]

Kids of that age are way more impressionable than we know or probably even remember. If WWE thinks they can clean things up by doing this, then so be it. No need to create any more trash for society. Perhaps the creater of this post should take a long look at himself and decide if that really made his life any better.

[kareru]

Kids of that age are way more impressionable than we know or probably even remember. If WWE thinks they can clean things up by doing this, then so be it. No need to create any more trash for society. Perhaps the creater of this post should take a long look at himself and decide if that really made his life any better.

i really hope you're trolling

[Ermaximus]

Kids of that age are way more impressionable than we know or probably even remember. If WWE thinks they can clean things up by doing this, then so be it. No need to create any more trash for society. Perhaps the creater of this post should take a long look at himself and decide if that really made his life any better.

:shifty:

[Vastardikai]

Steveviscious89 = member of the PTC?

[Londoner]

Kids of that age are way more impressionable than we know or probably even remember. If WWE thinks they can clean things up by doing this, then so be it. No need to create any more trash for society. Perhaps the creater of this post should take a long look at himself and decide if that really made his life any better.

:rofl:

Are you being serious?

[Ermaximus]

Steveviscious89 = member of the PTC?
Who knew the Right to Censor was real?

[kareru]

http://www.shropshiretourism.co.uk/images/mary-whitehouse.jpg

Mary Whitehouse back from the dead

[Gertner]

The fans of the attitude era have essentially "graduated" on to become UFC fans. The hardcore wrestling fans have remained, but the casual fans have departed. The WWE is smart. They are targeting kids. Kinda like Hitler youth, get them while their young and then adapt to these new wrestling fans likes and dislikes. The WWE doing what they did in the Attitude era makes no sense now, because people can go watch the real thing (MMA).

[kareru]

mma is boring, its just mostly 2 guys with cauliflower ears hugging each other for 15 mins

[Triple Naitch]

Can we chill out with all the Cena hate? cenassoldier is in the corner crying right now.

[Triple Naitch]

It really is the most played out thing on the boards.

[Gertner]

mma is boring, its just mostly 2 guys with cauliflower ears hugging each other for 15 mins

That's cute. Cena making "JBL is poopy" jokes must make your gut burst.

[Vastardikai]

mma is boring, its just mostly 2 guys with cauliflower ears hugging each other for 15 mins

20 years ago, people said the SAME THING about Pro Wrestling

[Haze]

Hey guys,

I remember back in the day (Attitude Era), I would be glued to my television every Monday night for Raw. Born in 1985, I was around 12/13/14 when Austin, The Rock, The Undertaker, and Mankind were involved in some seriously fucked up shit

I remember The Undertaker crucifying Stone Cold, The Undertaker "hanging" The Big Bossman, Val Venis almost getting his cock chopped off, Mick Foley Flying off the fucking cage, and Mark Henry fucking most of the female roster.

Hell, when I watched D-X back then, they were throwing people off the stage in dumpsters, invading WCW, and visiting strip clubs. What are they doing now? Going to the evangelical brainwashing center with Sting and performing 'relations' with the boss' daughter...

Why does the WWE feel the need to shelter this generation of fans from angles which are truly entertaining? I looked up to Stone Cold Steve Austin because he didn't give a god damn about what anybody thought of him (he even held a fucking gun to Vince McMahon's head). John Cena promotes "hustle, loyalty and respect." What the hell is that? When i watched wrestling in middle school it was an attempt to get away from all of the crap they taught me, not to reinforce it.

These kids watching the product do not need something that reinforces what they are taught in school. Give them something that makes them stand out as the kid who "saw a guy get his head grinded against a steel cage like a piece of cheese, and then came out the next night to smack everyone with a fucking steel chair." This safety shit is fucking boring the hell out of me...

The problem is that the Attitude Era doesn't fit todays demographic.

During the Attitude Era, the WWF targeted a much older crowd because thhat was the crowd buying into the product.

But those people who were targeted in the late 90's got older and had kids, and have become the major demographic of today's WWE.

[Italian $tallion]

mma is boring, its just mostly 2 guys with cauliflower ears hugging each other for 15 mins

Absolutely agreed.

[Gertner]

Wrong you wop.

[Vastardikai]

Absolutely agreed.

Holy shit! the Italian Stallion!

Are you still the world Spaghetti Eating Champion?

Nice to see a WCW jobber posting, even if it's complete garbage!

[screech]

mma is boring, its just mostly 2 guys with cauliflower ears hugging each other for 15 mins

This from someone who considers the sloppiest backyard wrestling has to offer "great" matches.

[Gertner]

Holy shit! the Italian Stallion!

Are you still the world Spaghetti Eating Champion?

Nice to see a WCW jobber posting, even if it's complete garbage!

Salvatore Bellomo!

[Gertner]

This from someone who considers the sloppiest backyard wrestling has to offer "great" matches.

If it doesn't involve trampoline's it's not wrestling.

[screech]

Clearly

[DAMN iNATOR]

Can we chill out with all the Cena hate? cenassoldier is in the corner crying right now.

I will not.:|

[el bobbo]

Kids of that age are way more impressionable than we know or probably even remember. If WWE thinks they can clean things up by doing this, then so be it. No need to create any more trash for society. Perhaps the creater of this post should take a long look at himself and decide if that really made his life any better.

Were you a member of Ashcroft's Department of Justice under the Bush Administration? JK

Yeah, when I look back on things it probably did really fuck my life up. Made me believe that if I got into a fight, a single punch to the head would not do that much damage... then I woke up in a hospital a couple of times.

[Xero]

From PWInsider:

John Cena vs. Randy Orton at the 10/25 Bragging Rights PPV in Pittsburgh, PA will be an Iron Man Match.

[Ermaximus]

I'm not suprsied.

[Fox]

Apparently it's called "Bragging Rights" because we all get them after sitting through sixty minutes of the blandest main event wrestling of all time.

[thedamndest]

Place your bets now on how many rest holds Randy will use in the course of 60 minutes.

[Emperor Smeat]

It wouldn't be as bad if WWE was TV-PG if they still had decent wrestling week in and week out. During the 1980s and early 1990s, WWF had more wrestlers who could entertain the crowd or had more interesting characters to watch than today's WWE.

Seems like the whole pushing the focus more on "sports entertainment" at the cost of good wrestling is hurting the product overall. Right now they have RAW that is too cluttered up in the main event and full of bad booking and Smackdown that has within the last few months gotten much better as a show compared to before.

[Fabien Barthez]

They don't even have very good matches. Are they just going through every gimmick match to see if they perform well in at least one? Because 60 minutes of straight wrestling doesn't sound like it is going to be this one either.

[Fox]

Is it too late to rename the PPV "WWE Iron Man?"

[Xero]

Why isn't called the Steel Man Match?

Because Cena is Superman, and he's the Man of Steel and all...

[Fox]

Superman vs. the Giant Snake for the WWE Championship

[Ermaximus]

Does this mean at Survivor Series we'll see Orton vs. Cena in a Tuxedo match?

[TheZman]

Cena vs Orton in a iron man match is going to be more painful than a PPV of nothing by diva matches.

[Fabien Barthez]

Irrespective of ratings, I would be interested to see how the change in classification has affected income. It is hard to quantify with the recession and such.

I think everyone with a romantic view of the Attitude era watched wrestling for a long time as a kid, and then it changed when they got into their teens. It fit with the growing up, and the great thing about it was how it was different to what you had watched before.

Obviously, since it has reverted somewhat, it is going to upset the loyals, but you really aren't the audience who spend money on merchandise, and force your parents to buy you, and them tickets to shows. Thats just how it is. I work for the people who pay me the most money, so you can't expect different of anybody else.

[ClockShot]

So I guess people can now recover from Randy Orton's punt much much faster now.

What a shame, I was hoping for Cena to be out for awhile.

[CSL]

I'd be suprised if it was 60 minutes

[TheZman]

I'd be suprised if it was 60 minutes

Anything over 23 seconds is too fucking long at this point.

























I take that back, 23 seconds is still too long.

[Fabien Barthez]

Seriously though, who in their right mind is going to buy this PPV? It is one of the minor ones, and even if you love Cena/Orton matches, why would you buy it less than a month after they fought in a HIAC match?

[redoneja]

This only adds to the fact that WWE is ruining the "awe" of the Hell in a Cell match. Hell in a Cell is supposed to be the coup de grace for feuds, not just a speed bump to the finish.

I honestly don't see how an Iron Man match is more brutal or feud ending than a Cell match or even an I Quit match for that matter.

[Xero]

I just had a terrifying thought. Maybe this is building to a match designed for Cena. I'm thinking of a "Chain Gang Match", like a strap match/dog collar match but they're chained at the ankle.

[Fox]

They should have a Flaming Tables match. That I would pay to see.

[Xero]

No, an Inferno match. Only because neither of them really has any place but skin to light ablaze.

Am I sick for thinking that?

[Fabien Barthez]

A little. It's not strictly their fault they keep getting booked over and over again. Who knows. Someone should experience quite acute pain for this decision, for sure.

[Fox]

No, an Inferno match. Only because neither of them really has any place but skin to light ablaze.

Am I sick for thinking that?

WWE presents FLAMERS live on PPV

[Emperor Smeat]

So basically no chance of Orton on Raw today using what Cena said about "no more title rematches if Orton lost in the Cell" but using it against Cena.

On paper, this might become the worst Iron Man match in WWF/WWE history because of how bad both of these guys are as wrestlers (and in a way of how an Iron Man Match is set up to begin with).

[Fabien Barthez]

What would really piss me off after this, is if one of these guys won the Rumble....

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol neither of them is a bad wrestler. Just everyone's seen this match 24124 times.

[Executioner]

Well.....FUCK!

[Innovator]

This is the feud that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friend

[Xero]

Someone started booking it not knowing what it was
And they'll continue feuding now only just because

[Nicky Fives]

time for an HBK/Bret Iron Man classic?

as Vince's lyrics say; NO CHANCE IN HELL!

[redoneja]

Feuds that continue intermittently over the course of years aren't bad (Sting/Flair, HHH/Rock, etc) per se, it's just the fact that this feud seems to have been going on nonstop for about two years now.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>If it is 60 minutes that will eat up 1/3 of the show despite the fact that it's supposed to been a Raw/SD themed PPV</font>

[Triple Naitch]

Ok hypothetical question. Would you rather watch a 60 minute iron man match with Cena and Orton if it meant they wouldn't wrestle each other for at least a year or have to put up with the feud for the rest of the year?

[Xero]

Yes I would.

Too bad that's not how it'll happen.

[Fabien Barthez]

I can wait for the match to start, set an alarm for an hour later, and maybe catch the finish or read the result. The other way, their 'classic rivalry' will infiltrate TV at the same disparaging rate as the last god knows how long.

[Xero]

I bet it goes into overtime.

[redoneja]

They could have it end in a draw. That way Orton doesn't lose the title, Cena doesn't have to leave Raw and the continue to feud until Wrestlemania where they decide to just attempt to have a regular singles match to finally end the feud.

[Xero]

And they'll have a rematch at Backlash.

[Emperor Smeat]

Ok hypothetical question. Would you rather watch a 60 minute iron man match with Cena and Orton if it meant they wouldn't wrestle each other for at least a year or have to put up with the feud for the rest of the year?

Watching the match sounds better but it doesn't mean after 2-3 months the feud restarts if Orton wins the rumble or even worse now Triple H replaces Cena in the main event. Probably has worse potential for Smackdown if Cena went there and the writters kept the same mindset with him like they do on RAW.

[Johnny McNasty]

I say bring on the Cena Vs Orton matches. These two work very well together, and almost always have a good match. Have to say I've enjoyed their rivalry thus far.

[Xero]

I don't like you Johnny.

[Johnny McNasty]

So...

[Xero]

Just thought you should know.

[Johnny McNasty]

K.

[Savio]

lol neither of them is a bad wrestler. Just everyone's seen this match 24124 times.neither of them is great either

[Kami Raki]

I just had a terrifying thought. Maybe this is building to a match designed for Cena. I'm thinking of a "Chain Gang Match", like a strap match/dog collar match but they're chained at the ankle.I'm thinking more of prison rape.
I say bring on the Cena Vs Orton matches. These two work very well together, and almost always have a good match. Have to say I've enjoyed their rivalry thus far.
So you enjoy a mockery of good match story telling?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

What's also terrible is that the other announced match is a giant Raw vs. Smackdown tag team match. Which most likely means instead of getting Miz vs. Morrison one on one, we'll get them in a 14 man tag match.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I wonder if WWE Creative really thinks this is just an epic feud that the fans can't get enough of.

[Xero]

"I'll show them for booing Batista vs Show at Hammerstein...."

[screech]

"I'll show them for booing Batista vs Show at Hammerstein...."

Like they remember that.

[Xero]

I bet Batista's still butthurt over it.

[Johnny McNasty]

I'm thinking more of prison rape.

So you enjoy a mockery of good match story telling?

That doesn't make sense, as Cena and Orton almost always have great encounters.

Also I'm loving the idea of an Old School Survivor Series match. I wish they would make Survivor Series like it use to be, and only have the team warfare style matches.

[Xero]

Yeah, why the fuck is there going to be a multi-man tag the PPV before Survivor Series?

WWE is not planning this shit out.

[DAMN iNATOR]

They could have just opted for a 30-minute Iron Man match instead...that's at least close to the average PPV main event in WWE these days, give or take several minutes.

Also, wouldn't mind Cena losing and having to "leave RAW forever" in the least. He could go back to where he started out, over on SmackDown!, and if we somehow got extremely lucky, maybe they'd turn him heel(?) Just a thought.

[screech]

How about a ten minute Iron Man match?

[DAMN iNATOR]

Yeah, why the fuck is there going to be a multi-man tag the PPV before Survivor Series?

WWE is not planning this shit out.

It's probably something to do with how all the SvR games wouldn't come out until around Survivor Series time, but since this year is going to be different with SvR '10 dropping on Oct. 20th, 5 days before Bragging Rights, it seems they're using the concept of a "SmackDown! vs. RAW 'Bragging Rights' main event" to help drive sales of SvR '10.

Dunno for sure, but that's where I'd place my money.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

How about a ten minute Iron Man match?
How about Cena and Orton not wrestle each other anymore

[DAMN iNATOR]

How about a ten minute Iron Man match?

Make it 10 seconds and we'll talk.:shifty:

[screech]

How about Cena and Orton not wrestle each other anymore

Now we're getting somewhere

[Xero]

It's probably something to do with how all the SvR games wouldn't come out until around Survivor Series time, but since this year is going to be different with SvR '10 dropping on Oct. 20th, 5 days before Bragging Rights, it seems they're using the concept of a "SmackDown! vs. RAW 'Bragging Rights' main event" to help drive sales of SvR '10.

Dunno for sure, but that's where I'd place my money.

Yes, that is why. It still doesn't make it okay.

Unless they made it war games.

In fact, why the fuck ISN'T this War Games!? This is like THE gimmick PPV to bring to back.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Oh, I agree it doesn't make it okay whatsoever. But when you have lazy booking by the RAW creative team this is the kind of shit we get put through, month after torturous month.

[XL]

A PPV that is 33.3% Orton v Cena doesn't make me wanna buy!

[CWK]

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[Skippord]

my father who loves John Cena is even sick of it

and that's pretty impressive

[CWK]

people boo cena during a 15 minute match because he sucks. WTF are the WWE creative team thinking putting him in a 60 minute match in this case? Randy Orton is good, but HBK he isn't. HBK carried Cena during their iron man match.

[Sixx]

I'm pretty sure my kids will be watching the re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-rematch with their kids.

[Xero]

My kids will be watching tapes of the Attitude Era and before. I am not subjecting them to this shit.

I'll continue to watch, though.

[Rammsteinmad]

Watching the match sounds better but it doesn't mean after 2-3 months the feud restarts if Orton wins the rumble or even worse now Triple H replaces Cena in the main event. Probably has worse potential for Smackdown if Cena went there and the writters kept the same mindset with him like they do on RAW.

Damn those writters. :mad:

[Rammsteinmad]

This match will make Great Khali VS Mark Henry seem like Chris Benoit VS Kurt Angle.

[Sixx]

My kids will be watching tapes of the Attitude Era and before. I am not subjecting them to this shit.

I'll continue to watch, though.

Actually I don't think my kids will be watching wrestling at all.

This shit just ain't popular here, I'm like a black man at Abercrombie's.

[Ermaximus]

How about Cena and Orton not wrestle each other anymore
:y:

[Sixx]

How about Cena and Orton not wrestle each other anymore

That's the best gimmick idea yet.

"Tonight's Main Event: John Cena vs Randy Orton in We Won't Even See Eachother Tonight match."

[RP]

ROFL wrestling

I luv it.

[RP]

Cena vs Orton 4 TIME 4 TIME 4 TIME!!!!!!!!!

If this isnt proof that WWE has thrown in the towel, I dont know what is. They dont even care at this point. Its like " Hey who sells the most T-shirts...Cena and Orton again? Book it. ".

I love how wrestling fans are getting trashed with the same boring match over and over and over ...and over again. They know you guys will pay 50$ to see the same match 4 times in a row. It's fantastic! No wonder UFC is stomping all over WWE in ratings. Not only are there fights real, but they're fresh!

I love this so much. The fact that WWE is trashing there fans and stealing there money cause they know they can and will, makes me want to come to the wrestling forum even more.

[RP]

WWE has effectivley taken the house show formula and applied it to ppv's and charges $50 dollars . Vince McMahon is a genius.

[Kami Raki]

That's the best gimmick idea yet.

"Tonight's Main Event: John Cena vs Randy Orton in We Won't Even See Eachother Tonight match."My god I'd pay 50 dollars for that match alone.

[Ermaximus]

Here's what I want: Orton/Henry (title) and Cena/Swagger.

MIX THIS SHIT UP, WWE!

:y:

[The Mackem]

Don't watch it but one of the problems when I stopped watching is that they'd already used up all their possible matches. Maybe if they were to do this more often some of the matches would feel fresher.

[Fabien Barthez]

What?

[The Mackem]

I hate the limited rosters it feels like there are very few match possibilities. I prefer the long drawn out feuds other multiple PPVs.

[AJHayes]

i love that idea . but my opioion means shit around here

Fuck off Taker707

I'm stepping it up a notch.

[kareru]

AGAIN?????????????????

fuck you vince

correct me if im wrong but wasn't the whole 'gimmick' of this PPV raw vs smackdown


also 60 min iron man match? its as if they are intentionally trying to bore us

[Loose Cannon]

and then after Cena, we will get HHH/Orton for 4 straight matches

[Fabien Barthez]

WWE is often a wasteland for the mind at this time of year. Survivor Series is usually when the ball is started to be picked up ready for the run in to Wrestlemania. It has to play a factor in how Orton and cena are stuck in the same fued, and DX and Jericho are out of singles competition at the moment.

[Ermaximus]

and then after Cena, we will get HHH/Orton for 4 straight matches

I'm sure you are right. :( Though I'd much rather see Henry/Orton at this point.

[Droford]

The rumored SD Main Event is even better..

and if Cena wins, I want Orton to demand 2 out 3.

[parkmania]

SO FUCKING PISSED OFF RIGHT NOW THAT I'M ACTUALLY CONSIDERING TRYING TO GET A REFUND FOR THE 5TH ROW TICKETS I BOUGHT 3 MONTHS AGO!


Now that I got that out of my system, I guess security's gonna have plenty of time running around taking away signs during this match. I know I'll have my share of them, plus I'll make sure the wife has extra markers in her purse for making new ones on the back of signs from other matches.

Oh, and with the main event announced as Raw's winners vs. Smackdown's winners, I guess each other match is gonna be standard Raw/SD episode 8-minute matches.

[redoneja]

Gotta admit I'm slightly less down on the Iron Man match now that it's No Countout and No DQ. It'll allow them more freedom to do things in the span of 60 minutes and hide the fact that they probably aren't capable of putting on a 60 minute straight wrestling match.

Still down on the match overall though

[The Jayman]

If Cena loses at Bragging Rights he will wind up on Smackdown. Who do you think will go to Raw to take his place?

[Xero]

No one, since Cena's winning.

[The Jayman]

damn Xero you got my hopes up :'(:D

[D Mac]

Cena will lose!