Kurt Cobain 1967-1994

[JJ Moore]

And today is the 10th Year since his passing.

Surprised so many ppl overlooked this today in the music forum! No mention what so ever.

NVM, Post your fav songs, moments etc.

Personally favs spread from School to You Know Your Right.

Nirvana has always been one of my alltime fav bands, missing nirvana tremendously, in the sense of what other msuic they were destined to make.

Thankyou Kurt, Thankyou Nirvana.

[Wengerland]

I was going to post about it but didn't get round to it.I read a piece where it said he actually was found on the 8th but was thought to have shot himself on this day.

I only know the basic Nirvana songs like Smells Like Teen Spirit and You Know Your Right but they're both great so i should check out some more.

(Continue to) R.I.P Kurt.

[asphyXy]

<font color=969696>Today's the two year anniversary of Layne Staley's death.

The only death worth remembering on this day.</font>

[JJ Moore]

April 5th 2002 :( It is indeed a sad day for seattle

[Cactus Sid]

<font color=969696>Today's the two year anniversary of Layne Staley's death.

The only death worth remembering on this day.</font>

:y: :(

[Cactus Sid]

Although, I should've said, Kurt is a legend as well

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Yup he died today. Good call

I like most of Nirvana's songs. Id probably say Lithium is my favorite

[Kane Knight]

Today's the two year anniversary of Layne Staley's death.

The only death worth remembering on this day.
I'm sure there are others...

It's just that Cobain ain't one of them.

[The Destroyer]

Both of them were over-rated in my opinion, but hey, still a shame, even considering the dubious circumstances that led to both their deaths and oddly did little to taint their memory.

[asphyXy]

<font color=969696>Jerry Cantrell was Alice in Chains. Layne Staley was a good vocalist in a great band.</font>

[The Destroyer]

Precisely why I think Staley was over-rated...

[Kane Knight]

Both of them were over-rated in my opinion, but hey, still a shame, even considering the dubious circumstances that led to both their deaths and oddly did little to taint their memory.
Well, I doubt many people wil lsay that Cobain's death was a good thing.

Death isn't exactly a happy event, but it doesn't make me think any higher of his shit work in his life, just because he blew his brains out.

[The Destroyer]

If anything, you'd think being a raging heroin addict who eventually shot himself would detract from his legacy. Instead it transformed him into a "legend".

[Kane Knight]

And you'd think being a fat bloated guy who died in the toilet woulda put Evlis belly up.

[The Destroyer]

You idiot, Elvis didn't die. :roll:

[Shaggy]

They have been playing his songs all day here. My fav song is heart shaped box. i dont really have a favorite moment or anything.

[Kane Knight]

-EDIT-

Screwed up, wrong thread.

[Arashi Kage]

I've never really cared for Cobain & Nirvana.

[samichna]

Sucks for anyone to die, but he's not really a "legend" like everyone makes him out to be. :-\

[Wengerland]

Yeah his death probably made him more a legend than he was,but still great.:-\

[The Mask]

sure he is, okay so he's not as gifted as hendrix or anything, but he wrote a bunch of tunes and melodies that everyone remembers. I don't think he was ever a spokesman for a generation or anything like that but everything he wrote was catchy enough to make sure he should be remembered.

[The Duck]

He was inspirational and whether you like it or not, was a major catalyst in the resurgance of grunge and rock into the mainstream. The guy was undeniably talented (and troubled) and though I'm not the BIGGEST Nirvana fan, I'm certainly a fan. Some of their stuff was great (in my opinion) and though his death has undeniably hightened his status in music folk-lore and history - Cobain was great at what he did.

RIP Kurt.

[Kane Knight]

Undeniably talented?

Shut the fu</>ck up.

[The Mask]

death does that for everyone though. it immortalizes you within a timeframe. A lot of people would probably be forgotten by now if they hadn't died early.

[Mr. JL]

A really bad thing about his death is what happened afterwards...

ie: A bunch of his fans commiting suicide 'for Kurt' and all this stuff shortly after his death.

Nirvana is one of my favorite bands and my favorite song of theirs is "Come As You Are".
R.I.P. Kurt

[el fregadero]

<font color=teal>One of the local radio stations is like making this day a tribute to him/Nirvana.

My favourite song is probably "In Bloom" or "All Apologies".</font>

[The Duck]

Undeniably talented?

Shut the fu</>ck up.

Nice attempt at a discussion there.

'Undenaibly' maybe was a poor choice of word. 'Talented' is an opinion of mine shared by many.

[The Duck]

death does that for everyone though. it immortalizes you within a timeframe. A lot of people would probably be forgotten by now if they hadn't died early.

*agrees totally*

[Kane Knight]

There's not much room for discussion when you use a word like "undeniably." Garbage in, Garbage out.

You want to debate things, leave 'em open for debate.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Eh, Cobain was, is, and shall forever be overrated IMO. Many of his songs make my ears want to bleed. While "In Bloom" and " Man Who Sold the World" are good, and there are a few others, a handful of decent songs and a suicidal lead singer does not make a band legendary, or in Nirvana's case, good.

[JJ Moore]

nice to see ppl still enjoying the msuic, and guys fighting, wanna move it into a diff topic please!

[Kane Knight]

No. :) But thanks for asking.

[da_king]

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i think a lot of people felt they could relate to him and is partly why they became so successfull. i was a huge fan of his (and nirvana's) at the time and allthough his death was a bit of a blow at the time, i don't think it was too unexpected considering the path he was going and the close calls he had. his death does seem less impactfull (at least to me) as the years go on and i've moved on but stll it is sad.

anyways my fave song would be heart shaped box and i really did enjoy in utero allthough nevermind seems to be the one that everyone seems to point to.

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[The Outlaw]

'Undenaibly' maybe was a poor choice of word. 'Talented' is an opinion of mine shared by many.

:y:

Pretty sad thing altogether IMO, but obviously there will be people who have their own opinions and bash the guy and what he did but whatever.

[DS]

Courtney killed him. Otherwise, I like most of their songs but Lithium would probably be one of my favorites.

[Penner]

RIP

i like most of their songs

[The Outlaw]

Courtney killed him.

That's a whole different discussion ;)

[road doggy dogg]

Yeah Nirvana was a good band, hella catchy songs. Sucks that he shot himself, but it doesn't make me think he's better/worse than he was when he was alive.

[Evil Vito]

Courtney killed him.

<font color=goldenrod>My thoughts exactly.

-His fingerprints weren't found on the gun, the paper he wrote his suicide note on, or the pen he wrote it with.
-The note wasn't even in his handwriting.
-He was apparently LOADED with so much cocaine that he wouldn't have been able to lift the gun.
-On top of all of that, Courtney was pissed at him and wanted a divorce and wouldn't have gotten a good amount of Cobain's money.

Sad day for music, 10 years without one of the greatest bands ever (in my opinion, of course).

RIP Kurt Cobain: 1967-1994</font> :(

[Kane Knight]

Most of those "facts" about Cobain's death are right up there with the "ice bullet" theory.

[The Outlaw]

I said thats a whole different discussion :mad:

Oh and Big vito it was heroin

1.) TRIPLE MAXIMUM LETHAL DOSE EVEN FOR SEVERE ADDICTS: At least three days after his death, Kurt Cobain's blood contained 1.52 milligrams of morphine per litre (mg/L) plus traces of a "diazepam-like" substance. This level is widely known to represent three times the lethal dose of heroin, but it is not commonly understood that this level is three times the lethal dose even for severe heroin addicts. Generally, a blood morphine level of 0.5mg/L is caused by 75 mg - 80 mg of heroin, the established maximum lethal dose, even for severe addicts. A blood level of 1.52 mg/L generally indicates an original dose of approximately 225 mg - 240 mg of heroin.

There you go

[Kane Knight]

And they used to say that .5 was a universally fatal dose of alcohol.

Yeah, there have been a couple people with a .8 BAC.

:|

[Kane Knight]

Yeah, these were DUIs, BTW, so they weren't even knocked out.

[The Mask]

<font color=goldenrod>My thoughts exactly.

-His fingerprints weren't found on the gun, the paper he wrote his suicide note on, or the pen he wrote it with.
-The note wasn't even in his handwriting.
-He was apparently LOADED with so much cocaine that he wouldn't have been able to lift the gun.
-On top of all of that, Courtney was pissed at him and wanted a divorce and wouldn't have gotten a good amount of Cobain's money.

Sad day for music, 10 years without one of the greatest bands ever (in my opinion, of course).

RIP Kurt Cobain: 1967-1994</font> :(

1. his fingerprints weren't found on the TRIGGER, which doesn't seem too hard, cause although i'm no expert, I'd imagine pushing down on a trigger while you're sat with your back to a wall would ensure your thumb made a sweeping motion over it, and you'd use the middle bone part, rather than the tip.

2. the note was in his handwriting until near the end, when he was smacked out

3. it's heroin, not coke, and you're going off a blood to heroin ratio, rather than the amount of heroin he'd already have in his bloodstream from being an addict and regular heavy user.

4. as far as i'm aware, they signed a pre-nup so neither would've gotten any money from the other, and he took a bunch of towels and ID into the garage room where he shot himself, so they'd know it was him and so they could clean up with the towels. I don't think any possible killer would've put that much effort into it.

[The Outlaw]

Unless of course they wanted/needed it to look that way

I dunno, I dont know what really happened, but it's just a lot of...coincidences I guess?

[Gertner]

sucks that he died. actually, no it doesn't.

[MVP]

sucks that he died. actually, no it doesn't.Wtf? Shut up.

Kurt Cobain's death was horribly unfortunate, he had a lot more to live for than he thought he did.

[JJ Moore]

sucks that he died. actually, no it doesn't.

MVP hit it just right, stfu gertner, sucks your going to die someday. actauly, no it doesn't.

Thing is, i can say that whole heartedly. Your never gonna do anything in your life that will reach out to millions of people.

[Jason Cage]

Yeah Courtney is a ****ing slut who deserves to be shot with a shotgun repeatedly. in the face.

Even Maynard ****in hates her. I think the part from the song "The Outsider" where he sings "medicated drama queen..." or something is directed to her. not too sure.

Anyway, Cobain..

Heart SHaped Box is probably my favorite Nirvana, along with In Bloom.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I remember laughing when my mate's brother and his girlfriend started crying about it. Stupid bastards. People loved that guy like a God even before he died.

I never liked Nirvana.

He must have stank after sitting around for 3 days.

[el fregadero]

<font color=teal>In fairness, Maynard hates everybody.</font> :-\

[DaveWadding]

JJ & MVP,

He's going to suck at life because he doesnt worship some overrated musician?

[El Capitano Gatisto]

JJ & MVP,

He's going to suck at life because he doesnt worship some overrated musician?

I think it's the fact he said it was good that Cobain died that set them off. Being glad someone died has nothing really to with music taste.

[Jason Cage]

<font color=teal>In fairness, Maynard hates everybody.</font> :-\

really. :|

like?

[DaveWadding]

I think it's the fact he said it was good that Cobain died that set them off. Being glad someone died has nothing really to with music taste.

I don't necessarily agree with what he said, but cursing his life because of some stupid comment isnt so right either.

[el fregadero]

really. :|

like?
<font color=teal>I dunno. God.

"He's" gotta be worth a couple people.</font> :shifty:

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Maynard hates the people who buy his records.

[CBright7831]

Fuck, he killed himself before he could decline musically. Him dying was the best career move he ever made.

[Mighty Big Plug]

tr00 dat CB!

[Silent]

I guess maybe he is overrated, but Nirvana are still one of my favorite bands of all time.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Courtney killed Kurt, Tupac is still alive, Elvis was abducted by aliens, and punk is actually good music... There, is everyone happy with their disillusion?

[TheNamelessOne]

The way they talk about Kurt Cobain, you would get the impression that he basically invented music.

Nirvana are just like the Sex Pistsols - Shit, but influenced a lot.

[Ninti the Mad]

It sucks that he died but I still enjoy every one of their songs up to this day.

A rarity nowadays.

[Downunder]

Courtney killed Kurt, Tupac is still alive, Elvis was abducted by aliens, and punk is actually good music... There, is everyone happy with their disillusion?
2Pac shot Cobain in the head and then shot himself in the chest 7 times - Elvis' alien buddies told him to do it.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

That way Punk music could prosper, which is really nothing more than Alien communications.

[ColdwaVer]

The death of any celebrity still in the prime of his/her career does more to solidify their legend than anything possibly. It ensures that they never fade out, never turn into a weak version of what they were. And Kurt having killed himelf was the most poetic way for him to go out; in a scene where depression was akin to a fad, seeing the hero of the day made way too much sense to way too many people. Of course it drove some of us to walk away from that scene and discover industrial music, but that's a different story.
As far as "Courtney did it," that's little more than a pathetic attempt by many to beleive that their hero was tragically murdered rather than having blown his own head off. Most of the "facts" that point to murder in this case never surfaced until long after they could be properly validated, and a lot of them look for logic and rational behavior from a pair of people who had abused more drugs than an average college campus.

[xXxClouderxXx]

RIP Kurt 1967 - 1994 :(

[Kane Knight]

Courtney killed Kurt, Tupac is still alive, Elvis was abducted by aliens, and punk is actually good music... There, is everyone happy with their disillusion?
And anyone who disrupts our happily little stupidities sucks at life and deserves to die. ;)

[KingofOldSchool]

Eddie Vedder > Kurt Cobain

[blake639raw]

<font color=969696>Today's the two year anniversary of Layne Staley's death.

</font>Whoa, I forgot about Staley. AIC were one of the greatest bands to come out in the 90's, and are severely underrated. They managed to change their sound on every album, but never put out anything that wasn't great. From Facelift, to Dirt, Jar of Flies, s/t, and everything else, they never sucked. RIP Layne Staley
:'(

[road doggy dogg]

It sucks that he died but I still enjoy every one of their songs up to this day.

A rarity nowadays.

Yeah it's weird. I'm not even a huge Nirvana fan, but every song I've heard of theirs I liked

[Kane Knight]

BTW, I'm not exactly sure how Staley is overrated, because most people give credit where credit is due, to Cantrell.

Cobain's a different story. The guy was a God in his own time, touted as the Next Lennon, without any of the actual ability to back it up.

AIC is a great band, BTW. Probably not in my top ten or anything, but still great.

[Rob]

Not a huge Nirvana fan but then again, I wasn't able to get hold of good music in the early 90's so they didn't mean as much to me as they did to others. "You know your right" is my favourite song of theirs for some reason.

I thought Alice In Chains were a better band and was able to get their stuff early enough that it still made an impact on me.

[The Mask]

Kurt Loder: Was it really you who created the "Free Frances Bean" T-shirt?

Maynard James Keenan: Oh, yeah, back in '96, '97. Everybody at that time was trying to get us to do all these benefit shows — you know, like "Free Tibet." And I was like, "I'm gonna have my own platform: Free Frances Bean." Because just watching the tornado that is her mother, my first thought was, "Oh my God, how is Frances Bean gonna survive this insanity?" Because artists can be extremely eccentric and insane, and unfortunately, the people they hurt the most are the people that are closest to them. The shirt was kind of a flippant joke, and then it just spiraled out of control — everyone wanted them, and I was giving them away. Courtney hates me. She called me a media whore once. Isn't that great? I have the distinction of being called a media whore by Courtney Love.

[The Outlaw]

Eddie Vedder > Kurt Cobain

This is true as well. :yes:

[The Outlaw]

lol

Courtney Love can rot in hell.

Yeah, sucks for the kid though :n:

[JJ Moore]

die courtney die :)

[Kurdt Kobane]

Eddie Vedder > Kurt Cobain



Dont start that shit. Thats just stupid."Oh yeah, 2 members of pearl jam were in Green River and GR influenced Nirvana"....yeah, along with The Melvins, Black Flag, Husker Du, The Knack,The Vaselines just to name a few!

"Pearl Jam never wanted fame, thats why they blew off MTV after the Jeromy video" 1. Pearl Jam wanted fame. Thats why after Andy Wood died(Mother Love Bone,Remember??), they recruited Vedder for Vocals TO GET A MAJOR LABEL DEAL!!!! Thats why many other seattle band shunned PJ !! 2. Fun Fact: Green River broke up Because Stone and Jeff wanted fame and the other members didnt.

Ten wouldnt have taken off like it did if hadnt been for Nevermind.

Pearl Jam would still be in seattle somewhere making records on K or SUB POP.

Thank you.

[The Mask]

Pearl Jam are crap. they have a few decent songs and that's about it. :rant:

[Apocolyptik1]

I think Pearl Jam is a decent band.

I think Nirvana is a decent band, not because of Kurt but because Chris and Dave were also good musicians. Dave is probably the better between him and Kurt and it shows cause he is still making good music today. Some people argue that Kurt was shadowing the other bandmates, which he was, and others argue that the only reason Dave became popular was because Kurt moved out of the way. Totally off topic but I mentioned it nonetheless.

Kurt killed himself cause he saw his career going down the drain which it was. If you want to argue read his journal. He talks about how it was going down the shithole throughout the whole thing. I think his death was a sorta "Yea I am popular but I want to be immortalized" kinda thing and also personally think that Courtney had nothing to do with it. He was ****ed up in the head. It was pretty selfish if you really think about it. The band could have gone on to maybe even greater lengths, and then maybe FF might not be around today cause Dave would still be with Nirvana. If I had to choose with Nirvana still being around and the FF not being a band, I would choose what has happened.

AIC was also a good band and it sucked that Layne died when he did.

[House of Pancakes]

Wtf? Shut up.

Kurt Cobain's death was horribly unfortunate, he had a lot more to live for than he thought he did.

And YOU know?

Kurt Cobain is dead. Who cares how he died or why he died? He's dead. His body is in the ground. Nirvana was good. Pearl Jam is good. Alice in Chains was good.

Stop focusing on the past.

[Draven]

Rest in Peace Kurt

[samichna]

I don't like all the conspiracy nonsense.

Just keep waiting for the Kurt Cobain/Elvis/Tupac collaboration to come out. I hear its almost done.

[The Mask]

with john bonham avec keith moon on drums and hendrix on lead.

that'd be awesome actually.

[Kane Knight]

Dont start that shit. Thats just stupid."Oh yeah, 2 members of pearl jam were in Green River and GR influenced Nirvana"....yeah, along with The Melvins, Black Flag, Husker Du, The Knack,The Vaselines just to name a few!

"Pearl Jam never wanted fame, thats why they blew off MTV after the Jeromy video" 1. Pearl Jam wanted fame. Thats why after Andy Wood died(Mother Love Bone,Remember??), they recruited Vedder for Vocals TO GET A MAJOR LABEL DEAL!!!! Thats why many other seattle band shunned PJ !! 2. Fun Fact: Green River broke up Because Stone and Jeff wanted fame and the other members didnt.

Ten wouldnt have taken off like it did if hadnt been for Nevermind.

Pearl Jam would still be in seattle somewhere making records on K or SUB POP.

Thank you.
Pleeeease shut the Hell up.

Thank you, that is all.

[Silent]

Dont start that shit. Thats just stupid."Oh yeah, 2 members of pearl jam were in Green River and GR influenced Nirvana"....yeah, along with The Melvins, Black Flag, Husker Du, The Knack,The Vaselines just to name a few!

"Pearl Jam never wanted fame, thats why they blew off MTV after the Jeromy video" 1. Pearl Jam wanted fame. Thats why after Andy Wood died(Mother Love Bone,Remember??), they recruited Vedder for Vocals TO GET A MAJOR LABEL DEAL!!!! Thats why many other seattle band shunned PJ !! 2. Fun Fact: Green River broke up Because Stone and Jeff wanted fame and the other members didnt.

Ten wouldnt have taken off like it did if hadnt been for Nevermind.

Pearl Jam would still be in seattle somewhere making records on K or SUB POP.

Thank you.

You make Nirvana fans look bad.

[Kurdt Kobane]

Ehh...I speak the truth.

[Kane Knight]

You speak like a moron.

Your rantings could give any statement less credibility. ANY statement.

People would start doubting the world was round if you started in like that.